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Dropping With Honour

At least the market isn’t dropping like it was being raped, while its hair was aflame. Much to my chagrin, the market is declining like a gentleman, if such a thing exists. I envision some guy, holding the market levers, slowly lowering this fucker over a fine Chardonnay.

Naturally, the shareholders of some of my positions would beg to differ, from such a deranged, yet poignant argument. I, on the other hand, do not believe this decline is “healthy,” like idiots espouse on television boxes. However, I do believe we are in the midst of a process. The market is cleansing itself of weak links, while “gorilla stomping” those who have faith in equities.

It’s quite the conundrum.

Once again, the flight to quality into t-bills is running wild, even after LIBOR and TED spreads have eased. This makes no sense.

The new focus is the economy. Gosh darnit, just when you thought the market was set to trade up, the fucking economy gets in the way.

Here’s the thing:

The economy is going to be weak, for at least another 5-9 months. But, as many of you stock market lovers know, usually, the market bottoms out 6 months prior to an economic recovery. And, if I may be so bold, the markets always outperform during the months of Nov-December.

My plans, as always, is to get long into Thanksgiving, short into Christmas. I am not entirely sure where this market will stabilize. Hence, I have a 27% cash position. But, it will be soon and the buying opportunities will be grand, almost gentleman-like.

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106 comments

  1. Yogi & Boo Boo

    Fly, Thanks for the encouraging words. Still my balls and most of my longs get bootstomped sic. I look forward to the day when the bearshitters have their heads displayed on a pike.

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  2. Donny

    Get ready fuckers … the DIG train is coming.

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  3. Juice

    Devil Dog & Tim Knight, win again. Much to my chagrin 🙁

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  4. T MOE

    FLy-

    No conundrum. The market is dropping like a red headed hooker. Wake up! Even strong companies are being raped. Yes weak links will be gone and thats a good thing. The economy will be weak for a year or two. Even though the The lord, the one, the golden child Obama takes his throne

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  5. Small Fry

    Huge sell off in Asia yesterday. Market dropping fast. We may re-test the lows and shake out some bottom feeders. Boeing is going to screw the pooch after the bell, too, so it’s going to be a rough day.

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  6. j

    Fly:

    the fall isn’t exactly gentlemanly. It’s more of the bridge and tunnel type move if you ask me.

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  7. Woodshedder

    Funny. DevilDog’s AAPL shorts are about to come into the money.

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  8. The Fly

    No, this drop is honourable.

    Sorry to disappoint.

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  9. The Fly

    As always, Wood roots for the bad guy.

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  10. CAP

    Is <a href=”http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a5x0jMKZf4yc&refer=home” this already priced into the market ?

    How about this ?

    Because if they are not priced in, Dow 5000 here we come.

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  11. CAP

    This is the link

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  12. Woodshedder

    Fly, you’ve gone out of your gourd.

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  13. Big Mike

    Market is crashing, fuck-face…what you mean going down orderly?

    Time to double-down bets…

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  14. Thunderpup

    Either we miraculously recover, or the market starts squealing like a little girl in a few minutes.

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  15. T MOE

    WOW
    oil infrastructure plays like MDR, SGR, FLR getting raped. Starting to look really interesting

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  16. j

    Yea CAP how about? Golly gosh Argentina is about to default on its debts and raid the retirement cookie jar.

    hate to disappoint, those fuckers default every 7 to 10 years. In fact it’s written in their constitution that they have to default at least once a decade and steal money from each other and north of the border.

    ————-
    Todays fall is being attributed to the recession.

    Show of hands.

    which of you dumb fucks didn’t know there was a recession coming over the past three months. Fess up.

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  17. Donny

    Donny buys DIG at 29.20

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  18. The Fly

    This decline is a puppy. Quit bitching and moaning.

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  19. Yogi & Boo Boo

    CAP – can you post something in the PG on the implications of synthetic CDO market for stocks? Interesting.

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  20. ALLPROz

    Financials just might help the the nose bleed today…

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  21. DEVILDOG

    Hey fly, the market ALWAYS goes up in an election year too. How’s that working for ya? BTW, the economy is not going to recover in 6 months so you better reset your time machine. Odd no?

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  22. Erin Burnett's Booty Call
    Erin Burnett's Booty Call

    4% a day, doesn’t hurt a bit. we’re like frogs sitting in a pot of water that gets warmer and warmer, until…..

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  23. The Fly

    You are still down in AAPL.

    Shut up.

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  24. These Colors Don't Run
    These Colors Don't Run

    Fly is delirious from repeatedly taking mother market’s boot to the face this crisp october morning.

