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Your Account Will Go To Zero, Soon

Okay, I am really feeling this set up here. It reminds of the days when all of you ass-lickers went long, back in March, only to have Stuntman Mike peel off on your fucking craniums.

I’m all in, with hardly any cash. My conundrum is the hodge podge of long/short etf’s on the sheets. However, I prefer to be positioned that way, in order to time my sells. In other words, into a rally, I will let go of my upside etf’s, while holding the inverses. When I am 100% convinced of a breakdown, I will take the proceeds and average in.

This is a very delicate trade, which requires plutonium powered time machines and space alien machine swagger.

Don’t try this shit at home. You will get merc’d.

Back to the real world.

The NYC Port Authority got no bids in its $300 million bond auction today. Do not ignore this as idle hucklebuck, if there even is such a thing. If the NYC Port Authority can’t raise money, no one can. And I mean no one.

Here’s the facts:

“The Fly” was long equities, due to “The Turkey Gods,” not for some sort of bottoming out rally. Fuck that. We are going into year two of the recession and, thus far, there have been zero signs of a respite. As a matter of fact, things have gotten far worse—more than I could have ever imagined.

So, the choice is yours. You can get long, like a fucktarded homo asshat, into a gut wrenching -6% 4th qt. GDP— or fade this rally and come out the other end like a fucking victorious gladiator.

Remember, the beginning of every new year sets the tone for the calender year. If you recall, we got plastered in the first two weeks of January of 2008; and I fucking nailed it.. There is no fucking chance we rally up, into the beginning of 2009. No-fucking-chance.

Hence the phrase will reemerge: “The Fly” wins all the time, even when he appears to be losing badly.”

UPDATE: Solomon’s coin trick!

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185 comments

  1. The Zombie

    The Fly is God!

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  2. Anton Cigur

    “Idle hucklebuck” is too poetic to ignore.

    Well done, Sir.

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  3. DEVILDOG

    fly, quit copying me. The call is mine not yours.

    DEVILDOG Says:

    Gio, VIX 118 will happen on the BIG PLUNGE this month along with a 1000 point DOWN day on the DOW. Stay SHORT or be killed instantly.

    December 3rd, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    DEVILDOG Says:

    Tomorrow will be a fairly big reversal day to the downside followed by losses every day through at least the 8th – 10th. Unemployment claims will be HUGE tomorrow and payrolls on Friday will be much worse than forecast. On the 8th while the market is open or possibly after the close the vote on the little 3 will be disclosed and it will not be passed. No rally until Jan. with the new top paid off politician taking office and giving the little 3 taxpayer money along with a huge fiscal stimulus package in addition to a bailout for anyone that wants one at taxpayer expense. Just heard tonight we purchased $50B of AIG’s toxic waste to take it off their books. SWEET! Another log on the REVOLUTION fire which is smoking and getting ready for ignition. DEVILDOG like it HOT!

    December 3rd, 2008 at 6:55 pm

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  4. j

    Well yea, Fly investors are waking up to the fact that the Port Authority deserves no fucking bids and more of kick in the balls for being a vested interest operation that deserves to be crunched over and gay reamed.

    No one is going to buy their freaking bonds or have them on their books as they’re bad news since the last time they fucked the banks with their perpetual resets several months ago. This is a good thing.

    Furthermore why invest in those twerps when C is offering FDIC guarantee on their crap they nicely issued and put to rest today.

    The Port Authority needs to be sold and rationalized and all those union fucks fired en masse. That’s what the market is telling us.

    Unemployment stats will reach 700,000 in the coming months as to properly equate with previous recession stats. But we all know that.

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  5. Working Man

    I actually knew Hucklebuck.

    He was a good man. Obviously confused, but well-intentioned. Gay of course, in that sort of 21st way, which is to say, oddly non-committed. He used to wear potato sacks and dance around, gleefully, knowing his time was drawing near, as the men with knives drew near.

    And so strangely as might be the fly if he were to suddenly start wearing potato sacks, there was that always sardonic quality to our dear friend, Hucklebuck.

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  6. Jakegint

    Remember, the beginning of every new year sets the tone for the calender year. If you recall, we got plastered in the first two weeks of January of 2008; and I fucking nailed it..

