I was in a house with lots of extravagant and elaborate vases. It was quite gay and somewhat disturbing, considering this man looked like he could break a brick wall with his face.
I’ve noticed, through my adventures meeting people with money, it (money) corrupts their fucking brains. The more money one has the crazier that fucker is, generally.
Some people get extremely cheap and like to play the welfare scene, with 20 mil in the checking account, picking aluminum cans out of the garbage. Others like to flaunt it with lambos and diamonds the size of televisions. Oh, let’s not forget art/rugs. Really rich folk love to splurge on that shit.
Don’t get me wrong: having money is my preferred state of existence. I’ve been through the worst of times and the best, with regards to money. Take me at my word: it is better to be a crazy boat shining rich dude, dancing on the hoods of Ferraris, than living in a housing tenement, with good marbles, in the Bronx.
Generally speaking, poor people lack confidence and accept a low standard of living. They pride themselves on “making a living” or a “decent wage,” providing the job includes fucking benefits. When, as a point in fact, they were not meant for greatness to begin with—so there.
The point of this article is to waste your time, as you now know—albeit in a very entertaining way. Just think about it, you are sitting in your “middle class chair,” waiting for some magic stock picks— and instead get nothing but jibber jabber and/or exteme bullshit. Believe me, “Horatio Clawhammer” aka “The Fly” aka “Plutonium Petey” aka “Senor Tropicana” will bring extreme heat to you fucking blogging faggots in 2009, via ridiculous stock picks. It is my gift. And, The PPT is absolutely incredible.
At the end of the day, there is no other website on the internets worthy of my blogroll, yet I have one anyway.
I am a kind Fly, indeed.
UPDATE: You know things are bad when the recession hits the rap scene.
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How True… We are not worthy
Action speaks louder than words.Have a good weekend Fly.
Reverse snobbery son….are you done with the can man ?
All people possess cognitive ability….(except for asshats on CNBC.)
Whether they use it or not is another question.
You make your own destiny son….
Fly…I’m reasonably sure that your “internet persona”…
…is “schtick”
At least…80% “shock value” for your adoring fans !
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At least…I sure as hell hope that is !
Go buy an expensive rug !
Go buy a boat…and polish it !
Hell…go buy an iPhone !!!
Live a little…life is short !!!
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What? You had marble countertops and backsplashes in your Bronx tenement apaht-ment (sic)?
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Most of you are incoherent. Please translate into English.
Thanks.
Take me at my word: it is better to be a crazy boat shining rich dude, dancing on the hoods of Ferraris, than living in a housing tenement, with good marbles, in the Bronx.
I thought you were speaking from personal experience.
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Im quite disturbed… Fly at midnight thinking about vases and gays.
That is 150% gay.
Did you pay for my fish burrito at lunch today?
No, you did not.
Moving on now to some of that good news economics. You have to rotate the chart 180 degrees, but, once you do that, we have a screaming hot economy on our hands:
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/econo_ns_20090102.gif
Hey, check it.
Your boy Pearlman scrubbed his blog comments.
That’s “douche.”
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Actually I read your blog posts for the jibber-jabber.
Who needs stock picks when there are indices?
Jake, I think the reference to “good marbles” means “not having lost them [the marbles that is]”
But I could be wrong.
Cuervo — what is Fly paying you to be his straight man?
I’ll double it.
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Pearlman is having problems with Disqus,mainly because it fucking sucks.
Phil is a good guy.
Dude, THIS is why I have you in my reader.
the wealthy nutbags that are ‘art collectors’ are the most insufferable of all. i remember when the director of the ibd group of my old firm retired, and he told everyone he was going to ‘become an artist’. all these sycophantic assholes that worked for him pay ludicrous sums of money for his ‘paintings’ that look like something that happens when a child eats a box of crayons and pukes them onto a tablecloth.
“Plutonium Petey”
LMFAO!
Better be miserable with loads of money than be without it.
One who worships the money god will be amply rewarded. One who worships the other God will be stripped naked and left in the streets.
Trust not anyone with money.
Making money is the finest of arts to be practiced.
The most boring man on earth is one who knows not how to make loads of money.
The jingling of money is the most melodious sonata.
No money, no honey.
Money makes money.
Blessed indeed are the money-ed.
Better be a moneysmith than a wordsmith.
No dough no go.
Shut your mouth, open your wallet.
Money always wins.
Money is the root on which every flower blooms.
Unless converted into money, name and fame are not worth a tinkers damn.
I’d rather be “usa poor” and healthy than rich and demented any day.
Greatest set of crumbs from the table ever delivered.
You have lost your mind, Horatio Clawhammer. That’s a new one, no? Nice rhythm to it.
PS – as predicted, thrift store mania is hitting the US
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11365083
Fly. FUCK OFF.
Hoarding wealth is a great evil. Especially when said wealth is obtained by trading paper and concocting schemes rather than creating something or being productive.
Horatio Clawhammer…that is hilarious.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17014.html
“Actually I read your blog posts for the jibber-jabber.
