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Back in the Mine

As you know by now, “The Fly” left the comforts of his fully powered, food packed pantry, home in the Princeton area of NJ for a coal mine. There is much work to be done inside the mine, long of ANR (no Gartman)– but I am just the man to do it.

ANR is posting earnings tomorrow. Either way, it’s a win win. Should ANR disappoint and the stock plunge, I will become the biggest buyer of coal this world has ever known or seen. If it goes up, yet again, I will buy more.

It’s very simple.

The laws of supply and demand dictate coal will trade higher. Look at BTU’s quarter for evidence of this suspicion.

When King Romney gets elected, I will have my coal liquidity event. Should Obama win, I will buy more coal on the dip, also very simple and concise.

Thank you very much.

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217 comments

  1. jimmy_two_times

    what about CLF?

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  2. chivo

    you are crazy if you think romney is going to win….

    bloomey, colin powell, economist, new republic, ny times, intrade

    what else do you want to see?

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    • Frog

      He’s making plans for either candidate to win now.

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    • buylo

      you forgot to mention the NJ governor’s, Chris Christie, endorsement of Obama in recent days! Or do Republicans think Christie is going to invite Romney and Ryan to visit the Sandy disaster zone where they can sing Kumbaya and hand out the food cans and peanut butter jars Romney and Ryan have been collecting in the last few days?

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      • The Fly

        Nj is firmly dnc anyway

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      • Frog

        Christie knows there is no point in being unpleasant to Obama when he needs his help & is getting it.

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      • Cascadian

        Christie was sucking up to 0bama to get as much Federal $ as possible for his people. It’s what he should be doing. Bloomberg figured out he fucked up so he tried to make up for it by endorsing Bronco Bama.

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      • mad_scientist

        Jihad Jihadi, I mean Chris Christie, is sabotaging Romney because the fat man has the intention to run for president in 2016, and he cannot do that if Romney wins this election.

        Total fraud betrayal of republicans for his personal gain.

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    • The Fly

      Those are all fucked faces. He wins via landslide

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      • charlie

        They lack the gift of foresight, Senor. It is clear Romney will sweep.

        Also, welcome back to the mine.

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        • fake amish

          Agreed. Senor Fly has spoken. Where the fuck have these doubters been the last few years? Stop trying to tink dumbasses. The 0 is toast.

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        • Dorkler

          What planet are you living on? Since Bush-Gore, what election has been a landslide Toolbag. We’re as polarized as we’ve ever been!

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          • fake amish

            No way. The leftard media has infected your brain. The 0 is a douche as prez. It is that simple. Who beyond the socialists and the dirt poor are for the 0? Try thinking.

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          • Dorkler

            Why don’t you, all you do is spout drivel! How can you deny polarization?

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          • fake amish

            Who is polarized? Please do tell about the all the peeps you personally know that will fucking die if the 0 is not re-elected? The dude is a simple fail. It is called a pink slip.

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          • obama for prez

            Fake Amish has got to be the dumbest poster on iBC.

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          • JakeGint

            And yet, you’ve self-identified as an Obama voter.

            I think there’s little question regarding your intelligence level, or barring that, at least your ability to process facts in evidence and arrive at a logical conclusion.

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          • mad_scientist

            I don’t deny that Obama has polarized much of America against him since taking office and stinking up the joint. Yes, I am polarized and pissed off at Obama. Many like me out there, although I never voted for that Jew-hating America-hating commie to begin with.

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          • BottleRocket

            Please define Socialists. Marxists, Leninists? Or let me guess… some cute catchphrase that you use to label people who believe that healthcare is a right and not a luxury.

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          • fake amish

            Bottle who pays for it? When you go to the store who pays for your shit? If you want someone else to pay for your shit you are a socialist. Good enough?

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          • BottleRocket

            I’d gladly pay 10 percent more a year in income tax for it. That and free state university educations. I’m of the belief that all children in this country are born equal as citizens. They should all get healthcare and education without prejudice.

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          • Mr. Cain Thaler

            Ugh, no thanks. The last thing this country needs is another 20 million kids getting free political science degrees.

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          • fake amish

            Nothing wrong with the realization of being wrong. Try thinking on your own. Freedom is a hell of a thing.

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          • JakeGint

            Bottle, if healthcare is a “right,” then that would necessitate a collective ownership of the labor of every healthcare worker in the country.

            You cool with that?

            I’ll give you an hour to consider the implications. If you’ve not come up with anything, then I’ve my answer anyway.

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          • BottleRocket

            One word. Israel. You’re not an antisemitist are you? You’re a Republican, you can’t be. Have a look at their healthcare system. A private network can coexist with a universal system. It does in many countries, ie England.

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          • JakeGint

            So, if I disagree with universal healthcare, and the enslavement of those of my good friends who have gone deep into debt (not to mention dedicated 10-12 years of extra schooling) to become doctors, I’m an anti-Semite?

            Just trying to follow your … er, “logic,” here.

            I guess if I don’t like UK’s NHS, then I am also an anti-Britite?

            😉

            Please let me know what other services brought to you by your fellow humans for a fee are actually yours by “right.”

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          • Mad_Scientist

            Lol healthcare in Israel is pathetic. It doesn’t even compare to america. They are experts at trauma thanks to the arabs but that’s it. Many israelis have never been to america so they don’t realize how messed up their healthcare is.

