It’s like a Nostradamus nightmare playing out here.
Apparently the soviets are on the verge of spreading into the Ukraine, like a cancer. I wonder why they would do that? It really doesn’t matter, as the markets plunged due to the specter of it all. I could throw a bunch of cornered rat analogies at you and none of them would be remembered. However, those of you who bought the dip hoping we’d recover, I am fairly certain you will remember the exact moment Russia decide to go ‘all in’ against the barbarians in the Ukraine.
Since these are simply rumors, I am not reacting and might just take the rest of the day off in protest.
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Well that explains the nice flush.
FLY you should be long WFM here to hedge against Mrs. Fly’s $36k/annum tab there…
I am long
Putin is pissed at Obama for sanctions so he’ll invade Ukraine to take the US stock market down & ultimately he wants the $USD out as world reserve currency
this is war!
Why Obama pressed sanctions against Russia is beyond my comprehension.
he’s only a sock puppet controlled by behind the scenes powers .. I am sure it wasn’t his idea
Maybe he had to try and look ‘macho’ after his appeasement (or worse) of isis, Hamas, Asaad (Syria) and Iran?
Pretty simple… for the banking complex, military, and defense industry, “war is good for business”.
Americans have largely had their fill of the islamic boogeyman BS. Time to manufacture a new conflict.
Flux,
I’m not sure I’d call isis taking over Iraq and wiping out Christianity there, Iran on the verge of a nuclear weapon, and 9/11 a ‘bogeyman’, but okay…
Ten million+ illegals have managed to sneak into this country in the past decade… yet there hasn’t been a single serious la-la-la-la-kaboom screw-head who managed to slip across the border and blow up a soft target?
Either we’ve been incredibly, improbably, unbelievably lucky, or the threat of islamic terrorism is vastly overstated.
BTW, did you know the evil Iranians have troops on the ground in Iraq fighting ISIS?
Gee my bad, I guess we should just entrust our security to the ‘peace loving Mullahs in Iran’? Let em build more centrifuges – we gotta stop those Ruskies before we get ‘Red Dawnned’ right?
I don’t think this drop is about Russia
at all. It’s a bunch of horse poop. Russia
is not anything to worry about…
IMHO, the Iranians are not bat-shit crazy, despite what the MSM says.
We think these guys are capable of building a nuclear bomb, and they’re insane religious fanatics willing to risk total destruction of their country, but they can’t teach a couple hundred kamikazes to hablo espanol, sneak in here from Mexico, and blow up a few shopping malls? Gimme a break.
On a more practical note – Tehran is 1500 miles from Moscow. If the Russians want a new nuclear-armed neighbor, let them deal with it.
I disagree. In the Iran/Iraq war in
the 1980’s, Iran sent waves of
children to run across in suicide
attacks. They were given plastic
keys and told these were the keys
to heaven. 1 million Iranian kids
were ‘martyred’ this way. THAT is
the kind of government running
Iran. They are insane and believe
in an end of the world apocalpyse
that will bring the 13th imam etc.
i/e them getting nukes IS the end
of the world. period.
Needed a win that had low potential for going kinetc – Iraq? Nope, Syria, hell nope, China? Meh – maybe later, North Korea – stupid nukes. Still may just be posturing, but WWI was nothing but massive exercises along the borders until it wasn’t
Exactly. It doesn’t “make sense” unless you consider “alternate theories”
Probably because they are providing support to the people that shot down the Malaysian airplane. Oh and because he doesn’t want him to invade the rest of the world.
Go look at a map of NATO vs Warsaw Pact members in 1992.
Compare that to NATO members today.
Then tell us who’s trying to take over the rest of the world.
I think the Russians are RATIONAL actors and have no desire for a direct war with the USA. That would be INSANE, and unlike the “Islamo-bogeymen” like Iran e/g, the Russians are NOT insane.
I missed the part where NATO invaded a neighboring country to take over their territory. Remind me, when was that?
This is a nuance of the post-cold war. There was a gentlemen’s agreement that we wouldn’t expand NATO to the Warsaw Pact countries. Those countries begged to be added and some were while Russia was weak. Ukraine was considering that action as well and Russia did something about it this time as they were able to do so.
Well, I guess they should have ‘considered’ faster 😉
Point well taken.
Not defending the evil empire.
Merely pointing out that NATO has outlived it’s mandate.
If wealthy Russian industrialists funded attempts to overthrow the Canadian government, and their government was busy signing treaties with Central American countries to establish military bases and missile defense systems, we would be understandably indignant.
100% agree flux.
Russia is very active in Central and South America, Putin signed several defense related agreements within the past few months alone. Venezuela has always been a problem but the agreement with Brazil is telling. China has been even more active. I think we tend to ignore this activity until nuclear missiles are in Cuba.
Important to note NATO is voluntary while Warsaw Pact membership was not. It’s important to note missile defense in Eastern Europe was withdrawn unilaterally and replaced with THAAD (which is benign to Russia) by the current administration years ago to reset US-Russian relations. It’s rational for vulnerable country’s to band together when they have a neighbor redrawing sovereign border’s by force (Georgia, 2008 for example, but Russia has a long history of this behavior).
Its about the BRICs bank. Obama the puppet was told to do it.
+1
Putin asked China to dump U.S. Treasuries in 2008 crisis, China declined. BRIC’s have been trying replace the USD as the world currency for a couple of decades.
Frankly the sanctions are pathetic with carve outs all over the place. NATO exercises would send a clear signal what lines cannot be crossed without a response (to avoid war).