Who needs stock picks when there are indices?”
LOL. As if the original post wasn’t already hilarious enough.
(like Jake says)
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5021V320090104
Chivas, serious question. Aren’t you worried that all this spending is going to be the death of our country?
I like a good rally as much as the next guy, but it seems to me that this plan will do nothing except prolong the inevitable, and it will probably make the inevitable worse.
ARRP? arrrrp …. it’s somewhat melodious.
What concerns me most is that a one trillion dollar piece of legislation could get passed in one week yet there is still “no text or details” yet.
And we elected these idiots who are going to pass it without sufficient review. Excuse me while I go stab myself in frustration.
Wood:
I can’t answer for Chivas, but you ask an important question and I wish to answer for myself.
As I tend to be long-winded, I will make an effort to keep this a reasonable length.
In normal times, all this spending would be the death of our country. In our current situation, this spending might be necessary to prevent a decade of economic depression – a condition that could cause some major breakdowns in international relations, possibly leading to some nasty military conflicts. Unfortunately, we can’t know for sure whether or not the spending is necessary or whether or not the spending will be effective.
For me, the key is what we spend the money on. If we use the money primarily to roll back the clock to 2005 or 2006 for a year or so, so that everyone can resume spending and homebuilding and homebuying as before, kiss your country goodbye. If we spend most of the money on projects that have long-lasting benefits (such as infrastructure, development and commercialization of energy-efficient technologies, alternate energy technologies, faster and more available broadband and wireless internet service, etc), then the spending has an investment effect in addition to a welfare effect. Spending on items with long-lasting benefits also provides justification for saddling future taxpayers with the bill for current spending.
I myself Have always loved whoring I mean hoarding, collecting..gold, silver, vintage vinyl, tube pre amps/amps , high quality weapons and and Knowledge…the last is the most valuable to the astute
Make no mistake I WILL win the oil game via DXO. Betting against oil will prove to be a heavily losing strategy. My theories are starting to be proved via geopolitical incitement and attacks.
http://africa.reuters.com/wire/news/usnDAH452978.html
UPDATE: DEE will soon be a graveyard for infidels.
Woody,
of course i am. the difference between myself and most people here is that i believe that if we do not do this now, our country will be dead. 500 trillion in derivatives, you cannot let nature take its course now. with this amount of debt the implosion would that would result would dwarf the 1930’s economic scene. are we delaying the inevitable? maybe, although i think not. the alternative, like i said, would be total economic collapse.
the line in the sand, the ultimate stand is now not later. this has been the first time in history, that a massive and timely response has been given to an economic, financial crisis. if this kind of timely and massive responce would have occured in the 30’s, then maybe, a global depression would have been avoided. since this is something that has never been seen before, people, should not be so quick to criticise. this bold and massive pre-emptive move is new, lets give it a chance to work. just imagine if it does not.
it amuses me all the cries about our country becoming socialist and all other stuff, hell, dont people realize that after the 30’s experience we started in that direction? the system changed dramatically because of the depression. if this turns out to be worse than that, then the system will change in ways that no one will want to see. you see, Woody, i believe that Devildog’s scenario would come to pass if the worst outcome occurs. the time to try is now, not later. the war must be fought now or else we are doomed. i would want to be DevilDogs neighbor.
Great article in the New York Times (quite lengthy) from Michael Lewis and David Einhorn on the end of the financial world as we know it and their recommendations.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/opinion/04lewiseinhorn.html
“The Fly” is a kind King …….of the internets. …………and wise and benevolent and humble and modest. …….all that type of stuff. On a more somber note, Steve Jobs is said to be coughing a lot.
I mean, you trash on a dude for collecting vases, but when you collect spoons and hair piks (for your perm) it’s a bit like Dennis Kneale calling Madoff a dick, no?
-DT
As my ol’ Grandma used to sy : It doesnt matter if your rich or poor – as long as you’ve got money.
Who’s next?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090104/ap_on_el_pr/richardson
I wonder how many Congressman and lobbyists will be indicted on corruption related charges within 3 years of this stimulus bill passing?
Given its size, I’m willing to bet there will be a bull market in corruption.
hey jake,
i absofuckinglutely did not scrub the comments on my blog and would never do so. the designer accidentally erased them due to a kink she was tweaking. it is a brand new blog dude and there are often kinks to be ironed…
it seems to me that this plan will do nothing except prolong the inevitable, and it will probably make the inevitable worse.
I agree with Shedder. The inevitable will be worse
“The Fly” has a brand new time machine. httt://www.iconaircraft.com
GD,
There has been a bull market in corruption since 1913.
another fed member. not a politician.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXomybLEzm3U&refer=home
Just a trillion dollars? Is that all? We need to get that infrastructure repaired/built. For starters, we can build a one way bridge from China to the US with Mexican labor. That would be a great investment.