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            who pays for the highways, national defense, etc, etc …. these are all socialist agendas???

            You’re an idiot and Fly should have banned you for life!

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          • JakeGint

            Why are you ranting at now, Kool-aid boy?

            You realize that banning free speech is a key component in the Fascist Toolbag…

            Irony, no?

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          • The Fly

            Obama v Mccain was pretty lopslided

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            Toolbag …. Nice!!!

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    • mad_scientist

      Why would Colin Foul’s opinion matter? He admitted last time he supports Obama because of skin color. So racists are going to influence undecided voters? LOL, you libs….

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      • macpatton

        I would have voted for obama because of the picture of him pulling into a right at Sandy Beach. To do that takes skill and balls. He was saying he could get the country back together… that sounds good to me.

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    • JakeGint

      Economist?

      You realize it’s a Brit publication, yes? And read by about nine more people than read The New Republic.

      Which brings both mags’ total to 31, as of last count.

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      • Ottnott

        Or, as the reality-based world would put it, circulation of The Economist is 1.5 million versus 0.04 million for The New Republic.

        Time to call me a name to distract readers from your habit of fabrication.

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        • Jakegint

          LOL…

          “0.04 million” You mean 40k?

          How many of those are actually read and not just filed in University Library carrels?

          And you know, exactly what I’m talking about … The Economist is not exactly going to sway Ohio, given the bulk of it’s subs are non-US based. Further,it’s a wonk publication, at least here in the States, and has always been center-left leaning. Frankly, I’m still a mite nonplussed at their support for Obama. He is no Third Way Clintonite.

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  3. Mike

    Long EXK and ANR..stopped out of aapl cuz I was a fucking hog…20% to zero….I AM THE KING OF THE IDIOTS (no costanza)..long time buy and hold guy….got to make it and take it!!

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  4. dominator

    can’t vote for somebody with Romnesia…….either way we go higher.

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    • BottleRocket

      What’s the driving force higher?

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      • Frog

        Economy is recovering.

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        • Frog

          Bernanke will drop money from helicopters until it recovers completely.

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          • BottleRocket

            Not the same thing. A recovering economy needs to recover on its own. An economy that is so sick that it needs an unlimited cocaine IV is not a recovering economy.

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          • Frog

            It won”t need QE forever.

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          • BottleRocket

            What makes you so sure?

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          • Sierra Water

            It will take QE until a new currency mechanism is enacted in about 3 years.. Why are people so blinded to the fact that a normal recovery after the Lehman BK is impossible due to level 3 assets being nuked.. It all unravels if you stop QE until the SDR is enacted after the route in US fiats paper????? Short memories u all have…

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            Consumer Confidence

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          • BottleRocket

            What about it? Last one was downwardly revised like always. Maybe people were confident the day of the poll, then the next day they were laid off. Not sure how relevant it is.

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        • BottleRocket

          Local maybe. Global not so much.

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      • Mr. Cain Thaler

        Who cares? It’s Christmas. Make a reason up.

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  5. Belly of the Beast
    Belly of the Beast

    Little pissed that it took the media 17 hours to figure out what I knew yesterday; that NY and NJ is out of gas completely.

    The harbor just opened to the barges, which I think should have been opened Monday afternoon, but the big question, Mr. News Reporter:

    After the barges come in and dock, DOES THE BLACK SHIT NEED TO BE REFINED ?

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    • The Fly

      Come to Princeton. There is all the gas a man could want and more.

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      • Frog

        Can’t you get someone to drive over to where Chess lives and see if he is okay? Everyone is concerned about him.

        But I guess when you have no electricity and no gasoline and your cell phone probably is out of juice, you can’t get in touch with anyone. So he is probably okay.

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      • Belly of the Beast
        Belly of the Beast

        Candlewood, Freehold, Monmouth, Marlboro is as far as I go for the RTE 9 shopping ……….. and cheap gas, of course.

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  6. Cascadian

    Thank you for contributing to global warming. A warment planet means less need for energy consumption.

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  7. Raise Taxes, Raise Spending
    Raise Taxes, Raise Spending

    Romney is like an iceberg. What you can see looks fine, but what you can’t see will kill you.
    He seems like a decent guy but hiding under the water lurks things like the tea party, ready to drive over the fiscal cliff, or the very wealthy waiting to loot the treasury like they did under Bush.
    If you want traditional conservative economic policies like balanced budgets, the only administrations that have consistently provided that have been Democrat.

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    • fake amish

      Fuck that garbage. Pull your head out of your ass. You live in the past. All of the 0 or die asshats are delusional. Rombot has plans. Does 0?

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      • Frog

        Yes, he does. You are the one whose head is in your ass. Romney has plans with no specifics. Obama has done specific things & proposes more of them. And he would have the economy totally recovered by now, if Rebubs in Congress weren’t blocking him from doing more stimulus. Because the Repubs wanted the economy to suck so it would increase their election chances.

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        • fake amish

          Frog there is no way you are so fucking retarded you believe that. You must work for the big government machine. If so it is understandable. Fighting for your lively hood and what not. Try running a business if you want to know how fucked the 0 and the socailist policies are.

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          • Frog

            I do not work for the government. But I also do not watch Faux News or read only RIght Winger web sites like you apparently do, and believe their lies as though they were true.

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          • JakeGint

            What web sites do you read that has you not only mouthing such hard left bon mots as “Faux News,” but completely denying all facts in evidence w. regard to the One?