    Yes…. finally.

    I think we may see a similar “come to Jesus” event this year as well.

    Don’t worry, I’ll keep a chilled bottle of Cristal in the ice bucket for you.

    ______

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  7. Tony

    Fly, Do you not think it’s possible that the whole month of December could be used to mark up stocks so money managers won’t look like worthless tool bags. They’ve marked up the end of month returns nicely. I can see the expensive glossy marketing sheet now “our fund returned -35% while the SP500 was down 54% and this is due to our exceptional risk management and experience”

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  8. Jakegint

    From “the Urban Dictionary:”

    1. huckle buck

    Its a sexual Position and a nice one at that…

    “Damn last Night he had my legs Over my head…!”

    2. huckle buck

    A hick, redneck, stumpjumper, hillbilly…you know the type, a real tobacco chewin, no-tooth, truck-drivin, overall-wearin, dirty man or woman.

    This term originated in Sharon, PA in the mid-1980’s as I was there to witness its invention.

    “I took an exit off of I-80 to grab a beer and I stumbled into a huckle buck bar.”

    3. huckle buck

    usually white,male,red neck.

    “Man, all those people at the Kentucky Headhunkers concernt are huckle bucks. ”

    (or just “huckles” for short)

    _______

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  9. j

    Here’s the counter argument to that.

    Hewlett Packard put their bonds away in the last couple of days. Meanwhile C’s infrastructure group/fund did a deal to buy an infrastructure asset somewhere in Europe for 5 billion Euros.

    In other words the union infested hellhole that is the Port Authority is politely being told to fuck off as there is no more money for pricks like them that go out and borrow money only to fund next 6 months of union wages.

    The market is politely saying sell the piece of shit so the private market can put all the pieces together again and turn a profit.

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  10. mrkcbill

    Hucklebuck = Coach Roy Williams

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  11. Donny

    Despite the fact that we’re off almost 45% from the all-time highs in the S&P 500, we still haven’t had that Armageddon event yet.

    Look at this orderly chart (there ain’t fire & brimstone chaos):

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bear-market-rallies.png

    We’ve been living in a fucking Disneyland like bubble for 20 plus years, and this sell-off still doesn’t reflect it. No Shit!

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  12. Jakegint

    Port Authority no longer provides the bus from Manhattan to Giants Stadium on game day.

    Obviously, they are not going to sell any more bonds, ever.

    ___________

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  13. Fook

    Fly, change your banner. I feel all disgusting inside thinking that you may be thinking that the market may be thinking about “ramping up”.

    Fuck that noise and fuck this rally. I called my broker up (via clicking links on a website) and became the proud owner of many short positions, all of which will eventually enrage my account for having to re-estimate my annual profits in an upward fashion.

    See you on the other side.

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  14. Questionaire

    In other words, into a rally, I will let go of my upside etf’s, while holding the inverses. When I am 100% convinced of a breakdown, I will take the proceeds and average in.

    can someone explain what fly meant by that. is he 100% breakdown of ultrashorts he will buy even more of them within proceeds from upside etfs?

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  15. Fook

    PS: Please incorporate “homo hammers” and “murder holes” into the new banner. I’m having trouble envisioning these.

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  16. mike

    mike Says:

    Detroit Bailout, Oops I mean bridge loan – a few suggestions:
    Sell yer planes
    Hitch or take the bus like really needy folk do.
    Give back 70% of yer ill gotten gains (read salary & bonus)
    Get a real job, or do something to contribute to society rather than living off it.

    Note: I have not bought an American car since having the engine on my ‘79 Cadillac diesel blew @ 28,000 Miles and then fighting for 6 weeks to have it repaired @ N/C.
    Other makers will take over the factories.

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  17. Phil_from_Brazil

    Fly puts out a post at any odd hour of the day and Zombie is always the first to respond with the classic “the Fly is God” line. Cracks me up everytime. hehehe

    -Phil

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  18. boca

    I’m Your Huckleberry — Doc Holliday in Tombstone

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx1TWk-V4P0

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  19. Anton Cigur

    “You’re a daisy if you do.”

    Doc had the best lines and part in that movie, for sure.

