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Dershowitz on Mueller Investigation: ‘You Show Me the Man and I’ll Find You the Crime’

Do any non Trump supporters find it egregious that the President is under investigation immediately upon taking office? How, in any way or manner, is this legitimate? I get that you’re entranced by the lesbian Maddow and Bill Kristol and Morning Joe — but has it ever occurred to you that the claims against Russia might be a way to open an investigation to take down Trump — for things that aren’t even related to Russia?

Trust me when I tell you, if you gave me unlimited resources and lawyers, I’d find something corrupt about all of you too. The Mueller investigation isn’t about stopping Russia, but Trump.

Here’s Alan Dershowitz discussing this topic, comparing it to Stalin’s Soviet Union.

“You give a prosecutor one goal, you give him a lot of money, and give him a lot of lawyers, it’s unlikely he’s gonna want to come away with nothing […] They’re determined to get that white whale.”

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23 comments

  1. WrongView

    The investigations into interference began earlier, even before the election. The trail leads where it leads. I am certain there was a contingent that would want him taken down anyway, anyhow. Seems, though, that his actions and those of his campaign were plenty enough to get the ball rolling.

    Drain the swamp I say, and get the DOJ going on Clinton already. One opinion I’ve come to from time spent here is that that situation deserves scrutiny. But the thing that undercuts my concern there is that DOJ seems to not think there is anything worth pursuing. I’m losing faith.

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    • Cricket

      Patience. Could it be that the Republicans are timing the Clinton/DNC investigations to coincide with next-year’s mid-term elections?

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  2. sarcrilege

    The best defence is offense…must be the Klinton Crime Familia et al strategy since Trump’s election promise was to lock the cunt up if he were the prez. No one imagined the Klinton familia would have such deep roots in the deep state to get away with all their crimes and have pinko marxist Mueller going after Trump.

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    • sarcrilege

      btw, the quote
      https://tinyurl.com/yc8dx72l
      is attributed to Lavrentiy Beria, chief of the Soviet security and secret police apparatus (NKVD) under Joseph Stalin during World War II,…

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    • ferd

      Why would the Clintons be a factor? They no longer have anything to pimp. Note that all the bribes paid to their foundation have dried up. They are yesterday’s news.

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      • sarcrilege

        The Klinton familia is a huge factor. The “donations” a.k.a. bribes may have dried up; however, Klinton’s are implicated in murders, theft, assassinations, rape, pedophilia, etc. The deep state cannot let them go down. Klinton familia is part of the glue that holds the sinister DC network in business. One goes down, they all go down. Klintons know too much and too many and no doubt they hold the dead man’s switch. The Chabad-Lubavitchs cannot let them go down and talk. It’s all connected – Pizzagate, Pedogate, The Clinton Foundation, The Podestas, James Alefantis and the Chabad-Lubavitch organization. Pizzagate connects The Sandler Clan, George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and of course the Clinton Foundation, the Franklin Scandal, etc. A full investigation into the Clinton Foundation, Wiener, and HRC would eventually lead to exposing the vast reach of the Israeli lobby, Israel, from Mossad to AIPAC etc. All this Mueller/Comey investigation is to protect Klinton crime familia from Trump locking the cunt up since Klintons can take most likely 1/2 the deep state down with them.

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        • ferd

          Not trying to be a wise ass. Serious question: Did we land men on the moon?

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          • sarcrilege

            No, definitely not. Men on the Moon were fake news, part of the cold war propaganda. And Hiroshima and Nagasaki were firebombed, not nuked, btw, also part of cold war propaganda.

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          • traderconfessions
            traderconfessions

            We landed men on the moon but the men who returned were aliens.. most likely Zionists. SAC can get you a link.

            Also, are you a fuckin’ idiot to ask that question?

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        • ferd

          Thanks for the moon answer. Interesting take. I disagree BTW.

          Anyway, I also disagree about “their” concern about Clinton spilling some info. If there is one thing that I have learned since 9/11, it’s that evidence doesn’t much matter. The people can be easily programmed to believe … or disbelieve ….whatever.

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          • sarcrilege

            The Klinton – 9/11 scenario is NOT the same. No one is gunning for any specific individual in the 9/11 Mossad/CIA inside job who would start spilling beans so un-official evidence and common sense doesnt matter.
            However, Trump is after one specific individual, HRC, who would talk during trial and very likely insured herself with tons of material that would hit the public domain the moment one feather on her head is ruffled. The Klinton crime familia is embedded in the deep state way too deep and know way too much. The Chabad-Lubavitchs would have to suicide and wipe -out the whole Klinton clan in one, clean blow to prevent any leaks.