            Seriously, just a couple of bullets “why I am voting for Obama.” All I’m asking….

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        • mad_scientist

          We already know the specifics of Obama’s plans, and they have all failed for the past 4 years. We are sick of Obama’s specifics. What don’t you libs get about that? Failed policies don’t start working if you try them enough times.

          Remember what Einstein said about the definition of insanity? It applies to you commie libs! Trying the same failed policies over and over again expecting different results.

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      • Raise Taxes, Raise Spending
        Raise Taxes, Raise Spending

        I guess if you had had real answers to my arguments you would have used them.

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        • JakeGint

          What plans have you seen Mr. Obama put forth, even in these last days before the election?

          Really… what plans?

          You do realize his last two budget proposals were voted down 99-0 and 97-0 in the Senate, right?

          You do understand, then, THAT EVEN HIS OWN PARTY TOLD HIM TO FUCK OFF?

          How much of a blindfolded fool does one have to be to continue to support this menace? What could possibly be your motivation?

          Even HE doesn’t put forth a reason to vote for himself!

          It really is like there is some kind of kool-aid that’s been drunk!

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        • Frog

          Yes, he would have.

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  8. The Eye-Talian Stallion
    The Eye-Talian Stallion

    I have driven by my early voting polling place (a megastore) all week. I see lines around the block every day. I did not see this in 2008. Let’s do the math. If 0bama maxed out his turnout in 2008 then the bulk of these new early voters are for Romney.
    0bama wins five states, loses the popular by 9%.

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    • Rob T

      I’ll take the under on that one. Every day of the week. Obama takes it via EC.

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      • JakeGint

        Only if he cheats.

        There’s just no enthusiasm for the guy. Even in the blues.

        Face it, he’s a fucking empty suit.

        A loser. And no one likes a loser.

        Rombot says “win” every day he’s breathing. You better hope he strokes out before Tuesday.

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  9. Frog

    That’s the thing about Right Wingers. When they don’t like reality, they create an alternative reality. But the problem is, it just isn’t true. Obama will win easily.

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  10. noodleboy

    http://youtu.be/TxMD02zU9SE

    ughh

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  11. obama for prez

    Ryan/Romney economic plan is a disaster if you don’t make millions per year. Yes that means you fakeamish with your McDonalds manager salary.

    I will be voting posing as dead people in your crappy swing states of Wisconsin, Ohio and Colorado while the civilized states of the U.S. vote the correct way.

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    • JakeGint

      You are delusional. What about the last four years can you say has been positive? The cronyism? The wasted billions? The trillion dollar deficits? The 1.3% GDP growth? The 23 million unemployed? The gifts to the union buddies in exchange for political backing?

      What can you point to? It’s like you Obamanoid people are absolutely nuts. What is it you are getting from him?

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      • TeahouseOnTheTracks

        Thank the GOP for that and you want more? The Dems are just turning around the aircraft carrier that the GOP beached and about to sail off the sandbar while Mitt makes predictions of energy independence by 2020 when it’s already in the bag … what a joke!

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        • TeahouseOnTheTracks

          Next Mitt & the GOP will claim success from all the economic stimulus from the construction about to begin in NJ & NY from the insurance payouts and FEMA assistance …. You guys are a laugh!

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          • Frog

            Great points, Teahouse. It’s wonderful to have you & others who are courageous enough to join together with me in posting the truth here, in response to the Faux News talking points that the Right Wingers keep posting here.

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          • Mr. Cain Thaler

            Seriously, substituting an ‘au’ for an ‘o’ in Fox News is STILL the most persistently annoying thing I see on the internet.

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          • mad_scientist

            “courageous?” You’re quite the drama queen, Frogger.

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          • JakeGint

            How, teahouse? How are the “Dems turning around the aircraft carrier” yada yada yada.

            Why did it take George Bush about one year after 911 to turn the economy around and your guy hasn’t done anything but nearly double the debt in four?

            Why did George Bush have below five percent unemployment for most of his term (until the Dem backed blow up of Fan & Fred) and Obes can’t manage to get it below 8% (barring statistical abberations)?

            Why can’t he get GDP growing faster than the anemic sub-European levels it’s been at?

            Why can’t he get even his own Senate to take his nonsense budgets seriously?

            Why does he continue to attack American energy even as it has become the greatest job generator in a state he so desperately needs (Ohio)?

            Do you have answers to ANY of this Tea? Are you that deeply immersed in the Kool aid, that ALL YOU HAVE after four long years is:

            “I swear, it’s Bush’s fault!”

            Do you realize how fucking PATHETIC that is, buddy?

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          • JakeGint

            Oh yeah, Tea…

            Why does Obama keep lying about his gigantic fuckup in Benghazi?

            Haven’t you clowns learned from that piddling break in at the Watergate hotel last century that it’s not the crime BUT THE COVERUP that pisses the American people off?

            When is Obama going to come clean about abandoning his own ambassador and those Seals in Libya, Tea?

            A pathetic, incompetent hot mess, this Obama.

            Worse than Carter, even.

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            Bush took advantage of the support he got from the 911 attack and parlayed that into WAR which siphoned $ into the defense dept and that BS Homeland Security keeping unemployment down but ballooning the debt all while lowering tax rates for his wealthy friends and bankers.

