Essentially, we have an Islamic extremism problem, not a good problem. This is a powerful speech, which will be reviled by many who walk around with acute mental ailments.
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I ain’t watching a 45 min video
just tell me how I should feel like you normally do
I skipped through it. You get the gist after the first 10.
I normally feel like kicking you down a flight of stairs, lined with mustard.
So the Republican Party through its nominee is gloating about how the deaths of 49 people are making them look good.
The Republican record:
Invaded a sovereign nation unleashing a wave of terrorism that is sweeping the world.
Caused an epic economic collapse.
Ensured that the USA will be crushed by debt because of their moronic tax cuts.
Ensured that terrorists and the mentally ill can buy the weapons they need to commit their crimes..
gibberish
Sorry. I tried to be as clear as I could.
I am assuming that people realize that now Trump is the nominee, he speaks for the Party and all its members.
I love how people blame an economic collaspe on one party but fail to realize the recession started under Clinton, he caught the economic cycle just right when he was elected in ’92 rode it into a second term and it left office a year into a recession. Yet it’s one parties fault.
What myopic BS. They all suck, they only care about their own power and wealth.
13:30…did he just refer to Orlando as OrLawndou?
Yes
We do have a dysfunctional immigration system. And Marco Rubio put forth a plan to reform our immigration so that the system makes more sense. And his fellow GOP Congress members tarred and feathered him for it. And did not come up with an alternate plan.
There is no reason for Congress to come up with a workable immigration policy. And they probably won’t, no matter who the president is. Because they get donations from companies that want to hire illegal aliens at substandard wages. And the workers can’t do anything about it, because they’re here illegally. And the voters are so gullible, that more than 90% of Congress members are re-elected, no matter how many times Congress members screw their Constituents over.
I am all for immigration reform. But getting it through Congress would be the problem. The president is not a king. Congress makes the laws, except for a few areas that can be covered by executive order.
As for saying “radical Islam”, shall we also talk about “radical Christianity” then– every time some nut job bombs an abortion clinic or kills abortion doctors or patients?
Most Muslims are peaceful. Many many of them condemn ISIS and all terrorism. They are all over Twitter at #notinmyname and other places. Another example:
http://www.freemuslims.org/issues/terrorism.php
This is why Obama does not say “Islamic terrorism.” Most Muslims do not think that terrorism is a part of their religion, any more than most Christians think the killing of doctors and patients and bombing of abortion clinics is part of their religion.
We need the help of moderate Muslims– people who do not think terrorism is a part of their religion, but think that their religion is simply being used by nut jobs. Just like most Christians feel about abortion doctor murderers. We need the help of moderate Muslims to win the war of ideas– to make the ideas of terrorists so unpopular– among Muslims as well as others– that terrorists can not recruit anyone any more.
TL;DR
No problem. It was about some issues raised in the 45 minute Trump video above, which I must assume was TL, DW, for someone like you.
Ouuu burn. Ouch.
Panic much? The progressives shills are getting scared. You should frog.
I’m not scared. If I were you, would I be scared? Of what?
Not clever is fucking boring frog.
I’m disappointed that Bernie isn’t getting the Dem nomination. And sad about the murders. But not scared of anything. The simple truth.
Here you go frog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0McfH-hweQ
Listening now. A very beautiful song here. Thanks very much, Ironbird.
Frog, this comment is BS. Islam is a scourge. Think of how woman are treated in Islamic countries. 19 women burned alive yesterday for being disobedient sex slaves. Child brides as young as 9, women kidnapped and used as sex slaves, husbands are encouraged to beat their wives into submission, and a raped woman is of stoned to death while the attackers go free, etc. This is all Sharia law. Don’t conflate Christianity with Islam.
https://youtu.be/X36LSw7X5Bs
Don’t conflate radical extremist Islam with all of Islam. There are moderate Muslims, and even liberal ones. And we insult those people if we act like Sharia Law and terrorism are necessary parts of Islam. Just like we would be insulting Christians if we were to say that we have radical Christian terrorists who bomb abortion clinics.
