I went to take a quick gander (nothing too special or time consuming) at previous market slides. Since I believe we are repeating 2000, I took a look at some dot bomb stocks, like JDSU, to get an idea of what we may be in store for. I also took a look at some of the March-May losers of earlier this year, peak to trough, just to get a sense, mind you, of what a person, such as yourself, might be facing.
The results are in.
During the majority of peak to trough ‘situations’, stocks fell no more or less than 70% over a 3 month period. Typically on the 4th month the gimp comes out from the cage and really gives it to the bears. This go around, it appears the damage is being afflicted to energy shares. This might pose a minor problem for you repeat fans out there. Unlike the dot coms and bubble stocks of 2014, the oil stocks have significant earnings power, cash, and assets. I suppose for the sake of clarity, we can forget all of that shit and simply imagine the fires to come.
Doubly unfortunately, even during the kick ass end of western finance days of 2008, the oils never really came down too hard. This is with crude ‘coming in’ (lolz) from $145 to $36. Shares of CXO only dipped a mere 38% during september and october of ’08. At the present, CXO is already down 23% from last month. So, clearly, we have a problem here, as there isn’t a credit crisis or plunging oil price to speak of. I mean, oil has come down, but nothing like it did in ’08.
Making the case for -70% returns in 2014, at least for the oil stocks, is a really hard one. We’d need something spectacular to occur. But even if that did happen, these bastard companies have more money than God and would simply buy up their own shares, whilst sipping on Long Island Iced Teas (fucking bastards).
In summary, if this is 2000 all over again, expect your favorite high beta stocks to decline by 70%. Most of them are already down a cool 35%, so you only have another 35 to go. As for the oils, I’m afraid, and I deeply apologize for this, their downside is somewhat limited from here. The nefarious price action is probably a result of strong headed hedge fund managers playing the stock market game wrong, on margin. Now they’re crying, shitting the bed, and generally getting flushed out of the ballpark.
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I saw CXO got brutalized at the 200MA. But the Saudis increasing production and trying to lock in deals in Asia and Europe with a dash of OPEC divisions has this stuff roiled for sure.
yadda yadda yadda. You are a fucking zebra, writing history for other zebras.
Futures gonna punch some Bears in the nuts tomorrow. Stage is set for a “Ahhhh Titties” kinda bounce here
Fine with me. I want to see some trendline resistance failures. Breakdowns abound.
IS IT SHOWTIME?
Same principle applies to Apple. In the land of no money, the company with 150B cash reserve is king.
Apple has limited downside.
Go scan for companies with high debt/eq levels. Those will be the hardest hit in a deflationary twlight zone
Which a-hole was giving me crap on here about $GDP a week ago? Said it was a POS (the good Dr Fly agreed) and it was down 25%+ today. Sometimes it pays to listen to those geologists…. CXO, PXD, EOG and FANG are your energy champs.
GDP should be +3% this year.
Ha. I see what you did there. Talk about a stupid ticker…
From your icon your name should be Clitopotamous.
SPX 1800-1850 I think.
Why not go lower? Since we’re guessing, I’ll play the game too.
SPX to 900 you fucking faggots. I will buy all of your homes in foreclosure and then toss your furniture into my giant bonfires.
Settle down tiger. We’re on the same team. You’re letting your emotions get the best of you. I’m not bearish, in fact until proven otherwise we are still in a secular bull market.
Who said I was getting ahead? I am simply making a prediction.
For the arithmetically challenged, that extra 35% Sir Fly speaks of means about 50% from here.
Yes, thanks for breaking it down brother.
Another 35 makes it sound easy on the wallet, tho.
1817 would be a 10% correction from the 2019 all time high. I don’t think we see a 20% correction like aug. 2011. Nothing on the currently on the horizon is as serious as nearly defaulting on gov’t debt as was the case in 8/2011 unless something comes out of the blue.
Whoa, time machine flow.
Respect.
Feels like we are close to the bottom but it won’t shoot straight back to new highs like it did in 2013/earlier this year. Some technical damage has been done. But I positive SPX/NDX will be higher than 1874/3808 6-12 months from now. Book it.