            I’m sure you know this Jake … You just don’t think I will respond and you can say “See, no response.” You should have been Secretary of Propaganda under Carl Rove you’re so full of sheet!

            The only reason it’s taken this long to turn the Carrier around is because the GOP blew the engines running at full trottle on an empty tank. You know damn well it takes much more than 4 years to recover from a depression … Clinton was right. No matter what man was President we would still be struggling from all the damage that has been done the last 20 years and you think that is the solution? Please ………….

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          • Frog

            You do realize that Jake will go on forever with his Faux News talking points.

            No one will ever change his mind, & that’s his right. But our posts may make a few points to other people who actually are open-minded enough to consider the facts.

            Politics for the most part is tribal. Folks who are in the economic class where they have a huge income that would be far bigger if they pay low capital gains taxes– Those folks will often vote for the Repub even if he sold our whole country to China or Russia. They would just pay their low taxes to China or Russia then.

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            like Mitt saying he was only interested in helping the middle class with lower taxes not the rich. But as Clinton pointed out (with a grin) … if Mitt lowers the tax rates for the middle class then he does likewise for the rich at the same time!

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          • mad_scientist

            Similar to how when you raise taxes on “the rich” you are raising taxes on all Americans (except for Obama’s welfare homeboys who don’t pay any taxes) – ALL Americans, that includes me, a member of the middle class (unless I’m lower class, I’m not sure).

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          • mad_scientist

            If I’m lower class obama raises taxes on me too. How else can he pay for the massive beaurocracy obamacare?

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          • Frog

            BTW, more excellent points, Tea. It’s a pleasure reading your posts.

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          • DMG

            You’ve got something on your chin.

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          • JakeGint

            Right, let’s make up our narratives now…

            It was all Bush’s fault, despite the generally rosy economy up through 2006, when Madam Pelosi and Mr. Reid took control of Congress (you know those guys with the purse strings).

            Reid and Pelosi (they’re Dems, Tea, you know?) didn’t do their ultimate damage however, until they got their Chicago Alderman into the White House, then the shit REALLY starting hitting the fan… or should I say “the US tax money started heading out the door?”

            And please Tea, SPARE ME your Dem bullshit about how Bush’s tax cuts “cost” the government anything. Putting aside that those tax cuts spurred the economy to 5. 6. 7% growth rates over the second Bush term, and poured TRILLIONS of cash into the economy, it’s always SPENDING that’s the problem.

            In that sense, you certainly have a point that the wars cost money. But how much Tea?

            Well, not nearly as much as Pelois, Reid and Obama’s spending ORGY that followed the One’s election…

            But who are we going to believe Tea, your shopworn bullshit talking points, or some very simple graphical illustrations that show just how egregious your party of kindergartener defecants has been for the American people?

            Who are we going to believe, anyway, Teahouse’s Kos Kid Talking Points or your own LYING EYES?

            Sorry kid, you’ve got absolutley nada.

            And you STILL haven’t told me what Obama has done — this side of nationalizing healthcare and giving big gifts to the insurance companies and the pharmas — to warrant us re-electing him.

            What TEA?

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            More Enlightenment & Propaganda from Dr Goebbels himself …

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          • Jakegint

            Now I’m a Nazi, Tea?

            That’s all you’ve got? Not one single rebut of any of the cogent points, but instead a speedy descent into Godwin’s Law?

            Truly pathetic. But just wait, I’m sure Frog will be along to tell you what a blessing your inane retorts are for his peace of mind.

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  12. theedge111

    Plutocracy wins either way.

    You are a fool to vote for either of these clowns if you actually think they are going to change things.

    The super PAC’s interests will be taken care of under either regime.

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    • BottleRocket

      And that’s precisely why the Guillotine was invented. Off with their heads!

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      • JakeGint

        You joke, but Jacobanism has been the underpinning of the “Progressives” since the mid 19th century.

        In the U.S., I mean. You nuts don’t get your way and that means its time to kill someone. And you wonder why we on the right go about armed…

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        • Frog

          Right, and so progressives DON”T go around armed because we are such violent people.? Ridiculous.

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          • JakeGint

            No, you fuckers take control of the government so you can send the gendarmes to knock people’s doors in during the middle of the night and drag them away.

            ESPECIALLY if they created a dumb video you needed as a pretext to cover your failure to protect your Ambassador in Libya.

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            as I recall it was Bush who instituted the Patriot Act … exactly what you described abovr!

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            Jake’s afraid you might try to strangle him so he’s packing an automatic … LOL

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          • JakeGint

            Only you beta males look to the government for succor (and censorship).

            You stick with Valerie Jarrett. I’ll consult w. Messrs Smith & Wesson.

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    • Frog

      There is a differnce between the 2 parties– not as much difference as I would like. But Dems rob the middle class signifcantly less than RobbedMe & the Repubs do.

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      • JakeGint

        Statements like this are the closest thing to pure idiocy on the internets.

        There is only one way to “rob” a citizen through the force of the gov’t and that is through the point of the government gun via taxation or regulation.

        That is the Jacobin Dem’s specialty. Big Government “robs” people of their productive labor and eventually, their dignity. The welfare state is a cancer, and it’s already killed Greece. You want that creeping, cynical death here?

        Get logical or get lost.

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        • fake amish

          It is insanity. It must be. The 0 worshippers do not even know why they worship. But still they do. Fucking lunacy.

