Sorry, but I’m unable to empathize with anyone who’s against the border wall. The amount of drugs streaming into this country from that pit of hell is enough to want to go to war with them. But we can’t, so the next best thing to do is build a fortress wall in order to keep out the zombie hordes.
Plus anyway, think about this long term. Once the shit hits the fan and the global economy melts down, we won’t have to deal with millions of impoverished land apes scurrying over our feckless border, committing all sorts of raping and thievery along the way.
Sean Spicer just announced we’re gonna tax Mexican imports by 20% to pay for the wall.
BREAKING: White House spokesman: Trump calling for 20 percent tax on imports from Mexico to pay for southern border wall.
— The Associated Press (@AP) January 26, 2017
Earlier today, both Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell said they’d finance the construction of the wall, which should cost $12-15b.
“We anticipate a supplemental [budget] coming from the administration,” Ryan said. “The point is we’re going to finance the Secure Fence Act.”
I’m certain it’ll come in under budget and ahead of schedule, however.
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All the libtards are out now talking about how Coronas and tomatos are going to cost 20% more.
It’s not that simple. You’re going to have substitution of goods, onshoring, firms not passing on the whole amount of the tax, and so on.
Not to mention maybe this makes a dent in the $24 billion sent every year by Mexicans from the U.S., or in the preposterous costs in social services, welfare, free ER care, and all kinds of other shit that we all pay for, plus all the other second-order costs like increased costs for police protection, dealing with property damage, etc.. It’s amazing when you think about it. Perhaps the wall will also decrease the manpower or other items required for border security, too.
The libs are big fans of complexity and telling the “whole story” when it benefits them, but they’re oddly silent here.
Yes, companies and shareholders love to absorb higher costs on behalf of the consumer.
Libtards grow our own tomatoes, and we drink micro brews from Wisconsin…Spotted Cow is legit.
The libs brew their own. They will NOT have that commercialized swill.
Oh, dude. At first I thought you were knocking Spotted Cow (genuflect) but know I see you were kneecapping de Carona…as you were…
If you are knocking the Cow, I would strenuously object, and may even consider thinking about putting my cursor over the thumb down on your post…maybe.
Spotted Cow is a treat every time I’m in the cheese’d state. Very good, so drinkable. Too bad we can’t get it here in Illinois.
I’m from there, and but live in South Dakota now. Thank God I have a roof rack on the van for the 10 year old, so I fill more of the inside with SC. I don’t want to get snow or rain on the cardboard packaging.
Fibs coming up here, drinking our beer, pfft…
Spotted Cow is a top 10 beer. Delicious stuff. There are a couple cases in my garage as we speak.
10.70s Vix
you can’t get it much lower now fuckface central bank programmers
i’m outlasting you so kiss my cheeks
no record high S&P
no Nasdaq
did IBM, GS, and CAT account for 50% of the day’s dow gains again
I’m absolutely flabbergasted that a Republican President ran – and won – on the largest new government spending project that we’ve undertaken in decades.
I’m similarly flabbergasted that the first Executive Order on jobs from our “America First” President granted a project to a Canadian company.
It’s completely and utterly bananaland…
P.S. Drugs go under the border these days.
It is a security project not a govt spending project. It is financed project to be reimbursed.
It is a border security project that includes enforcement, wall and keeping people and discouraging the risk to use illegals as pack mules.
By the way……….jobs
Security projects are paid for by the government, hence the “government spending” wording. I did replace the word “infrastructure” with “government” in my original post.
And my Republican friends labelled me a socialist for the last 20 years when I said government spending can create jobs. “Government can’t create jobs.” they said.
By the way, I upvoted you.
I didn’t down vote you.
There is an economic problem with relying on govt to create jobs because it is canibalistic in nature. If you think the govt will do it better and take it over then yes, you would be a socialist.
My belief is that the govt has primarily one function. To protect its citizens. The whining for immigrants would piss me off if I am in the inner city. Take care of our own before we take care of others.
Does the wall protect? Lockheed and Boeing are similar situations where jobs are created because they help protect.
When no one else is hiring, debt is cheap and we need to fix the roads, I believe the government should be putting more spending projects in place.
When the economy gets better, it should shut it off and pay off the bills. We’ve gotten away from that.
I think the wall is silly and expensive idea that won’t protect us from being a drug- and illegal alien-free country, but I have been wrong before. Just one look at my trading journal will prove that.
Mexican beer? Corona? Not really beer. More like mule piss filtered over road gravel. Beer is Pivot. Good drinking beer is Zywiec.
You think they are manually packing drugs across the border in backpacks? LMAO.
Secondly, it wont work anyways. The only politicians with any experience with a wall are Texas and Arizona and ZERO taxes congressmen are on board. ZERO!
http://theweek.com/speedreads/675971/texas-longest-border-mexico-zero-38-members-congress-support-trumps-wall
AND – 95% of the drugs come on boats.
This will go down in history as the stupidest project ever completed.
