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WE HAVE A EURO DEAL!

Okay, news is coming fast, but it appears the EFSF deal has been reached. As expected, it will be 1.4 trilly, by using 400-500% leverage on cash. Haircuts on Greek debt will be 50% and that does NOT include ECB holdings. In other words, they are openly committing accounting fraud. The fund must be set up by next month and Italy swears on a stack of King James bibles they will get their shit together. Lastly, like TARP, Euro banks will be funded with 30 billion for recapitalization. No word on how many banks and which banks need the funding. My guess they reside in Germany and France.

What does this mean?

Well, it means gold and silver will soar. On this repeated news, stocks should not go higher. However, they’re going higher anyway. People want a reason to go long and this puts visions of QE3 in the minds of people. Ultimately, the debasement of the money supply will lead to artificial inflation, readily seen in oil, copper, gold, silver etc.

Under normal circumstances, we should sell off on this news. You know, buy the rumor, sell the news sort of thing. But it’s too early to judge, especially with futures up 14.

Either way, I will be getting my JAKEGINT on tomorrow via additional purchases of EXK and AG.

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106 comments

  1. drummerboy

    fig

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  2. Real Texan

    First. Just happened to be browsing. Will this move be faded?

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    • Squeeeze

      Longs can bitch and moan how much ever they want on kicking can down road etc. At the end of the day, markets like it – SPX has a bull flag and is going to shaft that up shorts tomorrow.

      ES futures are quite close to breaking above Tuesday highs.

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  3. Bullish

    Boo ya skeee daddy!!

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  4. Vegas Trader II

    Listening to pessimists burned me big time during this rally and especially tonight.. Should have known they were simply GOING to find any way possible to please, and kick this down the rd.. Common fucking sense!!!!!!!

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    • The Fly

      Hum bug. If it was so common, you would have known about it.

      A trade is a trade is a trade. Move on and get them next time.

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    • huh?

      I have a piece of paper on my computer screen it reads as follows: “DO NOT CHASE LOST GAINS!”

      Before you jump in thinking we are going to rally to the fucking moon, you might want to take a step back and think about it for a second.

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    • JTU

      If TZA hits a 52 week low tomorrow it just might be a great entry point!

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  5. Squeeeze

    those shorts!

    Shorts have an appointment with the devil tomorrow. GDP will be 3%+….

    Think 1265 possible tomorrow.

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  6. twofingersneak

    still loading the fuck up on TZA

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    • flyaway18

      Tell you what, and I’m just a piker and a plebe on this site, but the financial ETFs look ready to break out of their trading range – they have lagged every rally this whole year. I was close to buying some SKF today but held off because I just think the inverses, as cheap as they look, can get cheaper.

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  7. dishobgyn

    will touch 200 dma and then fade

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  8. flyaway18

    I’m wondering, Fly, would you add to your long bond ETF here on further weakness? I’m staying away from the inverses and would rather buy a bond ETF instead.

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  9. Squeeeze

    The shorts have already penning their eulogy…

    Thanks to Zerohedge.

    http://t.co/SCTJUjhF

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  10. twofingersneak

    so wait, what ever happened with China in this deal? rumor has it they negotiated a 100% monopoly of futures, or ‘futs’, of Lafite for the next 1.4T years in exchange for some euro ‘backing’. what does it all mean?

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    • flyaway18

      Check out streetsleuth’s blog in the new Peanut Gallery – he has a story about it and some of it explains China’s involvement.

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  11. ican'tdance

    Is getting your JakeGint on a similar move to doing the Hugh?

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  12. Dr Funk

    I love how we’re headed into Oct. 29 with this euroshit.

    Can the market crash on a saturday? if its really really big?

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  13. dumbass barber

    Greece haircut? John Travolta just got his haircut and he only took a quarter of an inch off.
    On a related note today I buy stocks, tomorrow I will give advice.

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  14. The Fly

    Everyone gets a haircut but ECB. So, in other words, it’s only a 28% haircut.

    Of course you do know this is recycled news?

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    • ALLPROz

      Recycled tastes just like new to the market and it’s quirky ways.

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    • whaler

      Not only is it recycled news, it’s recycled, recycled news!

      Let’s see if anyone thinks about possibly taking some profits tomorrow.

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  15. alf just throwed up his oatmeal into a depends
    alf just throwed up his oatmeal into a depends

    good riddance.

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  16. gambler

    Long 100% TVIX… So should I shoot myself now or later?

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  17. SUBCOMANDANTE CHINCHILLLLLA!!!
    SUBCOMANDANTE CHINCHILLLLLA!!!

    USD-CAD at .99999.

    The Nymph to comment please.

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    • lol

      Herman Cain is a prophet!

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      • lol

        oh wait, that was his smoking buddy.

