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Wake Up and Smell the Obamanomics

Okay, I am going out on a limb here, at the risk of upsetting my emotional friend, Senator Gint. Aside from Romney, the current roster of republican candidates are UNELECTABLE. More so, if Mitt is NOT nominated, or HERMAN CO-CAINE, I will be voting for Prezident O’bama again.

Ask me why, I fucking dare you.

First of all, Bachmann is an idiot on a wide array of issues. Do I really need to delve into detail, seriously? Rick Perry is a bible toting simpleton, who will endorse BIG fucking oil, as if that shit was oxygen. Plus anyway, didn’t he run Al Gore’s Texas campaign many moons ago? I say NO to RINOS every time. And, let’s not ignore his asinine comments on the beloved BEARDED CLAM. Take issue with me on this, I don’t give a fuck. I will NOT vote for anyone who is hating on the Fed. For the love of half bibles and abandoned churches, the Fed is all we have here on Wall Street. Fuck these politicians.

I would LOVE to say President Co-caine, over and over again. Herman is a mathematician and majored in Physics. He is like Obama, but only smarter and knows shit about life, and business. He wants to eliminate cap gains. Okay, maybe that didn’t hit you right away, so I’ll say it again. He wants to put capital gains taxes at ZERO percent, FOREVER. And, to boot, he wants to lower income tax to 25%, again permanently. Sadly, the media treats him like he is the former owner of a fucking chicken restaurant.

Santorum wants to arrest women who abort babies conceived by way of rape, as does Bachman. These fuckers don’t recognize that DNA can be transferred from one person to the next, because, well, God makes everyone, right? These fucking religious zealots are insane.

Lastly, there is Mitt. He is our final hope. However, the fucking hillbillies don’t like him because he’s a mormon and likes to keep 4-5 wives around, doing the dishes, baking him banana bread.

Just like last election, I will vote against the republicans for fielding such a stupid roster. They do not deserve to win. Obama is the worst President since Bush II and he will win thanks to the pathetic state of the GOP.

Out with business minded people, in with the fucking bible teachers.

Fuck off.

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269 comments

  1. Steve Place

    On his vacation, The Fly enjoys lounging beach side, sipping on a tropical alcoholic beverage, throwing rocks at monstrous wasp nests.

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  2. firstadopter

    What about Michael Bloomberg!

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  3. Johnny2time

    Obama 2012, change we can believe in!

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  4. FIG

    And what about Ron Paul? Yes, he wants to do away with the Fed, but what about his other ideas?

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  5. Bond Troll

    Spoken as a true American, Fly.

    The Tea Baggers will bag the country if we let them have a chance. Osama would be smiling down on them.

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  6. dishobgyn

    I am voting for ron paul
    he is also a vag man

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    • JakeGint

      Who isn’t?

      I know, I know…

      Michael Bloomberg…

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    • Banker Banger

      So interesting that all the major blog owners that get traffic are anti-Paul and pro-central banker, despite that central bankers make Hitler look like a girl scout.

      Anyone who knows their history and has a glimmer of human compassion will be against unelected central banker control.

      Elected — as in real unmanipulated voting and lack of manpulated public perception — central bankers I am fine with. As long as we hang the existing ones and replace them, first.

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  7. Cheese

    I can see it now……ballot readers scratching their heads asking, “Who is……. The Fly?”

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  8. thewife

    Sad but true. I agree completely. There must be a better option.

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  9. Falcontrader

    I rate Caine above Romney. I had Mitt as a Governor and he was pretty RINO too with the healthplan BS. Point being he will roll to pressure for a vote…”>

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    • JakeGint

      Of course Mitt is a total Northeastern Republican RINO.

      This is why the brain-washed Monsier Le Doctuer finds him acceptable. He’s a smidge better than McCain, politically, but way smarter and a good businessman.

      I would hold my nose and vote for him, despite Obomneycare, (a feature, not a bug for Le Monsieur).

      Perry is head and shoulders the only one who will survive the nomination, however.

      So solly.

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      • franky

        fwiw: Perry 2012:
        “But where’s the net gain? If those voters aren’t united next November, we’re having this friendly little conversation for nothing anyway, because Obama will be re-elected in a landslide no matter who runs against him. “Not Obama” will be their candidate of choice, whether the alternative is Perry or somebody else.

        Texas, as the story goes, has led the nation in job creation, and as the story continues, it’s because Texas government is limited, pro-business and fosters economic development. While it’s true that Texas has, indeed, created new jobs, it’s equally true that they’re relatively low-wage and that the state’s recent unemployment rates are also higher than they’ve been since the early 1990s.”

        Full article: http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2012-presidential-election/guest-column-why-perry-shouldnt-run-president/

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  10. GravestoneDoji

    Ron Paul…the 13th floor of the GOP, and the only one with a functioning brain cell not devoted to basic life support functions…

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012—corn-polled-edition—ron-paul—the-top-tier

    RP won’t be nominated/elected…so I have to eventually support whomever will Ponzi up the Markets the mostest.

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  11. ruggyup

    I always knew you were sick but, now I know you are seriously misguided or, one of the most prominent ball busters of all time.

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    • JakeGint

      Of course he is busting balls.

      It’s because he knows I have “you voted for Barack Obama (hahahahahahahaah!!)” on him FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE.

      And he’s pretty young. 😉

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      • franky

        i hate to state the obvious, but are you kidding me? did you really vote on a ticket that included palin?!!!!

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        • TeahouseOnTheTracks
          TeahouseOnTheTracks

          and Proud he did … Old/Senile and Young/Ignorant … what a ticket!

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          • JakeGint

            Better than recalcitrant socialist and clueless — as the record will show.

            I saw a big magnetic bumper sticker this past Spring… shit must’ve been 2′ x 2′ if it was an inch.

            It said “Did you vote for Obama? THANKS A LOT, ASSHOLE!”

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  12. a smart person

    ELECT DEVILDOG!

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  13. checklist

    nice write up.

    the most important thing to any society is probably, guessing here, its economic situation. better economy, happier people, guessing.

    co-caine sounds like a perfect candidate. perfect. he doesn’nt have a chance. people are pissed off right now because the economy is in the toilet, so they are looking for people to be angry at. So they blame the government spending a few extra trillion a year for the economy being bad, as if somehow more money getting spent into the economy is going to hurt it.

    Its not the housing bubble, not the tech bubble, not the post-lehman crisis or even the europeans being a pack of complete butt nuggets, but the desire of the american people, in their anger (probably generally over a bad economy) for revenge. They seem bent on getting that revenge on… themselves, by making the problem worse.

    Its a fairly amazing circus to behold.

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    • checklist

      and, yes, obama and bush II were a couple of remarkably bad presidents back to back.

      but this whole bad economy and crisis began earlier, in the clinton days, when, for the 7th time in american history that the government ran a meaningful budget surplus. The first 6 led to our 6 economic depressions. We are in the aftermath of the 7th…

      So I have an idea. If 7 times in a row someting turned out really, really bad, there is absolutley no reason to not go for an 8th try.