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          Raise Taxes, Raise Spending

          Don’t forget shipping all the good paying jobs to China so the wealthy can admire another “0” at the end of their pay stub.

          Hey, what is good for the 1% is good for the country, according to Romney.

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          • Jakegint

            Do you even understand how an economy works?

            That if you make things more expensive HERE (like labor), they will be relocated to places where they are less so?

            What do you think the Emperor’s new taxes, healthcare bills and regulatory price increases are doing to the price of labor?
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  13. Freebie

    Check this out, the racist Mormons church banned blacks until 1978. Romney was a missionary and active church member during that time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t6t113syr0

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    • Mad_Scientist

      Obama’s inauguration featured a speech by reverend he chose who just recently said “all whites are going to hell”.

      Little more relevant than 19 f’ng 78

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      • Frog

        I’m sure that all your political beliefs are identical to those of your minister & to those of everyone else who has ever spoken at some event related to your career. Perhaps you would like to be held responsible for everything such a person ever does & every word that ever comes out of his mouth.

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        • JakeGint

          Are you defending the anti-Mormon bigot, or the racist pastor in the above commentary?

          You guys are all over the map tonight…

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        • mad_scientist

          Like any responsible person, if a rabbi was anti America and anti-Israel or preaching something fundamentally wrong, I would get up and leave and I would associate with another shul! (Shul is a word for synagogue). That is what responsible adults do! They choose where to worship and whom to associate with.

          I certainly wouldn’t honor an america-hating or racist rabbi to be in charge of my wedding ceremony! You trying to defend this is absolutely loony! You are not an ideologue but a cult worshipper. the cult of obama.

          None of my rabbis profess the corrupt twisted values that, lehavdil, Obama’s racist pastors preach.

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      • JakeGint

        You know the Left is hurting hard when thy jack out the Mormon bigotry card.

        It was only a matter of time, however.

        You couldn’t even receive the Democrat nomination well into the 20th century without the backing of the KLAN. The racists are still running the Dem Party to this day, however, and they are still screwing blacks first and other shades of brown second.

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        • Frog

          You ought to work for Faux News, Gint. In the present time period there are by far more racists in the Repub party.

          http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-10-27/news/34768456_1_john-sununu-president-obama-man-scares

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            If Obama were White they’d be applauding him for his accomplishments … The racism is obvious and it starts with those that espouse the idealism of the JBS.

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          • JakeGint

            What accomplisments Tea?

            I’ve been asking all night for a simple list. Bring it, or STFU.

            Obama is an empty suit, a vessel used by the Chicago Machine to spread it’s brand of corruption nationwide.

            The big payoffs have been made, the money has swirled down the drain, and we taxpayers are left holding the bag, with six trillion in new debt and an anemic economy to show for it.

            We got zilch for four years of this petty dictator but bigger government and a far more benighted and dependent citizenry. If that’s “success” in any one’s book but a Machine Politician’s, I’d like to see a show of hands.

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            You responded to it once already and that was a short list …

            Obama accomplished more in 4 years than the GOP the last 20 save for successfully ruining the nation’s economy and bringing the world to it’s knees … Way to go Bush/GOP!

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            if you are that ignorant though you can do some research here:

            http://obamaachievements.org/list

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          • JakeGint

            No thanks, you list them.

            Saying “the GOP sucks” is not an answer.

            Obama sucks… the worst EVER, and I’ve enumerated the points in many of the above points.

            Rebut them, or don’t. You’re responses– or lack thereof — are evidence enough.

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            I respond and your excuse is I must list … they are too numerous Jake so that’s your excuse to blow me off … You’re a bag of hot air!

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          • JakeGint

            What responses, Tea?

            Why are you voting for Obama? Don’t send me talking points, I want to know why YOU are going to re-up on this losing bet.

            What is he going to do, SPECIFICALLY, that has you hot to drop dime again?

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            Jake, you’re an empty suit trying to prop up your own business interests!

            How’s those contributions to Rove’s Superpac going … at a Crossroads are they?

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          • JakeGint

            I wouldn’t know… I contribute directly, but wish Karl the best, of course.

            I’m an empty suit? Then why can’t you rebut even one of my points? Weak toast, Tea.

            Your ad hominem-only accusations detract from your ability to argue with any persuasiveness… just saying.

            Why not try logic and reason?

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          • mad_scientist

            “If Obama were White they’d be applauding him for his ”

            None of us applauded bill clinton. He was white and a disgrace. Obama is far worse. His skin color is irrelevant except to you lib jesse jackson worshippers.

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          • fake amish

            Frog you are an asshat. Just answer the Senators question. Why are you voting for the 0? I know you do not know why. But try. Why are you voting for the 0? Baby steps. Just attempt an answer.

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          • Frog

            Fake Amisth This article has some of my many reasons for voting for Obama:

            http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2012/10/29/121029taco_talk_editors

            BTW, why is Gint called “Senator?” Is he a relative of a Repub Senator? Iss that why he is so heavily invested in seeing Robbedme win the election?

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          • JakeGint

            I’m invested because I care about this country as a continuing constitutional republic, and I have children.

            Shit is looking pretty bleak right now, and if Americans are dumb enough to elect this crook again, and allow him to put more non-constitutionalists on the Supreme’s, we may very well be done.

            That’s why I’m “invested.”

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            Shit was looking pretty bleak under Bush when the credit markets collapsed … where were you then?