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      • alf44

        Herman Cain is a “Motivational Speaker” … posing as a “Candidate” … for the sole purpose of a book deal and increased speaker fees !

        That’s it !!!

        You “Cain Idiots” have all been duped !

        Write this down … there will be a book deal … there will be a reality TV show … there will be a show on FOX Noise … Herman Cain will be laughing all the way to the bank !

        You have ALL been “punked” … by Herman Cain !!!

        .

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        • Blind Read Ant

          alf, U’re beginning to sound coherent.

          Now back to your confusing rants.

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        • Mad_Scientist

          Actually his purpose is to “mainstream” radical reformation of the tax code into the national political discourse. He has already achieved his purpose, in fact.

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          • alf44

            ROFLMFAO !!!

            “9-9-9” … or, is it … “9-0-9” ?

            Who knows ?

            Who tha fuck gives a shit ?

            Uhhh … NO ONE !!!

            He has read the Palin / Huckabee / Sharpton / Buchanan blueprint !

            Run for POTUS … Git a book deal … Git on the “lecture circuit” … Git a TV show … Laugh All The Way To The Bank !!!

            It is amazing to me that the idiots in this country fall for it every fuckin’ time !

            .

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          • alf44

            … for GOD’S sake … we now have “Joe The Fuckin’ Plumber”‘… runnin’ for Congress !!!

            Pardon me if I insulted any “actual” Plumbers out there !

            The political system in this country has turned into “Professional Wrestling” !

            It is a FARCE !!!

            It is … “Theatre Of The Absurd !!!”

            .

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          • Trading_Nymph

            Sub, Thank you for the question. USD/CAD has killer resistance at 1.0000 and with the dovish talk out of the BoC and the leaving of the rate alone it doesn’t have much firepower. But, as you know, the USD/CAD is a proxy for Oil, we do have the Monthly Oil Payments coming into the Canada Govt tomorrow which is normally bullish, plus the EU Herding Cats strongarmed everyone to have a deal, so bullish for Oil, you would think. But, so far USD/CAD is pulling down on the news…along with the French Oat, this is so strange. For tomorrow we have the GDP first look out of USA, but strange, if it is inline or a beat we could see a rally in the dollar which will lead to selling of the Lonnie. Support is .9800 of course.

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    • not good

      the nympth is dead. or not. preaching idiot as far as the wind blows. trades are generational. fuckin irrelevant retarded.

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  18. Vegastrader

    Fantastic. Maybe my house price will finally increase in value and all my unemployed Las Vegas friends will get jobs now. The Greeks seems so overworked. Send them on paid vacation to Las Vegas paid for by the Germans with free all you can eat buffets. #RETARDED

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  19. ALLPROz

    So ultimately the blaze is put out but the fire is not extinguished…

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    • lol

      smothering the flame with fabric appeared to work initially so they have dumped a million jackets onto the fire in hopes of smothering it.

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  20. Vegastrader

    Posted earlier today in 12631:

    Vegastrader
    Europe invented soccer. They also master the art of kicking cans and curve balls. They will find a way to kick Greece a few yards down the road. So I expect a retard rally that will bring us back up to O/B giving a new short opportunity before the can shows back up again. It actually a beatiful thing for a trader.
    03:27:30pm EST on Wed, Oct 26, 2011

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  21. Jose Mann

    My shorts will get fucked, no doubt about that …

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    • Frog Playing a Colorful Accordion
      Frog Playing a Colorful Accordion

      Not necessarily. Like Fly said, it is too early to judge. The futures do a lot of stuff at night, and then the next day may be the same, or it may be different. No telling.

      Like Richard Russell always says “The market can do anything.”

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  22. tw

    So Jeff Skilling is still in jail? After creating a masterpiece so influential that the Europeans will use it to save their union? Irony indeed.

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  23. duck

    Are you looking for EXK/AG right at opening, or waiting for it to settle in?

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  24. theedge111

    Utter lunacy.

    Will be adding to shorts tomorrow on any bounce.

    This is like watching a slow motion trainwreck.

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  25. asteroids

    Sounds like another kick the can down the road plan. Save the banks and fuck everyone else. The NEXT time around, say 14 months, it ALL implodes. Future generations will certainly curse us.

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  26. Vegas Trader II

    You are right Fly, my apologies..

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  27. JTU

    If futures are way up tomorrow morning, say over 200 points, then I will be tempted to take a little bit off the table.

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    • whaler

      They are working hard on getting them up there. Dow +=130 S&P +14.60

      Austerity, such a nice word. If I didn’t know better, I would think it meant something good.

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  28. Dayman

    Good Evening Mr. Fly,

    I miss the days when you were long for these moves.

    Sincerely,

    a LONG time reader.