Your right. We shouldn’t secure the border because it will make other people mad.
Screw Mexico. When your prez drops F bombs publically at the new administration you will not get any preferential treatment.
Drugs IMO are secondary to human trafficing and illegal immigration. The war on drugs has the worst ROI in the business. Eliminating illegals who drain the system, don’t assimilate, and possibly end up incarcerated can save us money as well.
Actually a lot of drugs do cross the border by land. Whether they just end up going ahead and building tunnels is a whole nother issue you don’t hear much about.
This was a good report on Mexican drug running you might find surprising. http://fullmeasure.news/news/immigration/drugs-on-the-border
Many stupider projects. This is up there though.
You are also assuming that Trump will do a physical barrier. The one thing trump has done so far is show a willingness to listen to come up with the best solution.
The planning has started, not the construction.
Well if 95% of drugs come on boats, we’ll just make sure the wall is so strong, boats can’t break through… Duh!!!
A 20 % import tax means Americans are going to pay for the wall.
That’s an alternate fact you spew. Or fake news. Take your pick.
Better than the alternative: going James K Polk and taking Mexican border lands several miles deep – that’s one way to null every tunnel out there.
I live in AZ. And I love the Mexican people. But we need a fucking wall. My best friend’s family is all in the border patrol, some for decades, and they all have no doubt it is needed.
Mexicans tend to be violent and they steal. There kids become gangbangers half the time. The prisons are full of them. The crime stats in SoCal are a joke. Thousands of cars are stolen and not even investigated past 15 minutes. Straight to Tijuana. Given time the true toll of violence and theft will replace the fake news of the last couple decades. There is a reason Mexico is a complete shithole. But maybe Cali is unique.
We better be able to see the Great Wall of USA from space, that’s I’ll I have to say on the topic.
Note to self…pour the rest of the driveway now…and buy the shit out of CCJ.
I hope they build a better wall than this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36kXjJZ0mMU
little monkey vatos
People could’ve just bought American to begin with if they cared as much as they claim. Grow your own vegetables, buy from a local farmer. Pay 10% more for your house to be built. Don’t shop anywhere that hires illegals. So basically don’t ever shop at a grocery store. Punish the companies that hire illegals. Guess what though, people love their cheap shit and like to complain. They have 0 conviction. See, I’ve been MAGA before most people found their new identity. It’s because I’m a man of true conviction, and don’t need to be told what to think. Sitting in my fine eames chair, made in the great state of Michigan. Looking at my couch made in North Carolina. With a piece of garbage Ford sitting in my driveway. So build a wall, but let’s all take the blame for just being shitty humans. Always looking for someone to blame because we couldn’t do the “hard stuff” ourselves.
Good points, Joshua. The wall and this tax will serve as a forcing function, though. If people will gravitate naturally toward practices that will encourage illegal immigration and reward those who employ them, as I believe you correctly posit, then this huge ass wall and tariff will help do the job that consumers making choices would not.
Great! 20% tariff. Why not raise it to 250% so that they can help pay for Medicare? Oh well, we know he’s just negotiating …nothing can go wrong.
I would like to coin a new word: Reactard
Yes Gapfiller, libtards are out there …and feeling holier than thou as always.
The reaction to them: President Trump. Are most Trump supporters Reactards? Not thinking people, but just amoebas whose cilia brushed up against a libtard so they went in the opposite direction?
The administration, and this mb,
Don’t be a reactionary reactard.
Like most you don’t understand trump. Everything is a negotiation. Mexico stonewalled him and publically dropped fbombs on twitter.
Who has the leverage here.
Why is it so hard for you Lib-Trolls to understand that this is a country, and that is our southern border. A border that is out of control. Drugs, human trafficking, mass illegal immigration from all points south. Restore order and sanity. How can you Libs not get it.
Sure, I get what you’re saying. So stop supporting companies that use them, and problem solved. If you did that, then they wouldn’t come here. Pretty simple.
What do you consider “mass illegal immigration”?
Visigoths
I get it.. just think paying 15 billion .. you know it will be way more.. is stupid solution. Hire more border guards at s fraction of the cost and hire somewhat smart to manage the agency.
Why is it so fucking hard for the Trumpetariat to wrap around their tiny goddam xenophobic brains that this fucking wall won’t work. 50 foot wall? Fifty one foot ladders, kids. The Border Patrol is very good at catching illegal immigrants moving across the border, in addition to rounding up ladders, but the migrants get detained for a couple of weeks and released for hearings, which they’re entitled to. Those hearings are scheduled for six months or more after they are released. Then they don’t show up. Guess what? Now you’ve got an undocumented immigrant. Maybe just maybe it’s worth expanding the Justice Department to process those guys quicker, so that they go straight from detention to explusion much more quickly. There is an migration OUT of the US across the southern border right now. Bolster up port security and surveillance with technology. A wall is the dumbest solution to the whole problem, so instead of worshiping Trump and sucking his tryannical cock, why don’t you fuckers put some thought into this for a change. Because the best shit you can come up with is throwing around the word “libtard.” Dumbasses.
