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Your Government is Stealing From You

Obamanomics is the equivalent to someone stealing your purse, in order to buy a lethal dose of crack cocaine.

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154 comments

  1. mrkcbill

    Fly is God!

    Jed works at Macy’s

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  2. toptick114

    “You’re Government is Stealing From You”

    Have for some time and continue to do so in the face and blatant!!

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  3. The Fly

    spelling error corrected. i suggest you do the same.

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  4. the prof

    Zach “the middle stooge” Karabell has called the bottom in the market via Marketwatch. If that’s not gay nothing is.

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  5. Sully

    mrkcbill licks ball sack.

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  6. blues

    Obama or any other politician… all these stealing and shit going on will never change until there is a mass revolt… which I see it coming… America is the destruction of middle class right now… if the middle class all go to hell, we going to have a big revolt against current government…

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  7. I Cry BullSHIT

    Who was the F@wad on CNBC this morning, telling Shelby about his party losing. Guy who contributed nothing and looks like he enjoys a good homohammering

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  8. Sully

    mrkcbills licks ball sack.

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  9. Jed

    The Zombie licks mrkcbill’s ball sack

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  10. JakeGint

    Good news for those who voted for Obama I guess.

    Expected news for those of us who did not.

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  11. Maelstrom

    That’s what all cumbersome bureaucratic Governments do…it is impossible to stop as there is no oversight except their own .. Soviet Union same thing happened wasn’t the cold war as much as theft, waste and ineptitude

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  12. little2rich4u

    Developing…developed u r an idiot FLY!

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  13. JakeGint

    UPS boing.

    Hope you sold the 40’s puts too.

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  14. JakeGint

    “Little too Starved for Attention.”

    Key — don’t give it to him. He will wither, and then drop off.

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  15. Dr. Incognito

    All we have done with the banks is create government payed jobs in the private sector.

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  16. mrkcbill

    Obama stole Jed’s purse.

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  17. j

    A large corporate bank did a survey of their customers trying to figure out where consensus is on various questions for this year

    Poll Results
    Where’s the consensus?

    I have gone through each question in turn, laying out the results and then our brief thoughts on what these may mean.

    The most interesting things I took out are as follows:

    Firstly, the level of consensus behind credit being cheap to equities is scary; is this because it is mind-bendingly obvious, or because we are all missing something?

    Secondly, very, very few people are worried about inflation or deflation as a key concern in 2009. Are we (the market) setting ourselves up for a shock in H2?

    Thirdly, very few people would invest in government paper if given $100 now. Suggests strongly that the paucity of yield is starting to act as a real disincentive.

    The last two are pretty interesting.

    The market consensus is that we will have a pretty beingn inflation/deflation setting for the year, yet very few people are prepared to invest in bond markets if they had 100 dollars.

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  18. Jed

    Zombie and mrkcbill are clearly lovers.

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  19. JakeGint

    Firstly, the level of consensus behind credit being cheap to equities is scary;

    Does that mean there’s a consensus on credit (actual traded paper) being “cheap” compared to equities, or credit rates being cheap?

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  20. Looking for a Scapegoat
    Looking for a Scapegoat

    I must replace Bush with Obama

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  21. j

    Jake hi

    Credit/ … paper/ securities.

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  22. TheArtist

    CNBC will give everybody today another fuckery of false hope trying to lift the market. They are already bullshitting us this morning by saying “4Q earnings will be better”

    bullshit…. here are some of the fuckery headlines:

    DR Horton reported a narrower lost than expected!
    (bullshit….due to a one time only set of cost cuts, cost cut are not profits)

    GMAC swings to profit (bullshit….on gain from debt exchange….debt exchange is not “making” money)

    UPS swings to 4Q profit (bullshit…..it is freezing management salaries and suspending its match for its employee 401(k) plans as sales slid 5.2 percent, and its chief warned that 2009 will be very difficult because “the consumer is not spending.”….. i.e. they are not making money)

    this just a few…….

    this is another round of fuckery reports trying to lift the market…..painting lipstick on a fucking pig……

    how can any fucking dumbass think the future of these companies in the near term will be “better” when all they did to “keep in line with estimates” was firing people and selling assets to “save” money and by doing these “one time” events to keep them in line with estimates on a cash basis……

    anyway, any comments on the bullshit “fluffery” welcomed…..