Looking at the price action in ACI today. I want to call the bottom on coal names on a gap down tomorrow.
The only bottom for coal is $00.00
Agreed. Buy names/sectors that have been strong for years that have been hit recently. Tech, transports, biotech etc. Why bother with garbage stocks/industries and penny stocks.
This administration is hell bent on bankrupting the coal industry. Stay away unless you’re shorting.
If you insist on playing oil names then Eagle Ford/Permian seem better off than Bakken according to WSJ.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/fracking-firms-get-tested-by-oils-price-drop-1412899027
Breakeven in eagle ford is lower than bakken. EOG is a good play on this. On my list.
EOG best in breed in eagle ford. Great co
Picking a winner amongst a group of losers. Winning strategy, or simply human nature?
rest assured, this aint 2000
So here’s a question then….is it conceivable to consider the cut cut in oil prices to to a tax cut, thus generating revenue and extra $$$ to the working class and literally GIVING them extra money to spend on stupid stuff THUS triggering a ripple effect to the upside???
Does this make any sense?
No, despite seeming to make sense, getting airtime, and actually being positive near term. Oil industry profit warnings, layoffs, credit downgrades etc will trump lower prices at the pump.
Fly, as aheads up, most of my furniture is made of pressed wood and is hard to light.
Piker
I have a feeling there were a lot of forced liquidations today. With the banks closed, no transactions were possible to meet calls. I’m expecting some fresh bids early on tomorrow.
As you lay your head down to sleep this eve, say a little prayer for HuggieBear.
I just prayed for you Huggiebear. As God as my witness, you will be made whole again.
Thank you Brother Prawn….I am building my comeback on a foundation of prayers.
this is a fokin retarded post. You think we are in a 2000 like bubble again? The world was a totally different place. The internet was a new phenomenom. fast fwd 14 yrs, the internet is an essential technology in today’s society and the fake/weak companies have been shaken out long ago. We are in an entirely differnt time period. you are comparing apples and oranges.
Bubble Bubble Toil and Trouble, son.
Bananas?
You are taking it out of context. I already explained my reasoning.
Fuck off
Godzilla needs to hold 15k. The confidence building will be instantaneous.
Futures improving.
I am convinced today was a final “stop run” by some larger entity…take advantage of an extremely low-liquidity day, put a massive sell order in the market can’t absorb right around the 200 day, and what the market collapse as stop orders execute.
And so tomorrow we go bananas to the upside…..I need to size up.
#NOEBOLA
You’re talking gibberish now. Collect yourself son.
Its true, i won’t be sizing up. We need a cure for Ebola to be announced…that will be the trigger for the MOAR
Sheer nonsense
Why the fuck did they have to name the ebolas something so damned sinister sounding? EBOLA
That shit is not helping the situation…
Discovered near Ebola river, that’s why…
but there’s more doom porn regarding Ebola.
http://endtimeheadlines.org/breaking-news/doctor-explains-ebola-spread-air/
AIDS was nicer sounding
Realtalk Ebola won’t become airborne, too big. Mutations would take a very long time unless we hit a lotto of extremely bad luck. There are graphs strongly correlating Ebola to how poor a region in the affected regions are. Basically, the poorer, the more Ebola. Just stop and think, places like Nigeria got a few cases and there is no outbreak. It will be contained, we will heavy hand it. It probably won’t go away for a while in Africa or other extremely poor places, but it’s not going to kill everything!
We need Dustin Hoffman to make a public statement and save us.
Futures melting! Future traders are all high on Molly’s and Old English.
I’m miffed because I didn’t have the balls to get at least a few calls yesterday. Only moved 401k into smallcaps yesterday, meh.
TODAY IS THE DAY! I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE BACK HALF OF MY EGREGIOUS LOSSES AND SEE US CLOSE ABOVE THE 200-DAY.
IT CAN HAPPEN! WITH A POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND A LITTLE PRAYER WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN!
I want to see a nice Bullish Candle over the 200 day!
And the Fear and Greed index at 5 instead of zero…lol
As Bears become jubilant in the face of the gods a beast will come from beneath and spite them!
The Bulls are coming…lol
http://youtu.be/9HGMxZEl60k