      Each time the cycle has been the same. BY ACCOUNTING FACT, not theory, the ability of US citizens to save in dollars or equivalents is equal to the gov’t deficit less the trade deficit, if any. When private capacity to save goes negative, citizens tend to take on debt to maintain their standard of living, which then leads to an implosion when the debt becomes excessive. Seem familiar?

      But, anyway, lets go run a huge government surplus for like the next 20 years, reduce the debt to zero, like Senator Ryan suggested, because I’m sure the 8th time is the charm… not.

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      • Dr Fly

        Right, we must balance the fucking budget like a household. That’s what these idiots keep saying, as if managing a checkbook is the same as a 15 trillion dollar economy.

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        • Indie

          They all went to the Ross Perot school of clowns.

          “… Look under the hood and fix what ain’t working..”

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        • go2mars

          War mongering aside, how does the analogy break down?

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        • Stack

          With respect, a little bit of a different view. Keep in mind, I’m completely agnostic from a political view in saying this. In 1993, we ran a deficit of $300 billion and the DOW touched about 3700. Over the next 7 years, that was reduced and a surplus was built in 2000. Through that time, the DOW steadily rose and hit 11,500. In 2003, the surplus was wiped out and we went to -378 billion. DOW then hit a low of 8k and didn’t break above 10,500 that year. In 2007, the defecit was the lowest since 2002 and that’s when the DOW was at all time highs. Since then, the defecit has only increased and we haven’t been able to get back to 2007 highs.

          Certainly not suggesting that there aren’t other forces in play, but perhaps it does suggest the market likes when our checkbook isn’t completely unblanced and we somewhat have our fiscal shit together. Not that we have to run a surplus, but perhaps it’s the difference between controlled spending and out of control spending.

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          • ottnott

            Deficit is a function of both spending and revenues.

            When the economy is bad:
            –revenues decline
            –counter-cyclical spending (unemployment insurance, Medicaid, etc.) increases
            –stock prices decline

            Deficits don’t automatically cause lower stock prices, especially when deficits result from the gov’t flooding the financial system with liquidity.

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        • JakeGint

          No, you’re right. Let’s absorb a $70 trillion liability into a $15 trillion annual GDP while our population ages and gets increasingly less skilled in tandem.

          Speaking of historical precedents, the Brits did it about 60 years ago… how’s that worked out for them since?

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          • checklist

            none of this is anything that can’t be managed. The US Government cannot be revenue constrained, cannot run out of ability to meet liabilities in dollars, inflation is the only possible involuntary consequence.

            but lets be serious, we don’t really have much inflation right now do we? Agricultural commodities have been affected by growth in EM’s, a series of weather incidents, and record, epic, rampant speculation. Ditto oil, etc. China’s building boom isn’t keeping any prices down.

            housing? down. cars? sure aren’t up. bar tabs? not up. clothes? not up that i’ve noticed. My lawnmower was pretty cheap. restaurant prices don’t seem to be soaring.

            right now deficit spending by congress could reduce unemployment, call into use some of the enormous spare capacity in the economy (raising tax revenue and reducing costs like unemployment payments). has anybody actually calculated the actual cost to the gov’t of, say, reasonably focused infrastructure oriented stimulus? Is it even a cost? After NOT paying 100 people unemployment, getting tax revenue from those same people, from the concrete company, from the contractor. Whats it actually cost?

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks
            TeahouseOnTheTracks

            The GOP will block any jobs programs so they can recapture the WH … you’d think they’d let the Dems keep it with this shit storm … shows ya how clever they are, eh?

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          • checklist

            agree. and I am embarassed and hurt by their actions. I have never voted for a dem in my entire life, but to see the repubs willing to hurt an entire country (and planet by extension) just to get in the WH is unforgivable.

            I just want an end to this miserable period in world history so that humanity can get back to life and progress.

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          • JakeGint

            You, sir, are as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.

            What “jobs programs” have the GOP denied? The last “stimulus” went straight down the shitter to keep useless public employees in place while more efficient private sector skinnied down.

            Shit, even Teanutz knows they just BK’d a “green jobs” initiative in his own state. $500 million, down the shitter.

            He’ll probably blame that on the BogeyGOP too. Couldn’t lay that one at the Messiah’s feet… nooooo. Just plain ole “bad luck.”

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks
            TeahouseOnTheTracks

            the problem was the state didn’t provide any protection from cheap imports … commies but we support free trade …. ROFLMAO!

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          • JakeGint

            The problem was gummint supported boondoggles cannot survive in a free market environment without constant subsidy.

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          • TeahouseOnTheTracks
            TeahouseOnTheTracks

            It’s not a question of what programs … congress will not let one get to the floor under their “new austerity” mantra … the dems know that and the only way to win that battle is to attach it to the coming spending cuts … quid pro quo or no deal … time for Obama to play hardball or go home in 2012.

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          • JakeGint

            It’s ridiculous… gov’t CANNOT CREATE JOBS. Get gov’t out of the way and watch how the economy recovers without the help of one single bureaucrat.

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          • checklist

            I think teahouse said they “would” not that they “did”. Don’t see how I can be full of shit in that statement. I have never voted for a live, jake. But that doesn’t mean austerity isn’t utterly asinine….

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          • JakeGint

            Austerity is not even on the table. That said, there are TONNES of bullshit bureucrats that could be cut out of the gobmint that would be a NET GAIN to the private economy.

            Take a look at this example of bureaucratic and regulatory overreach and the drag on the economy it creates, for instance.

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          • RocketScientist

            Stop talking sense now. You are just wasting your time since the braindead Tea Party zombies are incapable of comprehending anything that comes even remotely close to rational economic policy.

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          • The Fly

            Gilts are at 2%.

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          • checklist

            their stock returns haven’t been any worse than ours over that time either, or so I have read.

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          • checklist

            and don’t forget they got completely mutilated in WW2 fighting, adding a variable.

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          • JakeGint

            So did Japan. Way way worse.

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  14. Cloris Leechman

    And let’s not forget that one of Perry’s main men is that prince of idiots, Douglas Feith. http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2011/08/rick-perrys-advisors.html
    Yes, let’s bring back the neo-cons, they’ll fix everything!

    At this rate you won’t even get the chance to vote for any of the GOP Insane Clown Posse (#GOPICP). They’re all blowing themselves up within two months of entering the race. Except Ron Paul of course, who can’t so much as get the right-wing journos to say his name, even after coming in a close second to Bachmann in the Iowa straw poll. http://t.co/er6HHhy Yeesh.

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    • Treepart

      General Tommy Franks called Feith “the dumbest fucking guy on the planet.”

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  15. Treepart

    Uh-Oh Fly called Bachman an idiot. I got flamed out on Gint’s blackboard 2 days ago for calling her retarded.

    Be prepared to defend yourself Broker A!

