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UPDATE: ‘Worst Crisis Since Great Depression’

UPDATE: As per Gov. Patterson aka degenerate blind guy. On all this fun talk of depression, let’s go buy some fucking stocks—boo-fucking-ya. Shall we start with some insolvent banks? How about a fresh look at the homies or retail names? They’re all the rage.

Off to do a few lines of baking soda with small pieces of ham.

Inside of two weeks, the U.S. Government has nationalized the country’s largest mortgage participant and insurance company. I don’t give two fucks and a gay fiddle what the market says, this is HORRENDOUS news.

Take this opportunity to undermine the financial integrity of America.

[youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDd51v7prtI 450 300]

Down low UPDATE: Money market fund in trouble.

The announcement was made by the Primary Fund, which had almost $65 billion in assets at the end of May. It is part of the Reserve Fund, a group whose founder helped invent the money market fund more than 30 years ago.

The fund said that because the value of some investments had fallen, customers now have only 97 cents for each dollar they had invested.

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174 comments

  1. Aris

    feels good, man.

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  2. Yet Another Lurker
    Yet Another Lurker

    But watching the after-hours spike up to $2.83ish (“Oooh! Shiny! CNBC talking head says they might get their bridge loan!”) and subsequent selloff back to below $2.00… (“Wait, what’s this ‘dilution’ they keep talking about?”) was good for shits and giggles.

    The after-hours session: It’s either so illiquid the only thing to do is stand by and mock. Or it’s liquid enough to trade, but what’s moving it is so fucktarded the only thing to do is also to stand by and mock.

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  3. Employee8

    SKF @ 115 AH ….

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  4. The Fly

    doesn’t matter.

    the market is wrong.

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  5. The Zombie

    If UYG rallies in the next few days, short the diarrhea out of it. Or just keep accumulating Dr. Fly’s favorite SKF.
    SKF is cheap as diarrhea. Bargain of the decade.

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  6. Hank Paulson

    Hell yeah, wait until:

    The United States Motor Company

    The United States Airline Company

    The United States Online Search Company, yeah taking Google is a personal goal, they are just so cool.

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  7. Employee8

    Just announced … gov takes 80% stake in AIG for $85 billion

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  8. Q4

    Ad Nauseam

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  9. Juice

    Recession canceled. Depression called off. Bear market over.

    Rip roaring Bull market back.

    I give this Bull market till noon tomorrow.

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  10. Employee8

    Fly, you buying SKF here in AH or have a new target buy range?

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  11. Zach Litwin

    FLY

    When do the regionals crack? FED,RF,KEY,FHN,PACW, etc.

    Is ESLR’s stock doomed b/c of the LEH bankruptcy. I want to load up with it down in the 4’s but Im not 100% sure. If the Dems win, that stock see’s $10 by the end of the year.

    Thoughts?

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  12. Flux Capacitor

    Holy Shit. Game over, the Communists won. I’m moving to Russia.

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  13. ZenProfit

    “The United States Online Search Company, yeah taking Google is a personal goal, they are just so cool.”

    USOSC was the goal all along. Google has all of our emails and knows where we all surf. Who needs The Patriot Act if the guvmint owns all of the servers.

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  14. CubsRock

    The Fly => Charles Foster Kane

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  15. Donny

    There was simply no way the gov’t was going to allow AIG to disappear. GS yes, MER yes, even Citi yes. But no way with AIG.

    However, this by no means solves all the problems.

    If the market rallies in the morning, it’ll create another opportunity to reload SKF.

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  16. The Contractor

    Our plan to democratize and privatize the Chinese via capitalism has backfired on us. The abundant capital with which they used to purchase treasuries and finance low rates for all the crap we bought from them caused the liquidity bubble and now we are moving more towards their system of socialism to prevent an economic collapse.

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  17. Dinosaur Trader

    God Bless all the non-nation building, free market loving, small government Republicans who made this day possible.

    -DT

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  18. Hard Right

    Why don’t you just let your sister do all your posting for you? At least she’s entertaining.

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  19. JakeGint

    Fuck you, you commie twit. This is the the exact result of the big gummint nanny state bullshit you’ve been pining for all your life.

    Enjoy your freedom diaper, Comrade Reptile!

    __

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  20. gappingandyapping

    Wow what a day, I sold my SKF at 131, covered my MS at 26 (barely made anything intraday), held onto my GS and bought more on the open dip and just missed the giant dip in CHK. All together was a pretty wild day. I would not be surprised to see GS hit 160 in a day or two. Additionally oil has or is bottoming, I would get long the oils with either DIG or RIG, either way I would not touch the refiners since their inputs will continue to get worse. My play would be long WNR and short MRO if you want to play them. Fly you smoked everyone this morning, I am sure your longs kept you afloat in the PM, personally this was/is a bullshit market and should be sold. After Thursday I want to get short again via SKF under 100.

