The rhetoric on CSPAN is amazing, callers and democrats alike are going in on “CORPORATE JET OWNERS.”
The return of the fucking horse and buggy is coming.
Watch vote here. It’s coming soon.
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Is this shit true?! — gotta to be an urban legend.
“In Boston, the city forced the fire department to stop the practice called “King for a Day” in which a retiring worker could become acting Fire Chief for a day and retire at the higher pay grade. In response to this change, 30 fire fighters filed for disability 1 day before the end of the program to boost their pay even higher”
Do they do “the boot” in California? Around here they block the road with fire equipment so traffic slows to a crawl, then they put the biggest firemen in the street with large black boots. Then as you drive by they shove the boot in your window to extract tribute for whatever they are raising dollars for. Quite a spectacle.
It’s called fill the boot. It’s done once a year. I don’t know where your “around here” is, but where I work in South Central L.A. we don’t block the street, we stay out of the lane, and one only sees a boot at close range if one stops to donate. The money goes to the Muscular Dystrophy Association.
Remember that back in 1850s firefighters were organized,private GANGS. They often fought among each other for the right to fight the fire while the building burned in front of everybody. At some point, They became public employees……..”>
In Yarmouth, Mass, firefighters live in the firehouse for two days, collect 8 hours overtime and have the rest of the week to work the “other business”. When they negotiate contracts, they claim their job is MAIN income (false,BS)…”>
they work 83 days out of the year,and while they roam your house or flat,their hands are in your wifes’ jewelry box,and your tall boy dresser drawers
What Drummerboy says of Chicago is true in NYC.
As a NYC cop, I got grilled for a stolen laptop when I stayed at street level !
Go for it , IAD !
These first 13 posts are from last summer ……….. you got a glitch !
Yeah, these posts are from 1 year ago. In NYC, FD works 3 on 4 off, meaning they can work another full time job or business and retire after 20 years.
No city employees at all can deal in cash. Go figure.
No one wants to call FD because they are quick to put an axe through your wall looking for fire. When they leave you will find doors broken down that you could easily have unlocked for them, holes in the wall, jewelry missing, and the cat pregnant.
No fire, though.
http://youtu.be/VP3Q1nOzgR0
I don’t know how they do it on the east coast but I find that hard to believe. Here in L.A. we are at work a minimum of 240 hours a month. Where I work in South Central/Watts/Compton area, having a second job is a tall order as we go all day and all night. Thievery is absolutely not tolerated, not only by the department, but by our fellow firefighters. A thief or worse would be dealt with more harshly than they get by the disciplinary and legal process. Honest folks, we love our jobs and are here to do you right. There will always be an occasional bad apple in the fire service just like there is the occasional bad apple in the money management business or any other.
One of my friends is a fireman with a very lucrative home renovations business.
Let’s see you put your life on the line motherfucker. The bravery of being out of range.
fuck you asshole.i call out any and every mother fucker.not much i havent seen by cops and fire men. life on the line? what a joke.i dont know any mother fucker that has the balls to get up in the middle of the night by fucking gang bangers that come into the “hood” to stop,get out of the car to take a piss and throw garbage in my lawn,because they think they can. the cops that live 2 doors down know not to fuck with me. especially when they know that i know they’re crooks…..go piss up a rope jagoff…….geez,ever wonder where cops and firemen who make as much has the next guy can always out spend their neighbor for expensive projects around the house one after another,whereas us un-robbing of people have to plan and save for projects………
Really, it’s going to be ok. Pro tip- adjust the meds, they don’t seem to be taking the edge off.
eat shit !
That shit it true. Firefighters retire on full pay if its during a disability.
That’s completely false anywhere in the civilized world, including Mexico.
There’s large amounts of money involved.
http://youtu.be/EmC26RuO26g
That last post was directed to Mark David’s first post about each fireman retiring at Chief’s salary, but it printed all the way down here.
There is no link in that post.
Thank you sir.
B.W.W.
missing…link?