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    • Dr Fly

      Jake is a great guy, but woefully complacent with the GOP. I’m not a party man. I’d rather kill these people off, so their DNA isn’t passed on.

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      • JakeGint

        You’d rather obfuscate your misguided support for Obama in 2008.

        It’s okay. It’s the People Magazine miasma of Neuva York…. it’s…. occluding.

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  16. OptionTactician

    Man, every time I read a blog from The Fly my stomach starts to hurt laughing my ass off.

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  17. ruggyup

    Perry, crude, Romney, too pretty and sweet, Paul great obfuscator and third party candidate, Cain a great VP. Bachman bullshit, Ryan a serious possibility, as in very serious, demeanor, original ideas, commitment to principal, presence, articulate, Obama? Give me a fucking social networking, addicted to the “I” word break. “I”, “my”, the words of a disturbed narcissist.

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  18. DRAXWIN

    WOW. OBAMA AGAIN? (and I really liked/like your blogs, new viewer out of Houston,TX which you will bag on me for.WNR) I’D RATHER PUT A BULLET IN MY HEAD. THIS COUNTRY REALLY IS FUCKED. IM SELLING TOMORROW AND WILL BUY AGAIN IN 2016 AS MY PILE OF CASH GEOMETRICALLY ACCUMULATES IN MY BANK ACCOUNT as bulk of business I am in is trading energy futures. We can not afford obama any longer. “The Fly” being out of nyc, which is basically like cali as far as political postion, I understand, but that’s not typical of a wallstreeter). Really? I loath rick perry, romney annhhh….he ok. but obama is a fucking disease, he is like the black plauge. we need real leadership in charge. I agree the slate of republican candidates suck cock. Just gotta ask yourself if you will eat the cat shit(religious freaks), or not for sound fiscal responsibility either the morman or whatever the fuck perry is.

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    • The Fly

      Again, you people need to fucking read what I wrote. I said, I would vote for O if Romney isn’t nominated. In real terms, that means I’d vote for Romney in an election versus Obama.

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      • DRAXWIN

        I’d vote for perry over obama. I think my brain is/ just had an aneurysm while I typed I’d vote for perry. that is how much I want obama out of there. Maybe we can get romney and a cool VP, and send obama to kenya?

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        • The Fly

          I refuse to vote for anyone who is hating on Bernanke.

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          • go2mars

            I just don’t get it. Nominal gains in the stock market from clambux = the exacerbated destruction of the middle class (though paced slowly). I like my kids too much to entrust them to Ben’s destructive machination.

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          • JakeGint

            Pay not attention.

            He’s busting your balls, and doubling down on the biggest disaster to hit the Oval Office since Woodrow Wilson.

            And yes, I chose WW because he was worse than FDR, if you can believe it.

            I have a small poodle-schnauzer mix with an unvarying interest in her own anal glands that I’d promote for President over Obama. There is no one — or thing — that could be worse in office for another four years.

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          • Banker Banger

            What’s so utterly laughable is the inability of grown men to do research on their own, to own their own knowledge to the extent that they realize all the candidates will once again be central banker bitches except for Paul.

            Grown men who rely on the mainstream news media for their information are little pussy mental faggots, IMO.

            Fucking grow up already.

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          • The Fly

            BANNED for fucking with Central Banks. They are awesome.

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    • ri ck

      Who is worse, Obama dumb fuck,or the devil doggie bitch?

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      • go2mars

        Obama. By miles. Devil Dog was/is hilarious! When was the last time Obama gave you an untainted belly-laugh? Obama may tell jokes, but they always feel like a minor chord.

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  19. Hugh Hendry

    Only dude who gets me doing the Hugh is ol’ Ronny Paul. Except the media has very skillfully conditioned people into believing he’s unelectable. Very much like manufactured consent, sheep believe what sheep are told.

    Jon Stewart nails it:
    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012—corn-polled-edition—ron-paul—the-top-tier

    fuck the Republicans (except Ron Paul). And fuck the Democrats.

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    • JakeGint

      RP is 76.

      Get his son to run and I’m in. RP is unelectable for a number of reasons, but the biggest is our ageist, yuppie asshole press.

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      • Banker Banger

        Romney. Now THERE’S some unelectable garbage.

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      • Hugh Hendry

        Ron Paul is fitter than most 30 year olds. I’ve met the guy. He is a lot more youthful than his age suggests. Whether he’s electable or not I don’t give a shit. We live in a country of lemmings walking toward a cliff. All I care about is there’s someone out there willing to point out the imminent death plunge so that those of us who aren’t fucking lemmings don’t march to our death like the rest of the fucktards that inhabit this country and who believe that voting for O’bama is anything but a demonstration of mental retardation.

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  20. Flux Capacitor

    Fuck Romney and the rest of them.

    Ron Paul 2012.

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  21. DRAXWIN

    I LOVE RON PAUL, BUT DOESN’T LOOK LIKE HE WILL GET A NOMINATION . AND HE A LOOSE CANNON SO PROBABLY BE A BAD CHOICE TO ELECT HIM, OR GOOD CHOICE , LOOSE CANNONS ARE SOMETIMES GOOD LOL.

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    • The Fly

      He wants to abolish the Fed. Good luck with your trading career when that happens.

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      • Hugh Hendry

        My history may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure people made (and lost money) in the century when America didn’t have a central bank. In fact, I believe that was the same century when America went from a poor farming outpost to the most prosperous nation on earth. Call me crazy, but I don’t think we don’t need Soviet Style central planning of the money supply by a bunch of boobs who have been wrong about every single prediction they’ve ever made. But again, caveat emptor, I’m crazy.

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        • go2mars

          ” I don’t think we don’t need Soviet Style central planning of the money supply by a bunch of boobs who have been wrong about every single prediction they’ve ever made.”

          EXACTLY! And you pay those boobs shitloads to screw you. The same guys who own your centra bank own essentially the rest of them too. So about 34% of interest portion of every US tax dollar (more actually), goes toward some fucking guys who have a monopoly on the creatio of money.

          Ever ask yourself why you can’t buy shares in a privately owned centra bank? Or start your own?

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        • arizonaborderguard
          arizonaborderguard

          HH you are exactly right. Fly has this one wrong.

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        • The Fly

          Kidding right?

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      • DRAXWIN

        I guess you can’t read either (just busting ur balls), but I said he will not get the nomination. I just kinda think he is a cool dude. thats all. NO HOMO

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      • Banker Banger

        Bullshit. Short the market. Never heard of it?

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  22. Dishobgyn

    If you like ron paul givethis a thumbs up

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  23. The Fly

    Ignorant people of the internet

    KGB Ron isn’t getting nominated. He’s a fucking secret KGB spy anyway. Why would anyone vote for Ron Paul???
    That’s fucking hysterical. It’s like killing yourself for having a headache.

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    • GravestoneDoji

      The rest of them are the shit of the earth. Literally.