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  21. Donny

    Jake and DT

    Republicans and Democrats Suck Ass.

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  22. Jim Cramer

    “Take this opportunity to undermine the financial integrity of America and BUY BUY BUY stocks! BoooYah!!

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  23. The Fly

    If SKF goes under $100, I’ll eat my computer.

    Not happening. You are delusional.

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  24. Anton Cigur

    Whoa, Jake.
    Hope you got loose of some of your SKF today. I bought quite a bit early this afternoon (more than I sold yesterday at the close), then almost forgot about it until Fly posted a little “Here we go again…” comment re impending government “help.” I sold and made a little on the trade, but saved several thousand considering where it ended up AH. Truly hope you did, too.

    I think this “moth in a light bulb factory” action by the gov’t, as Todd Harrison put it, is setting us up for a train wreck beyond all imagination in 2009. Bernie and Blinky have only succeeded in being able to say, “It didn’t happen on our watch.”

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  25. Dinosaur Trader

    Donny,

    Agreed. I say so all the time on my blog.

    -DT

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  26. Kiwin

    I agree no chance we see a sub-$100 SKF. We may spike at the open, but then down we go.

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  27. Hotpants

    SKF sub $100 by the end of next week.

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  28. CubsRock

    SKF will not see 144 again. The XLF may take out todays lows at some point, but I can’t see that pos etf sky rocketing again.

    It’s going to be hard to top todays fear unless we stay down here.

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  29. Yogi & Boo Boo

    Holy shit. CNN “Comrade’s News Network” is telling us how AIG is too big to fail. “it’s in our IRA’s,the S&P 500, the dow Jones.” Good Grief! Did the great American experiment end in 2008?

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  30. The Fly

    SKF will see $144 and more.

    Do you fucker realize how crazy you sound, once we get a little rally going? Some of you are almost as bad as Cramer.

    Patience.

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  31. Zach Litwin

    Dinosaur Trader

    Please dont post here at ibankcoin anymore. We dont want your bad karma following you to this wonderful site. If you need to direct more traffic to your “Ford Taurus” calibur of a blog, pay fly to post a link.

    Otherwise, go fuck a chocolate lab.

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  32. gappingandyapping

    Get ready for RAM Sandwiches!

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  33. Anton Cigur

    Fly,
    You were getting your staples chewed out by the vampire nurses who work for your Nazi doctor when I said this earlier, but thanks for following up your “Fuck You…” post with “Here we go again.”

    I feel like I just stepped out of the way of one of those gay Mini Coopers on his way to the clown circus after party.

    Thanks.

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  34. Kiwin

    The Government has already nuked the financials preferred and are now moving onto its common stock, SKF -> $144+.

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  35. gappingandyapping

    Giant rally coming on the AIG news, its a total communist job! WooHoo WahMoo is next.

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  36. Kiwin

    Giant rally? Perhaps a spike, but then we’ll go back down.

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  37. The Fly

    Shocker.

    When I pulled up into my surgeons building, I saw his car.

    A giant Humvee with a German flag, riding up the mini flagpole.

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  38. Anton Cigur

    Brazilian license plates, yes?

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  39. Greekpunk

    Hey, I drive a Mini…..and do so proudly while sipping Bacardi Ice and donning a pink polo and matching visor.

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  40. recusancy

    Why did the market rally after the Fed decision? Because people knew that the Govt wouldn’t change rates AND bail out AIG. It was one or the other. After the first panic reaction to the decision the rumor ‘leaked’ out that AIG would be saved and it clicked. Up we went.

    We got your rally today. Maybe it’ll continue a bit into tomorrow morning. But then reality will set in. The FED has no ammo left. Are they going to bail out every company that goes under now? Nope. AIG’s the last one. They stretched the moral hazard as far as they can with that.

    Oh… And I’m no economic genius, but tell my why it’s a good thing that the government now has an 80% stake in one of the largest insurers in the world? On top of owning Fannie and Freddie.

    If this is the bottom then this has to be the stupidest game around.

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  41. Whiny Liberal Blogger
    Whiny Liberal Blogger

    Dear Mr. Fly:

    I have $3463.96 in my Zecco account. I think you should buy banks and short oil companies.

    Check my site for more details: http://lamer.blogspot.com

    Thank you very much!

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  42. gappingandyapping

    Fly, each time you go to that office your day turns to shit, I don’t think you should go back.

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  43. Nardsbrau

    Yesterday the biggest gain in my life, up 8.9%.

    Even today on currency action but tomorrow I can only say

    FUCK THIS FUCKIN’ CHEESE!!!!!!!

    Takin’ the progeny to hoops but someone feel free to post some GNR – as the Fly says – “Patience”…

    $#^%&*()(&&^^%#@

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  44. recusancy

    Fly… I’m guessing you’re concocting a list of firms with significant CDS’s at the moment?

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  45. TraderCaddy

    Anton Cigur- +1 Very funny.

