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Obama the Zero

It’s all over folks. We can bounce off oversold levels; but it’s all over. Recession is all but a foregone conclusion. You should expect to hear a lot from “The Great Roubini” in the coming and weeks and months, warning you about “no more policy rabbits”—whatever the fuck that means.

The numbers all add up and you need to be honest with yourself. Obama is a zero, just like today’s jobs report. We are in the midst of a severe tailspin and our only hope is President Romney. However, before we can price that in, we need to price this in. Earnings estimates need to come down, a lot. Naturally, THE BEARDED CLAM will interfere in this fair fight and throw cocaine laden nuclear bombs at the bears. I don’t even know how to respond to that, other than contemplate taking up the hobby of puzzles. What I do know is the market will most likely be much lower than it is today, 6 months from now.

Over the weekend, I will be building a short sale list, to be posted inside The PPT first. I am not an overzealous person and understand the rubberband effect. Meaning: we can bounce from these levels. I just need to get my ducks in order, prepare for the inevitable whoosh lower.

If you got caught long today, do not be stubborn about your position. You may very well get a rally soon, based upon the notion that Helicopter Ben will toss bricks of cocaine out of his, ummm, helicopter. But remember, we rallied in 2009-2010 when the economy was growing. I am not so sure how QE3 will mesh with negative GDP numbers.

The math is simple: reduce 2012 eps projections of $94 to $70, slap a 13X multiple on it and voila: you have your real market bottom right there.

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67 comments

  1. Yogi and Boo Boo

    Don’t forget Solis the naught.

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  2. Blind Read Ant

    Shorting gold.

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    • go2mars

      Yikes!

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    • Great Uwashed

      In that statement I hear the echo of someone shorting SPY back in Sept. 2010.

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      • Blind Read Ant

        In the pre-HFT days, agreud, but unlesss your heard, SEC Schapiro commenced subpoenas on many algo-firms.

        I’m becoming more contrarian by the day. If there’s a gap today, absent much corroboration, I say short. Algos torture-machine are polor-parobolic (noone discusses this).

        Double top on PM formed (silver diff. story). Thanks. Fuck. And Short OTM 165 puts (Nov. expy. when market magically returns).

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  3. Yogi and Boo Boo

    @Fly, still on with the $WNR and $GSVC thesis, or those going out the window?

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    • The Fly

      still with them

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      • Yogi and Boo Boo

        Thanks.

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      • logicalthought

        If you’re right here (and you definitely may be, although $70 in SPX earnings sounds too low to me– low $80s sounds more realistic– there’s no reason to stay with GSVC… I mean, do you really think that those bubble-priced companies will be able to IPO at prices higher than their last private rounds in the environment that you’re projecting?

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        • The Fly

          You are right. But I can be wrong, no?

          In the big scheme of things, my GSVC position is a hedge.

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          • logicalthought

            Yes, agreed. It’s why I’m just about as bearish as you are but am mostly in cash rather than short. It just seems to me that GSVC is a bet on a bubble and a hedge against being wrong about a bear market might be something less extreme than that– I don’t know, maybe INTC or something similar that can grow in a mediocre economy and doesn’t require a bubble for you to make money, as it’s unlikely that if you’re wrong about “a bear” we’ll instead wind up with “a boom.”

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  4. Blind Read Ant

    Gini the Roubini, that guys funny. Like Hollywood, his wife placed him in his jobs.

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  5. halfbloodpope

    Is Horatio Clawhammer going to make an appearance?

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    • Aristotle

      the Fly is freshening up his burlap pancho and black sombrero for Horatio’s return.

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  6. chivo

    i also will be much more ready to short/hedge

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  7. Gazer

    Wow!

    The economy was roaring perfect when this guy took office and now look at it!

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    • Aristotle

      no shit, bring back the W.

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      • The Fly

        W was a fucking idiot monkey.

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        • Mr. Cain Thaler

          Turkey just expelled Israel’s ambassador.

          Had they tried this shit under “the W” he would have gone crusader on them, liberating Istanbul and renaming it Constantinople.

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          • Blind Read Ant

            Tell W he was a Monkey when he tore a hole into oil rich countries. Who, at Costco (or Whole Foods), was complaining about economy when we got what we needed. Operation Iraqi Liberation.

            I think a man with a plan to deliver is better than the apologist in office. More NFL or NBA anyone?

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          • JakeGint

            Obummer wanted us to be “just another country” and it looks like he’s succeeding.

            As good as that sounds on paper, I don’t think “the other countries” who live under our aegis of protection are going to be digging that too much.

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          • JakeGint

            In that regard, Shelby Steele wrote an absolutely devastating column yesterday: Obama and the Burden of Exceptionalism.

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          • Mark

            Had they tried this shit under W, somebody would have first had to explain to him where Turkey was on the map.

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        • Colonel von Ryan

          One thing about Bush, he always did what he said he was going to do. No surprises, no lying, no equivocation.

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    • Mad_Scientist

      “This comment was authored by a community organizer”

      Next stop, White House.

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  8. Gromalomus

    Mitt Romney doesn’t know anything about anything. What a kook. Obama doesn’t understand business that’s for sure but Mitt doesn’t know how to tie his own shoes.

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    • The Fly

      Mitt would punch you in the face for saying that.

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      • Blind Read Ant

        When Mitt wins 2012, Fly should take Directorate post in the Fed or Treasury (as a matter of patriotism mind you), mint gold IBC coins.

        Yes.

        Naturally, I would need to fill one of the many Czar positions and make love to the camera Genie Roubini style. Cadence, sweat, arm chair posture, long vowel pronunciations.