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      • Banker Banger

        The rest of them are a bright red shit stain in Satan’s loose-fitting underwear. You have to really wonder at grown men who can’t perform basic research enough to realize this.

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    • Dishobgyn

      The rest of them are such morons, worse than anencephalic baby

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    • silentmax

      ron paul will abolish the fed, plunge the american economy into certain chaos. cause a civil war and kill millions of americans. then after thats all over america finaly has a sound fiscal policy and growth in the future
      so heres the thing. yes its good for america in the future. but at what cost now?

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  24. South of the Mason-Dixon
    South of the Mason-Dixon

    It is true that the current crop of candidates is not ideal. However I will say as far as Perry goes, he stated:

    “I promise I will work everyday to make Washington DC as inconsequential in your lives as I can.”

    That is a helluva campaign slogan. I like it.

    I’ve always liked Cain. Great man. He just can’t win. Nor can Paul. Nor can Santorum. That said, I always vacillated on the rape/abortion issue. His explanation made sense to me. Bachmann should stay in the House or run for the Senate.

    Rasmussen’s recent poll of likely GOP voters showed that Perry was ahead by 29% and 18% was not sure. That indicates that nearly half the likely GOP voters want something different than what they are being provided. Perry has only been in the race 3 days and has garnered attention.

    There is still room for someone of substance like Paul Ryan entering the race. He can articulate the fiscal message like none other. He might be a player.

    An ideal ticket would be Marco Rubio/Paul Ryan. If Obama wins in 2012 count on it for 2016.

    Four more years of Obama would be disastrous for this country. His regulations and policies are choking this country. Anyone will be better than him. If you want a four year repeat of the last four years, with a final farewell slash and burn of capitalism, freedom and liberty, then by all means Obama is your man.

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    • Flux Capacitor

      Bullshit.

      That “obama will be so much worse” line got me to vote for McAssbag last time around. The GOP won’t fool me again.

      And Perry is a Bilderberger. Fuck him.

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    • The Fly

      How does one fucking vacillate on the rape-abortion thing? Fuck you for suggesting a woman should give birth to a baby that was conceived via a rape.

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      • DRAXWIN

        that’s part of eating the “cat shit” deal……they wouldn’t get anything accompished with abortion laws, their focus would be on fixing this pento we call a cadillac

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        • The Fly

          I am sick of these dicks pandering to people who believe Earth was created 6k years ago.

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          • The Fly

            Sometimes I feel like capturing these people and sending them back in time, via my time machine, to feed them to dinosaurs, as proof the Earth is older than 6k years.

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          • Banker Banger

            Science is just another religion. All your beliefs are your religions. This is core occult knowledge. Read up sometime. One dimensional minds are boring.

            All realities are feasible given the observor believes in them 100%. Welcome to shamanism, boy.

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          • The Fly

            WOW. Now you are really banned for suggesting SCIENCE is a religion.

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          • Banker Banger

            Quantum physics has already shown that I am correct on this point.

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          • Steak

            Thank you. This is the most hysterical thing I’ve ever come across on the internet.

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      • go2mars

        It’s a stacked deck. You think that law would actually pass? Where’s Donald Duck? I mean Trump?

        Edward Bernays is laughing out loud in his grave. Or crying.

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      • South of the Mason-Dixon
        South of the Mason-Dixon

        The baby is a life. It was not it’s fault that it was conceived by rape. Take one heinous act and compound it with another. Awesome. Takes more courage and compassion to give birth than it does to throw it away. It’s astonishing how little our society values life. I decided I didn’t want to be part of that herd. I can see no moral grounds to killing an innocent (emphasis on innocent) life…just because it’s inconvenient to give birth. I reject that liberal bullshit thinking.

        Like I said, if you want four more years of Obama, no matter who is represented by the other party, then pull the blue lever.

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        • The Fly

          Then why kill Hitler?

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          • The Fly

            In case you answer that with “babies are not Hitler,” I counter with DNA of a rapist should not be allowed to carry on through the womb of a fucking rape victim. This is simply how civilized, rational people think.

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          • go2mars

            The minimum penalty for rape should be castration.

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        • Hank

          Idiot!

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        • Steak

          You conservatives, at times, are hilarious. I bet that you’d be thrilled bringing a child to this earth that happened to be a product of a crime against your significant other. It’s easy to be an armchair conservative, and repeat nonsense all day long. But when it comes down to it, if you were in the position, you’d want to abort in a heartbeat.

          It’s not at all fair to force a grown woman to have a child conceived by rape. Sorry, but given the option, I’d save the life/sanity of a real person vs a cluster of cells.

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  25. Hermes

    Great post..any thought of putting thumbs up/down for posts?

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  26. ruggyup

    Vote for “O” if Romney isn’t nominated? What a fucking brilliant strategy that is. That’s like saying I’ll fuck a back street whore if I don’t get the clap first from a high school sweetie that I’m still porking on the side. Come on, let’s have a rational argument. Not an after-hours McSorley bullshit exchange.

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    • The Fly

      I have O now. Why the fuck would I want someone different, just for the sake of different?

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      • JakeGint

        Maybe something to do with that destroying the economy, brick by brick, thing?

        Holy shit. I sometimes wonder if you ever get outside your trade cave. Have you had a look at the regulatory environment as of late? Wondering perhaps why that stubborn old economy can’t get past 0.5% growth and unemployment hovers at 10%?

        You like living in lower standard of living Europe? You should go check it out — sans the hotel room — one of these days.

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  27. Dr Genius

    The Fly’s vote does not count since he lives in NYC.

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    • JakeGint

      Don’t bet this asshole wins New York in 2012.

      Reagan took every state but Minnesota (and D.C.) in 1984. By 2012, the country may very well be that pissed off.

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      • The Fly

        PERRY IS NO FUCKING REAGAN.Fuck Texas. Fuck it twice.

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        • JakeGint

          HAHAHAHA!

          Tejas rocks, le Fly. Someday, you will abide there, with La Mademoiselle.

          You will have a ten gallon hat and two pearl handled six shooters and you will LOVE it.

          😉

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  28. xxxHuggieBearxxx

    While i like how we praise the clam for driving the market up because it is good for us, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, The Clam and The Fed are the only non-dysfunctional parts of our government. They set a strategy, they fucking execute it, and results happen.

    You may disagree with their approach, and I can appreciate it is rather controversial, but they are actually accomplishing things and are single-handedly keeping this ship afloat while the motherfuckers in congress fiddle.

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    • xxxHuggieBearxxx

      Fucking FlyBoy Perry orta get taken out behind the Woodshed for sticking his nose where he doesn’t have the brains to back it up, and he orta be tried for treason for his comments today.

      He’s like a fucking dime-store Bush knock-off doll….

      But Got-Damn son, they’ll love him in Texas (and their poorer brethren states).

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      • wolftrade

        Yeah, they love him everywhere in Texas except for Austin where all the brainpower is. They love him so much they threw a Molotov cocktail through the ignorant bible humpers front window.