We need to win the war of ideas against terrorists. And to do that we need to work with the moderate Muslims in spreading peaceful ideas.
In some of those same countries, the penalty for leaving Islam is imprisonment or even death. So you have no idea what religion any terrorists or anyone else in those countries actually believes in.
It’s “Do you want to be Muslim or do you want to be dead?” Surprise. Just about everyone says “Okay I am Muslim then.” Wouldn’t you?
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/28/which-countries-still-outlaw-apostasy-and-blasphemy/
You know very little about this yet you write on and on. There are no Christian terrorists, that is a joke, you have no idea about Christianity.
It’s our choice whether we allow Muslims into this county. It’s a dangerous thing to do so. As soon as they are a majority or close to it then we all get to live under Sharia. Actually, Christians and Jews are not killed under Sharia, they are relegated to second class citizens and forced to pay a special tax, they have no access to the courts, and they must step aside when a Muslim male walks by, etc. People other than Christians and Jews, ie atheist, agnostics, and Hindus, etc., must make the choice either to become Muslim or die.
The 10 to 20 percent of Muslim’s who are radical are the devout ones the rest are nominal or cultural Muslims. If they give their lives trying to kill nonbelievers (ie you) and spreading islam “in jihad” then this is the only sure way to go to paradise otherwise they likely go to hell. In Christianity, the 10 percent or so of devout Christians will give their lives to save you, not to try to go to heaven, but because they know God loves you and they love God. That is part the difference between the two religions.
Islam is currently playing a numbers game and is trying to conquer the world through population and it’s working. Liberals are leading the way for them by weakening the west and refusing to recognize the danger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQELHJx8Vf0
+1 with exception:
No one member of any religion has the exact same views as other members of that religion. Given that, you can’t define what a religion says or doesn’t say, anymore than you can predefine someone’s views because they are a Republican.
The world would be much better off if the most extreme 5% of every religion (including atheism…) were just vaporized: they are the ones causing the most problems. Thank God for the 1st Amendment.
Still, the facts do show that the followers of Islam religion do tend to be more conservative and less tolerant than those of most other religions in general.
Mr. Trumps’ love for the U.S. and his passion for our safety should not be disputed. He is very clear on where he stands. I do not usually put my two cents in on political issues, but this time I will. The safety of our Nation is at a crossroads. In my opinion, we need someone who understands that and is willing to fight for it.
“The safety of our nation is at a crossroads” Bush used the same argument……..Then attacked Iraq?
Certain arguments seem to always get votes. But it doesn’t necessarily mean the candidate knows what to do once into office.
Complete ignorance displayed above. The nation was still coming off the WTC attacks. We gave him 18 times to let UN inspections to continue. 75% of Americans were for the invasion. We had like 80 something nations invested along with us. Quit the simple one liners pea brain.
Dear Left, good luck you stupid sh*ts on your eternal quest to find that deranged, maniacal Presbyterian; I have an AK and am content to deal with the future on an equal basis. Your dumb-as-f*ck president-of-the-left president is as tone deaf as a stone.
That is all.
Does it make you feel good to insult people who have different views from you? Would you enjoy being insulted by people who have different views from you? What is the point of that?
Lol. I still don’t get putting the * in the vowel letters of words. What up with that? My guess is the answer from this character, is yes, to all three of you questions.
Killary is fucked
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/julian-assange-warns-wikileaks-will-publish-enough-evidence-indict-hillary-clinton
Well, we’ll know what this is about when and if he releases anything.
The oddest part about this terror attack is, according to the Koran, that Muhammad himself was a cross-dressing homosexual. It makes Islamic hatred of homosexual so confusing.
https://youtu.be/056LEABAIUI
Terrorists from Middle Eastern cultural groups are violent people being violent. And they are using their culture’s religion as an excuse for the violence.
They are not religious people being religious.
The terrorist are very devout Muslims. That is why they are willing die.