You’re expecting people to think. The wall isn’tmeant to work, it’s a symbol….. for retards.
I realize I will be enslaved and be among the first to break quarry to build the wall, then imprisoned in one of the solitary holding cells just behind the parapet. I accept this as long as I get to go out screaming. Don’t forget to Downvote me, thank you!
A ladder? lol. I’m fairly certain that American engineers can design a wall that will be very difficult to circumvent. Protecting our borders should be a no-brainer. Put sentry guns on it and shoot at everything that approaches. What’s your idea, genious?
I appreciate you reaching out for my suggestion. Since I am in fact an American civil engineer, my peer-reviewed, Masters Degree level solution is “no fucking wall.” It takes 15 seconds to hop the 10-15 high fence right now. A 20 foot wall with a few feet of footing and wooden spikes and the heads of EPA scientists as deterrents will increase that time to say 45 seconds. I regret to inform you that Improving the thickness of a doesn’t matter. The coyotes are not driving Chevy Novas into the fence a la Dukes of Hazzard. Firing guns into a foreign country is not advisable.
The materials would have to be precast concrete, and where are you going to get the steel rebar for this effort? Import it from China after Trump starts a trade war with them?
There, I just saved America $14B dollars on something useless, not to mention the headache of negotiating with private property owners on the northern edge of the wall. Or does private property not mean anything to Republicans?
Trump is welcome to repair and maintain the existing border fence with his slush fund. By all means, fix holes, replace stretches of chain link fence if there are any.
Border security is important, I agree. I’m not arguing against that. If you want to slow the drug trade, it is more effective to throw money at ports, the Coast Guard, and improve surveillance technology for the Border Patrol.
now that you saved us $14b on the wall.. can you help with the f-35 program!?
Please give me a day or two to solve the F-35 program. Thank you. This will be pro bono.
Yeah, me too. I just graduated from college, so now I’m a god damned expert on national security.
Look retard, walls have helped civilizations protect their borders for thousands of years. Having a wall, replete with sensors, and a beefed up force on the ground, will guarantee high levels of capture. Anyone arguing the contrary is simply shilling and/or stupid.
Where did you get your degree? APOL? Stop embarrassing yourself.
I’m no engineer, but how about build two walls. Anyone caught in the middle gets got.
And they don’t teach about eminent domain in school anymore? Right-of-way?
Your great leader, pointing out that his wall can be defeated by a ladder and a rope…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oP8H9nQKT4
Sounds like we are on to something here
F35’s flying patrol over the Trump wall, stopping all those pesky drones ( extra Amazon) flying piss beer, avacados and cocaine over the wall
or 2 walls , with a moat between them and put some sharks with laser beams attached to their frickin heads,
or failing that some ill tempered sea bass
Simple solution to the tomato issue. USA farmers can quit growing corn for export to Mexico (via foreign aid programs) and they can instead grow tomatoes. When I was a grade schooler there used to be tomato farms by me…now it’s all corn. Times they are a changin.
I am for the wall. We need to stop the drugs, violence, and most of all the human trafficking that goes on because of the border and the different cultures. We are just giving away our country too. We should enforce the rules. The southern border has been a long term problem, building a high tech fence/wall and pouring money into enforcement and border security is a great idea. The border states have been begging for this for decades.
Will there be a physical wall like in medievil times? I’m thinking this bitch will be modern and effective, delivering a fatal electric shock or cross with laser. But much of it will be more vigilance and cross-checks on everyone.
It’s seems most of these commentors believe that the people who landed on the moon and invented the internet, the airplane, and every other thing of consequence, are going to build an 8 foot hurricane fence to protect the southern border. Lol.
We are going to build the fence out of plutonium and titanium, with superconducting laser beams.
I just read a report that claims 82% of adult men have admitted to farting on their finger at somepoint and then smelling it–just taking a quick whiff.
It said that over 90% of the time it occurred while sitting on the couch watching tv.
Yeah, so what’s your point? Burp…
Fantastic! That will be a boon for my domestic Trump piñata business.
The only problem is sourcing cheap bullshit for the inside.
We should make our prisoners man the wall.
Wall really is a dumb idea. There will be some great banksy pieces on it though. Could become a real art gallery.
“We welcome change and openness; for we believe that freedom and security go together, that the advance of human liberty can only strengthen the cause of world peace. There is one sign the Americans can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. President Trump, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the United Steaks of America and North America, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate. Mr. Trump, open this gate. Mr. Trump, tear down this wall!”
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I would advise Trump to give the Mexican prez this ultimatum;
Either you get crime and drugs under control in your country or else we built a wall and use tariffs on your goods to pay for it.
Logic being, make Mexico a place where it’s citizens actually want to live and work and our illegal immigration problem will solve itself.
The flip side of this is worth contemplating also….
Don’t think for s minute China wouldn’t love to get all cozy with Mexico and establish a base there.
Think about it.