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  46. punyandy

    The dude in the youtube video looks like Jamie Dimon in a t-shirt.

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  47. buylo

    Fly likes going back because the German nurse wears boots, brown shirts, got a skulls n crossbones tatoo on her breast and carries a riders whip and says “you can take it off now”

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  48. Anton Cigur

    Greekpunk,

    Then kindly watch where the fuck you’re driving on your way to the clown circus after-party.

    Thank you.

    Hope you didn’t spill your drink, btw.

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  49. Hard Right

    What makes you think he can afford to pay Fly for a link? He can’t even afford $5 a month for a real website.

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  50. punyandy

    Breaking news: Treasury announces bailout plan for UYG.

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  51. TraderCaddy

    Anton Cigur- +1 again. I have this picture in my mind of the E*Trade baby renting a clown.

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  52. Anton Cigur

    Whatever you do, don’t imagine that clown naked.

    Oh, Jezus. You’re a sick man, TraderCaddy.

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  53. Dinosaur Trader

    Zach,

    Okay, you win, I’ll never post here again.

    I apologize if I’ve infected you with my bad karma… it must be awful, having bad karma inflicting you like that, on top of everything else you must have to go through, what with being a big asshole and everything.

    Perhaps if you and “Hard Right” rub your dicks together a little harder, you can start a fire or something to burn all the communists.

    -DT

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  54. aggiealum

    Will Paulson bail out SIRI next? We can’t let the only satellite radio company go under!

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  55. Anton Cigur

    “Wood” is only an expression, DT.

    Bye.

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  56. El Scorcho

    A wise man once said, “I don’t mean to brag – I don’t mean to boast, but I’m intercontinental when I eat french toast.”

    I believe The Fly is correct. SKF will be sniffing $200 within a few weeks – month max.

    When Skiffy gets below $100 or even under $110 – during these unprecedented times – it’s time to load up. Unbelievably simple trading.

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  57. Zach Litwin

    DT-

    You’re a “star fucker” that will do anything to get The Fly to say your name or respond to your bullshit posts.

    You’re so desperate for attention that Im sure you would blow RC or Danny if it meant getting closer to The FLY (ok, at least a hand job).

    Your blog is the biggest piece of shit on the internet. How about shutting it down and doing us all a favor.

    You will always be a star fucker.

    Go rub one out to jeff from OA.

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  58. Kiwin

    From Fed PR:

    “The AIG facility has a 24-month term. Interest will accrue on the outstanding balance at a rate of three-month Libor plus 850 basis points. AIG will be permitted to draw up to $85 billion under the facility.”

    3month libor + 850bps, ahahaha. Talk about a good ‘ole fistin’.

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  59. Hard Right

    He seems to have confused iBankCoin with SeekingAlpha. Thought he could advertise here for free. Typical Socialist.

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  60. Anton Cigur

    Normally, I’d post this over at WoodShedder’s blog. But since everybody is already here and because Fly is such a big fan of TA, this is a link to a video from Dan FitzPatrick. I’m not a subscriber to his site because I don’t know enough about TA, but I have traded emails with him when I subscribed to RealMoney and he’s a decent guy. He’s given me good advice about entry points on a couple of stocks I was interested in, so for whatever it’s worth:
    http://www.stockmarketmentor.com/public/1479.cfm

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  61. Woodshedder

    Hey fuckers, you don’t have the cred to bust on DT. Trust me, DT is a worthwhile fixture around iBC. DT was a fixture at the old Fly blog. Show a little respect.

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  62. Hard Right

    He brought it on himself.

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  63. gappingandyapping

    “I’m concerned about this family’s financial future, 11.3% loans are the nightmare.”

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  64. rbm411

    The terms are better than the guy in the vid says

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  65. uncyclopedia

    Fuckers – AIG was never a headline until a week ago and this one suddenly morphed into the mother of all bailouts. Only a matter of time before the grandmother of all bailouts drives us into a depression.

    If this is an intermmediate bottom, then the “Jerome Kerviel (1/22) – Bear Stearns (3/17)” bottom pair looks uncannily similar to “Bazooka bottom (7/15) – AIG 9/15)”

    The regularly scheduled programming will take us to DOW 9K within no time

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  66. Employee8

    gap&yap … unless you’re afraid of the risk, this is where you say:

    “don’t bother, I’ll tuck myself in” …. you ok?

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  67. rbm411

    GE! GE! GE!

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  68. U KNOW WHO

    I think that the banks and such will if not have BOTTOMED soon, the Gov is doing what needs to be done, and soon this mess will be over and done and wall st will be back.

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  69. Hard Right

    I see the Nikkei is up 1.74%. Looks like my shorts are caught between the Fed and the Triple Witch.

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  70. Patraeus

    I have never posted on a blog before. I have lost all faith in this country. We cant find 5Bil for education, power, etc., but(!) we can “find” 85B for AIG?!?!