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        • JakeGint

          Yeah, no “brainpower” in Dallas, Houston or San Antonio.

          No, all the “brainpower” exists in the state capitol, where all the very useful professors live, too! ROFL.

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    • The Fly

      THANK YOU.

      I will make this simple for your bible people. If any candidate is against The Fed, I am against them. Simple enough?

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      • JakeGint

        Don’t be a dope. Learn to discern between political theater and policy.

        Jeezus, have another pina colada. I’m about to call your wife to wrest you from the keyboard and take you salsa dancing or something.

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  29. mike

    WNR top 5 pick of Goldman Sachs…….http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2011/08/16/goldman-sachs-top-5-picks.aspx

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  30. Berniecornfeld

    Even in reading the comments you can tell the US has just run out of ideas can’t you? Its like the TeeVee and movies, you can’t come up with anything original, so lets just go with the sequel.

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    • DRAXWIN

      wtf does that mean? and did you come up with calling “tv” sTeeVee’s? or did u jack that from someone? how bout the language of enlish did you come up with that? What did you think, you would hit this blog and it would turn out to be the golden foutain of youth and you would be crush the competion with 1 sift blow?

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    • go2mars

      Ron Paul.

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  31. Mr. Cain Thaler

    Not voting is a healthy way of handling this issue.

    Caine would be sweet though; mathematicians named Cain(e) need to stick together.

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  32. Marc David

    I really don’t think Mitt would be for smaller government. He strikes me as another Obama but GOP. His corporation friendly attitude is pretty much in-line with what you have now. I see nothing to suggest he’s different, He’s created a lot of new taxes and championed several big government spending programs. RomneyCare anyone? Still socialized government healthcare.

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  33. mhass33

    Fly can you please give us your real opinion on Ron Paul. If you stop and actually think about the long term economic (and PHILOSOPHICAL) inflection point we have reached, Ron Paul is the moral choice (and you have shown us your soft side on occasion as pertaining to non market related issues). The man was concerned that monetary policy would lead us to this point back in the SEVENTIES, it was his reason for getting into politics. He called the housing bubble in 2003. If this isn’t his year then America is over. The stars seem to be aligning for him.

    I also don’t see how this whole “trading will cease as an activity” will play out. Even if there will be a multi-year bear market (which is happening anyway), its nothing that hasn’t happened in the past.

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  34. Frog playing a colorful accordion with emotional fortitude
    Frog playing a colorful accordion with emotional fortitude

    I agree, Fly. Obama is a bad president. He is not practical. But he is at least intelligent– if only in the academic sense. He is less bad than having a religious nutcase president who is also a mental retardate.

    I wish there would be some good person running for pres who would refuse to accept campaign donations from any Special Interest Groups. And Congressional candidates like that too.

    My vote doesn’t count. Only the lobbyists’ votes– voting with large sums of money– count.

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    • JakeGint

      God save me from the libs who think Obama can think clearly without the help of two Axelrod aides and a backup teleprompter.

      What has he done that hasn’t been deleterious? One thing?

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      • JakeGint

        Note — the class commies will “thumb down” (there are 3 I can always count on), but they remain silent as to actual response, unable to muster even one positive attribute for their fallen idol.

        Sad.

        Hell — use the Nobel Prize thing if you can’t think of anything, ya saps! 😉

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  35. ALF

    Fly – that shit makes me sick. That’s the last thing I expected to hear from you.

    Before you said was time to finally fix the US and the problems that are spiraling out of control.

    Now you go and say, under ANY circumstance, that you would vote to reelect the most fiscally irresponsible president the US has ever seen while defending the bigger problem – CLAM.

    I get that your objective is to make money – but at what point are you willing to sacrifice the longevity of your country’s health? What problem has ever gone away permanently by continuously kicking the can?

    Honestly disappointing.

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    • mhass33

      Yea that’s what I’m saying. I don’t get it. We saw one post during the debt ceiling debate about finally addressing the issue, but now he’s back on the QE train.

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      • Frog playing a colorful accordion with emotional fortitude
        Frog playing a colorful accordion with emotional fortitude

        Back on the QE train for a reason. You can’t do austerity and deficit reduction during a Depression. If you do, you will never emerge from it. I know, Von Mises and Ron Paul say it will work out– but it only works out in their dreams, not in the real world.

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        • mhass33

          Under a debt based system you might be right, but we are coming to the end of that either through acknowledgement and accepted transition, or through severe societal collapse. I think Ron Paul offers the former. The system is breaking down because it is inherently unsustainable.

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        • ALF

          Great Frog,

          QE has clearly had a lasting impact in the real world. Look at all the organic growth it provided!

          The market is way ahead of where it was when QE II started, plus our broad economic indicators are absolutely thriving!

          Love the logic. The philosophy you share with Krugman has done absolute wonders when applied outside of the dream state.

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        • JakeGint

          Frog — google “The Depression of 1920-21”

          Read up, little foo’.

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    • The Fly

      ROFL!!!

      You people and your false nationalism. Don’t you fuckers know this country was built on special interests. Here’s a hint: your special interest is your own.

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      • ALF

        Not your kids?

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      • Banker Banger

        Your nationalism is to no nationalism of any kind. It places the corrupted ego at the center of the Universe. Godlessness is the first step toward opening your soul to the diabolic. Be my guest. I offer you to the demonic entities that roam this place. I direct them to you. They have much to feed on there.

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        • IMABADAZ

          dude relax, he’s speaking Milton’s book in his own fucked up kinda way.

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        • Frog playing a colorful accordion with emotional fortitude
          Frog playing a colorful accordion with emotional fortitude

          Take your meds, Banker Banger. U R going off the deep end.

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    • JakeGint

      The irony is that mindless Clam Support is as ephemeral a bid for market success as mindless ‘Bama support.

      But what do I know? I’ve only been banquing coyne off the Fed’s mistakes for ten years now.

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    • Banker Banger

      It’s kinda like the fucking CIA came to Fly and Jake’s home for a visit.

      “Support bullshit dictators or else.”

      And here we are.

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  36. Berniecornfeld

    I demmand more carrotswith my peas!

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  37. Vegastrader

    Yes lets all vote for Big O. Then pump up the stock market to Dow 20,000 short it and ride it down to 5000. I like it. No I love it. The country will be fucked but we will all be rich.

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    • GravestoneDoji

      Bingo. Why settle for 5,000? 500 works. Prechter would be vindicated also. Everyone needs some love!

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  38. alf44

    …I’m still trying to envision Romney enjoying a warm loaf of “banana bread” !!!

    Not to mention … one baked up by one of his … uhhh … “wives” !

    What imagery !!!

    .

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  39. xxxHuggieBearxxx

    I thought The Fly attracted a more sophisticated sort to this here blog, but what has been made plain tonight, vis a vis the comments above, is that the the place is overrun with simpletons of the simplest sort.

    Some day you idgits will all be bankrupt and on tilt, and a new flock of generous donators will arrive.