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  20. scum bucket

    The Port Authority screwed the pooch. They gambled, they lost. No big deal, the fed gub is bailing everyone.

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  21. Anon #2

    Quest,

    When the overall stock market goes up Fly will sell-off etf’s at the peak of the upward movement then Fly will take the cash from the sell-off and buy more inverse etfs. The purchase of the inverse etfs will be at the time when the stock market is falling. When the market falls then Fly’s profits will begin on the inverse etfs. Ideally, Fly will sell the inverse etfs when the stock market “bottoms” and profits are maxed.

    How did I do Fly?

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  22. Buckeye Bob

    Anyone think the Chicom gubment is in their equity market buying stocks???? Been up a couple of days in a row now … certainly is not because of improving fundys

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  23. BOOMER

    4) huckle buck

    a worthless American currency

    “Remember those green bills, back before our grandfathers got the Amero, that we used to burn to stay warm? Those huckle bucks sure had ugly pictures on them. Carlos Slim is much better looking than George Washington.”

    5) huckle buck

    the process of raising money by hook or crook

    “Sheeit, I need me some crank. I’m gonna stab this lady and steal her purse, huckle buck style. Ol’ skool!”

    “Yes, Senator. We consider this a bridge loan, and we fully intend to repay it.

    Whispers to gentleman sitting to his left:

    ‘Did you hear me pull that huckle buck? Let’s get this money and fly home on the fuggin Concord! W00t!’

    6) huckle buck

    a homosexual deer

    “Shhh, I have one in my sights. Oh damn, its one of those huckle bucks. Hold your fire. I don’t want a hate crime on my record.”

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  24. arch

    the inverse etfs drop alot faster than the longs ..is there a ratio of longs to shorts that should be used when trading like that?

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  25. Generational Oil Top Picker
    Generational Oil Top Picker

    I called the Generational Top in oil above $130, and I called the Generational Bottom in the stock market a couple of weeks ago.

    Invest against me at your own peril.

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  26. crude_oil

    Jack,I guess you were pulling my leg on this GLORC.What the fuck is a GLORC?I google this and came up with Gorgeous Ladies of Rock Climbing.Cute.

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  27. hmmmmmm

    Bloomberg said the bonds had highest credit rating. The port authority says otherwise:

    “The Port Authority today tested the financial markets by offering a competitive sale of $300 million in short-term notes, and received no bids. The transaction was held well in advance of the need for capital funds, as is the Port Authority’s standard practice, and the lack of bids will have no impact on any current Port Authority capital projects. Our credit ratings and our financial health remain strong, with Standard and Poor’s and Fitch Ratings Inc. just in the last week reaffirming AA- ratings, and Moody’s just reaffirming Aa3 ratings, and we are confident that the markets will recover in the upcoming year when we plan to return with another sale.”

    http://www.panynj.gov/AboutthePortAuthority/PressCenter/PressReleases/PressRelease/index.php?id=1161

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  28. Juice

    DevilDog – everyone & their dead great great great grandma knows the coming econ numbers will suck the great depression … frankly, I don’t know which way we go off that number but I wouldn’t be surprised if we rocket north or south. The dollar is the Key here. If the dollar cracks, we go north.

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  29. arch

    or should one use the $amount of the s&p– dow–nas–ect

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  30. GA

    I don’t know why everyone thinks we’re entitled to a rally.

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  31. Small Fry

    Was there a brand new president that had everyone drooling and fawning on every channel in January 2008? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying you can delay the wake-up until February. Do not underestimate the all-consuming media frenzy that will be Obamamania for the first 2.5 weeks of January. There will be a feel-good vibe that trumps any turkey rally — you want to see misplaced confidence, wait until January.

    Usually we sober up from the holidays in January and melt. We won’t sober up until February, when President Obama has to deal with some shit he doesn’t know how to handle.

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  32. BOOMER

    dont get jake started on the GLORC

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  33. The Zombie

    Thanks, Phil. I live for this blog.

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  34. GA

    fuk

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  35. arch

    i think im entitled to a rally up and a rally down ..i throw my money in there ..so i dont care which way it goes as long as it goes…rally on comrades

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  36. Juice

    I’m gonna buy me some coal tomorrow. Maybe load up on WLT & BTU.