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    • The Fly

      I am not all that short. I will be fine.

      I have 10% of assets in EXK, 5% in GSVC, 10% in TLT, 5% in WNR with VXX and short EXH.

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      • jose mann

        holy fuck, I put on the wrong trade, I am long EXH and short EXK, fuck, fuck, fuck

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  29. Adam

    The gameplan is very simple folks:

    Step 1: Bailout Greece

    Step 2: Rev up the printing presses for another round of QE3 (the ECB will also be lowering interest rates to help the PIIGS)

    Step 3: Cocaine-fueld 4th Quarter Rally. New highs by Christmas.

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    • Damon

      I like it all, except I can’t do the blow no mo. Damn it.

      All the more for you guys!

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  30. Adam

    Don’t fight the central banks folks. You will always lose.

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    • theedge111

      The market fought the CB’s regarding Greece and won big.

      Why not fight the CB’s at this point? They are backed into a corner and drowning in debt.

      I plan on punching Bernanke and Geithner in the face as I take on the CB’s with both bear paws.

      This news won’t even get us to 1300.

      Mark my words.

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      • Adamm

        Marked. Now mark mine, above 1350 by early December.

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        • Dr Funk

          I don’t know how high it goes. But I do know it comes back down.

          The mathematics just doesn’t work

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      • Po Pimp

        Will you go so far as to pledge to cut off your balls at the Mandalay Bay if we do break 1300?

        Because that’s already been done so you’ll have to step it up a couple of notches.

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  31. Adamm

    Where as I previously felt only disdain towards Europeans before…now I f*cking hate them. Oh, and I’m going to be losing a shit lot of money tomorrow a.m.

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  32. Adamm

    QE3 is next: Top QE3 plays = SLV, OIH, KOL, XME

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  33. Mad_Scientist

    This brings back a fond memory of when I thought to myself, “Hey I bet when the govt steps in and plays hero and comes to a debt agreement to avoid default at the very last minute, the market will react with a buying frenzy.”
    Then later I realized I should have switched the word “buying” to “selling.”

    Got it backwards again.

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  34. Damon

    The best part: GDP comes in at 4.2%, then get revised down in 6 months to 2.5%

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  35. Yabollox

    <>

    I guess it’s maybe not accounting fraud, if you put it that way.

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  36. Damon

    Okay. Now the futures look like they will go to their lock-limit.

    It’s still early on the West Coast.

    Dow +157/S&P +19

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  37. Yogi & Boo Boo

    I’m thinking fade the open/early move and stay long PM’s. Not much to see here, move along. The weakest Spanish/Itallian banks will surely be pressured by our open. I’d guess Italy bonds will stay above 5.5. Austerity is still in the air.

    If we open up 3% like Euroland appears to be doing, then all bets are off. Hedges too.

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  38. Old Salt

    Europe up big, DAX 3.8% , CAC 3.6%
    Banks eg DBK.de up 8.9% http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=DBK.DE
    Resources eg BTL.L up 3.9%
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=BLT.L
    And we have yet to see the fine print.
    Shouldn’t I be seeing some red for the holders of the Greek bonds and now worthless CDS?

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    • Trading_Nymph

      Yet, the French Oat is dropping? 3.02% right now, this is a divergence between the indices and Euro…wonder which one will win?

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      • Kafka

        You like these comments! You know they are meaningless, right? When you ask a rhetorical question like that in order for it to have meaning you need to supply facts. I swear nothing would alter your “reality”. There could be a guy on the street with a pile of money to the moon giving it away and a food stamp blows by and you would say something like this:

        “Hmmm … that food stamp is a divergence from this money give away, I wonder which will win?”

        I have a proposal. Trading_Nymph should be banned from posting until anything she has said has value.

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        • BanAlf.com

          Harsh, but true. She is a borderline ra-tard. My 18th month old makes more sense with his baby babble.

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  39. kidstock

    Can we get back to some old stock picking instead of this seasonality crap??? Watching Fly play defense is akin to watching A-rod in the post season. You used to be quite the stock picker….

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  40. ckalt

    Looks like Europe’s newest export around the world will be misery (inflation). Bullish for peasant riots.

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  41. JTU

    Looks like TZA will hit a 52 week low today, precious metals aren’t doing very much. DAX and CAC up over 5%!

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  42. Kafka

    Not to be picky, but would the Italian’s be swearing on King James bibles?

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  43. jose mann

    TVIX at around 42, ouch

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  44. twofngersneak

    The French Oat!

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  45. TraderCaddy

    Done for the AM (I think).
    Shorted a ton of XLP etf (saw a misprice).
    Made 1% in about 3 minutes with low risk etf.
    Watching a short of SMH.

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  46. Sommer

    great site 🙂

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