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NO EDGE IN A RANGE

gotnoedgeThe only good take away from where prices sit right now is that you are at the mid-point of this range we’ve been tracking. Wit a bullish bias, there’s a buy in here to take you back to the upper end of the range. If you are a bear, there’s a decent short back to the lows.

The volatility instruments are saying the same. Insurance is pricey now, but the coiling in the VIX says we pop soon. Gold is slowly leaving its range, and the Yen is slowly giving back last nights move.

The Russell, which has been stronger as of late, just gave back a monster move here intra-day. We haven’t seen this type of action in quite awhile, so how it closes today ought to tell a story.

Under the surface, we got some risk on stocks leading, and some set-ups developing on the lower time frame that should create good movement later in the week, or even early next week.

I picked up SPLK calls this morning and watching FDX here.

OA

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74 comments

  1. bchu12

    Gpro…. Don’t touch that shit. Ruining my year

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    • og

      Yup…

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    • TheHarper

      HAHAHAHAHAHAH

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    • Geezer

      stay put, we will have the final laugh after the earnings! I may add to my position if it goes further down!

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      • og

        Ummm, yeah here’s your chance. Wow.

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        • bchu12

          seriously. this is a POS market hype stock. Earnings will crush and stock will tank i bet. haha

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          • geezer

            I usually save the usernames of people like you in stocktwits and come back later to haunt them down! I won`t be able to do it here so make sure to come here after the earnings! Don`t hide!

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      • TheHarper

        you dolt. Of COURSE they will beat. That’s what happens when you overload your channels and deplete your stock of product.

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  2. Taxmonster

    Sold PSUN yesterday and TLYS today. Moved them into FCX and BAS. Wish me luck.

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  3. ffunluving

    @gasman or OA, do you agree with the following?
    There are some big expirations coming in the world of crude futures. In short, it means those aforementioned savvy investors will be getting into the oil market in the next week or so. With that buying and selling comes volatility. “We could see a rip as high at $50 in the near term,”

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  4. chiefton15

    this could get ugly.

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  5. chiefton15

    run for the hills!

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  6. Quality Control Inferno
    Quality Control Inferno

    How this action can make anyone feel bullish is beyond me. Sell rips, sell dips.

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  7. Jacked Rabbit

    I do not see the need to pursue depreciating assets here.

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  8. pyromonoxide

    love the old Conan shot!

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  9. Quality Control Inferno
    Quality Control Inferno

    Go ITM then on puts to reduce the extrinsic value. That’s what I did on YHOO, FEYE and SPLK.

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  10. linmoo

    About to tag upper end of VIX range at 22. 2% market swing on literally no news except lower oil. Position trading options is dead until further notice.

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    • Quality Control Inferno
      Quality Control Inferno

      Not to go all zero hedge on anyone but Bulls have been ignoring warning signs for weeks.

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  11. Billy Cutting

    So this is fun…

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  12. chiefton15

    hard to position on such an aggressive move….we are going lower but it’s hard to pull trigger after this move. would love to see a little bit of buying to add shorts but so would everyone else.

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  13. duckkell

    went all cash…let me know when someone has a viable idea..going to eat a sammich

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  14. rormilt

    Long HAL Calls

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  15. daveh

    0 for last 10 trades. Stopped out 100%. Trendlines mean nothing. You can’t win playing the tight stop below support game. Everything is trading below support before it bounces. Waiting for volatility to go away…

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    • alty

      That’s because all these “rules” don’t mean anything. It is no different than astrology. It’s a game set up to make wall street and uncle Sam rich. The sooner you stop playing it, the more comfortable your twilight years will be.

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      • Option Addict

        Rules change in different environments as well.

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        • daveh

          Not sure what “rules” you guys are referring to but I’m talking about taking positions at good locations and placing stops. Good risk management which is a must in all environments.

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        • alty

          How would you know which rules to use in which environment, until after the fact?

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          • Option Addict

            There are environment changes in high volatility/low volatility environments. Once you’ve seen one, you know how to adjust. As simple as going from trend mode, to mean reverting movements. Using longer term time frames in low vol environments, to short term time frames in high vol environments. That stuff…

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  16. chiefton15

    bought the VXX 35.12

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  17. chiefton15

    feels crashy.

