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Jamie Dimon Chimps Out Over Bitcoin Again, Says It’s a Great Vehicle for Venezuelans and Criminals

A broken limbed Jamie Dimon went on a 3 minute screed today about bitcoin, telling the world how much he doesn’t care about it — boasting about the amount of legal tender he moves around on a daily basis. He dismissed bitcoin as some trivial shit currency designed for mountebanks, hustlers and criminals.

Meanwhile, ETH is higher by 14% and BTC is hitting record highs, ballooning the cryptocurrency sector to over $170 billion.

“I could care less about bitcoin. I don’t know why I said anything about it. The blockchain is a technology which is a good technology. We actually use it. It will be useful in a lot of different things. Gold bless the blockchain. Cryptocurrencies, digital currencies, I think are also fine. JPMorgan moves $6 trillion around the world every day, and we don’t do it in cash, it’s done digitally. If it can be done digitally with the blockchain, so be it. But it will still be a dollar cryptocurrency. What I have an issue with is a non-fiat cryptocurrency. So crypto sterling, euro, yen, they are all fine. I don’t personally understand the value of something that has no actual value. You all can do whatever you want and I don’t care.

“I could care less what bitcoin trades for, how it trades, why it trades, who trades it. If you’re stupid enough to buy it, you’ll pay the price for it one day. I’ve also told people that it can trade at $100,000 before it trades to zero. Tulip bulbs traded for $75,000 or something like that.

“The only value of bitcoin is what the other guy’ll pay for it. Honestly I think there’s a good chance a lot of the buyers out there are out there jazzing it up every day so that maybe you’ll buy it too, and take them out.

“I quite mean that by the way. People are very good at manipulating the press these days and getting news out. Every day, you have CNBC, nonstop bitcoin — Who cares about bitcoin? The world economy’s so big, JPMorgan alone, $6 trillion, we move all this money, and bitcoin in total, all these currencies, $50 billion dollars, maybe a billion dollars trades a day.

“The other thing I’ve always [said] about bitcoin, governments — and this is not a technological statement — governments are going to crush it one day. Governments like to know where the money is, who has it and what you’re doing with it, in case you haven’t noticed. Right?

“And governments like to control their currency, like to control their own economy. So China’s already put curbs on it. Japan, they say Japan accepted bitcoin. No they didn’t. What I gather Japan did was they call it J-coin. It’s a yen cryptocurrency. It’s not a non-fiat [digital currency].

“People have said legitimately ok, it’s close to gold. Not really. Gold is limited, it’s been around for along time. [People also say bitcoin is] close to a fiat currency. Not really. A fiat currency is when a government says this is your legal tender, you have to give it and accept it.

“And a central bank — of course they can misuse it. The central bank [can also] inflate it. So there is a use case for bitcoin. If you live in Venezuela, North Korea, if you’re a criminal, great product. I mean that. It’s better than cash or deposits in that country. Cuba.

“But this is the last time I’m ever going to answer questions about bitcoin because I really don’t care.

“When I made that ‘stupid statement’ [calling bitcoin a] fraud, my daughter sent me an email saying, ‘Dad, I own two bitcoins.’ My formerly smart daughter.”

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11 comments

  1. natehois

    Love that last comment. Grouchy old fucko

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  2. og

    Why do you guys think other cryptos like ETH and LTC have not nearly recovered as much as BTC has?

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    • metalleg

      Bitcoin Gold fork in a week and a half. If you own Bitcoin, you get a free Bitcoin Gold. A few months ago, Bitcoin forked and Bitcoin holders received one Bitcoin Cash for each Bitcoin they owned.

      Using similar logic, people have bought up Bitcoin by trading out of their alt coins. So Bitcoin has gone up and the alt coins have dropped. No one wants to sell Bitcoin because you need to hold it through the fork in order to get Bitcoin Gold.

      What I think will happen is that the alt coins will begin to head higher before the Bitcoin fork and will explode in price afterward while Bitcoin faceplants.

      I won’t be surprised to see Bitcoin drop through the floorboards before the fork because some holders would rather protect what they’ve already earned than risk it for some Unknown Bitcoin Gold.

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  3. sarcrilege

    Priceless. Jamie has an issue with non-fiat currency that has no actual value.
    “What I have an issue with is a non-fiat cryptocurrency. So crypto sterling, euro, yen, they are all fine. I don’t personally understand the value of something that has no actual value.”

    As opposed to what? A fiat currency that has no actual value?

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    • moonshot

      Everything is worth what someone will pay for it. Shiny metal is worthless if no one wants it.

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  4. moosh

    Chump it up jamie. More please

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  5. dmfracer

    God he talks like a boss. When I talk like that to my wife she just tells me stop bossing her around. Like his formerly smart daughter.

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  6. ricks234

    Señor Fly, One of your old picks, $VHC just won a big one against $AAPL.

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  7. clock

    One of my ladies paid for my lunch today…with Bitcoins. o(^_^)o

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  8. The Maven

    This is Dimon’s Moment In The Sun. Brilliance.

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