            Now you’re complaining as the economy works it way back from the depths of despair and you’re so busy selling businesses that you don’t have time to blog … Funny sheet!

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          • JakeGint

            Dipwad, I’m selling businesses right now, because business owners are being scared out of them by Obama’s policies, not because “times are great.”

            People are taking their money OUT of this economy… and not reinvesting it in new ventures… that’s a problem, Tea!

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          • Po Pimp

            Uhhh if someone is selling a business then another person is buying the fucking thing.

            Good God almighty that is one of the most piss poor “arguments” you’ve ever made and Lord knows you’ve made some shitty ones.

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          • Jakegint

            Those buying businesses are the cronies who are protected … under this plan there will be way fewer entreprenurial businesses and only behemoths… much like Europe.

            This is a good thing?

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            because he’s a political propaganda bot and big superpac supporter especially when it comes to free speech for corporations.

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          • JakeGint

            I support free speech for EVERYONE Tea.

            Even your leg breaking union buddies!

            (Provided they leave off the thuggery)

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          • fake amish

            An article? Really? Wtf man. Just speak your mind. The Senator is the Senator. The guy is a money maker. Ibankcoin contributor and wicked smart dude. Precious metals specialist.

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            That makes his political theory correct?

            Again, you’re an idiot and a lemming!

            Didn’t Fly ban you?

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  14. BottleRocket

    I can’t wait to read this blog the day after the election. There’s a good chance the FBI will shut it down. Outcome aside, you can’t say it hasn’t been entertaining. Looking forward to the ANR conference call tomorrow. It will be interesting to see what’s said about outlook with the election so near. Best of luck to all of us longs.

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    • JakeGint

      The FBI will shut it down?

      Are you planning fascist retributions or just hoping for them?

      (“Scratch a ‘progressive,’ and uncover the fascist underneath…”)

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      • BottleRocket

        When Obama wins, you Republicans will be calling for blood. I’m an independent not a progressive.

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        • TeahouseOnTheTracks

          People here will be contacted by the CIA … Guess who?

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          • JakeGint

            Dipshit, do you even know that the CIA does?

            Hint– It’s not a domestic organization.

            Is this really the root of all Obamanid fandom? Ignorance?

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          • JakeGint

            Bottle, you are about as independent as Anthony Weiner after his wife found his Blackberry photo files.

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          • Frog

            Bottle, Far Right WIngers do not see Independents, Libertarians etc. etc. They are black/white thinkers. You are either with them or against them. And if you are not with them, you are some kind of socialist or Communist in their eyes. They are just limited in that way.

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          • JakeGint

            What does that mean, Frog? If I don’t like Obama I’m not “with you.”

            I mean, do you realize how dumb that sounds? Could I put the shoe on the other foot and say the same of you because you are not “with” Romney?

            That’s the difference between Repubs and hard left libs… I can think your bumper sticker is stupid WITHOUT keying your car.

            Guess who’s keying cars, Frog?

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          • Po Pimp

            if you are not with them, you are some kind of socialist or Communist in their eyes

            Or terrorist. Don’t forget that they think we’re all terrorists as well.

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          • Jakegint

            Siding with the bright lights again Po?

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          • BottleRocket

            If I had to be specific I would say that I’m a Rockefeller Republican.

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          • JakeGint

            Bullshit. I have a client that actually WORKED for Nelson Rockefeller and he thinks Obama is the worst thing to come down the pike since Jimmah Carter.

            Real republicans, no matter how socially liberal, DO NOT support socialists and other gov’t bully types.

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          • BottleRocket

            Still waiting for you to define a Socialist and how Obama is one.

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          • JakeGint

            He is for redistributing income from those who have it to those who have not, with no strings attached, just because it’s “fair.” He is into government control of industry through regulation in a very large scale. He nationalized two major car companies. He backed the socialist Honduran President over that nation’s constitutional process. He is a supporter of the Castros and on good terms with Hugo Chavez. Shall I continue?

            Familiar with this one?

            “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            This isn’t just a domestic website Jake … it’s international, right?

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          • JakeGint

            It’s on the worldwide web, but it’s American based and owned. What’s that got to do with it?

            Are you in Pakistan now?

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          • Raise Taxes, Raise Spending
            Raise Taxes, Raise Spending

            Pakistan is one of the few countries in the world where polls favor Romney, so, probably not.

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          • JakeGint

            You mean besides Israel?

            I doubt Pakistan favors anyone, but I could see the Pakis disliking the One for nuking their kids with drones.

            But he’s against “torture” at least!

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          • mad_scientist

            They did the voting in Israel already for American citizens. Polls show that 85% of Americans citizens currently residing in Israel voted for Romney.

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        • fake amish

          Republicans do not call for blood. If this country goes to shit we will move. Afterall we have money. You leftist foodstamp queens really do not get it. We are trying to help you think. If you will not? Fuck it. You can have it.

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          • BottleRocket

            So you are saying that you Republicans are a bunch of quitters? Where will you move to? The rest of the world hates you guys.

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          • JakeGint

            We don’t have to move anywhere, but our capital certainly will.

            You “independent” Leftoids don’t get it… “CAPITAL IS MOBILE.”

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            While you move yours out others will be happy to replace it … this will be the first country to attract investment with safe borders and energy independence within 8 years. We will see another industrial revolution as mfg thrives again and our infrastructure is rebuilt and deficits reduced from the revenues that will flow into the treasury from all the foreign mfg’s doing business here in the next 10 years.