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  23. MOOBER

    Sold GE for slight loss

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  24. ira

    why did I sell my BEAV at 5.50???? Fly was right, just early…..

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  25. Obama_rama_censor
    Obama_rama_censor

    Fly,

    You have been reported to the obama_rama_censor bureau. Expect your blog to be terminated by means of Malware, or Virus of choice in the next 30 days.

    You have been Warned!!!

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  26. T MOE

    Looks like that 819-820 on the S&P and 7900 on the DOW will be well defended a breakdown from these levels and it could get get ugly

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  27. Obama

    Leave my boy Fly alone, he voted for me and he spreads my WORD to the masses.
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  28. j

    is citi the new teacher’s pet.

    Citigroup to deploy $36.5 billion in capital

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – Citigroup Inc, which has received more than $45 billion from the government, said Tuesday it is putting $36.5 billion of capital to work in areas including mortgage lending, student loans and credit cards.
    Citi Details Use of TARP Funds Wall S

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  29. Atlas Vicious

    FLY, thanks for KIM A lot.

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  30. Topper Harley

    ROFL at the Nenner Cycle guy’s prediction on S&P 1100 in the next few weeks.

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  31. TraderCaddy

    If bad home sales news and homies flat line then load em up long. If bad and they tank go take a nap.
    If good news buy fast and then dump.
    IMO

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  32. Lady Guenevere

    **consensus expectation: 0.0%e v -4.0% prior (most analyst estimates range from -2% to +2%)

    *DEC PENDING HOME SALES M/M: 6.3% V 0.0%E
    -Prior revised from -4.0% to -3.7%

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  33. sniper6

    not near as much as I’m stealing from them, HAHAHA!

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  34. ottnott

    We are all stealing from our children.

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  35. stocktard

    the g’ment stealing from me? – how about the bankers, the brokers, the CEO’s, the naked shorters, the lawyers, the doctors, the oil companies, the f*king sheiks, the g*d* car companies, the m*f* car mechanics, the pill companies, Starbucks, my crack supplier…

    who the hell do they think I am

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  36. Staten Island Chuck
    Staten Island Chuck

    they don’t fuck with me

    Chuck

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  37. Braveflaps

    Barclays chief equity guy on Bloomberg this am sez S&P will be down to at least 750 this Q but kept talking about buying consumer discretionaries and industrials at 640, which he thinks is the actual fair value of the market right now…

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  38. T MOE

    XOM is a fucking beast. Thank god I got out of my shorts on her. I will never fuck with XOM again

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  39. JakeGint

    LOL @ “Staten Island Chuck.”

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  40. JakeGint

    UPS — Big Brown taking a big brown dump on the shorts.

    Tightest poopdeck in the pooping bidness.

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  41. TraderCaddy

    This Mr. Mortgage on CNBC is a downer.

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  42. jg

    barclays chief equity guy munches scrotum.

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  43. go2mars

    Obanomics, Obamudget, Obamaburger, O’Bummer, Big O, Mr. B. Hussein, Old Bama; destroyer of cash.

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  44. TheArtist

    man DRYS is all over the place….. down 30% one day up 30% the next down 30% the day after that… up again 30% the day after that…… ??????? fucking make up you mind people.

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  45. T MOE

    Financials looking weak. BAC shitting the bed again. oils holding this bitch flat. XOM like a lot of days is the tell

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  46. charlie

    Watch out! FAZ picking up speed.

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  47. DEVILDOG

    I see dead bulls…etc…

    NEW LOWS NEXT WEEK.

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  48. death in vegas

    WYNN getting it’s daily beating

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  49. Lady Guenevere

    February 03, 2009:
    DryShips, Inc Reaches preliminary agreement for covenant waiver and deferral of loan installments
    – Has reached an in principle agreement with Piraeus Bank, one of its largest lenders, to restructure its two loan facilities in the original aggregate principal amount of $220.0M with current outstanding $164.9M
    – As part of the restructuring, caused in large part by the failure of certain buyers to conclude the agreed purchase of three vessels, the basic terms will provide for: (1) a waiver regarding financial and asset coverage covenants through January 1, 2011; (2) an increased applicable margin; (3) an amendment fee; (4) rescheduling the loan principal amortization by reducing the principal repayments by about 47% and 21% in 2009 and 2010, respectively, and reducing the tenor of the loan. The agreement is preliminary and is subject to execution of definitive documents, providing, inter alia, for substantial reduction of the loan should the three vessels be disposed, and formal approval by Piraeus Bank”s Credit Committee.

