I can only smile about this for a second or two — because I know the true losers in this charade of D.C. politics are the American people. Obamacare is failing and will get worse. Premiums are soaring and big pharma and hospitals are milking it for every last cent.
Sure, this failed attempt to repeal and replace Obamacare is a setback for Paul Ryan and his GOPshills. Trump doesn’t exactly win, other than to make his enemy, Paul Ryan, look like a complete jackass. The stock market should like this — because it means more welfare, more money for big healthcare. Hence, their share prices should continue higher — as they feed off the government tit.
The losers in all are the aspirational class, the plebs making $150-250k per annum, living in Mcmansions, trying to raise a family. This is an easterly wind for them and I don’t think they deserve this level of incompetence by their government.
In a press conference following the failed passage of the Ryan bill, Trump placed some of the blame on democrats, saying they didn’t give a single vote. Then his killer instincts kicked in and he declared, several times, that Obamacare would ‘explode’ — taking with it government healthcare as we know it.
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Single payer or bust, friendo. Fight it all you want.
Fuhgeddaboudit ! Just crush the protectionist pharma monopoly and let all the generic drug makers in to take over the market. Let the Canucks in to supply cheap meds.
Nothing explodes in government unless the military blows it up.
By the way on April 15th you will still be paying for abortions and sex change operations.
Risk pools
Risk pools need to be adequately funded. It’s the same thing. At the end of the day sick/poor people will be subsidized. One way or another. Deal with it.
Agree. There is no fix for healthcare and Trump figured that out weeks ago. It will cost us one way or another. What was it…”nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated” LMAO
They have been for a long time. Nothing new.
Any good websites illustrating the numbers behind who’s health care costs are increasing / by what rate? (to pay for those who get *almost* free health care from the govt.)
“…the idiot Bush”… that’s rich Fly, truly rich and quite less than your pop culture market savvy.
“We control the House, the Senate, and the Oval Office. We can’t get anything done and when we try, we blame the other side for our incompetence.” MAGA after we are done fucking it up.
From “everyone will be covered” with”beautiful coverage” to “the best thing we can do politically” is let healthcare for tens of millinions of Americans “explode”
Thanks, POTUS. Enough winning already!
I don’t even think it will implode. Volatility in premiums will subdue and people will be happy to get health problems checked out before they become fucking chronic.
The best thing we can do is move onto tax cuts and pretend we didn’t try to repeal Obamacare 54 times.
Did he say when all these things would transpire?
The trolls are feeling awfully confident today. Great to see you guys come out of your hole, I look forward to watching you choke on your hubris.
The unwavering support for Obamacare is perplexing to me. The average American is getting completely and utterly fucked under this legislation. Ryan care my not be the solution, but inaction certainly isn’t the solution.
Obamacare sucks, but that’s not the point. These guys had 7 years, it’s a joke. Trump should’ve waited until they had something that could pass. The BIll sucked, and he approved of it. Own it.
The world must be a difficult place to get anything done at all if you think you have to get things exactly right on the first time every single time you try. With that mentality no one should ever propose anything because it might fail. We are less than 3 months in and nothing prevents anyone from proposing the same exact bill… or perhaps a better one.
But it was a piece of shit. It’s not about it passing or not passing. It’s about some ducking effort. We’ve heard about it for this long and this is what they came up with.
Anybody who thinks Obamacare/ACA is perfect has no relationship with reality. Anybody who thinks they can repeal it after 7 years on the books and 20 million lives relying on it is an idiot.
The unfettered allegiance to the Manchurian Couch Potato is even worse.
better than unfettered allegiance to a Kenyan pederast. Go fuck yourself.
KKK!!!!
I have no idea of whom you are speaking. Please expand upon your statement with facts.
How is the average American getting fucked, exactly?
He blamed the Dems! Hilarious
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It is their Shit! Now own it like a man, transgender, tadpole, amphibian, our what the fuck your pussy/Dick wants to be!
Well, Obamacare is the dems shit. This was entirely different shit.
Obamacare still exists dude!