CLASS IN SESSION!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq8s0JShs7o&feature=player_embedded#at=314
Excellent! Nice to see some people out there who understand how this works!
The other fascinating part is how all those ring-asses mill about and wander around, sometimes forcing the Speaker to admonish “THERE WILL BE ORDER……………..THERE WILL BE ORDER…………… THERE WILL BE ORDER……….” And to be fair, the callers on the Republican/ Tea Party side sound like mouth-breathing illiterates…………………….just sayin’
Talk about mouth breathers. I saw a John Stossel interview yesterday, he was in the streets of NYC and he stopped folks and asked them “what does debt ceiling mean” and “how much is it”. He got dumb looks and answers like “I don’t know”, or “two million”? Then he showed them a picture of John Bohner and none of them knew who he was. Of course they know Snookie on Jersey Shores. These folks are all products of the liberal, elite, urbane, sophisticated northeast establishment… I bet you could go to Tennessee and get better answers…
Reminds me of a quote I saw on the C-span feed……..” Republicans want to cut education to create more GOP voters . lol
So what is the “your comment is awaiting moderation ” trigger?
its being sent to congress to get aproved, see boehner
Did you mean boehner or boner?
Also, beware the media; editing is a powerful tool……
Editing? All he did was walk out on the street holding a big poster of Bohner and a mic with a cameraman following him around.
I guess what I’m getting at is if you only show the stupidest respondents, you will show a tilted version of reality. Having said that, an astonishingly low percentage of people in this country are clear on which revolves aroun which: Sun or Earth.Again, highlighting the critical nature of educating the masses to at least a minimum level……….
Were there any horse and buggy dealerships in amish land while you were there? What’s the going rate for a 3 year lease on a horse and buggy? I’ll need one with pleather and full leaf suspension…none of this “old timey” solid axle shit for me.
lol their brand of mr.goodwrench. “ye ol blacksmith shoppe”.bring in your buggy,and will pimp it fugly”.
Amish land is happen’n lately. everyone works their ass off. three horses were pulling a huge piece of
farm machinery along side of the road, four horses were pulling an Amish farmer as he was cutting hay;
in another field, a little old Amish man was behind two horses as he was cutting hay in a huge field. I am
sure he was going to be there forever. At a brand new hotel I was working at, a van full of Amish people
pulled up, piled out, and went to work. The youngest lad, probably about 11. Just a brief report since
I was there recently. They fuck’n know how to work, and I totally respect them.
i’ll put em up against any illegal south westerners that come to the midwest to work a half a year then go back and live like kings for the other half………….
We have a big community of them here and they are hard working, industrious and diligent in all they do. They are great neighbors and when they need my skills at one of their shops or homes they pay what I ask, always and without hesitation, cash.
I don’t agree with their philosophy that God wanted “progress” to stop is the middle of the 18th century but I respect them deeply for their commitment. They take care of each other, share anything they have with anyone and I would hate to see them leave our area.
Some days……………I gotta say there are parts of their lifestyle that look pretty dang good.
So political. Corperate jet owners? Lol obamas tax covers maybe 5 billion of the 3 trillion they need to make up for.
Hyperinflation or deflation. These are the choices essentially unless we create more jobs via more employers. There aren’t enough mark zuckerbergs in the world that can create a product that sells itself without needing experince or business knowledge. Most people just throw a few darts and hope it sticks. 9/10 businesses fail for a reason. These 9 potentially could have created millions of jobs if they knew what the Frick they were doing.
I think I want to vote the biggest assholes in office next election to give them the blame for the rest of history.
Financial education is not a short enough term solution but we could delay it more safely if we had a long term plan.
No one cares about long term solutions. We will all be jobless paying no taxes and forced into socialism all for the int. Banksters gain.
9/10 businesses fail… That’s 900% more job creators we could have if people knew from the start what the he’ll they were doing.
How about we have a systemthat teaches people how to build a successful business system so 50 years from now we can support our population.
Ten-hut!
There’s an officer on DECK!
A great quote from the movie “A Few Good Men”.