Markets are using this as an excuse to sell-off. Cohen has been saying there will be a notable decline in US markets “toward the end of summer.”
Russians need those pipelines.They
can’t export cars or most anything else
for revenue cause their stuff is shit. The
Ukraine may be fucked.
I’m 15% cash and not buying till late fall.
.
They will do that because they are capitalists and wish to own the land under Donestk (the 3rd largest of some very big area) that will soon be fracked by Chevron of the fascist USAskis and the evil Ukrainian fascist trainees . Of course this will have an effect on corporate profits from Natgas in the US, supply in the Euro land of socialists, and Russian pipeline. blah, blah, blah, war The US never goes to war unless energy is the underlying topic. (no pun)
Tell that to Vietnam, Korea, or more recently numerous Central American countries (granted more recent activity is relatively covert).
Cant we all just get along?
Obama wants war to sell war bonds (tlt)
Hence sanctions.
If this becomes the top, I will call it the Dollar Store Top
Last week, family dollar and dollar store swallowed eachother up
Chapter 10: Making the World your bitch. Once again I’m with the hottest chick in town, buying the most expensive fashions, dining in the fanciest food places, riding around on god damn jet-skis, raining trim, blow, jet-skis again, throwing heat and getting laid. Did this tale end the way i thought it would? Probably not. But as long as I win, who gives a shit?
Long small caps via TNA here for a trade…. $66.30 basis
Listen up.
The fun begins with only 2 years left in 0’s term.
I predict China will make a move against Taiwan.
They know nothing will happen except a strongly worded certified letter.
What SHOULD happen? That international shit is none of our fuckin’ business.
Stay home and take care of things here, like corporate tax dodging.
stay home and get another 11 million illegal welfare votes. lol
Now that WOULD be a scary situation caddy. BTW, how many times has a market drop been explained by the ANALysts on biz tee vee as some completely unrelated nonsense after-the-fact?
China is watching and wants territory from Philippines, Vietnam, and Japan to name a few. Taiwan may not be first, increasingly better relations between the two may lead to a de-facto Hong Kong situation.
The comments section has turned into zerohedge
Zh comments become repetitive/monotonous/overly simplified, after awhile
Do Not discount the underneath/layered artifice that “may” exist to current events
How much does GE pay in taxes?
Buy the dip!
Pro-tip: It’s Ukraine, not THE Ukraine. Didn’t y’all go to school?
Forget Ukraine, I will roll three dice and go for Irkutsk vs Yakustk!
not according to the AM radio
If you go to Russian school, Putin calls it HIS-kraine, comrade.
The Ukraine thing is odd.
Obama wants Russia to recognize their sovereignty and leave.
Russia is just annexing back an entity that left.
Kind of like if Florida, ,Texas, or Arizona told the Federal gov to take a hike.
If states did that and declared succession and wanted to be recognized as sovereign entities. You can bet that Obama, or any presidents, tone will change to “the need for a union under a federal government.”
Their will not be a tone of “states are sovereign entities that are entitled to a form of government of their choosing.”
Gentleman, read the Federalist Papers for a classic debate on the pros cons and cons of government.
One will only really get the “Pro” side of the argument by reading the Federalist Papers. They were pamphlets in favor of establishing a strong(er) central government.
Ukraine is not a Russian territory so the state rights in issue in the US is irrelevant; the analogy would be U.S. influence over Canada.
Wrong.
It is relevant. Ukraine was once a part of the Soviet Union.
You are also missing the overall point of the assertion in my analogy.
Source:
The Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic commonly referred to as Ukraine or Soviet Ukraine, was a sovereign Soviet socialist state and one of the fifteen constituent republics of the Soviet Union from its inception in 1922 to its breakup in 1991. For most of its existence, it was economically and politically the second-most powerful republic of the Soviet Union, behind only the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.
I would agree with you if the year was 1990, but empires fall and soverign nations are born. The British, French, Spanish, and a myraid of other empires got the memo.
On a different topic Putin wants Eastern Ukraine for strategic land access to Crimea (Russia’s only warm water port and access to the Black Sea), abundent natural resources, and just under 1/2 of the former Soviet defense sector is headquartered in Eastern Ukraine. Western Ukraine would be a burden for Putin, economically and culturally so he may only take part of the country and coerce the rest.
I’m kind of surprised that the post that Cronkite dropped on the Malaysian airliner hasn’t been mentioned here. It’s VERY interesting. http://ibankcoin.com/news/2014/08/04/curiously-strange-evidence-surfaces-on-flight-mh17/
No, it really isn’t.
damn the PPT signal failed….getttin burned.
the market will make new highs b4 year end
Another buy the dip opportunity. Loving XIV and SVXY
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Thank you for SGEN. You are sharp.
Ukraine is the line in the sand for Russia. He loses that to Europe and he’s fucked with no geographic buffer to the West.
I expect him to invade or at the very least increase the instability there.
Belarus, Moldova, etc.; the notion that it’s a zero-sum game is ridiculous.
Hide yo women and yo children .. and double up on some longs
All the fucking whack jobs are out tonight. You know who you are. Bring the hate and fear. It will only fuel this bull market in the end.
If given the chance, I’d kill every single person on this thread.
Do you have acne to go with the rage?
This is what happens when you don’t BAN extremist, political, gloom and doom fuckwits. The board just degenerates into garbage.
Your a dickwad Jesse Livermore. Go take yourself out like your predecessor. And BTW….your no Jesse Livermore.
How about a game of Monopoly first
WOPR: Wouldn’t you prefer a good game of chess?
What about your boy blue?