One of the robe wearing psychotics at the Vatican called Sanders’ move to invite himself to a catholic conference, 4 days ahead of the NY primaries, “monumental discourtesy.”
Politicians are an incorrigible lot and this small event in time and space make me smile, ear to ear. Imagine the frown B. Sanders has on his face right now, after reading the response from the Vatican. This is a man who couldn’t care less about religion, who is assuredly an atheist, getting rebuked by leaders of a religion that he doesn’t even belong to. The only reason why he’s attempting to go in the first place is because of some asshole staffer, who cited some poll data, and thought it’d make a neat press clipping to curry the favor of idiot catholic fence sitting voters.
“Sanders made the first move, for the obvious reasons,” Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the conference Sanders will attend, said in a telephone interview. “I think in a sense he may be going for the Catholic vote but this is not the Catholic vote and he should remember that and act accordingly — not that he will.”
Clearly, the Pope isn’t feeling The Bern.
Morons.
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In the olden days we would put Bernie in the stocks and fast-pitch tomatoes into his face.
These days people just get drunk and stoned and talk about how great he is.
lol
Interestingly, Mr. Sanders may have known better. But the staffer did not.
Sanders sought out the invitation himself. But one division of the Vatican did respond to him and invite him.to speak at this church-sponsored conference on economic and environmental issues. Sounds reasonable to me, as Sanders focuses a lot on economic and environmental issues and has a lot in common with the pope in those areas.
Of course, Right Wing news sources will find something calculating in anything Bernie//Hillary/Obama does. Whereas if a Right Winger got himself invited to speak at a conference about the issues that he focuses on most, Right Wing “news sources” would see that as just wonderful, with no calculations suspected.
Somebody else from the Vatican objected to the invitation that the other Vatican group issued. So this is just internal Vatican disagreement here.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-08/sanders-accused-of-discourtesy-in-seeking-vatican-invitation
The Vatican isn’t like the DNC-RNC. They don’t make statements without getting approval.
frog is right in this case. The Sanders campaign posted the letter:
https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Bernie-Sanders-Vatican.pdf
Could it be that Chancellor/Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo and President/Professor Margaret Archer have differnt views on Bernie?
As an aside, you should stop with the incessant right v left wing nonsense. It’s poppycock. You sound like a lemming who’s been hoodwinked into drinking the koolaid.
Yes, I am aware that that’s what I sound like to you.
If there is no different between Dems and Republicans, then why is such a humongous amount of money spent every 2 years to elect one over the other? Are these folks just thrilled to be throwing money down the toilet?
And if there is no difference, then why is it that you seem to find fault only with Democrats, and almost never with Republicans?
Would you even vote for Trump if he were still a Democrat? A lot of people would not.
Didn’t fly already say he’d vote for Bernie over a non-Trump Republican?
He did, but I think it was to be a protest vote out of revolt against the GOP to use a brokered convention shutting Trump out.
Fly voted for Obama. So he would vote for a Dem. But many other Right Wingers here have never done that and probably can’t stand the thought.
You could make the same argument about coke vs Pepsi… “Clearly they’re not the same if millions of dollars are spent!”
No group of individuals spent 889 million dollars to make sure they got Coke instead of Pepsi. Not the same thing at all.
You can sell individuals all kinds of identical products with different names. Some buy one. Some buy the other. They want a soft drink. They got one. Who cares?
That’s not the same as one group spending 889 million to make sure the Right Wing politicians get elected rather than the Left Wing ones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vast_right-wing_conspiracy
Time to boil the frog!
Nice and slow see nice and slow …
Brothers in Christ, Agnostics, and God-forsaken atheists of all persuasions: the Vatican is more factionalized now than at any time since the schism of Avignon.
The left hand does not talk to the right hand – and as we know, the left hand is most sinister indeud-
Will be interesting to ee how this pans out.
After all, the Vatican’s regard for the Pope is similar to how Congress feels about Bernie and Trump. The Pope is the People’s man, not the Vatican’s.
From bloomberg:
“The president of the academy said Friday that Sanders didn’t follow proper protocol by failing to contact her office and that his presence threatens to make the event political. The academy’s chancellor said he arranged the invitation and defended the Vermont senator.”
Fly, if there is no difference between Left and Right to you, perhaps you would be willing for just one month to stop watching/reading/listening to Right Wing “news sources” and instead watch MSNBC, listen to NPR and read Left of Center web sites.
Here is a list of Internet sites you could choose from, if you so desire.
http://rightwingnews.com/top-news/the-50-most-popular-liberal-websites/
If you do this, I promise you, you will see a difference in the world view being communicated to you.
Believe me – we do not want ONE PAYER Health Insurance – Bernies plan..you think we are fucked with Obamacare? this would take us to a whole new level!! ABB (anybody but Bernie)!!
take a trip to Canada and ask them about their healthcare situation – Ive experienced it first hand
Well, if you don’t like that, what do you like? The current system is ridiculously expensive and we get less for our money than numerous other countries do. Lots of advanced countries have single payer health care. When asking residents of those places, some like it and some don’t.
And then again, according to Fly there is no difference between Dems and Republicans supposedly.
But then in this case, possibly so. Trump said he’d replace Obamacare with something else. he didn’t say what. Maybe it’s single payer for all we know.
the current system is not the result of insurance companies who admin the the system..its the hospitals who have to charge so much to cover all the people who use emergency services as a PCP as well as Big Pharma who can charge whatever they like – decide to tell Doctors how much less they can make and pretty soon there arent any
Well, we could certainly come up with something more efficient than the current system.
The Koch brothers group of donors are spending 889 million dollars in 2016 to elect who they want to office. Quick, someone tell them that there is no difference between Left and Right, and so they are just pissing all that money away.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/koch-2016-spending-goal-114604
Warren Buffet has how many billion in coca cola?
And your point is that 889 million dollars is chump change?
You said no one spent more than $889M to ensure coke over Pepsi.
I think Buffett cares if Coke outperforms Pepsi in the long run, but that doesn’t mean the products aren’t nearly the same
The political donor class aren’t just throwing away money for the hell of it, they are selecting a horse, and if their horse wins, they get a share of the political capital/influence/control…
yea…how bout ME NOT PAYING FOR EVERY FREE-LOADER IN THE FREE WORLD!! rates are high because of Obamacare – its essentially a tax passed along thru higher company costs – you want to sacrifice the health care you have for Socialist Healthcare?? 3 months to get an MRI (if youre lucky!) that what you want??
It seems like the way the leadership of the two parties differ most is in their appeal to voters on social issues. Other than that they are fairly aligned, especially regarding the economy, differing in policy little, but at odds with which industries are promoted. War and old energy is strong on one side and healthcare and new energy backed by the other. So these differences are real, it’s hard to prefer more war instead of the health care act, but the fundamentals of government, many of the issues Sanders campaigns on, changes that would make things better for US citizens but worse for financial powers, for example, are not that different between the two establishments.
unrelated, the corporate backing matches the social issue.
Right-wing voters do not explicitly support the military-industrial complex – they are just much more fearful of people that are different in general. They don’t like Muslims becuase they are afraid of terrorists, they don’t like African Americans because they are afraid of crime, they don’t liek Hispanics because they are afraid of losing their jobs. Their love of guns dove-tails with this fear as well.
Left-wing voters aren’t fans of big pharma, but their leadership takes advantage of their desire for universal health care to line the pockets of Valeant and others. Clean energy backing dovetails with the environmental social issue.