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  50. the prof

    time to take profits on UPS… 6% (25% of capital)… with a special thanks to my wife who explained that Fed-Ex trucks had vanished from the neighborhood while UPS was still hiring extra help over the holiday season.

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  51. porta john

    hey fly
    did you sneek into detroit.

    http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090129/METRO08/901290400

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  52. dave

    Shippers fucked.
    Manufacturers fucked.
    Basic materials/commodities fucked.
    Housing fucked.
    You name it, fucked.

    Bad things happen in a parabolic run-up in a lot of these underlying stocks.

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  53. Braveflaps

    That DRYS deal reps only about 15% of the covenants its in violation of right now…

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  54. mrkcbill

    porta,

    my new screensaver.

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  55. Neil Sedaka

    Bennet Sedacca

    09:25:00 AM

    No positions in stocks mentioned.

    More CDO’s taken to wood shed

    Yep, now it is S&P’s turn to take the ax to CDO’s.

    I wrote the other day that Moody’s had downgraded nearly 1900 trances of nuclear waste (oops, they were AAA when issued but NOW they are nuclear waste). Not to be upstaged, S&P last night downgraded 3307 (yep three thousand three hundred and seven) CDO tranches. Many to D. As in default.

    This is the problem with the good bank/bad bank issue.

    You just never know when this garbage will be downgraded. A lot.

    And it is why the bad bank will likely never be formed–at least not the way it is being talked about at present.

    Risks, in credit, despite calls to the contrary, remain as high as ever.

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  56. Flux Capacitor

    Quit bitching! You voted for him!

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  57. JakeGint

    Prof — nice take.

    Unfortunately, I am cee-mented, no CONCRETED in — to that mofo.

    So I will just take my puts sold profits and stay on.

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  58. Aristotle

    Interestingly enough, the Baltic Dry Index has rebounded off its lows…most unexpected.

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  59. JakeGint

    Here’s a hint: If even the most one track of simpletons are watching the Trannies for Dow confirmations, then you KNOW they are going to get messed with.

    To the tune of “writing it down” proportions.

    Keep an eye on the trannies gem’man.

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  60. jakeglint

    just a thought… I’m out because best I can tell what’s running this thing up is the fact that they’re suspending 401k matching contribution which IMO is a move that will ultimately take it lower. also they’re going to be very vulnerable to the jobs number coming up, and don’t forget they’re adjusting birth/death model which may be egg on the face of Zach Karabell’s of the world…

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  61. the prof

    that was me up there…

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  62. JakeGint

    From the Detroit corpse story:

    Closer inspection revealed that the rest of the body was encased in 2-3 feet of ice, the body prostrate, suspended into the ice like a porpoising walrus.

    Two observations:

    1) One wonders why the reporter didn’t choose to describe the body as suspended like a “walrusing porpoise,” and

    2) The article mentions 19,000 homeless in the dead of winter in Detroit. Those are some tough ass homeless. You homeless in De-troit, you ain’t no San Diego pussy.

    (No offense to Danny and Ottnot, of course. But if you are going to be without a home, why not go to where it’s warm to bum around?)

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  63. JF

    This market has become very psychotic, bi-polar, and dysfunctional.
    It’s giving me homicidal tendencies.

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  64. JakeGint

    “Jakeglint” —

    Here’s a thought. If you want to be taken seriously, choose a less antagonistic name.

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    As for your thesis, you make a good case. However, as I already explained, I can no more sell my UPS position than I can give away one of my children (believe me, the thought has crossed my mind to go two for two on that one).

    So all I can do is hedge as best I can, and keep my basis as low as its always been.

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  65. porta john

    he just fell asleep while ice fishing

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  66. Lady Guenevere

    (US) Obama administration notes its “great concern” over the Iranian satellite launch
    – The French and British governments have also voiced their concern this morning over the Iranian actions.
    ****

    REALLY? Lets see what this New Age reincarnation of Abe Lincoln (Obama) does with all the world’s aggression. But of course what harm can a satellite do… they will say.

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  67. the prof

    it’s ups v bac, ups with an upper cut to the jaw, but bac is determined, he’s swinging blindly, convinced that if it can only get to that all time low of 5.05 it can pull the whole house down on its head…

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  68. JakeGint

    Don’t blame Fly, he voted for… oh shit, yeah. He voted for Obama.