Midnight Rider – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0KLt53Tc-8
Oh yeah, I forgot about the old buzzword, ‘jobless recovery’. Anyone? Bueller?
checkout Nova/Ursa ratio : thoughts please.
http://www.schaeffersresearch.com/streetools/market_tools/rydex_nu.aspx
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we’re not recovering shit this year.
here’s the U.S. recipe for growth:
part 1:
give credit to everyone; pick up illegals at home depot; pay THEM to build our homes and send their paychecks back to their families south of the border.
part 2:
pay people $30/hr to build escalades that achieve a lofty 12mpg on a good day; have escalade buyers mail a % of their paychecks to dubai every week
part 3:
PROSPER
yeah. good story.
Private Parts… it means it’s time to start thinking about getting short?
Year end meetings currently being held at an undisclosed company in a secret location:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/1495/saturday-night-live-snl-digital-short-business-meeting-with-rainn-wilson
From Chivas’s article:
Theoretically, that could mean 600,000 new government jobs. But aides say that probably a lot more than 80 percent of the new jobs would be in private industry. And a lot of the government jobs would be state and local workers whom the plan saves from layoffs.
Oh geez, “Whew!” Wouldn’t want any gummint slugs to lose their jobs. That would be a fuggin disaster.
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If we spend most of the money on projects that have long-lasting benefits (such as infrastructure, development and commercialization of energy-efficient technologies, alternate energy technologies, faster and more available broadband and wireless internet service, etc), then the spending has an investment effect in addition to a welfare effect. Spending on items with long-lasting benefits also provides justification for saddling future taxpayers with the bill for current spending.
No, your Democrat Socialist Utopian spending is equally as stupid as “bringing us back to 2005.”
Perhaps more so, as it is top down Central planning — Soviet stupidity.
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HOLY SHITTT!!!
SOSA!! FUGGING UNBELIEVABLE ENDING!!!
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some entertainment
FUMMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAALLLLLL, ‘Queens got it!
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That was a a hell of a shot!
i would want to be DevilDogs neighbor.
Not me. I read Cormac McCarthy’s The Road this past summer.
There’s this part about a house whose owners are warehousing people in the basement… for protein diet purposes.
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@Jake
What would you think would be a better way for the US to work it’s way out of the hole it tripped the world into?
i absofuckinglutely did not scrub the comments on my blog and would never do so. the designer accidentally erased them due to a kink she was tweaking. it is a brand new blog dude and there are often kinks to be ironed…
Yes Fly said you slipped a Disqus.
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Jake,
LOL. the sentence should have been, i would not want to be DevilDogs neighbor.
This post was really dick of you Fly.
LOL good one Jake.
Jake wrote:
No, your Democrat Socialist Utopian spending is equally as stupid as “bringing us back to 2005.”
Help! Help! The Socialists are invading!
Rural electrification
Interstate highway system
Near-universal urban access to clean water and to sewage systems
Universal primary public education
Water reservoirs for the Western U.S.
Jake, I sadly had to stop respecting what you had to say when you started accusing me of using aliases I wasn’t using and when you started defending the qualifications of Sarah Palin. You may not be aware of it yourself, but it is clear to me when you go into partisan/ideologue mode. Once there, you drop all civility and are willing to make ridiculous statements (see “equally as stupid as ‘bringing us back to 2005′”) and defend ridiculous positions (see “Palin”). You cease considering an idea, and instead defend or attack it solely on the basis of whether it lies inside or outside your partisan/ideologue boundary – as if you’d morphed into someone with the intellectual heft of a Dymo label maker.
7:13 p.m.
Japan’s Topix climbs 2.6% to 881.49 in early trading
7:13 p.m.
Japan’s Nikkei jumps 2.8% to 9,104.86 in early minutes
We gonna see big up days if this trend continues in US tomorrow…
The recession has been great for football these NFL’rs are ballin.
Games have been great! Hard hittin.
Jake you get your match up next week.
It’s a good thing Philthydelphia is going to win as I don’t believe McNabb is still up on his overtime rules.
What would you think would be a better way for the US to work it’s way out of the hole it tripped the world into?
Let me guess… Canuckistan, is it?
Don’t fool yourself, foreigner. The “rest of the world” has done an excellent job of screwing itself up quite on its own. Note most of the banks “invested” with Madoff were foreign, and many of their leverage rations (the foreign banks) made Lehman look “pikerish.”
Look to your own socialism, Horatio.
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Ottnot,
You’re petty insults aside, I’m at least bright enough to eschew central planning by political elites.
I’m sure the university in whose white tower you’re ensconced through the socialist glory of tenure has a library. Ask the proprietors there for a volume or two on Eastern European economic history for further review.
And as for your inanity about Palin, Bush, et al: Take your politics and shove them, they don’t explain the idiocy you are recommending.
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Oh, and do some study on “rural electrification” and its benefits versus “opportunity cost” and “government crowding.” Socialism is NEVER better than the private market alternative.
Not ever. Stick to Womyn’s Studies.
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Looks like it’s the Beagles after all for the Giants.