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          • JakeGint

            Don’t forget about the ocean’s stopping their rise.

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          • Frog

            Gosh if you Right Wingers, move away from the U.S. after Obama wins, you’ll leave us here with all the poor Progressives like Warren Buffett & the Gates family.

            If you yourself believe that YOU really can think, then think about this article:

            http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2012/10/29/121029taco_talk_editors

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          • JakeGint

            Howabout summarizing, if you are able?… I pall at heartfelt leftist blather.

            I enjoy logic and reason. Try it, here, without your talking point crutches.

            Can you?

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          • Frog

            As if you have ever tried logic or reason in your life.

            No, I am not wasting any more time arguing with Faux News talking point posters who have nothing substance to say, but keep telling others to post more & more responses to their Faux News talking points.

            I’m going to sleep now.

            The board is all yours to post Faux News talking points all night now. Have fun.

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            +1

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          • JakeGint

            (That’s Teahouse, giving his “thumbs up” for the meritorious “Say ‘Faux News’ twelve times… yeah, yeah, that’ll show ‘im!” argument)

            In case you were keeping score.

            😉

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          • JakeGint

            Frog, maybe if you say “Faux News” a couple of more times, people will actually believe you might have an meritorious argument that fully vets your support for this failed President.

            Or maybe not, Frog. Maybe not.

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          • JakeGint

            Never mind, I read it.

            Weak toast.. they actually credited him for Obamacare like it was a good thing. Then they had the balls to laud him for “forbidding torture” while conveniently ignoring his gross crowing about killing Bin Laden and his horrific policies of death by drone for everyone within half a mile of a “suspected terrorist.”

            No mention of the horrors of Benghazi, of course. Like the rest of the complicit media, they are mum silent about that act of dereliction which led to the death of his own Ambassador, nor of the cover-up engineered (and now falling apart) to save his electoral hopes. All that lying just to claim “Al Quadea is on the run” even as it was one big lie.

            No, the New Yorker has nothing new… they spend a good 2/3rd of the piece trying their best to paint Romney as a monster, when he’s been nothing but a decent man without an enemy in the world for his entire career.

            The truth will out, libs, and you are going to be as embarrassed as a Nixon supporter in 1975 that you ever backed this thug. When the scales fall from your eyes, and you see the lack of clothes on your Emperor… it’s gonna be a day you’ll want to spend on the sofa with a bottle of jack and half gallon of Breyer’s vanilla.

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          • Po Pimp

            crowing about killing Bin Laden and his horrific policies of death by drone for everyone within half a mile of a “suspected terrorist.”

            I thought your type liked the indiscriminate killing of brown people.

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          • Jakegint

            “My type” Po?

            How far have you sunk? Even Teahouse doens’t stoop as low as calling his fellow board members racist murderers.

            But I’m assuming you are in support of Obama’s drone-nuking?

            Because he’s “brown” perhaps, and “brown on brown” murder is ignorable by you Dems, just like in inner city Chicago?

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks

            can’t wait … why don’t you drag your sorry ass out of here now rather than waiting for the election results?

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          • Frog

            Teahouse, I hope you realize that these Right Wingers may be trying to drain us of our life force, by dragging us into back & forth arguments about their bs.

            We need to at least begin, as we did, to post the truth in response to their Faux Talking points.

            But their habit is to keep going on like this forever so that they will always have the last word & claim to have won the argument.

            So please, you go to sleep too whenever you are tired, and don’t let them drain you. Good night. Sleep well, with good dreams of Obama’s second term & the economic recovery.

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          • JakeGint

            Out where, Signore Kool-Aid?

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  15. BottleRocket

    So, if I disagree with universal healthcare, and the enslavement of those of my good friends who have gone deep into debt (not to mention dedicated 10-12 years of extra schooling) to become doctors, I’m an anti-Semite?

    Just trying to follow your … er, “logic,” here.

    I guess if I don’t like UK’s NHS, then I am also an anti-Britite?

    😉

    Please let me know what other services brought to you by your fellow humans for a fee are actually yours by “right.

    I’m just highlighting the fact that you Republicans tiptoe around Israel in all your criticisms yet it embodies every one of them. Are they socialist because they have universal healthcare?

    If the education of these doctors was covered by the state, there would be no enslavement to talk about.

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    • Jakegint

      Israel was established in 1948 as a socialist country. Recently it has been slowly backing away from that model

      We are backing into it– going in the opposite direction of much of the benighted socialist world — and that is a huge mistake, and I think a lot of smart Israeli entrprenuers will tell you that.

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      • mad_scientist

        LOL, Israel had an economic boon due to the fact that they have abandoned their socialist roots and attempted to modernize and become more capitalistic. That was a conscious effort they made to UNDO the socialist infrastructure that was put in place. It has worked. Now they are dealing with the challenges that follow when capitalism catapults certain winners into large corporations who become multinational and who then want to use their winning position to block competition (ie, a return to socialism because it benefits ME). This is what all capitalist societies have to deal with. America has large corporations like this too.

        The socialists have nothing to celebrate by looking at Israel. Israel proved once again the failure of socialism as a societal model, as the kibbutz model was completely abandoned in favor of rational thought. Many of the kibbutzim which still exist have even broken down and become moderately capitalistic (some even allowing religion in now! who could have imagined that back in the day?) and of course those who don’t still depend on the govt handouts which is one of many things which holds back the economy!