    “Doesn’t matter,” dontcha know?

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  69. JakeGint

    TBT shredding short nutsack again. I smell bbq’d Dawg.

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  70. Dinosaur Trader

    Obama has been in office for all of 2 weeks. Wouldn’t you say we’re still feeling the effects of Bushonomics at this point?

    -DT

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  71. govtbonds

    I predict that Obama will be worst than Jimmy Carter and David Dinkins put together. Many people voted for Obama in protest, were they protesting themselves. Obama is all flash no substance.

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  72. Lady Guenevere

    Obama has been carefully manufactured and groomed for years by the power elite to do THEIR bidding. The PR machine carefully marketed him so that the young and naive would vote for him. They targeted the 20/30 year olds knowing their lack of experience and knowledge of how the world works would be to their advantage.

    The New Agers and old hippies jumped on board naturally because he stands for ‘no real truth’ only shades of gray, no real right or wrong, just a consensus of what should be by the power elite.

    A protest to Obama or both parties for that matter would have been to NOT VOTE for a president.

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  73. go2mars

    I was hoping most of the stimulus packages would go toward protecting and furthering space assets. To pre-emptively deal with issues like Iranian Intercontinental ballistic nukes (early and from orbit), or Chinese anti-satellite satellites. Oh, and to further science and benefit all of mankind.

    End of transmission from Mars.

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  74. T MOE

    The financials want to drag this bitch down but the oil names won’t let go. Money again flowing out of financials into energy and tech. I guess the market can rally without financials, but still think there will be a pull back if financials don’t start taking part

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  75. go2mars

    All the Iranians would need is one small bomb on the top of that rocket to cause a lot of mischief. And once you have enriched up to weapons grade, they are easy to build. It’s the enrichment that’s the difficult step. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_nuclear_program_of_Iran Iran has a well developed enrichment program (3000 uranium gas centrifuges), and many samples of weapons grade have been found in Iran by inspectors. Iran has proven amounts of weapons grade uranium, and an enormous stockpile of reactor-grade, which can easily be converted by further processing in their 3000 units to weapons grade. It may be a pride thing to have the weapons. Hopefully they don’t plan to implement them.

    See these dates on the wikipedia site listed above:
    Aug 10, 2004,
    Feb 2, 2007,
    April 9, 2007,
    Dec 11, 2007,

    If they start to mass-manufacture these small orbital rockets for their space program, then look out. In roughly two years, the Germans used about 20000 Jewish slaves to construct 5200 V2 rockets. About half of these Jews died in the process. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-2_rocket
    The comparatively small V2 could only go 320 km, with a 2200 pound payload (more than sufficient for a small nuclear device). The Iranian rocket can go anywhere in the world, with an undisclosed payload size.

    Iran has been kicking out enrichment inspectors for years. And it’s unpopular nowadays to invade on suspicion of WMD. For that matter, what the heck was Iraq doing with 550 tons of Yellowcake when they had not a single nuclear reactor for power generation? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/

    End of Transmission from Mars

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  76. MOOBER

    +1 Dinosaur Trader. Let’s give the guy a minute!

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  77. TheArtist

    Obama-shmama-shamwow-ics……. lets talk about real issues, like, what’s for lunch?

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  78. Juice

    Kass has turned into a chart-monkey.

    Doug Kass
    Medco and Microsoft Sporting Sweet Charts
    2/3/2009 10:40 AM EST
    Amid the gloom, I am seeing some very good charts developing — for instance, Medco Health Solutions (MHS) and Microsoft (MSFT).

    Position: Long MHS and MSFT

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  79. Sullen

    Baltic dry bounce not so unexpected; my favorite story is shipping customers with long term agreements took baths in the secondary markets trying to resell surprise unneeded capacity. Dead cats do bounce. And live ones can survive landings at terminal velocity.

    Screw Geitner/Obama for not creating ‘good banks’- Willem Buiter has a fine case for this beyond its blindingly obvious appeal. But hey, all those perps who ran off after steering their industry off a cliff will still be able to make a campaign contribution. Oh let’s punish the 5 people called ‘execs’ while they hand out billions of taxpayer bux as bonuses under the pretext we’re going to get back to normal. These ‘execs’ know damn well their future is in perfecting a congressional quality reacharound technique.