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E A G L E S Eagles!!!!
We is comin’ for ya Giants. You’re next.
The south will rise again, from under a giant pile of pork ribs and buttery biscuits.
” Don’t fool yourself, foreigner. the ” rest of the world ” has done an excellent job of screwing itself up. ”
very well said. all of it.
Piece of the mainstream puzzle:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/177749?GT1=43002
fuck!
@Jake
Don’t fool yourself, foreigner. The “rest of the world” has done an excellent job of screwing itself up quite on its own.
Sure, Canada’s taking a beating right now, the government here is probably going to need to deficit spend after the last decade’s worth of balanced budgets due to the fact that the largest trading here has decided to commit fiscal suicide over the same ten years that Canada’s government has been toeing the line in spending.
It’s a great thing however that Canadian bankers are pretty boring compared to the lunacy going on below the 49th parallel.
So, 09 will probably go to a $10 bln deficit from $5.6 bln surplus.
It could be worse and like what you all are about to go through.
But, fiscal responsibility will out.
I’m sure lots of folks up here are salivating at all the great deals on going out of business sales across the border in the coming months.
A broker friend of mine told me that I was crazy and dumb shorting XOM as it is a safe haven for institutional money. That may be but the institutions have been wrong all of last year. XOM earnings will drop big
“The energy industry will lead U.S. declines, with earnings estimated to drop 29 percent in 2009. Profit at Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp. and ConocoPhillips, the largest U.S. oil companies, will probably fall after the recession sapping fuel demand, spurring a 78 percent drop in crude-oil prices from July’s record.
At Irving, Texas-based Exxon Mobil, the world’s biggest publicly traded company, earnings will probably tumble 39 percent to $28.2 billion, the first decline since 2002, according to a Bloomberg survey of analysts”
I jumped on short XOM at 82 in mid december. Added to the position last week. Its going to $70
I think Ottnott is ‘Merican, no? Not gonna get involved in the political discussion tonight, though, nope not gonna do it.
DSB, that article is unbelievable. Jane Bryant Quinn in Newsweek recommending everyone just give it up and file bankruptcy? I feel like I’m watching a bad movie on SciFi channel in slow-mo.
Canuckistan is already well on its way to killing itself via its’ Cuban-North Korean health care model (ie, “no private practice allowed”).
If it weren’t for it’s “largest trading partner” The Great White North would be in worse shape. And your country’s recent dabbling into Soviet show trial “human rights commissions” that indicate free speech isn’t any longer a high Canuckistanian priority is equally chilling.
But to be expected. Central planning and lack of economic freedom quickly lend themselves to limitations in other more traditional political freedoms.
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Ottnot is American, who claimed otherwise?
I asserted he’s a white tower academic with little real world experience. That’s insult enough, I should think. 😉
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E A G L E S Eagles!!!!
We is comin’ for ya Giants. You’re next.
We’ll have Jacobs this time, and I believe that Manning has been limited to five passes.
This should limit your “opportunities.”
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GO GIANTS
I thought this was rather interesting. One can order Pizza,Burgers, etc.online and have them sent direct to the IDF (Israeli Defense Force) on the front lines (you may have to try the link a few times-it must be early AM snack time there).
Too bad we didn’t have this in Hue or Da Nang in Vietnam War or even in Iraq.
http://pizzaidf.org/
Oh, and do some study on “rural electrification” and its benefits versus “opportunity cost” and “government crowding.” Socialism is NEVER better than the private market alternative.
Lights out, Jake.
Wikipedia, with my bolding:
The Rural Electrification Administration (REA) was an agency of the United States federal government created on May 11, 1935 through efforts of the administration of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The REA’s task was to promote electrification in rural areas, which in the 1930s rarely were provided with electricity due to the unwillingness of power companies to serve farmsteads. America lagged significantly behind European countries in rural electrification. Private electric utilities argued that the government had no right to compete with or regulate private enterprise, despite many of these utilities having refused to extend their lines to rural areas, claiming lack of profitability. Since private power companies set rural rates four times as high as city rates, this was a self-fulfilling prophecy.[1] Under the REA program there was no direct government competition to private enterprise. Instead, REA made loans available to local electrification cooperatives, which operated lines and distributed electricity. By 1939 the REA served 288,000 households, prompting private business to extend service into the countryside and to lower rates.
My own Grandparents and mother benefitted from electrical service brought to them by a local cooperative many years earlier and much cheaper than if they’d waited for private utility companies. Farming communities had been using local cooperatives for many years, so they were willing and able to support and operate electrical cooperatives.
Socialism? Self reliance? I don’t care what label the Dymo spits out. It got the job done and the country benefitted.
Woody said:
“Chivas, serious question. Aren’t you worried that all this spending is going to be the death of our country?
I like a good rally as much as the next guy, but it seems to me that this plan will do nothing except prolong the inevitable, and it will probably make the inevitable worse.”
At least somebody gets it.. This will be the understatement of the century. Truly.