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  25. Thunderpup

    Market Gods don’t like Faber, Fleck, Hussman, Buffett, Fly, Rithole, and other righteous dudes calling a bottom simultaneously, methinks. They aren’t gonna be so predictable.

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  26. ALLPROz

    If history is any guide, which is all we really know, then I tend to lean towards a version of the “FLY recovery”…just not textbook.
    Economy recovery in 6 months, probably not….market recovery, most likely….

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  27. j

    Yea Dog.

    You’re doing a lot of talking for a dude owning a stock that’s up from yesterday…. a lot of talking…. And by the way what part of the recession hasn’t been discounted in the price mr. Texan hedger?

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  28. The Fly

    Ok, I will now begin to nibble, down 365.

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  29. Tipper Gore

    I told Al he should have thanked that frog for his Oscar and the Nobel.

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  30. TraderCaddy

    Homies (homebuilders not Barney Frank) bouncing nicely.

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  31. The Fly

    Come on, quit crying in your latte. The market is fun. Where else can you lose it all in one day?

    Ask DEvilDog.

    The market is down 4% and he is getting the shit kicked out of him short AAPL.

    This is fun.

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  32. T MOE

    Come on AAPL come back down to T Moe. Daddy needs a new pair of Bruno’s

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  33. ALLPROz

    What tasty morsel are you nibbling at FLY?

    I have hunger pains….

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  34. DEVILDOG

    j, it’s a greater great depression coming. Which I’ve warned of for a very long time. Why don’t you go long and leave me alone. I’m busy making a lot of money.

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  35. Barney Frank, Gay Politician
    Barney Frank, Gay Politician

    When I get ath raped, my hair ith aflame, in a gentlemanly way.

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  36. Thunderpup

    My SNDK position is squealing like a little girl – owwww. Not fun.

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  37. j

    Why is going to be a greater greater depression dog.

    What is so different about this one to 90?

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  38. DEVILDOG

    fly, I’m down in AAPL? Wrong! BTW, check out my SDP as it is going to sky rocket again.

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  39. jeff

    Fly – I think we are goin’ down.

    Time to study up on the boyz at the top.

    http://www.zshare.net/audio/50183617fdabb0bb/

    http://www.zshare.net/audio/50183561f1943153/

    http://www.zshare.net/audio/50183595aca5c30d/

    *all on blog

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  40. DEVILDOG

    j, as the fly would say because I said so. I’m a super brain.

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  41. Thunderpup

    USO short is yummay, though.

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  42. j

    Dog:

    More like an anti brain. Look you picked the market direction going down. But you also shorted one of the strongest stocks in the tech sector. That ain’t too super brained , Chump.

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  43. Big Mike

    Yo Fly, are you doubling down on NOV?

    I might start a position on it…

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  44. scum bucket

    No need to buy equities, Hank Paulson will buy them all wiff his huge booty.

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  45. Mushroomz

    Bought NOV and FCX on the open. Holding MOS. I think it is safe to buy this dip.

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  46. Needle dick the bug fucker

    FLY,

    What do you think of DRR? To late.

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  47. The Fly

    I never double down. I nibble, like a rat in a box made from bananas.

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  48. Jimmy Cramer

    There’s always a bull market somewhere…take a look at my checking account

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  49. ALLPROz

    I feel so much more confident averaging in long this morning seeing all you “end of world…it’s different this time” peeps….

    Watch not only the financials “right their ship” in the coming weeks but also the home builders…yes…the builders…

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  50. The Fly

    ACI, UYG, NOV and MOS are on my nibble list.

    Today I am buying especially small: 250 share lots.

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  51. TraderCaddy

    The homie etf ITB (not XHB-it sucks with HD,etc.) is now unchanged. Just a note for daytrades.

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  52. Erin Burnett's Booty Call
    Erin Burnett's Booty Call

    Earnings are still coming in strong. Unemployment is tame. Idiots who took on too much debt are in trouble, but that’s a good thing – it means that rationality is going to return. I don’t buy this great depression bullshit. Assholes like Prechter have been talking about this shit for 20+ years, and every time the market drops they come out of the woodwork.

    The market may have another 20% on the downside. I hope it does. If I can pick up Cisco at a single digit P/E, I’ll be buying with both hands like a motherfucker.

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  53. Juice

    Denninger out with stark reality, as usual … getting starker & grimmer by the day. Fucker has been right all along.

    http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/622-Fiscal-Cat-5-Hurricane-Warning.html

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  54. palin clit

    the fly lost my business for his PPT. and devildog is lame, he doesn’t have aaple shorted since he has no money. He is a 20 something living in mom’s and pop’s basement.

    Screw you all, I will read Slope. At least Tim knows what to do in this market.