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  80. Henry Fool

    SQNM add @ 18.98 stop @ 18.90 on whole position!!!

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  81. Triathlete

    Michael Phelps a loser. I hope the media drags him through the mud for years. Way to set a good example for our youth Michael. Oh yeah, way to go helping the good name of professional swimming.

    Shippers on the move, TBSI & EXM

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  82. CAP

    Financials are going to bring the market down today. BAC looks horrible. Where is DONNY making fun of my BAC short ? BAC will see sub $5 before this week is over.

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  83. Henry Fool

    How do I keep Banking Coin?

    Not afraid to trade! Load on SQNM @ 19

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  84. charlie

    Phelps new theme song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYQHqLuWuig

    Love that song, although I haven’t been around the stuff for months.

    Today is odd. My EEV position is red for the day while my FAZ position is sticky icky green.

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  85. The Fox

    Triathlete-

    Get a fucking life you hypocrite. Phelps made a mistake. Big deal. He didn’t hurt anyone. Just be glad some of the fucked up shit you did hasn’t been plastered over CNN. Imagine if people knew what you did to that goat?

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  86. hughhewitt

    things would be soooo much better if McCain/Palin had won. If only Uncle Hank and his boys were still running the show things would be just fine. If only the congress and senate were controlled by Newt, Denny, and Trent this would not be happening. This is all Obama’s fault.

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  87. 4fl3x

    MI having a good day, only down 18%…

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  88. Jeff Macke

    Did I really just hear the Senator say a provision in the Stimuloser bill about all homeowners with at least 5% equity will qualify for an Obama subsidized 4.25% mortgage from Jamie Dimon?

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  89. Flux Capacitor

    go2mars –

    Cumulative NASA budget, over 50 years, inflation adjusted: $806 billion

    Giveaway to the bankers, in ONE DAY last fall: $800 billion

    Looking at it another way – we could put FIFTY copies of the ISS in orbit and operate them for years, just with the TARP money.

    Shows you where the priorities are.

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  90. TheArtist

    Fly, who won ASSHAT of the month for January? when will you crown them? will you post pictures? will you present them a real trophy?

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  91. blogspot.com

    anyone else get their blog hacked this weekend?

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  92. T MOE

    All of this talk about the huge amounts of cash on the sidelines. I think that this is a lot of hype. The massive losses taken last year, the Madoff fuckery, the losses in, 401k’s mutual funds, hedge funds, Pension funds. And sovereign wealth funds from the drop in oil. Where is all this cash? Where can I find that info.
    I think it may be a load of bullshit

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  93. SatanicChihuahua

    Why should Phelps be held to a higher standard than Obama? There’s a youtube vid of Obama taking a jab at Bill Clinton’s admission about pot smoking where Obama says something to the effect, “yes I inhaled, alot, that’s the whole point”.

    Phelps was one of the best things for Americans last year. People need to lay off him. It’s not like he’s in a position to affect Americans way of life for generations.

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  94. the prof

    bac breaks 5, market will end 178 down….

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  95. TheArtist

    T MOE, you are right…… the stupid fucking hosts on CNBC are so fucking ignorant. What they are touting as “cash on the sidelines” is mearly this:

    A hedge fund, which in 2006 had 200 billion in the fund, all invested in the market less 5% in cash.

    This same hedge fund in 2008, reduced in value to 140 billion with a 30% cash position from sales at losses but wanting more cash.

    but this cash, is from a 60 billion dollar loss but yet is an increase in the funds “cash position” of an increase of 25%…..but reality is it is a loss for the fund.

    the “cash on the sidelines” is another blatant attempt by the asshats at CNBC to try to get the viewers to “believe” there is a magical pot of cash somewhere out there waiting to pounce….. total CNBC fuckery at it’s best……..

    The “cash on the sidelines” is mearly what is “left” of what people “used” to have…….

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  96. go2mars

    Flux Capacitor:

    It drives a space geek to drink.

    End of transmission from Mars.

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  97. CAP

    A lot of that cash on the sidelines is for expected redemptions. Its not going to be coming back into the market.

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  98. mdawsz

    The talking heads on CNBC today should be arrested.

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  99. Henry Fool

    SQNM… dumb ass stock!

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  100. mdawsz

    Whoa!

    http://www.usaservice.org/

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  101. Fly,
    Can you go for lunch, so the market pops for an hour?