We need a new petri dish
The problem with socialism is, eventually you run out of other people’s money.
@Jake
Canuckistan is already well on its way to killing itself via its’ Cuban-North Korean health care model (ie, “no private practice allowed”).
From a Globe and Mail article August 21, 2003:
The overhead cost of operating the United States health-care system is more than three times that of running Canada’s, and the gap is getting bigger, new research says.
The study, to be published today in the New England Journal of Medicine, puts the administrative cost of the U.S. system at $294-billion (U.S.) per year, compared to about $9.4-billion in Canada. That translates to a per-person cost of $1,059 in the U.S. and $307 in Canada. A similar study, conducted in 1991,put per-capita costs in the U.S. at $450 and Canadian costs at one-third of that.
And your country’s recent dabbling into Soviet show trial “human rights commissions” that indicate free speech isn’t any longer a high Canuckistanian priority is equally chilling.
Show proof of that crazy allegation.
As for human rights commissions wasn’t the US a member in good standing of the Geneva Convention until it was decided that “stronger interrogation techniques” were needed?
Braveflaps is now dead to me.
DEAD!!!
most experts agree that an agressive fed combined with agressive fiscal policy would have either avoided or shorten the depression. as a matter of fact, wikipedia credits massive fiscal spending along with boosting farm prices as important in helping turn the economy in 1933. well, that’s what we’re doing now. my contention is that if this was not being done now, the global economy would have collapse by now or on the brink of collapse. as a matter of fact, it is my believe that letting lehman fail worsen things dramatically. credit markets completely froze and credit spreads went to hell, libor sky rocketed and commercial paper issuance stopped. no one else will fail for now.
i have to assume that the people at the fed are brighter, more knowledgeable, and have access to more timely and better information than anyone here. their actions are screaming their concern. that in itself is the bearish case. i hope that what people think would have avoided or minimize the depression is correct. as of right now that is the bet that i am making.
the concern that at some point in the future we have inflation, BFD. unlike the 30’s we are now a debtor nation. if it plays out right, it might prove to be a blessing for us.
so the question is, hell now or hell at a later date.
my other question is, is one part of hell better than another?
Oh, there it is, then, Wikipedia closes the book for me.
Maybe I was too hasty in my academic categorization.
I do wonder, however — What other services provided by the free market to urban populations should be provided through the munificence of our federal gummymint?
Maybe we could try cooperative farming again? Let’s face it, the Soviets lacked imagination.
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Socialism will be welcomed by the U.S. populace. The average person doesn’t care about ideology, as long as he can get government assistance and life is “normal”.
Americans have no stomach for hardship. We are no longer the great nation we used to be. We have lost our soul and lost our way.
It’s all about comfort. This nation is full of soft, weak, lily white asshats.
When one of the biggest challenges people have is to lose weight, that tells you how far we’ve gone from any resemblance of personal sacrifice and discipline.
Enough. I know this tirade is falling on deaf ears.
@chivas
For the rest of the world the major question is “how does one avoid being suckered into thinking the US can properly plan?”
The reason for the question is that starting in the 80’s the US began moving jobs out of the US and installing itself as the “manager”.
The whole outsourcing phenom is proof in the pudding of this idea – push the grunt work to the second and third world where the cost is cheaper and keep the US management as the “value added management”.
This lead to the myth of the “post industrial service economy” in North America.
Now that the whole lot of business/fund/banker managers have been caught with their pants down and the global markets have lost something like $30 trillion dollars due to the cascading waves of the US economy imploding – can the reputation of the US stand for something other than criminal negligence, if not outright fraud (aka Madoff) ?
Of course the US health care costs are higher. We don’t ration our care, and we provide the best to the whole world — including visiting Canuckistanians.
As for the Human Right Commissions imbroglio (is there a more Orwellian named gov’t group extant?) —
Cuervo — do you even read the papers in your own country?
Maybe you ought to start, before the gov’t take them over as well.
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Juice, Re: “Some Entertainment” Very nice
Cuervo — you’ve been reading too many dimwit bear websites.
The US– and all first world economies — outsources low value added work to areas that can handle that work at a lower cost. This frees the US labor — and intellect — up for doing higher value added work which will continue to increase our standard of living.
This is how basic “classical” economics works, btw. There’s plenty of manufacturing in the U.S. — there’s just not as much manufacturing labor, thanks to automation of intellect.
Welcome to the 21st Century.
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Chivas, thanks for your thoughts.
Woody,
for you anything. LOL. lets keep our fingers crossed. it’s in our best interest.
@Jake,
It looks like my previous comment is being moderated but I would suggest that you provide your allegations of free speech suppression from somewhere other than LifeSiteNews as it’s a pro-life propaganda rag.
Regardless of my opinion about that extraneous (and highly emotional) debate – the source is highly dubious with regards to the context.
chivas makes an excellent argument for the pig men. give those hogs more power.