You are obviously referring to Master Fly as the officer and you are paying him homage for his awesome call on DECK!
whats klip klop , klip klop, bang! klip klop, klip klop. ans: amish drive by.
If they tax my Gulfstream, I’m going to sell it to the Libyan airforce…they’re paying top dollar, but you have to fly it there…any pilots available?
u could hire amish delivery company, but it might take a year to deliver, horses swim kinda slow
When they extend their assholishness to my ultralite, it is game over. Welcome to the United States of Red Dragon.
Mexico’s unemployment rate is now 4.9 percent, compared with 9.4 percent joblessness in the United States.
See how legalizing drugs (unofficially) can create good paying jobs!
content junkies work their asses off
Speaking of Jet owners, don’t hate the playa, hate the game….
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/rapper_soulja_boy_spends_on_private_LX0CVeiLHRkAqJ1SZ8sBCI
Wow! Good for him!
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the United States government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance in foreign countries to finance our government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means, ‘The buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today on to the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
That was Senator Barack Obama inveighing against raising the debt ceiling in March of 2006.
Clinton left office with a budget surplus, during good times. The economy was still doing pretty well in 2006 as far as anyone knew.
Keynes economic theory advocates that the government run a surplus in good times, so that it can do deficit spending to get the economy back on track during recessions like the one we are in now. Not raising the debt ceiling in 2006 and raising it now would be entirely consistent with that theory.
But it’s a false theory. Everyone always spends hard in good times and bad.
It has worked before. Clinton reined in spending during good times and left office with a budget surplus. Everyone else since him of either party has spent like drunken sailors though.
No, Clinton was arm twisted by the Gingrich Congressional Reps (remember “The Contract w. America?”) who held the purse strings, to reign in spending. He signed those bills very reluctantly, and with a heavy dollop of defense spending cuts and bubble-era capital gains tax inflow, managed to barely eke out a surplus in his last year of office.
That is, if you include the moneys they stole from the “Social Security Lockbox.” surpluses.
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Wow. Americans are dying for democracy on foreign soil but the right wingers think that tyranny of the minority is OK at home.
Fundamentalism is stupid.
Who’s saying who is the minority?
No compromise tea partiers are the minority.
STOP PAYING ALL THE CONGRESSMAN AND SENATES and their assistants if there is no deal by deadline. I’m sure they will quickly settle. They get FAT paycheck and don’t deserve it.
Cannot believe all these rednecks elect such irresponsible tea party to congress. They forget the highest priority is to serve people rather than their principle, especially with such a big compromise already from democrats. After all, debt ceiling is the money gov HAS SPENT. Let them try to argue with CC company !
Vote out all these tea parties in 2012 if American people still have conciousness.
What tyranny of the minority? Cap, Cut and Balance has 80% polling approval.
Yet, your Dem Senate rejected it. Tyranny of the minority or representative democracy?
I guess it depends which voter registration card your gored ox was carrying.
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Liar.
Any chance the Obamas will back off on their use of Air Force 1? Could save the taxpayers a few bux….
Only on trips to the grocery for cigs.
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One of the interesting things about ideology and politics is that the effectiveness of government doesn’t depend on ideology as much as it does on other things– like how corrupt the official is. That being said, the extreme Right and extreme Left political systems seem to be more corrupt, on average, than those nearer to the middle of the political spectrum. Extremism sucks.
And ideology sucks too, for that reason. Because when someone is stuck on an ideology, they are stuck on stupid. They will defend the most corrupt or extreme politicians known to mankind, no matter what crazy things they do, as long as those politicians pretend to espouse their preferred ideology, And of course most politicians espouse any ideology that they think will get them votes.
That’s all most politicians have to offer the voter is pretty words about ideology. Because once they get into office, everything is to please their campaign financiers, not the voters.
Extremists are more likely to be controllaholics. Middle of the road people are more likely to be practical– to say “What’s necessary?” instead of “How can I control everyone else to make them more like I want them to be, or to give all their money to my campaign financiers?”