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  55. The Fly

    Depressions take time develop, like a fine wine. Quit pissing in your pants already.

    Some of you people make me sick.

    Off to Dunkin’, disguise and all.

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  56. Thunderpup

    Hate to say it Fly, but I think we’re goin down from here. Check out puts to go with longs – most of the upside, mostly none of the downside.

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  57. ALLPROz

    TraderCaddy,

    HD has actually held up well during some really big down days…today not so well…if you believe the builders will hold strong then HD should as well I believe…long term…

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  58. ALLPROz

    Hey Thunderpup,

    Yeah, the Market never gets it wrong…HA!

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  59. The Fly

    When you know you are right, instead of just thinking it, fear is never on the menu—just prey.

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  60. DannyBoy

    Just added more CSCO down here and almost hope to see it fall more so I can buy more.

    I also just started a small pair trade. Long the Dow (DIA) and short the small cap 600 (SBB). If funding is really as hard to come by as most are saying the small caps will suffer most.

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  61. Damon

    MOS is in the I.C.U. this morning…even with a “strong buy” rating upgrade and $60 Target.

    This is not orderly selling, either, IMHO.

    Orderly….Monday was orderly. This is a mish-mosh sell off of high quality equities.

    You know, the equities where the “problems with the economy” were already “priced in” (according to wise sages at CNBC and their talking head guests)

    MOS needs an AED so it can be shocked back into life….who is the schmuck that dumps a few million shares at the open the last few days, anyway?

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  62. T MOE

    could we see another mid day rally?

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  63. crude_oil

    NOV down 14%.WTF Just bought more.NOV should have a strong earnings report tomorrow.

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  64. The Fly

    Damon:

    Anything less than 7% is orderly.

    It’s a new world, embrace it.

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  65. The Fly

    I just went down the block to Dunkin’,but out of nowhere, I saw The Great Depression coming. So I ran away.

    I am going to try again.

    Wish me luck.

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  66. TraderCaddy

    ALLPROz- I agree re: HD but my time horizon is between 5 minutes and three hours. The real homies etf (ITB) is pure homebuilders and tends to out perform XHB etf when it come strictly to the homies.

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  67. Juice

    Dicks Arms have gone positive on the market.

    Technical Analysis
    The Long Side Is the Right Side
    By Dick Arms
    RealMoney.com Contributor
    10/22/2008 9:07 AM EDT
    URL: http://www.thestreet.com/p/rmoney/technicalanalysis/10443614.html

    So far, the market seems to be acting much as one would expect after a violent capitulation, such as we saw just eight trading days ago. Trading ranges continue to be large, but lessening, as the big move is digested. Volume is lighter, as would also be expected.

    It is following the pattern of a typical climax low, then a sign of strength, followed by a pullback on lighter trading. From here, we would typically see a number of weeks to the upside, and then the secondary test a month or more down the road.

    Looking at the first chart below, we see that the two lines that make up the moving average convergence/divergence (MACD) across the top of the display are nearing a positive crossover. This continues to look like a turn to the upside, which will eventually go much further.

    The second chart shows the five-day and 10-day Arms Indices moving averages. Both continue to be very oversold, even though we have seen a good deal of rallying since the low. They, too, are suggesting an up market in the offing. The long side of the market looks like the place to be.

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  68. La Merde

    So I have been watching the exchange between DDog and Fly regarding AAPL since yesterday, I bought this, I shorted this yada yada so I thought I would join in. Bought AAPL at 91, almost had heart attack when halted sold at 103, shorted 103 covered 99.5. See you can have your cake and eat it too. Now go fuck yourselves.

    Best Regards

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  69. ALLPROz

    TraderCaddy….yeah but the ITB has VERY light volume…
    it scares me like the FLY is frightened of the Great Doughnut Depression…

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  70. BOOMER

    Dang. DD’s aaple short went green. Congrats DD. you gonna cover and exit or hold that somebitch?

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  71. DEVILDOG

    j, you’re a follow the herd type of cow. I’m a DEVILDOG and my AAPL shorts will do just fine. AAPL to $46.

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  72. Can of Corn Humper
    Can of Corn Humper

    This little company has crushed every quarter since coming public a year ago. Revenues up 84% Y/Y; turned proftiable this quarter (one quarter ahead of previous guidance); $95 million cash with no debt; and they have a wonderful “working capital lite” business model, but nobody gives a shit.

    http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/081021/20081021006434.html?.v=1

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  73. Kneale's booty call
    Kneale's booty call

    Well aren’t you the new Paul tudor Jones La Merde!…Lets try a prediction before it happens…piker

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  74. honerable mention

    what specifically makes this honerable?