Yes, and these tools blew the one thing they’ve been talking about for 7 years. They proved again, they had no plan and were playing politics. They wanted the votes and that was it, and he let it slide.
Time for joshua to start blogging
Bennyhill, sounds great. Unfortunately I write about as well as a 6th grader on bath salts. Also, I would have no audience. Trumpsters, CONservatives and Liberlolz would all equally hate me would be my guess. I’ll just keep all of my amazing brilliance in my own head.
We just need the baby boomers to hurry up and die already. They over extended themselves financially so they won’t fucking leave the work force until “diversity movements” finally push them out. Then they get sick and make us subsidize their fucking $100,000 / year medicine bills to keep them on the dole that much longer.
Just fucking die already.
Don’t feel bad, you are not the only internet moron who jumps to vilify a whole class of people. It is a common low IQ grunting response to complexity.
Baby boomers have been paying into the system since forever. Ironically it is the people that we call the “Greatest Generation” who really benefited out of proportion to both their SS and Medicare contributions. Early boomers may do OK (depending on how long the big reset takes), but late boomers will never get out of they system what they paid in.
Yeah, just a damn shame those Greatest Generation fuckers didn’t pay in before SS and Medicare were enacted. Talk about a fucking moronic stance. You suck.
Voters back when it was enacted happily voted for the pols that gave them free candy and called it “insurance” and told them that they had “earned” the benefit and that they “deserved” it. Now follow this if your are able, some of the Greatest Generation did not support the scam. See, it’s complicated.
Behavioral differences between generations exist, but they’re dwarfed by the common animal trait of liking free stuff.
soc sec would be fine if average wages rose as fast as inflation. My grandparents didnt use up 1/5 of the healthcare services my parents use. Baby boomers standard of living from the leave it to beaver days to now… has been retarded.
Baby boomers could have paid for college with part time minimum wage jobs. How any of them are not sitting on half a million is beyond me. Stupid. Spent too much. Too many new cars.
Po Pimp knows the deal.
And for 65+ odd years the Boomers had a chance to realize that “hey, we’re a fucking drain on the system so we should cut back and take care of our future generations” but instead said “fuck it, let’s buy the fucking Benz.” And they did fuck all except vote for fuckers that promised them that SS and Medicare will be there for them. Fuck the future generations.
I’m all for killing the boomers. They were the worst generation ever. Let’s start a war and send them in first.
The Great Degenration -Niall Ferguson discusses this very point
quick takeaways
its called the generational partnership. He argues that excessive public debts are a symptom of the break down of the social contract between generations. How does the social contract between generations get restored?
Well a balanced-budget amendment may be a reasonable start
Public sector balance sheets should be drawn up…..generational accounts should be prepared on a regular basis showing the inter generational implications of the current policy (Laurence Kotlikoff)
public deficits allow current voters to live at the expense of those generations not yet of voting age…..
To many Fuck’s in your comment. Hard to understand.
Just fuckin die already? Given your lack of appreciation for human life, I can’t understand why you would even have a dog in this fight.
Try using more descriptive adjectives when you communicate. I know your emotional right now and want to vent, but take a breath.
its very clear what his point is. and very clear you have no rebuttal.
Failing to give a rebuttal does not make it CLEAR I have no rebuttal. Poor logic there Peaches. Not so much of a Peach are you? False advertising. Nice touch. Typical left-wing ploy. Name something the opposite of what it is.
Doesn’t look great for healthcare insurers long term until the government buys them out.
Can we just cut through the shit and repeal the 22nd Amendment and let Bill Clinton be POTUS for life, please?
How big a piece of shit are you? Exactly. Death cult fucking rapist loving scumbag. Hell is hot they say.
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I guess they didn’t realize how complicated health care was. 7 years, man. The mistake was Russian it through.
The answer lies at mar a lago I’m sure
I honestly think it was a racial / policital move. You’ve seen the stats. Most people love their new health care but hate “obamacare.” Once they figured out they were gonna lose doctors visits they started showing up to town halls.