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    • The Fly

      It seems my blog is not read by people who trade. There are plenty of people willing to save this fucking country and take it back from the special interests, however.

      How they intend to do this from their computer room, God and Mr. Dinosaur from millions of years ago know.

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      • Banker Banger

        As if UN Agenda 21 that your presidential selections are going to support will save the planet? Give me a fucking break, dude. What do you think worldwide austerity is going to do to the stock market, genius?

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        • go2mars

          Nominal gains through inflation are what he’s interested in (near as I can tell). Play the fiddle while Rome burns kind of thing…

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    • Hammy

      You’re really good at kissing ass on this blog.

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      • The Fly

        And you are really good at being a rude prick.

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      • ALF

        Huggie Bear once again comes off as someone who lost too much on the recent downturn and is scratching his forearms for more QE.

        As to FLY – why not pull a ghetto fabulous and bank coin on the downside BOIIII

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  40. Hammy

    Herman Cain is running on the Fair Tax, which advocates zero income tax, cap gains tax, social security, etc for everyone. It would be replaced by a national 23% sales tax. It’s an interesting idea for tax reform. Wikipedia it.

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    • The Fly

      I like it.

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      • South of the Mason-Dixon
        South of the Mason-Dixon

        Cain supports the Fed, but he believes in God. He’s a minister. Southern Baptist no less. Gasp! How can this be?!

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        • JakeGint

          Caine’s great, but the 23% sales tax is a non-starter. You couldn’t implement it without getting rid of the 16th Amendment first, and you’d have to send out liquidation teams to take out the tax-eaters who would vote against such a lunch-stealer til their last corpulent breath has been expelled.

          You are much better off with a Flat Tax that is spread across a broader spectrum so you capture a big part of the 50% freeloader segment.

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    • GravestoneDoji

      fuck the Fair Tax, another bozo idea that’ll never be implemented. We need confiscatory taxes for everyone. Only tax evaders prosper. Bon Bons and free cell phones for all.

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  41. The Fly

    Speaking of special interests. Anyone notice how many comments this post is getting, following several posts of less than stellar activity?

    BLOGFATHER.

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    • Frog playing a colorful accordion with emotional fortitude
      Frog playing a colorful accordion with emotional fortitude

      Speaking of Special Interests, someone named Fly just said:

      “Rick Perry is a bible toting simpleton, who will endorse BIG fucking oil, as if that shit was oxygen.”

      That’s the kind of thing I’m talking about. Also things like Obamacare which is a giant giveaway to the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries at taxpayer expense.

      OK, so Special Interests have their place. But they should not dictate everything while voters and taxpayers constantly get screwed.

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  42. j

    Agreed, Fly. However I will add one thing. If they don’t primary Mitt then don’t vote. But please whatever you don’t don’t vote for Odumbo even if it means sitting this one out.

    In any event it doesn’t matter, as you live in a Dem state.

    Fucking moron Perry is calling the Fed treasonous now? The Clam was the only thing between where the country/world is now and going back to the stone age.

    The trouble is, you have a bunch of morons going to You Tube, watching some idiot with a baseball bat beat the shit out of a clam-like pinata because the US is not on a gold standard and think that’s monetary policy.

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    • JakeGint

      It’s politics, J. He’s throwing out the red meat, even though he didn’t really need to.

      Probably didn’t see that he had a double digit lead on Romneycare as per Rasmussen today.

      Romney — already handicapped by being a Northeaster liberal-type (youtube is tough) — is el Smoko.

      Done, buried.

      Maybe veep though.

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      • j

        Really Jae, you think Mitt is done? Sad to be honest.

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        • j

          oops… Jake…

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          • JakeGint

            Yeah. He’s a smart guy, but too much Romneycare baggage, unfortunately.

            Repubs realize that they can’t get a fair shot at the worst political decision since the Great Society if they have a candidate who’s quasi-backed a similar program.

            They need a clean conservative, and I think Perry’s the only one left standing. I’d love to see Perry-Caine, but they will probably force Romney on him.

            Won’t be such a bad thing, as Romney can be an actual working Veep, unlike what we have now.

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          • bluehubbard

            romneys is mormon – the true american christfuckers would vote for satan first

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          • JakeGint

            I dunno… Hugh Hewitt’s a big evangel radio talk guy in LA and he loves Romney. Been stumping for him for years.

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    • j

      Honest question.

      WHO THE FUCK VOTED FOR BACHMANN in the straw polls? Who are these people?

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      • JakeGint

        The straw polls are not real political voting events, J, they are FUNDRAISERS.

        In other words, they mean nothing. You get enough of your supporters to show up in Ames Iowa and they buy tickets to the dinner, YOU WIN.

        Guess what? Michelle Bachmann is from Iowa originally. Ron Paul’s wackies follow him everywhere like Deadheads following Jerry.

        Is this starting to make some sense now?

        From the Ames Straw Poll Wikipedia Entry:

        The poll takes place among attendees of a fundraising dinner benefiting the Iowa Republican Party. Before the vote, each candidate is given a chance to make a short speech to the attendees.

        The poll has been described as a cross between a political convention and a county fair, where Iowa voters have a chance to mingle, eat barbecue and have a little fun. The party divides the venue into sections and auctions each to the candidates, who can then set up booths to present their case to the voters. The larger areas and those closest to the entrance often fetch the highest price. In 2011 bidding started at $15,000 and ranged to as high as $31,000 (bid by Ron Paul). [3]

        Non-Republicans are allowed to vote in the Ames Straw Poll. However, all voters must be at least 16 1/2 years of age, be legal residents of the state of Iowa or a student attending an Iowa university/college, and purchase a ticket priced at $30, however some campaigns pay the fee for their supporters.[4] Voters have their hands stamped or their thumbs dipped in ink when entering the voting area so that they cannot vote twice. Ballots are put into electronic voting machines.

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      • GravestoneDoji

        i was gonna vote for Bachmann until i saw the sausage photo, too much teeth.

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    • The Fly

      For the record, I love J from Australia.

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  43. j

    As the Asian market… slightly up with Japan down a tige. All quiet to slightly positive.

    Only news is that the Japanese manufactures say they are now losing money with the yen this low and there are calls to get serious with it.

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  44. Hitter

    Couldn’t stand to wade through112 political responses. Apologies if this is a repeat. Fly is right. If Rebubs field another fool i will also vote for Bama. He is (as has been mentioned here) Bush 3, a Clam supporter, and a guy who wants to leave office and coin BC money. No Fool, No Foul. All civilisations go our current route (read one’s Gibbon and Durants) and our obligation today is to Bank Coin to the max to protect us and ours as best we can. Think about it and get to work with the ibank group.

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  45. mike mancini

    The banana bread comment was too good.

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  46. Banker Banger

    Sorry if I bashed a few heads. I like to mosh. It’s part of the fun. Plus, if you are an uneducated faggot, that’s not my fault. Fucking don’t watch so much TV because it makes you a fucking easy target.

