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Are You Able to Follow the Patterns?

The last time I saw oil stocks get pounded like this, it was the late 90’s and the internet had just been invented. I think people thought they could create their own oil online or something. But the price of crude tapped out around $10. At the time, I was trading internet and oil stocks, so I remember that moment in time as if it was yesterday. No one, and I mean no one, was keen on internet stocks at my firm. Everyone was playing games with Kodak and stupid shit like that. Back to oil: it plunged and I remember taking a 20% loss on one of my holdings, only to see it drop 50% and then another 50%.

Like all massive declines, the precise percentage loss of most oil stocks back then was around 70%, give or take a few points.

The humorous thing about the catastrophe in oil today is the laissez faire  demeanor of the market, generally shrugging it off.

Oh, but before it shrugged it off, it needed to switch up the patterns and GRAPE-RAPE some of you into thinking we’d be in for a late date drop. Well, we dropped and now we’re popping.

See how they changed the pattern on you? You were over there shorting stocks, buying VXX tits like a bird eating seeds. Now you are being slapped in the face with small pieces of bamboo again.

Stocks like GILD, PANW, TRN and FMSA interest me down here. I sold out of my trading position in PANW 13 points higher, so I don’t mind going back to the well. The only issue that I have with buying stocks, other than utilities and REITs, is that they’re probably on the cusp of going much lower. All of these things that you see happening before your eyes isn’t by accident. There is a disease permeating under the surface and will soon strike dead all of those who are exposed.

How can you survive the storm?

The gulf states aren’t panicking as much as you think because oil is priced in dollars. Get it? In a way, the rise in the dollar has hedged much of the downside action in crude.

Here is an outline for what to look for, when allocating new money.

Rate sensitive industries, like utilities and REITs. Avoid banks, as lower yields crushes their margin.

Mega-cap staples yielding greater than 3%.

Bonds

Restaurants

Retail

and lastly airlines.

If this ebola nonsense takes a back seat and the economy remains stable, then airlines will soar. Until we can figure that out, I’d stick with the Utes.

 

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34 comments

  1. zombie

    The Fly is God.

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  2. danny1980

    Thoughts in ACAD here boss man

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  3. matt_bear

    I keep buying BBEP and T.

    Fuck it.

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  4. freebie

    How about XLE down here?

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  5. tradercaddy

    I seem to recall it also as a period of mergers for some of the mega oil companies like BP-Amoco, Chevron-Shell then Chevron/Texaco, Coastal-El Paso, Gulf Canada-Conoco, etc. etc. etc.

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  6. schizo168

    what oil you talking about,snake oil ?

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  7. J Livermore

    That was NOT a good day for bulls, or dare I say “not constructive”. Bunch of longs left in the lurch inside yesterday’s range. More downside awaits.

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  8. ironbird

    Apple looks tired. Need the money to come out of this pig for a real rally to happen.

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  9. clintopotamus

    Question for Fly and Chess: Looks like nat gas might be breaking down out of a bear flag to the low $3’s/mcf. Any way to play that besides DGAZ?

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  10. therealhmmm

    I shrug off the decline in oil. During the 1980s oil glut, oil prices went from $110/bbl in 1980 to the low $20s in 1986. Concurrently the SP500 rose from the low $100s to the low $200s.

    During the next oil spike and plummet in the 1990s, which was tied to the Iraq-Kuwait war and the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Balanced Budget Act, crude jumped to $60/bbl from $30/bbl in October 1990 and dropped fast and then slow to the mid teens per barrel in 1999 when it hit its low point. Over that period the SP500 went from the low $300s to over $1200.

    Now let’s invert and check results to see how the market responds to oil slowly rising. From 1970 through 1980 oil went from the teens to over $100/bbl. The SP500 was down and then finished flat over the 10 yrs.

    Fast forward to 1999 where the new low in oil occurred. From 1999 to 2008 when oil went from the mid-teens to $140/bbl (!) the SP500 over that same period increased about 20%, TOTAL.

    Obviously there are other forces at play but considering crude is 75% used for fuels (gasoline, jet fuel, diesel), it seems like it’s more of a beneficial tailwind to the economy.

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  11. therealhmmm

    I’ve been moderated. Moved long message to twitter.

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  12. Marc David

    “Now you are being slapped in the face with small pieces of bamboo again.” Now that is funny!

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  13. hattery

    Another way to look at energy…
    Energy companies are still where they were 7 years ago (just looking at XLE not including dividends) 7 years of earnings and prospects for growth moving forward and price the same. In 2008-2009 they didn’t even erase 5 years worth of gains (even though the trough to peak decline was more extreme).

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  14. forgetalpha

    Many energy names are more oversold on a daily technical basis today than they have been at any point since in the beginning of 2008. How sustainable is that?

    If this is ETF/HF capitulated flows, aren’t we do for the potential for a nice bounce here?

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  15. steve-0

    “Prices are being manipulated,” state-run Rosneft’s spokesman Mikhail Leontyev said Oct. 12 in an interview with Russkaya Sluzhba Novostei radio. “Saudi Arabia has started offering big discounts on oil. This is political manipulation, manipulation by Saudi Arabia, which can end badly for it” …..”The reason Saudi Arabia cut its crude prices earlier this month was to boost margins for refinery clients and the move didn’t signal rising competition for market share, a person familiar with the nation’s oil policy said last week.” Bloomberg

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-14/putin-loses-his-best-friend-expensive-oil.html

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    • zheeeem

      Not a surprise that Russia would start whining – they have a lot to lose. Fuck ’em.

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    • it is showtime

      Thank u Steve o

      More confirmation on the global games. And it aint the olympics

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  16. zheeeem

    Heck, I’m going to buy more KMI, FLY and CQP. If oil drops below 80, then I will resume buying EOG and WLL.

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  17. ironbird

    Godzilla has taken back 15k with oil stabilized. Get ready. We rally.

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  18. Jesse Livermore's Ghost
    Jesse Livermore's Ghost

    If you insist on playing oil names then Eagle Ford/Permian seem better off than Bakken according to WSJ.

    http://online.wsj.com/articles/fracking-firms-get-tested-by-oils-price-drop-1412899027

    I will stick to the healthiest risk on sectors like tech, biotech, healthcare. I work in healthcare. The amount of money spent there is staggering.

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  19. Rhino

    I got long YELP and XIV today, will be looking to get into PANW and GILD first thing in the morning. What is your, and Chess’s, take on commodities, specifically oil?

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    • Rhino

      When I say “take,” I mean, how do you play this? Expect it to go up and hop in some refiners, or what?

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  20. one-eighty

    Any thoughts on possible takeovers in the railways sector?

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  21. ironbird

    Apparently Asia is sick with Ebola. Futures trapped in an infected hazmat suit trying to win the good fight.

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  22. xxxhuggiebearxxx

    FUTS down 15 handles since AH highs, EBOLA rampaging through the near east and making an assault on the far east. Camels run amuck and killing people on the beach.

    Get ready, 1840 here we come.

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