That would be me.
Maybe I should run for pres in “12”
Concentrate on getting people back to work, keeping business here instead of offshore via incentives both positive and negative.
Forget about the gay marriage thing, abortion and all those other divisive things that side track us. Concentrate on getting our fiscal house in order and leave the other drivel for a rainy day with nothing else to do. Face it. All those things that get people worked up will mean nothing if the US goes belly up. Time to get priorities correct and turn a deaf ear to “special” interests. It’s time for everyone to realize they are Americans first and gay, pro choice, pro life etc. second.
Get our guys and gals home from all the conflicts we are engaged in. Shouldn’t even require any thought as I would bet that a poll of Iraqi’s or Afghan’s would say they are much better off after having us muck about their countries for nearly a decade. War is when you go in and wipe everyone out, it doesn’t work any other way. Our Armed services are not and were never intended to be used for “disciplinary” action.
Somebody messes with us there will be hell to pay in one form or another but settling in for a decade long conflict will never happen.
Provide a way for decent hard working immigrants to be integrated into society through citizenship. If they don’t want to become US citizens and pay taxes here then the benefits they enjoy should be equivalent to their commitment. We can’t afford to support people who have no skin in the game.
Dr.Fly,
How can you listen to people like Senator Reid, yet criticize Sarah Palin?
Reid, cares for nothing more than party. If this country burned to the fucking ground all the while this fuck face was re elected by union casino employees sucking the government tit would you give a flying fuck?
Yay or fucking Nay?
I would like to curb stomp Reid. Palin I would just throw popcorn at.
Sign me up for the ppt.
i wish the republicans would come up w/ better choises.
Palin is a moron. She considers herself international exposed by looking over strait in Alaska to Russia. If America is already hitting down hill, the last thing we want is another Moron elected officer like G.W.Bush II. We need true leadership.
Excellent, another vote for Ron Paul.
who controlled congress under bush?
Looking bad for a deal now by Monday. Expect the market to tank on Monday again. I think it is too obvious that they would pass a bill by Sunday night, so it won’t happen.
Whud up from Quebec!
Canada hates on America pretty hard-core.
French commercials b(r)ought to you via America’s ticker corp.’s plays like treu entertainment.
Now that the transaction finished and I have bought an island with a deep vault located between Nova Scotia and Norway (top secret [READ: only high-net-worth-investors welcome to apply]), I have considered leaving the fat American continent before the global warming thing causes massive looting.
Hope you all survive. Remember: high-net-worth-investor$. Good Luck!
The just talk hate. Half the Canadian population lives within 10 miles of the US border.
True dat…the first 9 miles is full of Americans
Canadian doesn’t hate Americans. Don’t spread rumor as I lived there. On the contrary, they love and kind afraid of Americans as American has largest market and drunk-spending customers.
Come on. Living close to border is not because of loving Americans. It’s just economic and weather choice.
Canadians are more educated and more pragmatic than Americans as a lot of them are first generation of immigrants. American are too spoiled to see the world around them.
Quebec fervently hates Americans. A majority of Ontario Hates Americans. BC is split. Other than Alberta (who are the most pro-American), the rest are of the “meh” opinion.
Quebec likes Americans actually. They just hate Canadians.
To be fare, Quebec is French and has been trying to leave Canada for as long as I can remember.
Different bread of duck there…
This is the d-bag who– just two or three posts back– was pigeon-English slagging Sarah Palin with ancient Leftoid talking points?
Please, entreat le Fly to become a tabbed blogger and further enliven our poor parochial brains with your worldly opinions.
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Now that I’m recently old enough to join the ranks of a US Senator, I salute you Sen. JIG! Your kind suggestion values highly! Hail from God’s favourite Empire State (notwithstanding the South).
Have you seen the comments made about Canada on this site and other American media? It’s a small wonder there isn’t more anti-American feeling there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X9tBjt0DUk
what’s the threshold in he eurozone before it reaches “too big to bail”?