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  37. Cardiff_Giant

    The fact is our government is bailing everyone out with newly printed money!! It comes from thin air and is effectively a stealthy but highly detrimental tax!!

    D-Dog is right the revolutionary log is smoking!

    Back to HARD MONEY!!

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  38. DEVILDOG

    juice, focusing on one indicator like the dollar is not wise. Besides, the dollar is not going to crack until after the next leg down to new lows. What everybody knows is that the market has been ignoring the bad data of the last 2 weeks. Tomorrow and Friday it won’t.

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  39. Danny

    on any news day, there is only a much smaller chance of being “right” than 50:50

    you bet higher, it is lower
    you bet lower, it is higher.

    you bet higher, it is higher, but not enough to meet expectations, it goes lower

    you bet lower, it is lower, but people cover the news, it goes higher.

    You bet higher it goes higher
    You bet lower, it goes lower.

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  40. bluepickle

    go long and not short or you’ll be spattered like poop

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  41. bluepickle

    fly,

    don’t be stupid. Buy the gap down tomorrow.

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  42. Jimmy Chin

    DEVILDOG…you are nothing but a fly-wannabe. You have the audacity to think the fly copied your market call. Are you serious? Markets go up, markets go down…the Fly (and others) tries to make money in any market environment, up or down. You on the other hand, are a perma bear (a very gay one at that)…you get clown raped on up days and then you get all giddy on the down days. Seriously…even when you are right…you sound like a fucking moron.

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  43. arch

    will the chosen one or paulson speak tommorrow

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  44. jig

    cardiff_giant is that cardiff by the sea in San Diego?? i live there as well..

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  45. Dogwood

    I’m getting an “Authentication Required” pop up window when I load the page. Just FYI.

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  46. M.L.

    Yo Fly,

    Speaking of asslickers, you ever had your ass licked by a girl? It’s the greatest shit ever…

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  47. H Paulson

    You silly clowns,with my brilliant TARP plan, I now have 15% equity warrants on a vast number of banks that allow me to exercise immediately on any gains all the way out to 10 years.So why don’t you all sit back and ponder having your chips all pushed in on red AND black while I go drive down treasury yields some more.

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  48. arch

    I’m getting an “Authentication Required” pop up window when I load the page. Just FYI.
    December 3rd, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    so am i

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  49. The Fly

    Dog:

    It was some thing from PPT in the post. i took it out.

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  50. The Fly

    Try again.

    Here is what I had in post.

    Possible breakouts, custom screen, via PPT:

    No. Ticker Hybrid Change Intraday Hybrid Score
    1 ETP 38.73 2.83
    2 PHM 37.82 2.66
    3 DLM 37.63 2.67
    4 PODD 32.95 2.34
    5 BBBY 31.6 3.04
    6 SPF 31.35 2.43
    7 OFIX 31.35 2.43
    8 PANL 31.02 2.45
    9 PHHM 30.69 2.47
    10 OWW 30.69 2.47
    11 LGF 30.69 2.47
    12 WERN 30.67 3.11
    13 AU 30.48 2.44
    14 MBHI 30.37 2.49
    15 MHK 30.05 2.51

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  51. Thunderpup

    Chloe Cho is actually kinda hot. I’d hucklebuck the Tso/Cho duo on a deserted Fiji beach right now, but Karen, you’re always No. 1.

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  52. Moe

    lets all hoes stand in line …

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  53. arch

    the paulson hedge fund…wonder when that goes under

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  54. El Scorcho

    Unreal action in the Flyngo markets today folks.

    Dec calls on “SHAM-WOW” have lost 95% in one trading day.

    Whereas, “Hucklebuck” has gained an astonishing 15000% during the same period.

    There are your Flyngo pops-n-drops for December 3, 2008.

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  55. alf44

    firstly…The Fly is NOT God !!!

    ——————-

    And those that continue to regurgitate that tired refrain need to take a trip to “Shuttie-ville” !

    With all due respect, of course !!!

