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If the Economy is Doing Great, Then Why is the Yield Curve Flattening Out?

The inversion of the yield curve has predicted every recession since the beginning of time, dating back a whole 6,000 years–according to my King James bible. Today’s jobs report was so fantastic, it caused a frantic circle jerking run to the upside. People are stampeding over one another to get a piece of the pie, like greedy little gluttons trapped in a house made from chocolate bars.

But then I swing on over to the bond page in Exodus and bear witness to our beloved yield curve, shrinking to new lows–now just 75 bps.

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The smart money says otherwise. This is your Braveheart moment. Observe.

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27 comments

  1. peso trader

    I do have to admit the employment number “saves the day” for the fed so many times its getting comical

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    • sethster99

      Does the employment number take into account part time vs full time employment? Reason I ask is that it looks like anyone who’s anyone is about to convert all full time hourly employees to part time.

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      • peso trader

        Yes, part time and temporary workers are counted as employed. The BLS typically contacts about 60k people each month to form their “sampling” statistic.

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        • it is showtime
          it is showtime

          Meaning no. They are each counted as: 1.

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        • NON Solo

          Part-time workers are not counted in the U-3 number but are in the U-6 number which accounts for everyone 16 and over and not in jail/mental house or armed forces.

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  2. the dude

    These are not normal times with so much sovereign debt now at negative yield. Might not the yield curve be driven down by a global thirst for “safe yield” rather than impending recession? Recession will come but not until the crazed rate raisers at the Fed get their way.

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    • frog

      Yes, the yield curve might indeed be driven down by a global thirst for “safe yield” rather than impending recession. In fact, it is.

      The perfect indicator of an upcoming recession is not perfect any more.

      That’s the trouble with perfect indicators. At some point they cease to be perfect.

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      • btn

        Try to think a bit deeper: why do investors flee for safety? When they think the economy is doing great, companies will expand earnings, and stocks will do well?

        Before dismissing the “inverted curve” recession indicator, you should at least wait for it to fully invert and then go back to normal without a recession occuring.

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    • fryguy15

      What I find particularly interesting is the short term rates are moving up… Today 1m LIBOR hit a new 7-year high of .4758%, 3m LIBOR rose to .6671%, and 6m LIBOR rose to .9374%.

      Now, 30day LIBOR at 48bps is still very low. However, it is a 7-year high. Nobody talking about this yet.

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      • frog

        Do you have a guess as to why this is? Does you think it has to do with Brexit, or Europe in general, since it measures inter-bank borrowing costs of London banks?

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  3. it is showtime
    it is showtime

    Today’s trade number of the day: 17

    Consecutive weeks of
    O u t f l o w s

    [Check your head if you
    think it’s not
    being propped]

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  4. badduck

    So if the 10 year goes to zero or perhaps even negative next week, looks like TLT would be $200 or so.

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  5. scottbot

    And yet the English did take their freedom and now in the Year of Our Lord 2016 refuse to give it back when Scotland wants to join the EU.

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    • chuck bennett

      Scotland has not had freedom since 1707. Not a good comparison.

      Scotland gets no freedom buddy. Reality is, they will be more free under the Anglish than the EU overlords.

      Regards

      Chuck Bennett

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  6. mx2101

    I say God bless the United Kingdom. The voters chose freedom. Let it be so.

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  7. UncleBuccs

    Dr. Fly – they’ve discovered your King James bible is missing about 20 books. http://www.ancient-origine.com/ethiopian-bible-oldest-complete-bible-earth/

    Maybe inverted yield curves didn’t precede a crash or two in some of the missing verses?

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  8. superpositron

    It’s a thing of beauty

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  9. ConManipulation
    ConManipulation

    I am short ES. Tired of seeing these signs over and over and not taking advantage of it. MY TIME IS NOW!

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    • bob smith

      Me too. Long SH with half of portfolio and long gold/silver minors with the other half. Killing it so far this year.

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  10. psychnerd

    Because you live in northern NJ, never leave your home and don’t know what’s going on in the world but what u see on CNBC or the rich dentist who lives next door (#me). You pick and chose what you post based on what people pay to click. It works, I admire your biz model, get some.

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  11. bizerkus

    Is the inverted yield curve narrative possibly broken because of negative rates? Everybody knows that everybody knows that an inverted yield curve has predicted a recession since the beginning of time—until it’s no longer true. We are in uncharted waters.

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