Portugal? Italy? Spain?
i think we r there,
Hey guys, the first 13 posts are reprints from this date last year ……….. I know because I remember writing some of them. You got a glitch in the system.
http://youtu.be/sWTtMdXAazs
Great new iPhone app. Even if they raped you $150/hr. Worth it.
No one wants to take the pain. They would rather see their children, grandchildren, etc… pay the bill.
Americans have for too long been lulled into a false sense of security by relying on the government and entitlements.
I’ve always lived far below my means. It makes me want to puke knowing that my hard saved dollars are being devalued to fund the largesse of government.
Changes will have to be made and promises broken. It will happen one way or another.
ocial Security in My wish list:
1. A flat tax on individuals featuring a floor above which earnings are taxed (abolish corporate taxes).
2. Permanent repeal of the death tax.
3. Elimination of Medicare/Medicaid in favor of health savings accounts.
4. Elimination of S
Fudge 🙁
continued
4. Elimination of Social Security in favor of Individual Retirement Accounts.
I know this won’t happen in my lifetime. Things need to change though so future generations can rely on themselves instead of this ridiculous nanny state.
all depends on how old you are dave. they will do a “tierd”system,havent you heard out of the mouths of these fools,anyone age 55 years or older,”should” be safe, ,well fuck, after 43 years of getting ripped off top dollar for ss,they arent just gonna turn around and tell me,”oh,guess what,well keep what you gave us all these years,in turn,you wont pay in any more,but you have to pay into an account for your “golden years”. …BULLSHIT ! you see what’s been decimated in everyones 401k and ira’s……..here’s a better suggestion,give me back the 212k i put into the system,i’ll even let you slide on the interest that your irs would charge if i owed them 212k,in exchange for, i’ll never have to pay into your ponzi, ever again, and when i’m old and retired,you wont have to worry that i’ll come knockin at your door when i’m old.if we opted to take our coin back now,just think of how much this country could save in the future………. politicians are the “NEW AMERICAN SCURGE” !
If politicians are the new American scourge, then we voters have brought that scourge on ourselves by voting for them.
Politicians can’t give you back the money that you paid into Social Security. They stole it to pay for other programs. The SS Trust Fund is nothing but a bunch of IOUs.
I used to think Health Savings Accounts were a good idea, until I remembered the reason we need insurance in the first place.
Those accounts are only useful if you know your health expenditures ahead of time. Good for paying for office visits; bad for paying for much else.
The bastard children Medicare and Medicaid aren’t necessarily bad models, they’re just too big. They need a massive haircut to covered benefits, predefined covered services, or else taxes on the people who are using them, a.k.a. the middle class and poor.
New Planet of the Apes movie coming out next week , Drummerboy.
saw a trailer,looks hot
Ever see “Freedom Writers” ?
http://youtu.be/ZVF-nirSq5s
First time i’ve heard a Repulican make sense; Tom Coburn from Oklahoma. Treu Gentleman.. I tip my hat to you Sir……
Obama’s going to come out in support of the Republican plan and throw Harry Reid and the senate Dems under the bus.
That’ll be the day….
One of the things the O man was suppose to be was pragmatic, you know, able to look at things objectively and make a logical decision.
He is anything but that. From what he has shown so far he is ruled by his party line and special interests of all stripes. I don’t believe he has ever had an original thought.
Our current political system as structured, does not make it possible for a person to get into office as president or Congress person, who works for the people.
Our government works on a strict ROI model. The Special Interest Groups that “invest” in government through financing campagin get a handsome return on their investment– kind of like if you’d bought Google at $100 a share. Pragmatism is focused only on serving these Special Interest Groups.
Special Interest Groups purchase legislation, or purchase the right to block legislation that might regulate them. No one gets elected without selling their soul to these groups. The voters always get thrown under the bus. Voters’ problems are never considered, much less unaddressed.
All voters get is to listen to corrupt politicians drone on and on about some popular political ideology– whatever ideology the politician thinks will get votes for him or her. Most politicians’ actual belief system, however, is simply a belief in feeding at the public trough.