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    • j

      Yea right. He of course never ran Bain and Co and took to degrees from “Hardvard” simultaneously without the help of affirmative action.

      Yep, Romney is a fake like O.

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      • JakeGint

        Eggsactly. He may have had a leg up at Hahvad from his Governor Paps, but everything else — the Bain stuff especially — was all him.

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    • JakeGint

      Grom — seriously, are you kidding?

      The guy was lead partner at Bain & Co. — one of the most well respected management consulting companies in the world BEFORE starting Bain Capital, which is now one of the ten largest Private Equity firms in the world.

      He saved the Utah Winter Olympics from bankruptcy and had it turning a profit inside of 12 months, and he was an “outsider” governor of one of the most liberal states in the union.

      I don’t think his competence is in question.

      Only his commitment to small government and free enterprise.

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  9. jimmy_two_times

    arent mkt bottoms ususally associated with lower PEs?

    just asking …. heard 8x from some.

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  10. The Fly

    But the kicker is 13x REDUCED estimates. The PE of 900 S&P with current eps estimates gives you a much lower PE multiple.

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  11. ruggyup

    Wise man, Baron Rothschild said in 1815, “The time to buy is when there is blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own”. Still true, with Ozero leading the retreat.

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    • go2mars

      He meant real blood. As in when he bought the british stock market after it declined 98%.

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      • ruggyup

        You are not going to believe this but, I know what he meant.

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        • Blind Read Ant

          What US cities Ruggy for “real blood?”

          Chicago in the 60’s and LA in the 90’s. My tops are NYC, Phili, Las Vegas, followed by a tier-2 Richmond/Atlanta score card (notice nothing in the heartland).

          Rice and beans both thaw in water after 5 hours. I have a couple brita water filters with numerous, plentful filters for change-out.

          When the riots begin, have a plan to vacate and head for the hills. Point noted.

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          • halfbloodpope

            I have already left L. Island for North of Albany and currently digging a moat.

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  12. JakeGint

    I was trying to get this up last night, and I’m still having trouble with the chart, but I will amend that later.

    In the meantime, it’s best to remember that when it comes to banks, There is no Bernank, only Zuul!

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  13. the man

    Fly, are you still holding TBT?

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  14. Ruben the Cuban

    At this point, I’m not sure that Ben throwing bricks of cocaine out of that chopper will be any different than bricks of C-4. The numbers just continue to tell us “F-You”.

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  15. DJMarcus

    Obama the Conqueror >> Obama the Zero. IMHO

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  16. Bullish

    In this jobs market, if you don’t know how to program social media sites or create Google algos… You’re Screwed!

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    • Yogi and Boo Boo

      If you don’t have a PhD in math or CS , you’re probably not going to be recruited by $GOOG.

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  17. pedro

    Fly,

    Even if we’re on the verge of what’s technically defined as a “Recession,” how much does it really change things? Especially if the Bernank helicopters in, does a slightly negative GDP print really merit massive earning estimate cuts?

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  18. Raise taxes, Cut spending
    Raise taxes, Cut spending

    Still waiting for all those wealthy people and profitable corporations to whom the government gave trillions of borrowed dollars to create jobs, to actually go out and do that.

    Oh wait, they pissed it all away on derivatives and housing.

    The real reason everything is heading lower is because the Republicans are the architects of the biggest financial mess the US has ever seen, and with their power in congress, they are intent on continuing their extreme stupidity.

    I admit that Obama has been ineffectual in dealing with those morons, but that doesn’t make him wrong or them right.

    The economist who dreamed up the concept of supply side economics should have his nuts stapled to a 2X6.

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    • alf44

      “nuts stapled to a 2X6”

      That’s some seriously vivid imagery !

      Ouch !!!

      .

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    • Mad_Scientist

      So you mean Obama’s only responsibility as president was “dealing with those morons” who are no longer around and preceded his administration? What kind of job is that?

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  19. norcal

    From a gov’t headed by Obama to a dude named Mitt? That’s an improvement? LOL!!

    What kind of parent names their kid Mitt?

    Actually, Mitt is his middle name…maybe he’s too embarrassed to go by his first name…WILLARD.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f6/Willard_1971.jpg

    “Willard is a meek social misfit with a strange affinity for rats. He lives in a large mansion, accompanied only by his cranky and decrepit mother…..”

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    • Mad_Scientist

      How is name relevant?

      I personally like the name Willard; it’s very presidential sounding, in fact.

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  20. Ron Paul is back

    Ur wrong FLY and this post will go un-remembered once u start going long and stocks are higher.

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  21. discoordinated

    I think this day feels like one that could be down 500 by the time we are finished.

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  22. Apocalypse Now

    We might have a call opportunity brewing.

    We all know the market is manipulated for confidence support to avoid animal spirits and the herd from running over the cliff. I can not believe that the PPT would not levitate this into the 3-day weekend. If they don’t it shows ridiculously poor planning on POMO timing. Other than the month end levitation window dressing, the most important real world issue is the real demand economy.

    How many Memorial day weekend car sales are going to happen when Friday comes and people looking to purchase check out how far they are down on their investments? They think, maybe I’ll delay that car purchase until I feel more confident about the economy.

    It’s possible shorts will cover before they decide to take the afternoon off for the holiday, and that could make it low volume and easy to lift the market.

    Gold and TLT say M.E. tensions are high.

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    • Mad_Scientist

      When you write PPT, do you refer to this site’s algorithm or some outside organization?

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  23. heaterman

    Meh……I’m thinking more along the lines of $62-65…. Low 800 range

    We’ll see soon we shall….
    from the department of redundancy department

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  24. jj

    Herbert Hoover never looked so good

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  25. yungtrader

    you are the best trader/blogger in the history of the internet

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