Only amongst US management is this statement This frees the US labor — and intellect — up for doing higher value added work which will continue to increase our standard of living. accepted as a truth.
Cuervo,
as long as we continue to be;
worlds largest economy
worlds most powerful military
having the worlds reserve currency
consume between 27-30% of worlds goods and services
beacon for democracy
the rest of the world, as always. either with a smile or a frown will continue to deal with us.
i, for one, have nevered cared what the world thinks of us.
i have always assumed that we’re very much disliked. but i can tell you from personal experience, that in no other country in the world, would i have had the opportunity to succeed and succeeded like in this country.
you sound like if you harbor animosity towards this country. if so, why?
Philadelphia is the city of the poor and meek – a regular bunch of losers.
Cuervo — don’t be a douchebag. Look up the case. That was the first link I found on it. It was a pretty big case at the time.
Here’s another from The Economist.
Is that a credible enough source for you, or shall I look for something on Mother Jones?
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Alpha,
i share your concerns.
Cuervo — do you have an actual response to my statement, or just some anti-American knee-jerk response?
Basic economics, here’s a good primer for novitiates: Relatively non-technical, and commons sense oriented.
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you sound like if you harbor animosity towards this country. if so, why?
Since Canuckistan went “full Trudeau,” anti-Americanism has been the mother’s milk of the socialist excuse makers.
Better than taking any responsibility for their own straits, no?
Not unlike a less extreme version of our neighbors 90 miles south of Miami, no?
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Jake, your political analysis is one dimensional (and aptly characterized by ottnot).
Reductio ad absurdum is your primary strategy, and it wears quickly. Further, you retreat to personal vitriol when challenged.
I have yet to see you express any respectful response to an opposing point of view.
Imho, it undermines your credibility on all subjects.
Agreed. Jake.
Hmm it seems that the HRC found the following:
The federal Canadian Human Rights Commission dismissed the Canadian Islamic Congress’ complaint against Maclean’s in June 2008. The CHRC’s ruling said of the article that, “the writing is polemical, colourful and emphatic, and was obviously calculated to excite discussion and even offend certain readers, Muslim and non-Muslim alike.” However, the Commission ruled that overall, “the views expressed in the Steyn article, when considered as a whole and in context, are not of an extreme nature, as defined by the Supreme Court.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Steyn
Is that the tax burden meme talking? I hope so, it almost sounded like the talk radio buzz choking us all fucking to death lol. From the string of profiteers, comes the arrow, with the tip made of wool, and it hits you in the eye..
@Jake
“Full Trudeau” ?
Trudeau left office in 1984.
And I would suspect The Right Honourable Steven Harper would disagree strongly with that categorisation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Harper
alphadawgg Says:
The problem with socialism is, eventually you run out of other people’s money.
Then PRINT SOME FUCKIN’ MORE. Inflation is a GOOD thing.
@chivas
you sound like if you harbor animosity towards this country. if so, why?
Why is it that only in the States that criticism is considered either a) unpatriotic (if coming from a citizen) or b) ‘harbouring animosity’ if it comes from the outside?
I’ve tried to present a view of the US market and economic realities that comes from outside the border because that’s the perspective I have and that I trade using.
For some this is a major problem.
Why?
The US has long championed “globalisation” however, why does an alternate appraisal raise the hackles of “animosity”?
Life in Canada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cr5nWpo9JI&feature=related
Canada — You garner all due respect to one who shows up with a new nom de plume.
(That’d be best characterized as the lower of the traditional binary couplet)
Try coming with some subtantial retort next time. I’m quite familiar with the knee jerk leftist ones. This is not my first rodeo.
“reducto ad absurdium” — oh snore!
If you really seek “respect” — earn it, asshat. Start by limiting the one moniker ambush posts.
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Cuervo — you miss the point twice.
The problem was not with the MacLean’s article, but with the existance of such a fascistic anti-free speech body under the aegis of the Canadian government in the first place.
Do you even remotely get it? Mark that I do not blame you, as there are many Americans who have little clue about basic constitutional (some might call them “natural”) rights.
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Yes, Trudeau left in 1984 (ironic, no?), and he’s quite dead.
Yet the spirit of socialism with which he ruined (not singlehandedly, no) our ally Canada lives on.
Like a fish that knows no other environment, you do not recognize the water in which you swim.
Steven Harper is no Reagan, and you need a Canadian Reagan.
Hell, we need a Canadian Reagan! 😉
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Not really interested in wrestling steers with you Jake, my bulldogging friend.
Happy New Year.
see below as I had to break it into separate comments.
Cuervos Laugh Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Jake,
First of all, I re read the thread and I think your willingness to ask the question about urban co-operatives (as long as there was no irony involved) was probably one of the most insightful questions anyone’s asked for a long time.