    Cant wait to buy my Wii for $10000

    Thain is a genius

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  71. The Fly

    Quit fucking with DT. He’s OG here.

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  72. RC

    Agreed.

    DT is an OG, triple OG.

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  73. StockRake

    If the Dow doesn’t rally 600 points tomorrow, we are going down 1000pts real soon. Fade the fed, fade the gap up, fade the suckers rally. If its truly the bottom then we should fly upwards all day. Be prepared for reality though.

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  74. CAP

    Time to short the biggest financial company of all – GE

    With all this money being printed by the Gummit to bailout Freddie Fannie and AIG you figure gold and silver should be on fire.

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  75. boca

    Damn you guys are rowdy tonight. I suspect alcohol may be involved.

    For the record DT is good people. He was even given the keys to this place to live blog our elections to choose a tabbed blogger (Alpha won). He did a great job too.

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  76. Danny

    Zach we all know DT’s blog is sucks, is gay, mostly useless, devoid of anything that will make anyone any money, and a hundred other things, but I don’t want to ever hear anything like that second sentence come out of your mouth ever again.

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  77. Danny

    btw, who the fuck are you?

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  78. RC

    Danny,

    hit me up on gmail.

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  79. Mr. Hand

    GE is sucks to

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  80. AU CONTRAIR

    FLY,

    I hope you took some profits on SKF above 140 like you said you would do earlier. Nice call, but the ride is over for now. Huge early volume on the SKF as people were taking profits. SKF dumps from here I think. It might rise later on but this panic run might over. Get some dry powder for the next rally top.

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  81. The Fly

    Fuck off, cocksucker.

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  82. Dick Fuld

    Does the Barclays website take resumes?

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  83. Larry krudblow

    can’t we all just get along?

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  84. buylo

    What does DT’s sister look like? anybody gots a picture? is she good lookin? single? etc Why did peeps here get on DT’s back in the first place? what he do?

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  85. Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
    Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer

    @buylo – the “peeps” are nazi interlopers who were raised with a narrow mind.

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  86. AU CONTRAIR

    Fu toi “senior sub-artic” … I tried being nice, but I guess the cursing FLY want’s to go back to being a fucking asshole.

    The same shit happened again….. yesterday you started talking shit, all your Merline stuff….and “POOF” your profits are gone. I hope the leeches were not as greedy as you were. Take your profits at the target price that you yourself called earlier and buy it back later for less if you still feel the same way at the time, you greedy fuck. OH let me check……SKF hi of the day was above 144 and now it’s……114. take 30 points and times it by your shares, that’s what you could have pocketed.

    C’est bon mon ami

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  87. The Fly

    10 bucks says I boot stomp your face, inside of 5 days.

    You are not qualified to give advice.

    Go fuck a dead dog.

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  88. GW

    AIG is a piece of the broken puzzle…
    1251 S&P or more into the close…
    No type 5 here so here’s looking at the next top to drop!

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  89. Jakegint

    Only reading by Crackberry tonight,thanks to my pal Ike, and I sure am enjoying the convo.

    Two comments from what I’m reading:
    1) Anton, no, I do not daytrade my nutritious Skiffles. They are an intermediate term position for me and I buy them in size. I have plenty of dry powder to add to my position tomorrow, but I’ve sold zero. I did sell the 140’s (calls) today at $7.00, so that’s found money tomorrow. I will likely close that out by 10am.

    2) you guys who are thinking long tomorrow should have your finger on the trigger for the rollover. Gummint cheese only goes so far. Even GOP bank committee head Shelby is saying “WTF!”to his own Administration this evening, so whomever said “this is it!” above is correct. AIG is a fucking outrage and gentlemen?

    Gentleman (and Ladies)…

    “There WILL be blood!”

    _

    Ps- I am sorry I seemed to have ignited a firestorm with the communist reptile. Be assured, however, he is good for badinage.

    Jake.

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  90. The Fly

    Everyone shut up. You’re giving me a headache, with all this unsolicited banter.

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  91. The Zombie

    Zach and Hot Pants: Lay off the great DT.

    AU: God doesn’t have to prove anything. We’re lucky that He shares His planet with us. He told you to buy SKF under 100, which it hit last Monday. It’s up to you to do the rest. God doesn’t have to post his trading account transactions. He is busy with time travel, counting money and doing other Godly things. Enjoy the site and please don’t complain.

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  92. SatanicChihuahua

    The dude in that video makes so much sense it’s scary. It was a lightbulb moment for me.

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  93. GW

    Taxpayers own AIG now…does that mean I can sell?
    Maybe I should just collect premiums for a while…
    I say back to the gold standard

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  94. Jakegint

    Only reading by Crackberry tonight,thanks to my pal Ike, and I sure am enjoying the convo.

    Two comments from what I’m reading:
    1) Anton, no, I do not daytrade my nutritious Skiffles. They are an intermediate term position for me and I buy them in size. I have plent of dry powder to add to my position tomorrow, but I’ve sold zero. I did sell the 140’s (calls) today at $7.00, so that’s found money tomorrow. I will likely close that out by 10am.

