Is this one of Trump’s grandiose lies, akin to his promises of reinstating water boarding interrogation tactics or worse? Personally, the only reason why I voted for Trump was his promise to bring back water boarding. Now he’s out there saying republitards have to cancel their vacation plans to Martha’s Vinyard and Nantucket, in order to pass some stupid fucking healthcare bill that will help poor/middle class people live longer?
For the sake of the environment, shouldn’t we let these people die faster? Everyone knows the enlightened 1% leave smaller carbon footprints, sashaying in and out of cities in solar powered jets and small dwellings that do not disturb the natural landscape.
Trump said Obama lied dozens of times about Obamacare. Is this true? Dare I say, I am befuddled by all of this.
Also, he even said a single payer healthcare system would ‘bankrupt’ the country. What in the scandalous fuck? Doesn’t Canada and the UK have single payer systems? How could they do it, but not us?
As presently situated, running at around $2,000 per month, my family and I find healthcare to be quite affordable. I see no reason to tinker with it. The state’s that Trump mentioned, Alaska and Arizona, are, more or less, barren wastelands — befit with rubes and rusticates. Here in the Northeast, all that is important is theatre, the arts, and the availability of Rose during the summer months.
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I’m for universal healthcare except for fatties.. they have to pull their own weight I say.
and smokers, and druggies, and alcoholics, and other sinners, and..
Anybody ever read Denninger’s take on this health care fiasco ? Will it work or not ?
https://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=232240
Can’t compare UK and Canada to the USA. By comparison they are like US states. Imagine one size fits all for the whole of Europe – never work – and that is what Congress is wrestling with. It’s amazing that they have not figured this out yet.
The best option is complete repeal with a new system to be phased in slowly on a state by state basis – after a trial or two to fine tune things first.
These are my observations regarding the current health care situation in the USA (Home of the Brave, Land of The FEE) Yes, that’s not a spelling mistake!! You have to be brave to put up with the fucking Fees..
To avoid dissonance on this site, and not be bombarded with “Well Fuck Off Back to Blighty” if the healthcare is so good brigade, I offer some background on my experience with both systems.
1. I grew up in Great Britain (0 to 38)
2. Used the Universal Healthcare System (NHS) many times (Fucking Accident Prone Hypochondriac)
3. Once spent a whole year in hospital with Head Injury (See above) wasn’t exaggerating!!
So here goes:
UK system is not free, if you work you have to pay NI (National Insurance) which is not dissimilar to Medicare Tax, except NI includes Social Security Tax, presently I pay more in these two taxes than I would in the UK, and get zero benefit until I am older.
Recently I made an appointment to see my Primary Care Provider for a yearly medical, or as you call it Physical, I was told end of August is the earliest they can fit me in…WTF.
In UK you are looking at no more than a week.
In the UK, when you visit your doctor, you go into his office, you sit and discuss your medical problems, and he/she listens and makes recommendations or treats you accordingly.
Here in the US of A you sit for a long time after paying a co-pay, get herded into a 6ft x 8ft room with a examining table/hand basin, and a computer on the wall, then in comes Juanita Mendez Gonzalez who just graduated from ITT Tech with a worthless Medical Assistant Diploma, who sticks a thermometer in mouth, and takes your temperature then leaves.
Wait another 10-15 minutes in said small room while listening to your next door medical neighbor talk about their Vaginal rash, and prolapsed Anus leaks, while your assigned doctor makes his way along the numerous 6 x 8ft rooms that resemble a stable until he finally gets to me.
Then he/she doctor will then state that he needs authorization from your insurance provider to run basic tests, and we will be contacting you when we get it. Upon which, you get a letter from said insurance provider stating that for some unknown anomaly in the contract, they are extremely apologetic, but cannot grant this test.
I was going to venture into the whole Emergency Room experience, and about how my 12 year old Son learned all about extreme craziness regarding a sheriff accompanied man who was shouting out his Gang Raped misadventures while only 8ft away.
In the UK, this would never occur.
And in the UK, if you no like the NHS, you can always go private, which is very inexpensive, due to the fact that all the private healthcare is competing with a heavily prices regulated government healthcare system.
As a comparison, in the UK I was paying approximately $80 per month for a whole family 2+4 kids, for private BUPA, here I pay $1800 and co-pays are extra ($15) per visit.
In essence, the USA spends the most on healthcare, but is number 72 in performance In Level of Health, and number 37 on Overall Performance of Healthcare System Performance, just a whole 2 places ahead of Cuba. Way to go USA!!
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000
You fucking said it. They’re gouging us and our government let’s them butt fuck us even harder.
Like 4% is private insurance in the UK. You have dense population jammed into an area the size of half of California. Regional clinics are easier when nearly 90% of your population lives in the metro areas. Not like that I the states. Depends on your network and doctor too. Are they overloaded with patients? I never have to wait long.
Here’s the thing, Germany would never accept the UK system, nor France, and so on. The UK would never accept Italy’s system and so on.
Now take this to the extreme – say Brussels announcing that all healthcare would be centralized – for the whole of the EU. This is simply unimaginable. It would never work.
Yet this is what is going on in DC. The idea is doomed. It has to be returned to the States.
handyandy says…
“…These are my observations regarding the current health care situation in the USA (Home of the Brave, Land of The FEE) Yes, that’s not a spelling mistake!! You have to be brave to put up with the fucking Fees…”
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Gotta agree w/handyandy…
Went to a Dermatologist and got some red spots on face sprayed. Was there about 15 min. Got a bill in the mail later for $430. Called it….surgery. (couldn’t fuckin believe it)
“Healthcare” is a scam. Old fucking age is the number cause of death. Period.
No, sugar and salt are.
Whatever. Give all your money to the “doctors” if you want. Salt? Get the fuck out with that horseshit. Sugar. Maybe. If you eat a pound every week.
It’s no longer health insurance, it’s a tax. $2K a month for a family is 24K a year plus your deductibles. That shit sucks bruh.
I had a good plan for like a $100 a month, then it tripled due to the essential health benefits mandate.
Repeal it, we can do way better. Just start over.
“If you like your health care plan, you can keep it,” President Barack Obama said — many times — of his landmark new law.
They all sit on a throne of lies.