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  47. GravestoneDoji

    politics don’t matter – both parties are going to do what they will when they are in. And it’ll be the same thing…PRINT BABY PRINT. Unless RP were elected, which would be the Apocalypse for so many fucktards and savage amusement.

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  48. mhass33

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2I4e_RdEfU&feature=related

    pay off the debt with debt free US notes

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  49. Messy Givermpre

    We are only about two elections away from President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.

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  50. IMABADAZ

    Das Fly…’Genius or Moron…? Shit… what does that make me? Fuck you.

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  51. parasailsam

    You are the shit Fly, You enthrall and revolt me simultaneously.
    I really enjoy your rants, it really doesn’t get too much better.
    I just might have to go premium….

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  52. Bullish

    I agree almost completely with Señor Tropicana tonight.

    The GOP is scary this year. I’ve been pondering “How did we get so extreme”? These canidates are basically calling for a revolution. Its between Perrry/Bachman/Paul/Palin? These are the choices?

    I’ll take none of them, thank you.

    Vote for Mitt… I guess?!

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    • IMABADAZ

      Schizophrenia symptoms usually develop slowly over months or years. Sometimes you may have many symptoms, and at other times you may only have a few. The Fly will not help your condition Mr. Bullish.

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    • JakeGint

      Get a sac, Bullish… without someone relatively “right” to counter the far left Obama drift, we’ll never get rid of all of the lead cannon balls he’s been tying to the economy for the last three years (five if you include the Nancy years).

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      • TeahouseOnTheTracks
        TeahouseOnTheTracks

        “relatively right?” …. those candidates are a regular who’s who of The John Birch Society …. Jake, you’re starting to turn into Robert Welch for heavens sake! Time to wean yourself from the teet of low taxes and high fructose Kool Aid.

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        • JakeGint

          Try to get out of Taxachussetts every once in a while. The brain begins to de-fog almost immediately.

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    • Cloris Leechman

      The GOPICP is simply the bitter fruit of the cynical, evangelical-coddling, extremist positioning tactics employed so successfully by Grover Norquist, Turd Blossom, Ralph Reed et al. that brought the GOP victory in the Bush years (plus the House in the 112th, and a few other small majorities in flyover municipalities populated by mouthbreathers). But then that momentum kept on going toward the evangelical right, until even Turd Blossom started getting publicly nervous about losing control of it…and he did. And lo, the Tea Party was born, in all its extremist, far out, insane clown posse magnificence. Now you can’t even come close to getting any juice in the GOP unless you’re a complete whackjob. Serves them right. Live by the sword, die by the sword, bitchez. May they lose every single fucking contest until they come to their senses and start acting like normal people.

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      • JakeGint

        Yeah, the 2010 elections sure proved your thesis, there, didn’t they, asshat?

        Again, you lefties are so frozen in the solipsistic amber of your sixties-era worldview, it’s not likely you’ll be massaged out of your perma-smug grins until you’ve lost 45-46 states for the duration.

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        • Cloris Leechman

          LOL. You blazed right by “the 112th” in your firebreathing zeal there, Jake. You should throw your hat in the ring, you’d fit right in. Make Phil Davison your running mate! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMgyi57s-A4

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          • JakeGint

            So you are expecting that the great landslide of 2010 is a one time affair and that America is going to slide right back into that warm Pelosi Pie once again, since it was so successful the first time around?

            Again, solipsism, thy name is blue state cluetard. See you in 2012.

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  53. En1gma

    Debating politics today a friend of mine proposed that the President is elected to a single 8 year term. While that would mean we’d have Obama for 8 years, it also means he wouldn’t be running for reelection or kissing everyone’s ass or paying off campaign promises to special interests or gearing up for the next ballots.

    With a single 8 year term the President could come in and effect real change and say fuck you to any special interest groups. Once elected, he could set a direction and make things happen. Everytime I turn on the TV our POTUS is doing another fucking townhall defending his latest bitchfest with Congress. If he were in for 8 years he could confidently state, I’M HERE MOTHERFUCKERS, LET’S GET SHIT DONE. FUCK YOUR BUS TOURS.

    I would vote for that. I like to think Obama would have been different if he weren’t in campaign mode 24/7.

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  54. Apocalypse Now

    This election like all national elections will not be decided in New York or California but in the Midwest.

    The ideal ticket would be Paul Ryan Ron Paul or Paul Ryan Mark Rubio.

    Adult E-trade babies cry for more claim juice, serious people know we need to address structural jobs issues and a sustainable monetary and fiscal policy unless you want everyone unemployed trading their unemployment checks after logging into IBC. Right now grandmas are being forced to trade / look for yield since the banks are borrowing at 0% and parking reserves back at the fed for a nice risk free return while savings accounts and short term treasuries are essentially negative real returns. All of the government intervention including when they decide to and not decide to juice the markets makes investing anything but based on fundamentals. It just becomes what will Bernanke do, as liquidity floats or sinks all boats.

    Intelligent design is infinitely more intelligent than a hypothesis that all the complexity, patterns, and systems including 100 trillion cells perfectly put together (the human body) spontaneously came from nothing and is self organizing with perfect order. When Darwin created his hypothesis, it was before we knew spontaneous generation was not correct and you couldn’t get organic from inorganic material (they thought flies came from garbage because they didn’t have microscopes). Ironically, spontaneous generation was proven incorrect after Darwin but it didn’t effect evolution?

    The human mind is the most advanced intelligence in the universe and we can barely understand how perfectly everything works together, yet something less intelligent than mankind (dust explosion) created everything against the current laws of the universe (thermodynamics). We are still pulling up fish from the deep that were thought extinct in the fossil record “50 million years ago” but they have not changed over that time period. Human footprints have also been found next to dinosaur footprints while supposed transition species like ape skulls have been proven to be frauds.

    So if we add a bunch of zeros to the number of years all the laws of the universe can be magically suspended. People that say if you leave monkeys in a room for long enough, they will create the entire works of Shakespeare. Those people are ignorant and gullible morons and should visit the zoo. A tornado going through a junk yard creating a fully functioning Boeing 747 is a piece of cake compared to an explosion creating a fully functioning human being. How many tornadoes have created construction rather than destruction?

    DNA is a blueprint language and language is a marker of intelligence (and intelligent design). 1:1.618 is the pattern of beauty, a mathematical repeating pattern throughout nature, spiral arms of galaxies, etc. Closer to the sun we burn, father we freeze and plants are in symbiosis with animals in exchanging oxygen and CO2. Animals like the woodpecker with shock absorbers in the brain, extra long tongue, special claws and special beak for getting through tree bark only make sense from a systems perspective not slow changes as survival of the fittest would have doomed individual variations like choking on a long tongue. But this is all just random?

    Judging by history and the people of today we may be devolving consistent with thermodynamics. We are advanced from the perspective of technology and collaboration but individuals like Sir Francis Bacon and Newton lived hundreds of years ago (truly brilliant minds).