    2) you guys who are thinking long tomorrow should have your finger on the trigger for the rollover. Gummint cheese only goes so far. Even GOP bank committee head Shelby is saying “WTF!”to his own Administration this evening, so whomever said “this is it!” above is correct. AIG is a fucking outrage and gentlemen?

    Gentleman (and Ladies)…

    “There WILL be blood!”

    _

    Ps- I am sorry I seemed to have ignited a firestorm with the communist reptile. Be assured, however, he is good for badinage.

    Jake.

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  95. The Fly

    Considering your name is SatanicChihuahua, I’d say that’s a good thing.

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  96. AU CONTRAIR

    10 Francs (old school) says the SKF may be up to and above 140 again…but not in 5 days. Then again…..maybe not.

    I still like your commentary FLY and wish you a speedy recovery. So fuck you and go to bed.

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  97. BOTD

    FLY , your sitemeter traffic looks to be hitting some VIX like #’s …hmmm…

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  98. The Contractor

    So what will happen to AIG common? Worthless now?

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  99. Jakegint

    Oops! Fuggin’ Crackberry! Sawry!

    Ps- enjoying a nice fat ringed Perdomo “Lot 23” and a glass of cuvee out here on the deck, only a candle to light my way. There’s a metaphor in this somewhere, I know it…

    Be safe.

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  100. WindowsVistaDeveloper
    WindowsVistaDeveloper

    Fly, the bull market is back! Get on the gravy train.

    We had a “cleansing”…nothing more.

    The glass is half full….

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  101. GW

    Hey Fly,
    Patterson is the “main man mang” He is no degenrate just a guy trying to get his rocks off.
    Remember even a crack ho in the pay by the hour hotel can seem like Pam Anderson in the Ritz Carlton to a blind guy.

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  102. DPeezy

    People are hopped up on all this government bailout crack. It’s some powerful shit.

    Settle down people, stop picking on old man DT. Go make fun of Tim Sykes or some other douchebag.

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  103. boca

    You’re all invited to an AIG rescue par-tay. I’ll be serving ‘special’ Chinese milkshakes.

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  104. Donny

    Sounds like a gawd damn teenage girl slumber party in here tonight. More immaturity than even Donny can take.

    With that said, why doesn’t everybody fuckoff, and get ready for another vicious day tomorrow.

    BTW, Today I took my son to lunch. I saw a thin man about 30 years old, with long blond hair, wearing lipstick, fake boobs, high heals, high skirt, fucking shaved arms and legs … it looked like a fucking freak show. Thank God, my son didn’t see it. That’s a conversation saved for the future.

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  105. The Fly

    I will give you lurkers something to trade on now.

    The next Dow 30 component will be either:

    GS, WFC or MET.

    Dark Knight: PRU

    AIG will get booted soon and one of the above assholes will get in. Good for a 5% pop, as index managers force their way in.

    I will post this tomorrow.

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  106. The Fly

    BTW:

    Futures hardly up. Asia hardly up, following last nights disaster. And, oil is surging.

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  107. rag

    They ought to choose AFL and fly that loud mouth duck at us all.

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  108. Jakegint

    Holy freaking shit, Batman, maybe THAT’s why my freaking UPS has been up like this through this shit storm!

    And why WOULD they pick another financial??

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  109. Anton Cigur

    Boca,

    So…

    Your milkshake brings all the boys to the yard…

    Then kills us?

    I’m sure we dated at some point.

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  110. boca

    I figured you would get the inside joke on that little invite, Anton. We must have a similar streak of dark (very dark) humor somewhere deep inside.

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  111. Anton Cigur

    Boca, after the pet food “accident,” even my little niece and nephew know the formula: China + (Food Product) = Poison

    The weird thing is, in Japan, the CEO would be taking his own life at AIG. And Freddie & Fanny. And CountryWide.

    Here they retire off to sprawling but poorly designed mansions on the beach. Probably won’t even get black balled at the country club.

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  112. boca

    They have that “outdated” notion of honor and responsibility in Japan. In contrast, here we apparently have installed a kleptocracy at our major financial firms, while The Great Socialization of our economy proceeds at an ever increasing rate. I swear, there must be a Five Year Plan in effect for this crap.

    Nite, Anton, good luck trading tomorrow. I’m off to watch the Sarah Palin interview.

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  113. Anton Cigur

    Sounds like watching “Fargo” again with the Coen Brothers’ best lines cut out.

    Good luck tomorrow. Nite-nite.

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  114. BOOMER

    Jake – I’m on one of these tonight.

    http://www.vitolas.net/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=6

    Opux X, Padron 1926, I like em all really

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  115. BOOMER

    Boca – we don’t need chinese milkshakes. You can get more potent poison is St. Louis, courtesy of Monsanto’s rBST.