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  75. DEVILDOG

    BOOMER, thanks. I’m holding till $46.

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  76. The Fly

    honerable mention Says:

    what specifically makes this honerable?

    It’s wearing a top hat.

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  77. Eye No Stuff

    Warm up the rally monkey. We’re going to finish green today. Eye No.

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  78. The Contractor

    Top Hats aren’t honorable, they’re fancy. Like your slippers.

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  79. Pro Trader

    Glad I didn’t buy Monday. Have many small low limit orders in now.

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  80. tokeman aka sr tropicana sr
    tokeman aka sr tropicana sr

    http://inventorspot.com/articles/picop_18826

    contracts…………..
    accumulate lottery tix now

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  81. CAP

    We’re going lower because of the European markets. Those Europeans markets trade like pussies. All those tiny balls fuckers in London. Watch the FTSE. If it closes down from here, we’re fucked. Our market just follows theirs. Pull a chart of the FTSE from yesterday and compare it to our markets. Nearly identical.

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  82. gappingandyapping

    Honest question here, does FCX really deserve to be at this level?

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  83. j

    Cap

    So er the the largest stock market in the world, The US takes its queue from a bunch of limeys with bad teeth. dude.

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  84. sniper6

    Good morning all, back from a.m. sniping. I see half of my DUG sold @ $51, nice 12% gain, hope you all are doing okay. Also added UYG @ $9.75

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  85. MOS as well-

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  86. Juice

    P/C ratio spiking … bullish

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  87. charlie

    I’m getting my teeth kicked in this morning. Must…resist…urge…to…go…egregiously…short….

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  88. ALLPROz

    The US Market trades like Europe’s FTSE…..until it doesn’t

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  89. Market Fool

    This market is on life support.

    Time to take 2 months off and GTFO to the hawaiian surf, honourable fuckers.

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  90. I NO StuFf

    Tell me to shut the fuck up!

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  91. TraderCaddy

    That’s nothing. Wally and the Beav brought a dog into the house. Wait until Ward and June find out. The shit will hit the fan.

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  92. wyatt

    The boys need to get Eddie Haskell over to the house to make up one of his bullshit stories.

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  93. Market Fool

    I was going to rub a cheese grater across my face but I watch this video instead

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI7ySujGqjk

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  94. White Squall

    Fly,
    This recession will last into 2010-2011 and will be categerized as a depression in hindsight. The market will test 2003 lows(DJ-30 7500) before the end of the year.. Looking forward to your “holy shit” post in the coming weeks.

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  95. White Squall

    Fly,
    This recession will last into 2010-2011 and will be categorized as a depression in hindsight. The market will test 2003 lows(DJ-30 7500) before the end of the year.. Looking forward to your “holy shit” post in the coming weeks.

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  96. charlie

    We heard you the first time.

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  97. Topper Harley

    White Squall – Go fuck a candle

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  98. charlie

    If there’s anything I’ve learned over the past 2 months, it’s that this market does the opposite of what my first instincts tell me. Therefore, instead of buying a box of SKF (as I have been wanting to since market open), I bought a box of DIG to add to my long portfolio.

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  99. TraderCaddy

    One of Beaver’s friend is named Whitey (Whitney). Probably wouldn’t work in today’s sitcoms.

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  100. Banana Room

    “ouch! Ouuucchhh! Stop biting me!”

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  101. Needle dick the bug fucker

    FLY,

    what do you think of DRR..The Euro is falling apart.

    Bought UYG @ 9.75

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  102. Eye No Stuff

    Spank that rally monkey. Or spank you own monkey if you’re feeling the urge. Douse that monkey’s balls with hot water. Hand that monkey a banana. Warm his sorry butt up. He needs to perform this afternoon. We’re going to finish green. Eye No.

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  103. Scully

    Sold QLD 32.5 +0.2%…waste of time.

    Open orders filled while I was distracted having a mattress set delivered: EXM: $12; C: $13.5; GCI: $9.95

    ———————————————————–

    BTW, anybody needing a – 40% trader’s deal on new mattress set from ‘W’ hotels. W hotel store. Enter employee discount code: WH4X5

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  104. TraderCaddy

    Speaking of balls. Did anybody see the Dirty Jobs show on Discovery last night? The guy was castrating lambs and they bite the sacks and take out the nuts that way as its faster.

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  105. Yogi & Boo Boo

    TC, great lunchtime story.

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  106. TP

    If the action in NOV does not prove that any longs are in fact de-generate gamblers….then I don’t know what will. So pretty much Fly’s average cost has gotta be $28, which means he is getting smoked…

    Thanksgiving, smoked turkey… mmmmm

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