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The Oldest of the Old Man Stocks

There are old man stocks and then there are olde man stocks. Some of you, like myself, play games in the stock market, hoping to insulate oneself against the never-ending barrage of sell orders that seem to be hitting the street of Wall–each and every day. Truth be told, our lives would be measurably easier had we just caved in and shorted everything we thought was good. Alas, one cannot live in the past. One must look towards the future.

When planning for my future, I tend to study the past, however. I like to see how sectors behaved during the hardest of times–times when good men turned to alcoholism to stop the pain, and when women did the dishes without gloves.

These are hard times, trying times: ask David Tepper. Born and raised in the disgusting and filthy city of Pittsburgh, PA, David quickly moved up the ranks at Goldman Ballsachs, then segued that success into America’s best run hedge fund. He now manages over $20 billion from the Short Hills shopping mall, where he gets nervous about things, prepares media presentations, and woks diligently on his small home in the Hamptons.

Not to take up the mantle of populism here, appealing to your inner anti-establishment hatred, but what does David Tepper know about “nervous?” Has he ever felt nervous about meeting his mortgage payment or having his car towed away for being delinquent? This is a man, mind you, who makes over $3 billion per annum. If I made $3 billion per annum, trust me when I say, I’d be completely and totally insulated from the world around me– working on spaced aged cannons and buying whole companies just to convert their offices into roaming carnivale trailers.

Do not trust David Tepper. But believe in the numbers, for they do not lie.

Let’s talk turkey. The oldest of the old man sectors is the utilities. Within that sector, EXC is the best performing stock, with a reliable dividend, liquid daily volume and mammoth market cap. For the purposes of this exercise, we will use EXC versus the worst months in the NASDAQ’s wretched history, dating back 14 years.

Jan, 2005: QQQ -6.3%, EXC +0.4%
Jan, 2008: QQQ -11.9%, EXC -6.8%
Feb, 2001: QQQ -26.2%, EXC +8.98%
Feb, 2008: QQQ -4.8%, EXC -1.01%
Feb, 2009: QQQ -5.27%, EXC -12.09%
March, 2001: QQQ -17.49%, EXC +0.35%
April, 2000: QQQ -13.47%, EXC +13.02%
April, 2002: QQQ -12.02%, EXC +2.52%
April, 2005: QQQ -4.36%, EXC +7.88%
May, 2000: QQQ -12.27%, EXC +5.96%
May, 2002: QQQ -5.3%, EXC -0.76%
May, 2006: QQQ -7.2%, EXC +5.6%
May, 2010: QQQ -7.39%, EXC -10.3%
May 2012: QQQ -7.04%, EXC -4.27%
June, 2002: QQQ -13.1%, EXC -2.18%
June, 2008: QQQ -9.61%, EXC +2.24%
June, 2010: QQQ -5.96%, EXC -1.63%
July, 2000: QQQ -4.29%, EXC +5.88%
July, 2001: QQQ -8.63%, EXC -11.9%
July, 2002: QQQ -8.62%, EXC -6.22%
July, 2004: QQQ -7.56%, EXC +4.82%
July, 2006: QQQ -4.3%, EXC +1.87%
August, 2001: QQQ -12.27%, EXC -2.6%
August, 2010: QQQ -5.13%, EXC -1.42%
August, 2011: QQQ -5.06%, EXC -0.86%
September, 2000: QQQ -12.66%, EXC +25.8%
September, 2001: QQQ -20.89%, EXC -18.3%
September, 2002: QQQ -11.82%, EXC +1.47%
September, 2008: QQQ -15.58%, EXC -17.56%
September, 2011: QQQ -4.5%, EXC -1.18%
October, 2000: QQQ -7.94%, EXC -0.49%
October, 2008: QQQ -15.47%, EXC -13.39%
October, 2012: QQQ -5.29%, EXC +0.58%
November, 2000: QQQ -22.9%, EXC +10.2%
November, 2008: QQQ -11.48%, EXC +4.69%
December, 2002: QQQ -12.09%, EXC +5.19%

The Average Worst single monthly drop in the NASDAQ, since 2000: -13.07%
During those respective months, EXC was -0.19%

Conclusion: When credit was an issue, as was the case in 2008, the utilities were horrid places to hide. You’d be much better served hiding in TLT. For those of you who are members of The PPT tribal army, feel free to use our seasonality tools and compare the QQQ to TLT for the years mentioned above. I already did the grunt work for you. The utes certainly possess a defensive quality, outperforming the NASDAQ by 13%, since 2000, in some of the most horrid trading months known to mankind. I’d be interested to see how the utility ETF, XLU, performed over the same time period. Or maybe a REIT ETF.