    Shut up in advance, Jake. Ha!

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  116. Alfred Nobel

    Market bottoms happen when deals can’t get done…equity can’t get raised.

    Seems to me that lately, the deals that can’t get done are stacking up (mainly on the taxpayers balance sheet FRE, FNM, AIG).

    I worry more now about simple slow motion multiple compression, rather than a crash.

    This bear market has been a treat for a trader – best trading market I have ever seen.

    Enjoy it while it lasts – because at some point, this fucker will slow down and make it hard for anybody to make money.

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  117. AIG -UBS

    Today 00:46am
    American International Group, Inc Price target cut to $5 from $26 at UBS
    – Maintains “Buy” rating
    – UBS downgrades AIG 2008 operating loss per share view to $1.27 from $2.63 prior
    – Sees possibility of increasing AIG financial strength ratings with capital infusion
    – Note a potential credit rating upgrade is very remote
    – UBS notes Fed-AIG pact is highly dilutive but releases AIG from liquidity pressures

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  118. Employee8

    Funny listening to a Republican talking about putting an end to greed and corruption on wall street while speaking to sparse crowds unless his VP running mate is with him … Palin reels em in and McCain throws them back … he really doesn’t get it.

    Please, Jake, don’t tell us that the dems are to blame for the fascism going on ovah hehr!

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  119. charlie

    Anyone who’s too stupid to vote for mccain over obama at this point isn’t worth our time 8

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  120. charlie

    fuck! no edit. correction. obama over mccain.

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  121. haha

    [By confusing the two candidates, iBC commentor “charlie” accidentally demonstrates a humorous yet insightful point about 21st-century American politics.]

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  122. Employee8

    True Dat … or the intelligence of the American Voter!

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  123. Employee8

    Song with tongue in cheek:

    You’re out of the woods, you’re out of the dark, you’re out of the night ….

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Ayq3Q5wFo

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  124. j

    Fuck off, cocksucker.

    Love the wit fly.

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  125. Zach Litwin

    DT-

    Afer a lashing from Danny,Wood,RC, and the FLY, I apologize for my comments about you and your blog. Please forgive me and I can assure you that it will never happen again.

    I didnt know that you had “OG” status here.

    Olive branch

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  126. sniper6

    I’m glad I don’t have a blog, or pretend to know shit. You fuckaz would be all “up in my grill”, yo.

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  127. sniper6

    Ahhh, sorry for that. Switching back to English now.

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  128. Confused American Voter
    Confused American Voter

    I’m a little confused…

    If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re “exotic, different.”
    If you grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you’re a quintessential American.

    If your name is Barack, you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

    If you name your kids Willow, Bristol, Piper, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.

    If you graduate from Harvard Law School, you are unstable.

    If you attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.

    If you spend 3 years as an appreciated community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.

    If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive and president under certain circumstances.

    If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.

    If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a good Christian.

    If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education to your children, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society·

    If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible.

    If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America’s.

    If you’re husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

    OK, much clearer, now I get it.

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  129. Tralee

    I’m glad you have stated the obvious. Now why doesn’t America get it?

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  130. Confused American Voter
    Confused American Voter

    Tralee – what do you suppose the collective intelligence/IQ of the American electorate is?

    HINT

    ” It must come to an end that earth humans as a whole face all their enormous problems helplessly and powerlessly because all the profit-greedy, irresponsible and unscrupulous ones are able to conduct their criminal affairs unrestrained without being held accountable for them, as are also the governmental persons of responsibility who are incapable of administering their office within the framework of a just and appropriate leadership in order to resolve the mounting problems.”

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  131. Michelle B

    Lol @ Confused American Voter! I am choking with laughter. Spin is honesty, don’t y’all noes?

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  132. Michelle B

    One of those gits apologized to DT, so I will be nice here. In addition to what Boca attributed to DT, DT also let The Fly post at DTs blog when Turgido (Or is it Vincenzo?) slobbered gravy all over the rusty server causing IBC to grind to a limp and most gay halt for hours.

    @Boca, it might not just be alcoholic drunkenness, it could just be drunk on aggressiveness–and we all capable of forgetting our human connection and instead isolate the out-group from the perceived in-group. Even goils like moi-meme do the in/out-group, so it is not just a case of male aggressiveness.

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  133. Dinosaur Trader

    Well, it was nice to wake up today to a show of support. At least all my begging and pandering has finally gotten me somewhere.

    Speaking of support, begging and pandering… AIG. I guess capitalism is dead again. It was nice to have it back for a couple of days.

    Anyway, looking forward to inciting more riots here later.

    -DT

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  134. TraderCaddy

    Now the boyz are going after MS,WB. Reminds me of Whack-A-Mole.

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  135. Cramer is losing it
    Cramer is losing it

    Smells Like REIT Spirit
    Doug Kass
    9/17/08 8:07 AM EDT

    JPMorgan raises Annaly Capital Management (NLY) to overweight this morning.