I wrote about innovation over a month ago and it’s those types of questions that start the ball rolling.
re: HRC
re: HRC
I quote from the Canadian Human Rights Act:
The purpose of this Act is to extend the laws in Canada to give effect, within the purview of matters coming within the legislative authority of Parliament, to the principle that all individuals should have an opportunity equal with other individuals to make for themselves the lives that they are able and wish to have and to have their needs accommodated, consistent with their duties and obligations as members of society, without being hindered in or prevented from doing so by discriminatory practices based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, family status, disability or conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted.
and without overloading the text box, here is the actual Powers, duties, and functions of the HRC
whereby you would probably have issue with:
may consider such recommendations, suggestions and requests concerning human rights and freedoms as it receives from any source and, where deemed by the Commission to be appropriate, include in a report referred to in section 61 reference to and comment on any such recommendation, suggestion or request;
so, the actual text of the law for the Commission seems much more pragmatic and straight forward than having two constitutional amendments which are at odds with each other as the US has thereby creating a constitutional tension:
The Constitution is aimed at protecting and furthering certain values. Free speech is one of them, but so too are democracy, private property, equality, religious tolerance, and the power of the federal government to wage war effectively. For each of these values, one can reasonably ask: When the exercise of one constitutional right — freedom of speech — threatens to harm another constitutional value, why should freedom of speech necessarily prevail? Why, for instance, should the right of Communists to speak trump the preservation of the many values, including the freedom of speech itself, that Communists would surely destroy if they came to power? 3
I call this mode of argument — identifying certain values that the Constitution protects and suggesting that the Constitution’s free speech guarantee must sometimes yield to these values — the constitutional tension method. It’s not the approach the Supreme Court generally uses today, 4 but it’s one that comes naturally when interpreting a constitution such as ours. In fact, it has been applied many times in our history by adherents of very different judicial movements. 5 The modern arguments that the Fourteenth Amendment’s equal protection guarantee justifies restrictions of bigoted and pornographic speech are the most recent examples of this approach; 6 but the constitutional tension method has a distinguished history dating back to the founding of our nation, and numbering among its adherents such luminaries as Justices Frankfurter and Jackson.
What the modern Capitalist understands and many do not is that in order to maintain a hold on ones money and power, you must have the mechanisms in place to control your environment. The populous must not be so poor and neglected that they turn to revolution. We must have welfare, food stamps, civil rights and healthcare in order to keep order.
Any questions?
Canadian HRC
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc/cs/H-6/bo-ga:l_II-gb:s_27//en#anchorbo-ga:l_II-gb:s_27
US Consitutional Tension article
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/tension.htm
Not really interested in wrestling steers with you Jake, my bulldogging friend.
No worries, that’s kind of what I expected, given your first passive aggressive waste of my time.
Try not to make a habit of it.
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Try to issue your own arguments, Cuervo, and not cut and paste so much.
You are not addressing the main point, which is that the HRC — no matter its original intent — has become a tool of fascists seeking to suppress the free discourse among free peoples, and to guide discourse according to it’s own self defined (and morphing, one would assume) principles.
This, from your above cut and paste, is wrong:
Why, for instance, should the right of Communists to speak trump the preservation of the many values, including the freedom of speech itself, that Communists would surely destroy if they came to power? 3
In a free society, one must risk that ugly ideas may gain purchase. Our only succor — the rule of law is important here — is that such ideas not become entrenched to the point where they are used to cordone the freedoms that allowed them voice in the first place.
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Welcome to the Blog Twilight Zone…
The populous must not be so poor and neglected that they turn to revolution. We must have welfare, food stamps, civil rights and healthcare in order to keep order.
Any questions?
Howabout the most crucial question:
What is the best way to provision such necessities?
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Not so much “cut and paste” as an attempt to “show and prove”.
By using the Mark Steyn case, you also undercut your own argument because it was the CIC that filed a complaint against Steyn and MacCleans in which they argued that there were twenty two articles that had been written which portrayed the Islamic community in phobic terms and a majority of them written by him.
In the States they would have just sued.
Ultimately, the case was dismissed as noted above because the Canadian due process came on the side of free speech, not as an organ of fascism as you seem to claim.
Fuck you Fly. GO suck another rich DICK, you raging HOMO!
this should be read.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111279694652423.html?mod=testMod
Was at the UK/UL game – what a finish! As a UK fan, not exactly what I was looking for..
Anyone have the current short/long position of the commercial/hedge funds? Read where they were extremely short on 12/22
@chivas
hmmmm
As for the business tax package, a key provision would allow companies to write off huge losses incurred last year, as well as any losses from 2009, to retroactively reduce tax bills dating back five years.
Speaking of Canada…there was a New Year’s show here with both Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe (leaders of two of the four main Canadian federal parties) and they were mentioning that they had actually had come to an agreement on something while at the gym. They proceeded to explain that they are members of the same gym and sometimes happen to work out together. The interviewer’s next question was, “So…you’ve seen each other naked?”. The answer was a sheepish yes.
Priceless.
Ok now, sorry for the interruption, carry on.
Was the interviewer Rick Mercer by chance?
Craig,
the 12/29 numbers have not been posted.
In the States they would have just sued.