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  3. heckler

    I’ve said before on this site – they could charge any one of us with a felony if they wanted to, and that’s fucked up. So fucked up.

    But c’mon Fly – if there’s nothing to hide then why all the lies? Around every corner, more damn lies. Trump is greasy and he shouldn’t have fucked around with the Russians. And all you American cowboys out there shouldn’t have become red soviet dick suckers the minute Trump told you bend the knee.

    I would have preferred to never have fucked with Putin. I really liked Trump’s foreign policy when I thought he was putting our country first. Don’t poke the bear I always said. And don’t take a poking from Putin if you don’t have to.

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    • ferd

      Please educate yourself as to who’s fucking with whom. You can argue, if you wish, that we should continue to encroach on Russia both militarily and by fucking with their ability to trade, but don’t buy into the nonsense that we are the innocent victims here. Russia fucks with us, and we fuck with them …and we have done so in a much more aggressive manner than they.

      Powerful interests are after Trump on Russia because he isn’t following their agenda on Russia/Syria/etc – – that’s my wag.

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      • ironbird

        Ahh… The ferd finally believes in the Orange God. Took long enough.

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        • ferd

          LOL. Trump has bombed Syria, supported the slaughter in Yemen, trashed talked and green lighted acts of war against Qatar, war mongered against Iran, deployed more troops to Afghanistan, increased military spending from their already ridiculous levels, and sought to increase the already-destabilizing levels of income inequality in this country.

          Not quite a god in my view. But if he steers away from WWIII, that’ll be cool.

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          • Cricket

            Trump is barking, not biting. His firework display in Syria was just that – he hit a empty abandoned airfield that was put in service again within a few hours. But he did it very casually over chocolate cake at Mar Lago with Jinping.

            Remember when the Chinese publicly embarrassed Obama’s team? This was a little payback and a clear message to Xi Jinping : “Don’t fuck with me – I’m not Obama”.

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  4. Cricket

    It’s been said that the average American breaks three laws each day. In Russia the laws are so complex that it is impossible to comply with one without breaking another.

    There is an epic battle for the soul of America under way. Historical greatness awaits anyone who joins Trump to fight the good battle and win.

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  5. ferd

    “Consider the behavior of post-Cold War America, after Moscow gave up its empire, pulled all its troops out of Europe, let the USSR dissolve into 15 nations and held out a hand in friendship.

    We gathered all the Warsaw Pact nations and three former Russian Federation republics into a NATO alliance targeted at Russia. We put troops, ships and bases into the Baltic on the doorstep of St. Petersburg. We bombed Russia’s old ally Serbia for 78 days, forcing it to surrender its birth province of Kosovo.

    Among the failings of America’s post-Cold War foreign policy elites are hubris, arrogance and an utter absence of that greatest of gifts that the gods can give us — “to see ourselves as others see us.”

    Can we not see why the Russian people, who saw us as friends in the 1990s, no longer do so, and why Putin, a Russia-First nationalist, has an 80 percent approval rating on the issue of standing up for his country?”
    http://buchanan.org/blog/patching-it-up-with-putin-127304

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  6. unrelated

    What’s going on in Syria? The typical messaging of distraction usually indicates an effort to shift attention away from an inconvenient fact or info.

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  7. acehood

    So what? He’s the President, not Joe Schmo. Little higher standard.

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  8. fxtradepro

    I was at my in laws earlier….they had another couple over and I casually throughout a little political weather balloon mentioning the chaotic state D.C. Is in, and that I felt both sides were at fault and needed to tone it down, (attempting to be bipartisan as possible). The woman (her moms friend), her eyes went dead black, and the whites turned red….I shit u not the look she gave me would’ve scared Alfred Hitchcock shitless. Whoa….the resistance is in a state of psychosis.

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    • cancel19

      You got a glimpse of how civil wars are started. When I, as an army brat read history books, it use to strike me how people could be so intrenched in their ideology that they would cause harm to their fellow human being. Now as an adult I understand how and why.

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  9. ferd

    Just to be clear, my “learned since 9/11” comment was in reference to things like how easily people were programmed to support going after Saddam even though he was a secular leader who had nothing to do with the reported attackers. I have no evidence and no way of knowing if 9/11 was an inside job. I still guess that the rank and file at our intel agencies are real patriots …so I doubt it.

    And Sarc, recall that reportedly CIA agents wanted to spread a few $million around to tribal leaders in the north of Afghanistan …and reportedly, those locals could have sealed off escape for Bin Laden and crew …but they were sidelined for the sake of the big show in Iraq.

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