    The outlook for mortgage REITs, from my perch, is close to nirvana.

    Position: Long NLY

    The WaMu Shoe Is About to Drop
    Doug Kass
    9/17/08 8:27 AM EDT

    The next shoe to drop (and one that the financial markets will have to brace for) is going to be the failure of Washington Mutual (WM).

    There is no question that JPMorgan Chase (JPM) would treasure WaMu’s franchise, but the anti-dilution privileges (and price recast) of the previous TPG financing is punitive to any additional deals with WaMu’s share price at $2.

    Position: Short WM

    SHORTS
    Jim Cramer
    9/17/08 8:31 AM EDT

    The shorts must make a stand here and force down the futures to create a climate of fear,. It must happen, this has been way too big a gravy train and the fear must be sewn. That’s what hedge funds do, for heaven’s sake. Europe’s market seems more realistic.

    Position: none

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  136. Juice

    I’m looking forward to some good expletives from Thee Fly today.

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  137. CubsRock

    Jim got one right, we need that wall of worry.

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  138. nik

    can someone explain why the regional banks are so strong?

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  139. JakeGint

    Wow, lots of commies dropping by last night.

    Jeezus, I haven’t seen a resume gilded like that since I used to help recruit new associates at MS. It sure is telling that you feel you need to compare your done-nothing candidate for President with our done-nothing (except be a governor of a state) candidate for VICE PRESIDENT.

    Odd, no?

    You can only hope that American public would be stupid enough to vote for a People magazine driven child of the hard left.

    Hope’s a good thing. It keeps you increasingly angry wacks from pulling your sofas out into the yard and setting them alight.
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  140. JakeGint

    Anton,

    Skiffles at $125.

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  141. sniper6

    Crisis? What crisis?

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  142. c0in sl0t

    Erin Burnett is an industry shill.

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  143. Juice

    Buy for real commie gas & oil plays. Thank me in 6 months.

    LUKOY
    OGZPY

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  144. JakeGint

    Juice, LOTTA risk in former (wanna be “present”) Soviet Socialist Republics…

    I’d wait.

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  145. Its SKFie – not that dog food gay name.

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  146. JakeGint

    The shorts must make a stand here and force down the futures to create a climate of fear,. It must happen, this has been way too big a gravy train and the fear must be sewn. That’s what hedge funds do, for heaven’s sake. Europe’s market seems more realistic.

    – Cran-mer

    Systemic failure, massive gummint bailouts, and this asshat is blaming hedge funds for “sowing seeds of fear?”

    Someone needs to howitzer this jerk’s “X-desk.”

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  147. TraderCaddy

    Watch MU.

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  148. charlie

    JG, what’s your ratio of eev to skf?

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  149. Juice

    Jake, I hear ya… particularly with war overtones, however much risk has been wrung out even though these could drop another 50% overnight.

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  150. JakeGint

    Charlie… right now about 1 to 3, but only because I stupidly sold some EEV the other day… was closer to 4 to 5 at that point.

    Owned EEV since low seventies, though, so I can’t really complain too much.

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  151. Juice

    Todd Harrison

    09:12:00 AM

    No positions in stocks mentioned.

    Viva La’Mercia!

    * We’re gonna have French Toast for breakfast, French Fries for lunch and French Poodles for dinner in honor of our most recent socialist step. This is a historic juncture in the history of the world, Minyans, as we edge through interesting times.

    * I spoke about this on CNBC in 2003–yes, I had more hair and less chin–and felt like I was screaming about a monster nobody yet saw. Now granted, I was five years early and there were a LOT of opportunities between then and now but “socialism,” “stagflation” and the perils of Fannie Mae (FNM) were officially flagged.

    * Why do I highlight this? Simple–the issues existed five years ago and have cumulatively built since, percolating under the system, growing in magnitude, magnifying in consequence. That’s why there isn’t a single, simple solution.

    * Time and price, Minyans, time and price.

    * Do I think the government should have let AIG (AIG) fail? No, I don’t. It would have created a cataclysmic vacuum that would have sucked General Electric (GE), JP Morgan (JPM), Citigroup (C) and anyone else tied to the derivative ball and chain into the abyss.

    * The “margin for error” from a solution standpoint is thinning. I mean, if the government is cherry picking its portfolio, their perceived credibility will come into question.

    * That’s the risk–shifting social mood, which shapes risk appetite, coupled with derivatives, overwhelmed with debt issuance into a deleveraging process as home values stagnate, unemployment grows and geopolitical tensions mount.

    * My money is split into two buckets. The first is a trading account, where I’m “hitting it to quit it” both ways, and my long-term, which is 100% cash and backed by t-bills (this is important).

    * I’ll be back Minyans–head up, eyes open, thoughts positive.

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  152. JakeGint

    Look at those refineries go baybee go!

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  153. JakeGint

    Look at the shinies!