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  16. Frog

    Teahouse, I hope you realize that these Right Wingers may be trying to drain us of our life force, by dragging us into back & forth arguments about their bs.

    We need to at least begin, as we did, to post the truth in response to their Faux Talking points. But their habit is to keep going on like this forever so that they will always have the last word & claim to have won the argument.

    So please, you go to sleep too whenever you are tired, and don’t let them drain you. Good night. Sleep well, with good dreams of Obama’s second term & the economic recovery.

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  17. Frog

    My “comment is awaiting moderation.” Is Gint by any chance the moderator?

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    • fake amish

      That would be Senor Fly small pleb. Apparently you do not even understand the site you have chosen to infiltrate with your childlike horseshit. You are always good for a laugh Frog.

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  18. Frog

    Teahouse, these Right Wingers are trying to drain us of our life force, by dragging us into back & forth arguments about bs.
    We need to at least begin, as we did, to post the truth in response to their Faux Talking points. But their habit is to keep going on like this forever so that they will always have the last word & claim to have won the argument.

    So please, you go to sleep too whenever you are tired, and don’t let them drain you. Good night. Sleep well, with good dreams of Obama’s second term & the economic recovery.

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  19. Frog

    Okay, 4th try.

    Teahouse, these Right Wingers are trying to drain us of our life force, by dragging us into back & forth arguments about bs.

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    • mad_scientist

      LOL, that star wars “life force” bs was so appealing to you that you just couldn’t bear the thought of it not showing up on the site?

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  20. Frog

    We need to at least begin, as we did, to post the truth in response to their Faux Talking points. But their habit is to keep going on like this forever so that they will always have the last word & claim to have won the argument.

    So please, you go to sleep too whenever you are tired, and don’t let them drain you. Good night. Sleep well, with good dreams of Obama’s second term & the economic recovery.

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  21. Frog

    We need to at least begin, as we did, to post the truth in response to their Faux Talking points. But their habit is to keep going on like this forever so that they will always have the last word & claim to have won the argument.

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  22. Frog

    Please, you go to sleep too whenever you are tired, and don’t let them drain you. Good night. Sleep well, with good dreams of Obama’s second term & the economic recovery

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  23. fake amish

    The euro is getting rolled.

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  24. MX2101

    I see things have been nice and quiet in here while I was sleeping.

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  25. Donkey Arbitrageur
    Donkey Arbitrageur

    There are many comments on this website page. I am simply looking for some sipping chocolate.

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  26. JTU

    ANR-Up 5% premarket after missing estimates! You got lucky!

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  27. JTU

    Looks like Romney is finished based on employment numbers!

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    • riggedgame

      Romney was done months ago, based on his slimy lies, flip-flops, total lack of character, honesty and leadership skills.

      Americans don’t want a shit-slimed tax evader, with zero principles, Cayman Island secret bank accounts, and six grandmothers as a President.

      Notice I didn’t say THEIR President.

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  28. Mike89Smith

    JTU- Missing estimates? No. While I fail to understand why people invest in a company that is losing money, if you lose less money than you were supposed to your stock could rise 8-10%.

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  29. Odumbo

    Fuck Odumbo!!!

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  30. Smokestack

    Spoiler alert: Obama wins.

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  31. JTU

    DECK-8:24 AM Jefferies picks up coverage again on Deckers Outdoor (DECK) with a bottom-dipping Buy rating. The take from the firm is that performance of the Ugg brand will improve again and drive shares up to $50, from their current sub-$30 level. For the Jefferies story to play out, Deckers Outdoor will need some help from Mother Nature after last winter’s mild temperatures dulled demand for Ugg boots.

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  32. JTU

    DDD-makes new all time highs! Shorts are getting gored!!!

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  33. JTU

    GNRC hits new all time high!

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  34. Angry Bird

    Benghazi did it for me. I can’t imagine the families who lost wondering why nobody acted, and even after the incident, nobody showed up on scene (FBI) until 2 weeks later.

    Obama has done a lot (see the link Tea posted way above) but he’s weak and dangerous on foreign policy.

    I don’t know if Romney is better but I’m open to giving somebody else a shot.

    For as many regulations as Obama has imposed on Wall St, nothing has changed. It’s still the most manipulated casino.

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  35. longview

    I am a new to IBC and appreciate the discussion of stocks, the markets and the economy.

    Can anyone tell me based on 2008, does all this spit-flecked, partisan political hyperventilation die down after the election, or thereafter does one side just go on moaning about how all is lost?

    Maybe the safest course is to stick to reading the blogs and ignore the comments sections alogether?

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    • synack

      goldbugs gonna bug. It’s constant.

      Did you just get back from reading the zerohedge comments section or something?

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    • DMG

      ‘New to ibc’
      Yogi trying to establish a new id?

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      • longview

        I am guessing Yogi is someone that was banned? No I came to this site mid-2012 after Josh Brown wrote nice things about Mr Fly.

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  36. Mogulhound

    Slowly becoming unstupid ANR down to 25% of measly $27K port. Real unemp 14%, 2yr super congress & 0 budget, 6T new debt, 2x gas $, Pres budget in 2012 0 votes, 23m food stamps, just some numbers 4 thought

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  37. mad_scientist

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/161660

    American voters who reside in Israel explain why they voted for Romney in the U.S. presidential elections.

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