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  102. TheArtist

    CAP yes, to your point, a large percent of this “cash on the sidelines” is waiting to be refunded to investers getting out, and it will not be coming back into the market,

    again, CNBC asshat lying fuckery at it’s highest form trying to convince the viewers there is again a magical pot of cash just waiting to fill the 6000 DJIA loss.

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  103. anjing bau

    RE the TBT…the TLT keeps probing lower I believe the buy American rider isn’t being well received abroad and the longer dated bonds are being sold and to my mind that money is going home…. didn’t Smoot Hawley or the trade wars at the end on the 1900’s teach the present generation anything?

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  104. go2mars

    Fly said it best. “Your government is stealing from you.”

    I would add, “and from the sperm your kid will one day make.”

    Generations down the line from today are being robbed in a major way by this grotesque mismanagement.

    Mars.

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  105. Juice

    Tri-Geek : Phelps is a kid … nothing wrong with a bong hit, now & again …. if you had your head underwater for 4-5 hours a day, you’d need some kind of release. Swimmers at that age are some of the biggest partyers around. I’ve had some friends who were national caliber swimmers & some olympians, big partyers … nearly every one of them.

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  106. JakeGint

    Obama has been in office for all of 2 weeks. Wouldn’t you say we’re still feeling the effects of Bushonomics at this point?

    There’s no question damage was done on Bush’s watch.

    The market’s a forward discounting device, however, and it cratered when President Obama was elected.

    It continues to discount.

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  107. Neil Sedaka

    Bennet Sedacca

    11:25:00 AM

    No positions in stocks mentioned.

    Is the tail wagging the dog?

    As I sit here and watch CDO’s being downgraded by the thousand, many large regional banks (Regions Financial (RF), Fifth Third (FITB), Huntington Bancshares (HBAN), SunTrust (STI), Marshall & Ilsley (MI) among many others) act like the world is about to end. And the unemployment picture. And the debt picture.

    I see futures bidders show back up. Yep, at critical levels. Without regard to price.

    I sense ‘the Hand’ is back.

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  108. The Contractor

    Seriously, who gives a flying crap sandwich that Phelps smoked some pot? I mean the kid is an american success story and has worked hard for what he has and since he took a bong hit all of that is gone? It’s all fine and dandy if he has a budweiser or a bourbon though I’m sure. Land of the free my ass you fucking hypocrites.

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  109. Dinosaur Trader

    Yeah, who gives a shit about Phelps. If you want a good role model for your kid, start with yourself.

    Again, turn of the TV…

    -DT

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  110. The Zombie

    Mr KC Bill: Nice work. Thank you.

    Jed: We’ve been here since the old Fly blog, over two years.
    You’ve been here for two weeks. We were just fine without you and your drivel. For the sake of God’s blog, please go back to lurking.

    The Fly is God.

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  111. Flying Crap Sandwich
    Flying Crap Sandwich

    I noticed my contractor smoking a reefer while doing an extensive remodel on my house last week.

    Talked it over with my wife and before I fired him he cut off his hand.

    Smoke a j and call it a day.

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  112. JakeGint

    Moonber says: +1 Dinosaur Trader. Let’s give the guy a minute!

    His first minute he used our tax money to pay for Third World abortions.

    FAIL.

    “WTF happened to you, man?”

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  113. observer

    another admin nomination withdraws for tax reasons

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  114. CAP

    “The market’s a forward discounting device, however, and it cratered when President Obama was elected.

    It continues to discount.”

    So Jake, if the market rallies from here, perhaps you’ll ‘blame’ that on Obama too ? 🙂

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  115. JakeGint

    It’s all fine and dandy if he has a budweiser or a bourbon though I’m sure. Land of the free my ass you fucking hypocrites.

    Raise your hand if you’re sick and tired of this cliched argument.

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  116. RaznCane

    Bought 1000 AMR @ 5.71

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  117. JakeGint

    So Jake, if the market rallies from here, perhaps you’ll ‘blame’ that on Obama too ?

    No, I will “credit” President Obama, if he is responsible.

    Right now, the market knows the looters have run of the store,and the POTUS’s top priority is making sure women in Muslim Africa have access to an American operation that would get them stoned to death were they found to have had one. Score one for “cultural relations.”

    Not good for bidness.

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  118. The Contractor

    It doesn’t invalidate the argument, Jake.