Are the abortion clinic bombers very devout Christians? And that’s why they’re willing to kill others and risk being killed themselves?
Wow frog and I actually agree on something.
It’s completely different. First think of the numbers. In the past ten years there have maybe been 5 or so instances where some crazy person invoked Christianity to harm people and there have been over 25,000 instances of Islamic terror. In Islam dying in jihad is the only sure way to heaven. What does Christianity say about enemies: love them, pray for them, feed them, and leave vengeance to God. In Islam, you kill nonbelievers and get a free pass to paradise. You don’t appear to know very much about either Christianity or Islam.
shit has nothing to do with religion. US is stealing oil and they see the hedonistic lifestyles of Americans from media. if you were starving and saw kardashians and paris hilton, you might want to do some crazy shit too.
reality is it is a dog eat dog world and the US army is one mean pit bull. trump understands the dangers, Killary does not.
He’s refining his message….finally!
He’s communicating better too. Glad to see it. He’s had me very concerned the last few months.
If I where a gay man, I would be more afraid of Muslims than any group. Skin heads and muggers would be better company.
Fact: in the UK, over 40 percent of Muslims believe homo sexual shit should be outlawed.
30 percent believe terrorism is ok.
25 percent think it’s ok to throw gays off roof tops.
We are talking about the ones in the west. Forget about the ones in their home land. As a few people have said already. It’s totally dangerous to be gay or a woman.
Take the penis from your ears and eyes and look at this again. These are not people you want to hold up as equals.
Regards
Chuck Bennett
So then, up to 60% of Muslims in the UK may be moderate Muslims? We need to work on increasing those percentages, all over the world, in the war of ideas.
I am never going to be a Muslim. But neither am I or anyone going to be able to stop people from becoming Muslim. But if we can help increase the number of moderate Muslims in the world, that would be good.
Shut the fuck up already and go to huff post. You are ruining this site
I watch Fox and MSNB because I don’t view politics as a belief system and I’m not afraid of hearing other points of view.
Maybe you’d be happier in China or Saudi Arabia, where differing viewpoints are discouraged. Or maybe it’s that *I* would be happier if you were in China or Saudi Arabia.
In the U.S., in recent years, we have had growing intolerance of differing viewpoints, and in political tribalism. In those ways, we have become a little bit like Middle Eastern extremists.
I hope we will be able to turn that around and go in the other direction. I know we are far from being like them, but I would like to be even further away from being like them. Such ways are not enviable.
Frog that’s hyper tolerance multicultural BS. Our culture and country is demonstrably better than Saudi Arabia’s, or Egypt’s, or Iran’s, etc. We should slow our role on immigration, protect what we have, and recognize the truth about Islam – that it is not compatible with Western society.
@frog
True, 60% might be moderate.
What’s this WE need to increase? Who are we? You talking the white mans burden or something ?
It’s naive and rather ethnocentric to believe the west can change people views on religion or that our views are superior.
Regards
Chuck Bennett
It is definitely the moderate Muslim’s burden (not the US’s) to keep the radicals in-check. Saudi Arabia needs to step it up big time.
However, we need to make moderates’ jobs easier by not giving Muslims reasons to hate us, such as by invading their countries, and by supporting and publicizing influential Muslims thta do speak up.
BTW, America IS a rather naive and egocentric culture…. With such a large (people forget only China and India are bigger) and wealthy population (We’re #1!! We’re #1!!), it is expected that we are influential, but we want to micromanage the world – and think we can.
Btn
Saudi Arabia ? Are you kidding?
They believe in stoning , beheading and that gays are dogs and women are second class people who can’t even drive cars.
You really believe in what yours saying. Which is strange because it’s based on how you wish it could be. Not based on facts.
Regards
Chuck Bennett
Lastly,
Yes we are becoming In tolerate.
Because we are finally saying no. We don’t believe in this shit and we are not going to permit it any longer
Nice point
Regards
Chuck Bennett