    GG, RGLD, GLD, SLW, SLV.

    I guess they heard the presses running?

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  154. TraderCaddy

    Done for the AM. Thank you MU, GG.
    Off for a swim.

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  155. Juice

    fwiw … I agree (sort of w Kass), however keep in mind that he is often PAINFULLY early. I still think this market will purge going into Q end due to fund redemptions, tax loss selling, credit issues & deleveraging.

    ———-

    Buying Every Dip
    Doug Kass
    9/17/08 9:45 AM EDT

    I am buying every dip now.

    Position: None

    NAKED SHORT SELLING
    Jim Cramer
    9/17/08 9:45 AM EDT

    I just posted a piece ab0ut COX but our prayers have been answered–i will post a new piece momentarily… so glad they saw the light

    Position: none

    Buying King Coal — FCL, BTU, ACI
    Doug Kass
    9/17/08 9:49 AM EDT

    Repeating for emphasis: I am buying King Coal.

    Position: Long FCL, BTU and ACI

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  156. charlie

    you’d probably make more coin off a jrcc trade today

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  157. Market Fool

    Doesn’t it seem like a bit of poetic justice that Russian markets are going to zero?

    Putin tries to use his new found oil wealth to start fucking with people and he gets egregiosly merlined.

    Poof, your bullshit rubles are worthless.

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  158. wtf?

    I like Erin Burnetss’ hair today. Not so tom-boyish anymore.

    thoughts?

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  159. wtf?

    also, AG’s have bottomed

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  160. JakeGint

    This came to my inbox this morning:

    ________

    Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:02 PM
    Subject: Time To Unify

    There are less than two months until the election, an election
    that will decide the next President of the United States.

    The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not
    just the Democrats or the Republicans. To show our solidarity as
    Americans, let’s all get together and show each other our support for
    the candidate of our choice. It’s time that we all came together,
    Democrats and Republicans alike.

    If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive
    with your headlights on during
    the day.

    If you support Obama, please drive with your headlights off at night.

    Thank you. That is all….


    Jack Owen

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  161. Market Fool

    By the way the guy in the video has some interesting points however, he sounds egregiously similar to that mr. mortgage clowntard.

    .02

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  162. boca

    GLD making a nice move up today.

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  163. Tit Bids fm MV

    Fil Zucchi

    09:55:00 AM

    Positions in GS, MS, SPX

    Tread carefully Minyans…

    OK, that’s just stating the obvious.

    Here is the thing, the market had every reason to stabilize – not rise – this morning, and it is getting whacked. According to a Bloomberg flash, General Electric’s (GE) notes are trading below par, and Morgan (MS) and Goldman (GS) are getting no relief for decent numbers.

    But tomorrow is the last day of trading for S&P 500 (SPX) September options and if things get hairy today and tomorrow, there is no more painful way for shorts to wake up Friday morning to a surprise pre-open rate cut.

    Difficult times indeed.

    ————

    Rod David

    09:42:22 AM

    No positions in stocks mentioned.

    Up the down staircase again…

    I probably didn’t start the fad of comparing Monday’s 500-point drop to the crash of “Black Monday” of 1987. But I was one of the fad’s purveyors. It was one factor that helped me anticipate the selling would bleed into Tuesday morning, and the potential for recovering into positive territory.

    I’m considering whether to join a newer fad. This one says Monday/Tuesday didn’t equate to Black Monday. Instead, this whole week might yet equate to the week that preceded the crash.

    Wide swings under prior lows are expending buying pressure without gaining traction. The drops are ignoring technical divergences. These factors might seem so last month, but perhaps their bearishness is coming back in vogue.

    ——————–

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  164. JakeGint

    GG on the pullback here is nice (if you can get it at $29.15 or so, that’d be perfect), but this shit is RUNNING.

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  165. TraderCaddy

    A 500 point drop from about 11,400 isn’t even close to Black Monday. On 10/19/87 the DJIA lost about 23%. If we lost 23% a few days ago we would have gone down about 2600 points. We have had a handful of 500 point drops since 1987.
    PS Cramer- You are giving me a nasty headache.

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  166. Juice

    It looks like theres gonna be a run on the banks , stocks & actual banks , with that money market problem.

    Get ready for a flush the toilet .. it is necessary. .. maybe the fed tries to plug the hole by a panicky rate cut .. we still need to flush

    Gold, silver is the place to be here , in this sit.

    After the flush, we get the anticipated by chart huggers, rally.

    Caveat .. my guess, needless to say.

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  167. TraderCaddy

    Obviously I sold my GG daytrade a little early but what the hey tommorrow is a new day.

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  168. boca

    I’m glad I got me some GLD when everyone was saying it was it was destroyed.

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  169. TraderCaddy

    By the way, if we crash today gold will end up down $50-100 as everything will be liquidated.

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  170. TraderCaddy

    Maybe we shoukld make Israel the 51st state (not No. 58 Barack).

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