    Have you ever watched intervention on A&E? Some of the worst of the lot of those poor souls are raging alcoholics.

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  119. The Contractor

    Or fuck, how about tobacco? Yeah, it makes perfect sense that you can smoke yourself to death on a substance with no known health benefits but marijuana will get you locked up with violent criminals.

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  120. Walter Cronkite

    I was going to be Lord Obama’s Press Guy but I haven’t paid my taxes in 35 years.

    And that’s the way it is.

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  121. jg

    can we get a moment of silence….for this small chronic break

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  122. sniper6

    With Phelps’s money, he oughtta be using a vaporizer. A lot easier on the lungs & heart that way.

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  123. buycks and roberson
    buycks and roberson

    dinosaur give credit where credit is due. we remember way back when in 1994 a young man represented us in our case against citibank. I believe his name was barrack obama. this cadaver of an economy has his fingerprints all over it.

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  124. JakeGint

    Contractor —

    And yet, booze is legal and pot is not.

    Work to “legalize it, don’t criticize it” and then booze and pot will be on equal footing.

    Until then, don’t tell me about hypocrisy. Legal standing is “kinda sorta” a big deal.

    For the record — I don’t see a big deal in legalizing it, I’m just sick of hearing the hypocrisy statement.

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  125. JakeGint

    Contractor: Same argument for cigs.

    Plus, the bonus:

    Pot makes you crave Doritos and cigs make you eschew them.

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  126. TraderCaddy

    Yes Citi should break the deal with the NY Mets and sign a new one with Michael Phelps.

    Even swap.

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  127. Gwar

    Kids try weed, no doubt. He can repent and move on…

    Really though, Phelps is a dumb ass. How much money will this cost him and possibly his sponsors who have got to be embarressed (& screwed) having his face plastered all over their ads.

    Kinda sucks now that this subject will come up when I talk about the Olympics w/ my family/friends. Its better to have a great american story untainted. Oh well

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  128. sniper6

    For all of you believing that Obama’s rise to the presidency has been scripted, may I suggest a read of Robert Ludlum’s “The Icarus Agenda”. A similar storyline, at least in that regard.

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  129. TheArtist

    does anyone else here besides me see GE at 2.00 dollars right along side GM now at 2.00 dollars?

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  130. Dr. Incognito

    Doesn’t that argument just prove that alcohol and cigarettes should be illegal contractor?

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  131. The Contractor

    I am working to legalize it, jake. Both through voting and advocacy groups.

    No matter, it will be legal eventually. Our underfunded and overcrowded prison systems will ensure that.

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  132. CAP

    There goes the financials. If XLF breaks $8.9 its over.

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  133. MOOBER

    Fly/Danny: I am glad I sold that fracking GE. Looks like a turd about to be flushed. Thanks for the CDO heads up. How can I find this info myself? Is there a website or report that publishes it?

    _____________

    Jake – knat vs. camel.

    Do I like that aspect of the stimulus? Hell no.

    Do I like that the guy is hitting the ground running and trying to make some stuff happen? Hell yes.

    I’ll take imperfect but proactive action over paralysis and ideology.

    The guy inherited a unprecedented shit storm. Let’s give him a minute to see if he can get his legs and make something happen, that’s all am saying.

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  134. The Contractor

    Yes, Dr. Incognito, if you are the type who believes in protecting me from myself then it does. However I believe an individual should have the freedom to do what thou wilt as long as it doesn’t effect anyone else.

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  135. Lady Guenevere

    Jake I am sure I would have a heart attack if I could see all the useless give away pork and programs the DEMS are putting in that stimulus bill. This is their ‘ MECCA MOMENT” -this is the one time in history where the DEMS have free reign and unlimited money to do every single socialist program, pork program and social-altering program they ever wanted to do! The American people are ripe for the picking.

    Money will go to destroying the use of coal -oil, not drinking soft drinks, eating no meat, getting rid of my BMW and everyone else’s cars and only driving hybrids, no more large homes -we will all have to live in rammed earth solar homes and wear cannabis clothes. Our guns will be taken away and replaced with legalized Pot while cigarettes are banned. Sex in every form will be tolerated, In God we Trust will be eliminated, fat people will be hauled off to fat farms to pick fruit in the fields, the North American Union will form, socialized medicine will be installed, the quality of health care will deteriorate, taxes will be 70% and many of the things Ayn Rand warned us about will come true.