Republicans honestly thought the common man was on board for major tax breaks for the richest man. The man man. So silly.
Trump knows what good health care would be. And that also, it would be POPULAR!
Mmmm. That new car smell is gone.
LMAO
Trump is winning even when he appears to be losing. Well played, sir….well played.
WRONG! This is a big win for the American people. Cuntservatards thought “oh this is our chance to give mega tax breaks to the top 0.1%” and the people were all like “fuck that you dicks – Trump promised better healthcare and this is shit.”
This is the people calling in and saying don’t vote for this bill, or we will have your nuts in a snare. This is the people calling BS.
You keep mentioning the Freedom Caucus but have failed to point out that a lot of the backlash came from Republicans by way of the left. Because people are actually getting care now. Not just “access.” Obamacare sucks for some no doubt, but it’s the best thing they have come up w yet.
I was just in the ER Sunday getting 10 stitches due to a kitchen knife related incident (extra Fly). Knowing I had the insurance to get the CARE made it way less painful.
Go oil up and do some curls Paul Ryan
Yeah, the Bill sucked. It was pulled, as it should have been. Now they know what needs to be worked on. But seriously, where is the win for the American people? Ask yourself that question again in 6 months when nothing has been done and Obamacare is imploding/exploding at the same time.
in 150 years Obamacare will be the bill passed by the president who decided Americans deserve healthcare as a right. It will always be remembered as a disaster… but a step in the right direction.
Maybe Trump will fix it and make it single payer… as he said would be the best solution. The government pays. We all get basic healthcare for free. Insurance companies can still make a killing selling larger more inclusive packages to the middle class and stupid expensive stuff to the rich… who enjoy throwing away their money.
Everyone gets insurance, no denial of coverage… Barack Obama did it. That is the WIN for the American people.
Republicans want to take this new “right” away and the common man ain’t havin it.
Good try huckster. Nerp, It will be known as the big shift. Get on the right side my friend. Price pays
I am 62 and have NEVER cut myself in the “kitchen” that required anything more than a small bandaid for a couple of hours. And I have cooked my own food most nights for 25+ years. Are you a Moron? Or a pajama boy paper pusher?
Lol! I was feverishly cleaning when I knocked the blade off the magnetic bar – knife came straight down across two of my fingers. If you really cook you know the importance of sharp knives. Wish I could post pics – it will be a cool scar.
It doesn’t take a genius to see what’s down the pike as far as healthcare costs…employees all across America are going to start picking up the increased costs in health insurance to their payroll deductions in addition to what their employers already pay. It will be remembered as President Trump tried to pass a change but breaking news, Dems and repubs did nothing. That the bill was bullshit will be forgotten.
BS. Trump didnt do shit. This was Ryan’s bullshit bill to cut medicaid. Trump will hopefully stick to his word (hahaha) and push for single payer like he said he would.
Everyones covered. Government pays. He said it.
I really fucked with the matrix here, turning a apolitical finance site into a political fight session. On most sites, it’s an echo chamber. But we have ourselves a good olde fashioned American civil war here — by design.
I always wanted to partake.
We are the most powerful country on earth! Why we can’t have a pragmatic healthcare system is beyond everything. We want the best healthcare science can offer but not at the expense of giving Doctors and Pharmaceutical/Healthcare products companies a “Blank Check”! Doctors should not have the god-like status given to them reflecting the thinking from the seventeenth century. We own our own bodies and are more educated than the folks back then. There are many ways to treat diseases not only the “scientific way”. Therefore insurance coverage should reflect these realities. Have the same across all states just like car insurance. If a person not want to live any more because of severe illness then respect that! There is more but too numerous to mention. Like not being able to share healthcare information due to stupid archaic “privacy” bullshit that causes more cost in the context of computers and being in the “Information age”! It is only disgusting politics and greed that prevents the coming of a solution to this fucking important problem!!! That’s it now good night to you all and I hope nobody goes bankrupt due to the idiots running the system.
KILL THE BABY BOOMERS.
Come and try it youngun…
And take their houses!