For what?
Ultimately, the case was dismissed as noted above because the Canadian due process came on the side of free speech, not as an organ of fascism as you seem to claim.
The case was brought to a conclusion because the idiocy of this fascist “non-due process” was brought to the light of day in the U.S. and other western press outlets, and the subsequent opprobrium and embarrassment caused the Canadian gov’t to limit the damage.
Seriously, stop digging. My aim was not to make you look the fool.
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They would have sued just like this CAIR case against Cass Ballenger.
http://www.nysun.com/national/court-throws-out-lawsuit-by-cair/30845/
One notes at the end of the article this bit:
Under the Constitution, members of Congress also enjoy absolute immunity from suits stemming from legislative speech and debate,
which gives the right of elected officials to:
open the door to “gratuitous slander” of private citizens by government officials..
Jake, you are a Tier 1 asshole in the way you argue. I don’t care whether I agree with you or not about any subject but the way you degrade others is pathetic. Learn from Senor Tropicana and get some class.
Asswipe.
http://macenstein.com/default/archives/1906
Macworld’s “One More Thing”: Steve Jobs to be appointed Obama’s Chief Technical Officer?
Never write blog entries when you’re taking a shit. Just look what comes out! Serious bowl winders and brown lariats.
Well at least Jake’s arguments and points of view aren’t obliterated by senseless vulgarity.
Dude, if you think “asswipe” or “donkey cock” is “senseless vulgarity” and at the same time you’re reading the blog of a man who tells everyone to fuck off and go suck Romanian goat cock…. well, you’re just too confused.
Besides, true vulgarity lies in the demeaning way Jake speaks to anyone who disagrees with him.
Bomb Canada and Brooklyn.
I hate it when i hear Canadians talk about The USA negatively, and that goes vice versa.. 2 GREAT countries.
get back to stocks guys.. or start a thread in the PGallery just for yourselves..
Canadian Donkey —
Masticate yourself, you chicken shit. If you think I’m too harsh in my style, you are obviously in the wrong place. Go get yourself a Maple Leaf blanky.
I await — all a tremble — your next name.
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Today 00:29am
(US) Update: Obama and Democrats in Congress are mulling a major expansion of government-assisted health care and jobless benefits – NYT
– The measures would be part of the 2-yr economic recovery program.
Another — I’m in agreement. Upon review, however, you might note that the whole shebang was started by a mistaken arguendo regarding the state of the market.
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did not realize all my relatives were up tonight in this thread!
Fight club!
LOL
So, I’ve been sitting out for a while, watching this melt up. I just can’t make myself get long. Furthermore, I suck at the short side. So, I guess I sit out longer.
That Atilla dude has me a little freaked with his SP650 thing. Only because he’s been calling it pretty right. Any thouhts on this call?
Jakeint
Do you have a subscription to an online thesaurus? Its getting old for those who can sense insecurity..
Sierra
Sierra,
If you are asking whether I will dumb it down for you, the answer is “no.”
However, if you notice, I do occasionally dumb it down.
Not in discussions regarding politics or economics, however.
Feel free to skip those, whatever your “sense.”
Reading’s a wonderful way to increase your vocabulary, btw. Just saying…
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Cuervo’s Laugh: Love ya!
Jake: oh, please. Lay off the jingoism, you’ll go blind. Take your lumps, of bitumen. ‘Canuckistan’ (as you so lovingly refer to your most gullible NAFTA sucker)has been practically giving that shit, and pretty much everything else they have, to you and yours for almost nothing for the last three months without a single bitch. A little gratitude at least would be appreciated. So their so-called ‘socialist’ medical system costs less to operate and provides a wider demographic with decent service; you own a health ‘care’ covering insurance company or something? And they still like the ‘FreeMarket’, more or less. At least Canadians don’t pretend to follow ‘laissez-faire’ until the banks need a 750 billion dollar band-aid. So the TSX passed the DOW last week, so the fuck what? Relax…10 trillion and counting isn’t that bad of a deficit. It only costs the US, what, 53 billion USD/day to service that bitch? Keep printing those greenbacks! You’ve got most everyone fooled, for now. Me? I’ll take any assets owed me by a US company in something heavier, if I can find it.
it is nice to be attacked not for what you say, but the way you say it. carry on mr. Jake.
You people are like little arguing kitchen bitches. I’d punch your fucking chest hairs off if we met in real life.
peace be with you.
Those NY Islanders do suck this year though guys-
Montreal and Vancouver are looking good.
how’s your hockey knowledge jake? Tell me you at least follow hockey….
🙂
i think my earnings are tomorrow
Fly,
Appy polly logies to thee and thine: My rant was uncalled for (who the hell asked me, anyway?) and pretty much a waste of text, though it sure felt good. I am just blathering ’cause I am poised to cash in on a NYMEX Oil Bull 2X ETF right smartly, and I think I am king shit at the moment, the “all being master of time, space, and dimension”, you understand. I am sure it won’t last <>.