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  136. charlie

    FAZ continuing to heat up. Buying another block or two today.

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  137. Yogi & Boo Boo

    Phelps blew it plain and simple. This is about image not about whether or not kids try pot. If I had a endorsement contract with this dope, I’d pull it based on the morals clause in the contract. If the contract didn’t have a morals clause in the contract, I’d fire my attorney.

    If I’m trying to sell Wheaties in this economy and my customers can buy house brands, why should I pay Phelps to piss off a bunch of moms trying to keep their kids straight and clean?

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  138. charlie

    Lady G, your posts are boring, uninformative, and confused. Go find another blog to pester.

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  139. TX Slave Trader

    The Fly was on a coke bender last night into early this morning and is currently getting his much needed rest. He may post before the bell, but maybe not.

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  140. CAP

    Money will go to destroying the use of coal -oil, not drinking soft drinks, eating no meat, getting rid of my “BMW and everyone else’s cars and only driving hybrids, no more large homes -we will all have to live in rammed earth solar homes and wear cannabis clothes. Our guns will be taken away and replaced with legalized Pot while cigarettes are banned. Sex in every form will be tolerated, In God we Trust will be eliminated, fat people will be hauled off to fat farms to pick fruit, the North American Union will form, socialized medicine will be installed, the quality of health care will deteriorate, taxes will be 70% and many of the things Ayn Rand warned us about will come true.”

    Lady G – Not all of that sounds bad. ‘..Fat people will be hauled off to fat farms to pick fruit..’. I like the sound of that.I’m very Fataphobic. Won’t have to see fat fuckers anymore.

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  141. The Contractor

    Yeah, this is the way the system is, deal with it.

    Raise your hand if you’re tired of that cliched argument.

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  142. jg

    so contractor, if we all should be free to smoke cigs and slang dope all day, should we also be free to pay for our own healthcare?

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  143. zephler

    MT strong today!

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  144. The Contractor

    We already are, jg. I don’t believe in socialized health care. I don’t believe in socialized anything.

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  145. jg

    fair enough.

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  146. T MOE

    Buying SKF at around 120 has to be one of my best trades so far this year. Along with short COF from 34. Until they announce some kind of miracle program the banks are fucked.

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  147. sniper6

    I am pro choice on everything. Buying more CX here, sub $8.00

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  148. hmmmmmm

    I could see Michael Phelps sitting in a corner of his apartment in a USA windbreaker unzipped with crumbs all over it giggling at himself with a microphone headset mumbling, “ha ha ha, Doritos dude, I’m like sooo Rosetta Stoned.”

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  149. sniper6

    hmmmm- he’ll probably be trying to peel the gold foil off his Olympic medals, looking for chocolate

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  150. DEVILDOG

    Jake, thanks for the heads up on the trannies. You’re very smart to have noticed it all by yourself. BTW, how old are you anyway?

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  151. govtbonds

    Lady Guenevere, I totally agree with you. Obama pandered to the blacberry, ipod, give me a new toy crowd. He scares the crap out of me. He wants to empty Gitmo, where to? Rikers Island. The characters he has chosen to help him lead us into Obamnation befuddles me. I predict we will run out of ink for all the funny money being made. The only people who will benefit from the Obama plan will be the wefare & food elite.

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  152. JakeGint

    I’ll take imperfect but proactive action over paralysis and ideology.

    How does what he’s done thus far give you any basis in that belief?

    Paralysis = done nothing w. regard to the banking crisis.

    Ideology = first job, abortions for my Third World friends, courtesy your tax dollar, then let’s spend on a bunch of stupid pork and call it “stimulus!” Look how the market agrees!

    Geez.

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  153. JakeGint

    Jake, thanks for the heads up on the trannies. You’re very smart to have noticed it all by yourself. BTW, how old are you anyway?

    Young enough to know the Viet Nam vets were the good guys.

    Old enough to have studied more history after college than before it.

    (prolly about 15 years behind you, give or take).

    PS — you’ve not been here as long, so you’re forgiven, but Wood and I called the heads up on the Tranny/Dow theory confirmation back in November of 2007.

    The key word is “confirmation.”

    The next key word is “swing low.”

    Sweet chariot.

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  154. MOOBER

    Jake, I don’t want to argue. I understand your position. We disagree on less than you may be inclined to believe.

    I appreciate your virtual internet friendship.

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