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Icahn Calls Ackman Out On His Herbalife Lies and Obsession

Explain to me how this episode of ‘Bill Ackman takes to CNBC to talk up his book’, via outright lies, wasn’t a pump and dump scheme? If a stock broker were to go on Twitter and publish to his 238 followers that Carl Icahn was selling $HLF, according to his block sale contact at Jefferies, he’s be investigated within 24 hours and tossed into a raping prison inside of 12 mos.

But Billy has clout.

So he went on CNBC this morning and told a tale about Carl Icahn selling HLF, which caused his billion dollar short position to plummet by 7%.

After the close of trade, C. Icahn issued the following press release, calling bullshit on Ackman’s lies and then went on to shit on Billy in a most hilarious manner, calling into question is mental stability and how wrong he’s been, for a very long time.

Over the years many investment bankers, including Jefferies, that specialize in block trades frequently make bids for our large positions. But completely contrary to what Bill Ackman stated on television today, I have never given Jefferies an order to sell any of our Herbalife shares. Last month we publicly disclosed that Herbalife granted us permission to go up to 35%. At the time of the disclosure, Ackman declared that I have no interest in increasing my position in Herbalife. This was obviously another misstatement of the facts by Ackman since today I bought another 2.3 million shares. I continue to believe in Herbalife: it’s a great model that creates a great number of jobs for people. Ackman may be a smart guy but he has clearly succumbed to the same dangerous (and sometimes fatal) malady that afflicts many investors – he’s developed a very bad case of “Herbalife obsession”. Obsessions concerning the value of stocks are the undoing of many investors because they often blind you to the facts, and it becomes impossible to see the forest for the trees. Watching Ackman on television today is a perfect example of this “obsession”. A month ago he declared that I’d never buy more Herbalife stock, which obviously turned out to be completely wrong. Today, he said I’m done with my Herbalife investment and that I’m a seller. Obviously wrong, again. It amazes me that a guy who hasn’t any knowledge of my internal investment thinking believes he is in a position to go on television to tell the world what I AM thinking! Amazing! He has no right to do so, and even worse, I’m sure his unsubstantiated, obsessive comments, especially about Herbalife, have cost investors a great deal of money over the last few years.

Apparently, desperate people do desperate things.

Throughout the trading day, investors sniffed out the bullshit, maybe Carl bought a few more share himself, knowing the rumors were false. In the after hours, the stock erased all losses, adding  4%.

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5 comments

  1. dmfracer

    Cut and Paste from the other blog post comments — Don’t fuck with Uncle Carl — Icahn buys 2.3 million more Herbalife shares; slams Ackman’s ‘obsessive’ remarks http://www.cnbc.com/id/103896655
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/103896655

    ”Twas but a simple plan…..designed to fuck with ackman and enrich the Grand Old Uncle

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  2. gudenaev

    This whole thing is really fucked up. Odd that Jefferies waited til after market close to say they never shopped the shares. In the end, I don’t think Ackman was lying about this for some reason.

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  3. the raconteur

    Ackman got played. People smell blood

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  4. mx2101

    I wonder if Bill Ackman’s conviction on the short position is significantly influenced by a personal aversion to the multi level marketing business model? If so, this would be interesting considering Mr. Ackman is well insulated from the misery of the lower classes.

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  5. sethster99

    Ackman will be vindicated in the end. HLF is a cesspool of a business that is about to collapse.

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