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Gold Gets the Knife Today

So far, this is the biggest single day draw down for gold since the taper day. If bonds can get hit too, dare I say, we are setting up for a really rip roaring market here today.

There are some dislocations in the market, due to high margin interest, margin calls and fear. The forced selling will abate, as the market stabilizes, and those with ample cash reserves should fill the vacuum and bid stocks higher–at some point in this bear cycle. Even if you are the biggest, grizzliest bear, you should know, based upon market history, that drawdowns take time. Bear markets extend over a long period of time, torturing longs with small drops, false moves higher, then large gaps to the downside.

Aside from the high growth drawdown, the general market is doing just fine.

The only reason why I stubbornly stick to my bullish thesis is because I am conditioned, via 5 years of uninterrupted stocks market gains, to believe that the stock market is the only thing worth saving in America. There is a lot of liquidity out there and no place to put all of that money.

Argue against it all you like; but buying any dip, no matter the news, has been a winning strategy since 2009. Pray tell me, why is it different this time around?

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54 comments

  1. matt_bear

    Gold and Silver stocks are for losers.

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    • The Fly

      A very general statement, but mostly true.

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    • Ohthe BOMB

      I trade Silver ETF AGQ from both the long and short sides, and I do pretty well. Buy when silver is below $20.00, sell when silver is above $20.50.

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  2. drake sucks

    What is different? It starts with a Y.

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  3. Bruce

    Bloodmoon duh

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  4. Freebie

    Why is it different this time? Hopefully it isn’t but at the same time the bearded clam is gone and we haven’t had the typical 20% market correction that happens every 3 years or so.

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    • The Fly

      Whenever the market dipped, the Fed felt it was there job to step in an arrest it. Crazy, but true. So the odds of a 20% dip is not likely. However, as always, I could be wrong.

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    • The Real Muppet

      +1 No bearded clam makes it different. My guess is we see a whipsaw filled grind that takes 10% off the S&P over a few months.

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    • The Next New Cat Thing
      The Next New Cat Thing

      Were back to the new normal where 20% drops in a growing economy require one of the following:

      – Oil price spike ($140 would work)
      – Natural disaster (7.5 quake in LA)
      – Financial institution heart attack
      (A weird bank name that no one never heard of “Rabobank” goes belly up)
      -Serious foreign policy incident the world is unprepared for
      (Someone from Chechnya or Ukraine gets lucky and takes out Putin)

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  5. TJWP

    Given that it is broadly accepted that QE is not excempt from diminishing returns why would you expect the result to be the same every time?

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  6. ripper

    ritholz is an old fucker who has absolutely no skin in the game. does not trade, just selling research and ads on his blog. the attack by one fine gentleman of the comment section is 100% justified.

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    • The Fly

      Barry managed plenty of money. What are you talking about?

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      • bart smith

        Barry is a bloated buffoon. And that is his glamour shot.

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    • Jeremy

      Cramer managed money and made 100m for himself, does that make him so great? Everyone adds to society in their own unique way, and some take away.

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      • AJbaker

        It would be more believable if you said he lost 100 million in the market. I seriously doubt he made any money in the market. He is wrong more often then he is right.

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  7. TraderCaddy

    Gold stocks and Emerging market stocks (also down today) have pretty much been in lock step for two years now.

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  8. Jeremy

    lets start the day with some poems. please

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  9. TraderCaddy

    Another bear attack in the neighborhood about half a mile from me.
    One tried to get into my pool several weeks ago (still have a pic from 2 years ago of one trying to take a dive).
    A Mama bear and two cubs took a stroll through my ground cover last week.

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  10. gorby

    I agree with buying the dip but only if
    they are huge dips with out the probability
    of insolvency

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  11. Johnrotten

    Fuck those poems. He’s an asshole

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  12. The Butcher

    When theres blood in the streets, don’t buy gold?

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  13. No One

    Play is the pallad. not gold.

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  14. No One

    Is the front photo “the fly” after meth?

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  15. Les Grossman

    This was FLY at 9:31 this morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPO6dOPxmr8

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  16. Tommy Says

    Thousands of years from now when America is gone and is part of the history books it will be remembered most by its stock market more than anything.

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    • TJWP

      Unfortunately most of the great stories, frauds, and legends remain just that, and are not recorded anywhere for future generations

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  17. bood

    big bears out there .., look forward to witness them eviscerated

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  18. xxxHuggieBearxxx D.P.M
    xxxHuggieBearxxx D.P.M

    Very healthy market.

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  19. og

    Poof!

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  20. JPE

    Kudos to OA for nailing the gold sell off. Been short gold to hedge my miner positions.

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  21. Blunderbuss

    re gold – see how long it last…Russia and rest of the market smoked on this:

    Special operation under way in Kramatorsk – Ukrainian Defense Ministry

    Several people wounded in Kramatorsk airport shooting – self-defense representative

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  22. TraderCaddy

    Erections back at half staff?

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  23. xxxHuggieBearxxx D.P.M
    xxxHuggieBearxxx D.P.M

    All is not well in Brazil for once. Now THAT is worrisome.

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  24. Tough but fair

    That’s not the only thing getting the knife today.

    Momo meltdown back on.

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  25. Bad moon rising

    now pain

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