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Chinese New Home Prices Soar by 12.4% in December — Higher by 25% in Tier One Cities

What can go wrong, after all? The Chinese government has already informed us their real estate market, which is being driven by records amount of debt, is NOT in a bubble, so relax, chill and enjoy a large overflowing bowl of wanton soup.

Take Larry Hu, for example, economist from Macquarie. He posited, back in October, that the +25% year over year price jumps for Chinese property wasn’t indicative of a bubble…because MUH lack of supply. Perfectly normal stuff.

Source: BBG

Big cities like Shanghai are experiencing net immigration with only limited blocks of land coming on the market. “If Shanghai sells only one parcel of land in a year, the price of the land must be extremely high – this is not a bubble; this is a shortage of supply,” Hu said.

We can revisit a litany of smug remarks by any number of US economists before the US housing market collapsed — almost mocking those who warned against unchecked gains in property prices.

Take, for example, the missives of Jonathan McCarthy and Richard W. Peach — senior economists at the NY Fed.

“Home prices have been rising strongly since the mid-1990s, prompting concerns that a bubble exists in this asset class and that home prices are vulnerable to a collapse that could harm the U.S. economy.

“A close analysis of the U.S. housing market in recent years, however, finds little basis for such concerns. The marked upturn in home prices is largely attributable to strong market fundamentals: Home prices have essentially moved in line with increases in family income and declines in nominal mortgage interest rates.”

Or, we can look back at the advice of Chris Flanagan, head of ABS Research, JP Morgan — and laugh at how stupid he was.

“Based on what we know and see in terms of employment and interest rates, it is extremely difficult to see how five years from now we could be looking back and observing a historical 5-year growth rate of, say, less than 5%. That should be more than adequate to support the continued good credit performance of sub-prime mortgage pools.

“It is important to understand — we can contemplate home price growth rates declining, albeit modestly, but we do NOT envision home prices declining!”

This out of China tonight — record home prices.

Source: Beijing Monitoring Desk
Average new home prices in China’s 70 major cities rose 12.4 percent in December from a year earlier, slowing slightly from a 12.6 percent increase in November, an official survey showed on Wednesday.

Compared with a month earlier, home prices rose 0.3 percent nationwide, slowing from November’s 0.6 percent, according to Reuters calculations from data issued by the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS). Shenzhen, Shanghai and Beijing prices rose 23.5 percent, 26.5 percent and 25.9 percent, respectively, from a year earlier.

Monthly growth in Shanghai and Shenzhen slowed but was unchanged in Beijing as local governments’ tightening measures took effect. China relied heavily on a surging real estate market and government stimulus to help drive economic growth in 2016, but policymakers have grown concerned that the property frenzy will fuel price bubbles and risk a market crash, with serious consequences for the broader economy. Soaring home prices have prompted more than 20 Chinese cities to tighten lending requirements on house purchases, while regulators have told banks to strengthen their risk management on property loans.

Hindsight is 20/20 and it’s never easy to time tops or bottoms. But this is child’s play. None of these gains are due to some grass roots renaissance, thanks to some technological breakthrough or keystone event that caused prices to jump. The price jumps in China are due to record levels of debt, leverage, greed, avarice, and wanton chicanery.

It’s most definitely a bubble — whether it cracks this year or not is anyone’s guess.

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8 comments

  1. bennyhill

    Yet many home markets are now above that 2007 high, so how bad was the housing bubble really?

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    • Dr. Fly

      Wait a second. How old are you? Are you seriously going to suggest that housing crash and failure of the ENTIRE western banking system was ‘no biggie?’

      I can deal with your cuckery in politics. But this, I will not accept as dialogue fitting for these halls.

      You name is now up for review for permanent banning, based on ‘insufficient’ intelligence quotient.

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      • husaria

        Easy Mr. Dr. Fly. Bennyhill is (not very well) barking seal. He is wonderful entertainment, no? On other hand, he is poofer fairy and still don’t know what he does with fish. At least keep a little longer until I find new barking seal. Shouldn’t be hard, then off to Norway for seal clubbing season.

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      • sarcrilege

        It used to be a myth that once a bubble bursts, it cannot be re-inflated. And now it’s a fact. In spite of the various R/E crashes, serious or not, how many times did these bankers managed to re-inflate these housing bubbles? So it will end badly, pretty much everybody knows that, yet here it is again. A housing bubble played like casino. Just saying…

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    • it is showtime

      I don’t get where youre going hillbelly. But it sounds a little hallucinogenic.

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  2. ericbakerbruce

    Stay on the ark! I’ve thrown the frogs and camels overboard to make room for some gold and silver.

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  3. ferd

    Quite different there than US. 80% of Chicoms own house outright. And 30% down payment is required for those that borrow.

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  4. ferd

    80% of those Chinese that own homes own outright that is

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