I don’t know what’s in Obama’s soul, but this is the way almost all politicians function. When we as voters vote for anyone who accepts money from these groups, we are asking for this to happen to us.
So is McConnell Thelma and Boehner Louise or is it the other way around?
Reid and Obama.
They’ve been driving the Cadillac off the cliff since 2007.
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Yeah, let’s forget about the Bush years.
Neither of them is in control anymore, which is why pundits are about to get run the fuck over.
Congressional demographics have not been this different in 30 years. Right verse left is a bad model. It is now right verse center right and far left, with center right opposing left, and left opposing all right.
Makes for a trifecta…
ABC News has learned that Republicans and the White House have struck a tentative deal to raise the debt ceiling before the Aug. 2 deadline. It’s not done yet, but here is the framework of the tentative deal they have worked out, according to a source familiar with the negotiations:
Debt ceiling increase of up to $2.8 trillion
Spending cuts of roughly $1 trillion
Vote on the Balanced Budget Amendment
Special committee to recommend cuts of $1.8 trillion (or whatever it takes to add up to the total of the debt ceiling increase)
Committee must make recommendations before Thanksgiving recess
If Congress does not approve those cuts by late December, automatic across-the-board cuts go into effect, including cuts to Defense and Medicare.
A senior White House aide pushed back against the idea that a deal was struck.
“Talks continue, but there is no deal to report,” the aide said.
Isn’t that special. The deal will fall apart at the last minute. They will come up with a “working” deal, and it will be voted down by congress in the end.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14356532
I lean left on several issues. But, not gun rights.
Can you imagine living in a country, where 2 guys with sharp objects overwhelm an entire CITY?
What is this, “quest for fire” ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSWjkYAjAzA
Lol. “One man with stick overwhelms unarmed populace…”
would love to be back in the “horse and buggy” days.
Do you really smart guys and gals read Joshua Brown? You should! http://stk.ly/rex7bX
thanks, i like to look at as many points of view as i can, but i still think we need to adress the spending issue now! obama has had 3 yrs to come up with a plan,,
I thought the House was responsible for spending … isn’t it their responsibility to develop a plan the the senate and the POTUS will agree to?
u r right but the democrats didnt put out a plan, obama is head of the dem party
yea i have him tabbed on my stocktwits account
ok there r points on both sides of this, but i still dont know any of the details of either side except sound bites from obama, boehner, does anybody have these. 12000 pages worth? so its hard for me to say whos right or wrong…
Why are you reading about Obama and Boehner? This is the guy who holds the power:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/grover-norquist-the-anti-tax-enforcer-behind-the-scenes-of-the-debt-debate/2011/07/12/gIQAPGNSBI_story.html
After this debt ceiling vote and the subsequent rally, I am going to solely invest in precious metals. The risk of investing in anything else is simply too high anymore.
Another interesting articles– although of course, by morning perhaps there won’t be any crisis any more– for the moment. It’s not like we will never revisit this.
The Debt Ceiling Crisis And The Failure Of The Establishment
http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/92941/the-debt-ceiling-crisis-and-the-failure-the-establishment
1 thing i would like to point out is until recently, the dems have controled congress(since 2006), so there!
Moron Bush had a REPUBLICAN House for all eight of his miserable years, a Tied Senate
in his first two years, a Republican Senate ion his next FOUR, and a 51-49 Dem senate
in his last two.
And Spending bills originate in the House. Republican Presidents were in charge
for $11 trillion of our current $14 trillion Debt. And…………………..
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24editorial_graph2.html?ref=sunday
http://www.cnsnews.com/print/62793
i think the facts speak for themselves
Why don’t the Jake Gints ever respond to these facts? Why do they rattle on about “out of control socialism”, and never acknowledge the truly reckless spenders?
Love it. The headlines are reading “Relief Rally Expected.”
Expect one.
Haters are going to love this one…
“Why Obama Won Debt Deal” http://craigcrawford.com/2011/07/why-obama-won-debt-deal/