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  18. thomasjefferson

    Punted $FCX and some other depressing items (still holding $SCCO). The gold exposure dragging FCX down before doesn’t seem to be doing much to hold it up now. Finally rebuilt my cash position to deploy, with some capital losses to make up.

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  19. shanefin

    and crude goes green. its like market is mocking us…

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    • chiefton15

      crude has already done it’s damage, if it rally’s it won;t matter.

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      • shanefin

        chiefton, much respect for you! I am exhausted just watching…

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        • chiefton15

          yeah this is hard work! Haven’t hit a big one yet but I’m holding the VXX overnight and want to short the NQ.

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          • shanefin

            what do you want to see to decide whether to hold NQ short overnight or close?

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  20. nocturne

    During the oil sell off it has taken 2 -3 days to engulf a prior days’ loss. As of 3:27 pm the prior days’ losses may be engulfed in one trading day. Lightening my oil short. Not going long yet.

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  21. nocturne

    Then after the 2 – 3 days the selling resumed. Forgot to add that.

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  22. Quality Control Inferno
    Quality Control Inferno

    USD/JPY closing below the 50 DMA would not be a good thing for Bulls. Another one to watch tonight.

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  23. linmoo

    Well, look at that. Just another Dow 40 day. Lol.

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  24. shawnji

    One quick scalp on the F puts. Should have sold my Jan 40 CRTOs early in the day for a break even. It looks like they quite possibly will go to 0.

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  25. MSGT HARTMAN

    We’re in a bull until a Republican becomes pres, then expect two years of crash before a real recovery ensues. If it’s Hillary, then QE continues ad infinitum, or ad nauseum, however you look at it.
    This is not a political statement so please don’t get worked up about it.

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  26. bchu12

    May the crash resume tomorrow morning

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  27. chiefton15

    if 4140 cracks here it’s lights out.

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  28. chiefton15

    this right here is the bears chance to change this market for the whole year…not to sound dramatic but today is big for either side.

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  29. ThomasJefferson

    I feel like it’s becoming the inevitable conclusion. Which is why I shall have to get long, because every instinct I have is wrong (still channeling my inner Costanza, it’s been working)

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  30. chiefton15

    called it and positioned for it.

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  31. Just short

    OA was still looking at long setups last night…ouch

    All the warning signs were there for a crash.

    …got SPY puts? 🙂

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    • Option Addict

      Yep, and I bought here this morning too.

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      • chiefton15

        ballsy move. Today is huge, if the bulls hang on today I will reassess at the end of day. You go stocks or market?

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      • ThomasJefferson

        OA: Contrarian Investor. Who’d’ve thunk it? Still Holding this Friday’s $SCTY calls with some trepidation ($48’s). Hoping for an upward swing just to keep the idiots out of the comments. Glad I sold $FCX yesterday. Still holding $SCCO for a small position. Do you have any change in medium term view on copper OA?

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  32. chiefton15

    the sellers came in yesterday around 1030 -11 after an early ramp. Lets see how today plays out

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  33. Little Lucca

    Sellers right on que! holding SPY puts.

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  34. rangersfan

    In regards to the WTI – Brent spread narrowing, can someone(s) please explain the relevance of this, and it’s impact on the refiners who are getting a$$ rammed the past two sessions. Thank you.

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  35. linmoo

    I have no desire to trade anything right now. I have no edge. VIX broke out…could retest or break down back into the range. Hard to believe the Jan OPEX puts and calls will pay off either way.

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  36. Krono

    Conditioned dip buyers getting their heads handed to them today after the morning bounce. Change of character finally as the Bears come out of hibernation.

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    • Option Addict

      No they aren’t you stupid fuck. Your declaration of victory at the opening print illustrates how bears still manage to take it in the ass in the end. Nice work on the bottom tick.

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  37. Krono

    Most excellent call chieftain!

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  38. Quality Control Inferno
    Quality Control Inferno

    Props Chiefton. Puts paying well. I’m definitely going ITM on any new trades with VIX doing what it’s doing.

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  39. hesitation

    I think we rally in the afternoon. Iwm Google Nflx Tesla Gild I’m long

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    • Quality Control Inferno
      Quality Control Inferno

      Gotta say, the bottom looks ready to fall out here. Maybe not today but soon.

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  40. berniecornfeld

    I would like a little bounce…I am not nearly short enough

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