The bottom line: EXC is for old people who do not like getting blown to smithereens in tragic NASDAQ forays. If you should find yourself in need of non-tragic waters, look towards the utes in these trying times. Everyone else may proceed to juggle pin less hand grenades inside of plutonium factories (actually, it’s not nearly as dangerous as it sounds).

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38 comments

  1. bluestar

    I used to cover EXC when I was a junior utility analyst on the sell side in the 90’s. Solid company.

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  2. bluestar

    Actually is it was a ton of fun. There is a sick twisted hedge fund community that just focuses on utilities. crazy.

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  3. alf44

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    … it is refreashing to finally see a Billionaire Hedge Fund guy not let it ALL go to his head … and be quite content to live a modest life in a quaint seaside cottage !!!

    Way to go … Dave !!!

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    • Dr. Fly

      lol

      He actually tore down a 50 million dollar mansion to build his 150 million dollar monster.

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      • alf44

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        … there is just a level of entitlement, decadence and conspicuousness … that I can not fathom !!!

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        • Dr. Fly

          Clearly, the 50 million dollar mansion was a knock down and did not suit his Pittsburghian ways

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        • alf44

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          … most rich, mid-life, male menopausal goofs just buy a Harley … or, a Porsche … or, a $3000/ hour … ah hem … “escort” !!!

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  4. the pirate

    Pittsburgh IS the pits! I hated that city. Fat people everywhere eating ‘cheesed fries’ (now I am NOT making that up, cheese covered fries are a Pittsburgh delicacy. It rained for what seemed like weeks on end. Drab, depressing and without any style… then again, it’s not the fault of some of the pittsburghers – I heard Mr. Rogers lives there.

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  5. budh

    BRK/B is my old man stock. I have a large position there.

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  6. sloop

    Traders seem to forget that cash is a position. why even fuck with EXC. Sit in cash until you see a prime target. That’s what I do.

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    • Dr. Fly

      Because as traders, cash bores us

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      • sloop

        Honestly. I have NO love for trading anymore. I’ve traded for a living for close to 20 years. Its taken its toll on me. It has taken years off my life I am sure of it!! I trade because it cant make better money any other way. But, I no longer trade just to trade. I’ve made 100K+ in a day and I’ve lost 100K+ in a day. Neither one sends a thrill down my leg anymore.

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        • Dr. Fly

          Sloop

          We’ve all felt that way. It’s always when the market was hard. It will get easier again. Hang around

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      • zeena

        amen

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      • zeena

        insert “amen” here

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  7. it is showtime
    it is showtime

    My… Four horsemen of the Order… of Depravity

    C BAC JPM GS

    (oddly enough I find myself WANTING to glance at their charts now)

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  8. ironbird

    The Nikkei got bad Tepper Weather tonight and traded exactly like US. Almost to the intraday tick. All is well.

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  9. dragun

    If I recall he bought his old GS boss’ shack in the Hamptons and the tear down was punch to the scrotum for keeping his boot to Teper’s neck and not giving him a promotion.

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  10. Narredwhal

    Formal attire in Pittsburgh is a Jaromir Jagr jersey and a permed mullet.

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    • vigkap

      Even homeless people in Pittsburgh wont wear a Jagr jersey, the entire city hates him. But you nailed the sports jersey formal wear part.

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  11. big boy

    most fat fuckin yinzers like to reflect on the golden days when they could wear their Big Ben jerseys to their highschool prom, baing very careful not to spill any hickory bbq sauce on it after splitting the 2 for $20 special at Applebees….typically their dates weigh as much if not more than they do and love to drink IC light and talk about steeler football whilst plucking their facial hair

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  12. from gorby

    Dear mr. Fly.

    It’s nice to see you back.No longer in love
    with any sector or stock just like 2007.
    Just watch the the money and laughs roll in again.

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  13. sloop

    FB showing strength. selling 1/2 at the open

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  14. jbran

    If one had bot $NEE in 2000 they would be up 5x plus divies, hard to beat that.

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  15. zeena

    Blue Jasmine was horrifying.
    Tepper should watch it

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