    I have no primates swinging from my family tree. Think for yourself independently, and you will feel and know that in your heart that this is the voice of reason. The majority of people believe in “God” so an intelligent business plan would include catering to the majority of customers. Evolution and intelligent design both require faith, I just find it easier to believe based on the implied intelligence in design that a higher intelligence created it rather than dust. People that believe themselves nothing more than animals are easily controlled.

    We will settle this disagreement and determine the winner when our life insurance policies are triggered.

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    • parasailsam

      10 paragraphs of serious drivel.

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      • Hank Moody

        Apocalypse now I suspect you do in fact have apes swinging from your family tree, particularly, because of a suspicion that you are a creationist, bible bashing fag if I have ever heard one.

        Perhaps Senator Jake the man with the gunt can enlighten us on Darwinism and whether the fly actually came from the trash.

        These literal interpreting bible preaching fundamental Christians would have you believe so!

        I’m indulging in a clam pasta for breakfast mother fuckkkkers!

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        • JakeGint

          Relax Spankie. I’m a Catholic.

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        • Apocalypse Now

          Ad hominem attacks are the refuge of a weak mind.

          Intelligent design is a fact all around us in both nature and civilization. You can disagree that a higher level of intelligence was required to create the high level of intelligent design but you can not disagree with the high order of complexity and intelligence within the design itself.

          To set the record straight, evolution is a scientific theory with a hypothesis that has not been proven. Apparently some were not paying attention during their science class. If you understood science, you would know that the hypothesis needs to be proven through a repeatable experiment to observe an evolution – good luck building a universe. Cancer is an example of cellular modification, although the immune system can positively adapt, our bodies are rebuilt every 2 months (soft tissue) and every 2 years (bones) based on the architectural blueprint called DNA. Again, the departures from improper coding/communication of the DNA to the new cloned cells is called cancer.

          The strength of your cogent argument especially vulgarity and exclamation marks is very convincing, just add a few emoticons for more emotional impact.

          I never mentioned the bible, and what is simpleton view? That everything came from nothing. The philosopher and intellectual understands that is not possible with the laws of the universe. By the way religion and science can co-exist, I love science but know the difference between theory and fact. Science can answer how while religion attempts to answer why.

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    • go2mars

      “Human footprints have also been found next to dinosaur footprints while supposed transition species like ape skulls have been proven to be frauds.”

      That’s completely wrong. I’m a geologist. If God made the world 6000 years ago, he made it to look 4.6 billion years old, and included an interesting fossil record of adaptive evolution. There are no human footprints beside dinosaur footprints, and most of the great ape fossils are not frauds (though there were a few phonies about a century ago). I think things are as they appear. It doesn’t wrack my faith to believe in both God, and evolution.

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      • Apocalypse Now

        Which came first, the chicken or the egg? We now have the answer in that the protein required for the shell of an egg can only come from an adult chicken – therefore the adult chicken came first.

        Have you ever seen a human baby that if left alone could live on its own? Babies can’t feed themselves much less fend for themselves. In fact, if they are not coddled or touched they can die from a condition called failure to thrive. Babies are dependent completely on adult humans. What’s my point? Which came first, the adult human or a baby?

        This is common sense and has nothing to do with creation/evolution. We have recently witnessed a change in decay rates for periodic elements on earth from changes in the sun showing that the rate is variable bringing into question the view that decay rates from solar radiation are constant. That is one item that could change the timeline, but we were shocked to find little dust on the moon, the major river deltas should show the accumulation of millions of years of silt but they are more consistent with thousands. Arctic glaciers indicate the same with their freeze / thaw patterns occurring many times per year (ice sample layers). I do not know the age of the earth and do not claim to know it, but I question the millions figure because of the anomaly findings. I try to look at facts before deciding what to believe regardless if it fits my preconceived notions or if someone else believes it. Sometimes we don’t have all the facts and that is OK to say we don’t know it all (including in the case of evolution).

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  55. Frog playing a colorful accordion with emotional fortitude
    Frog playing a colorful accordion with emotional fortitude

    LOL, why do political discussions always feel like I let those traveling missionaries into my house? And here they are, listening to not one word I have to say, but just hell bent on converting me to their own religion.

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    • Banker Banger

      Central bankers currently seek a one-world religion. This is the mother Earth-worshipping and central banker-friendly Gaya religion, with strong connections to Luciferianism.

      The central bankers that the non-Bible candidates support are supporting yet another religion.

      Ever hear of Lucis Trust, a leading NGO of the UN? Or the Earth Charter? They are using the religion of science to support the exaltation of the human ego. They work to destroy all other major religions at the same time.

      Do your research… this shit is not good. I’ve worked with demonologists and demons are no fucking good.

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  56. skogie1

    Let’s hear it for the Great Disappointment in 2012!

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  57. theedge111

    Wow Fly

    U are willing to sell out this country and support more QE?

    May u rot in hell my friend. I hope u get stung by a giant jellyfish that renders u useless.

    This country is beyond disgusting at this point. I pray that the DOW goes to 2000 and maims all of u fucktards and renders u useless.

    Bernanke is risking this countries currency. Idiots like u will create an inflationary nightmare.

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  58. JakeGint

    Don’t worry… Fly sent me a pic from the island.

    I think it explains a lot.

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  59. norcal

    ROFLMAO!!!

    What can you say, but “classic Le Fly”….indeud!!

    Funny shit…keep it coming….I can already tell that 2012 is going to be a laugh riot. Elections, end of the world scenarios, etc…

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  60. Ron Paul is back
    Ron Paul is back

    ur an idiot! I’m going to win

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  61. SilentKz

    It is not republican or democrat. But the system itself.

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  62. SkyTrader

    Holy shit there are some retarded people here.

    Go back to school — start with a BASIC science class.

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  63. Superpositron

    When George Dubuya came to power he inherited a budget surplus of 300 Billion from the Clinton administration.

    When George Dubuya left office he handed Obama a budget deficit of 1.2 trillion and two unwinable wars costing the earth.

    Obama inherited a bloody mess. What leader, republican, democrat or otherwise could do better then what Mr Obama has done?

    🙂

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    • JakeGint

      Pleeze. The “surplus” was bullshit — only in the positive if you counted the socialist security grab.

      And Bush stepped right into day one of th Clinton Downturn/Recession after he’d left the defense forces denuded and not ready for 911. Let’s not be silly.

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      • Joe

        Not to mention that we enjoyed an unemployment rate at around 5% for most of the Bush years (thanks in part to those evil tax cuts). Besides, wasn’t Bush’s worst year in 2008 when he had a $400billion deficit and a very left congress. 2009 to present belongs to Obama and the dems.

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  64. David Tepper

    Fucking god fearing fruit cakes it’s Religulous!

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  65. ineedcoin

    Romney for the win!

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  66. Joe

    Can’t believe I just spent my whole lunch hour reading through all that. Sheesh…

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