    ——————–

    If you will excuse the Poker references…

    …I am INSTEAD reminded of…Gus(“The Great Dane”) Hansen

    …with (at times) some Mike (“The Mouth”)Matusow

    …and some Phil (“Poker Brat”) Hellmuth sprinkled liberally on top !

    ———————

    All in all, “The Fly” plays some great hands…and…takes some bad beats !

    When you constantly have “skin” in the game…this is inevitable !

    But…come winning hand or, losing hand…practicing pretty good “money management”…he seems to always live to play ANOTHER hand !

    What I like most…he isn”t afraid to change styles “on the fly” (pun intended)…from “tight” to “loose” !

    It’s a HIGH RISK…HIGH REWARD playing style…but, it’s sure is a hoot to watch him scramble !

    And as long as I have a “chip and a chair”…I’ll be here “on the rail” watching !

    PS.

    Did I miss any poker cliches in that post ? I tried to hit’em all !

    .

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  56. alf44

    where’d the damn edit funtion go ?

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  57. chivasontherocks

    more like a combo of;

    chip reese

    jamie gold

    grinder

    ” thats poker “

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  58. GA

    “China Internet cafes switching to Chinese OS”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gtXzh8sBnuMEvyTIKlOP4-ZIc5twD94R48AO0

    That deserves an FXPing.

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  59. arch

    the fly is not a fish or a donk ..you missed those poker terms alf44

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  60. alf44

    duly noted, arch ! 🙂

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  61. alf44

    chivas…I’m a Ted Forrest…Barry Greenstein guy myself !

    But…

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  62. arch

    you have to be when splashing around in this market..shoving your stack could cost you the tourn

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  63. Poo

    Fly:

    what does PPT say about FXP … that piece of shit is giving me ulcers…

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  64. chivasontherocks

    i like ted forrest but play more like barry. if you have watch him in cash games, he is really a conservative player, for the most part.

    one day i would love to sit with these guys in a cash game.

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  65. arch

    you can play with barry at FTP hes there sometimes and plays low limits ..i played 1or 2 times with him a year or 2 ago..

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  66. The Fly

    This is all I have to say:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A9fmnAsgdg

    All other comments are pointless.

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  67. scum bucket

    Check out #15 MHK. Some insider bought 100k shares @ 60 recently. Heh.

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  68. The Fly

    POO:

    FXP has been strong sell forever. However, 200% etf’s are insane and should not be bought/sold on technicals.

    My opinion.

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  69. too much time on this site
    too much time on this site

    Japanese market taking a dip currently.. so much for follow through..

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  70. arch

    fly ..when playing both sides of etfs do you use a ratio for the size of your posistions of each ..or something else

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  71. The Fly

    Arch:

    Yes, depending on my bias. However today’s buys were simply done to stop the bleeding out I endured in FAZ/FXP.

    When a direction is clear, I will release the upside etf’s of their duty.

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  72. arch

    thanks fly

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  73. scum bucket

    Bad sushi.

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  74. BuyOnTheDip.com

    “Remember when I said this car is death proof? Well that wasn’t a lie. This car is a hundred percent death proof. Only to get the benefit of it honey… you really need to be sittin’ in my seat!”

    FAZ-wow!

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  75. Dr. Incognito

    Shits bad

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aMTynXWxak9I&refer=home

    Brought to you by Magic Jack.

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  76. The Zombie

    ALF: The Fly is God!

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  77. alf44

    …could I interest you in a trip to…

    Shuttie-ville ??? lol

    .

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  78. Employee8

    Crude, GLORC is a GLobally Organized Rate Cut ….

    Hence, if all nations cut rates at the same time all currencies remain on par and no effect on commodities.
    If CBE cuts independent of the G? then the euro will fall relative to all other currencies and a strengthening dollar could weaken oil, metals some more.

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  79. Karl Marx

    DD’s reference to a “revolutionary log” reminds me of the night I lost a tense debate to Charles Fourier.

    Afterwards, while wallowing in my Jagermeister, I saw one of my younger followers approach. I assumed he was about to offer his condolences, but before I could speak he showed me the key he had just stolen – the key to Fourier’s apartment!

    Fomenting mischief, we quickly made way for the Mexican delegation, where we gorged on enormous bean burritos, followed by crabcakes and broccoli.

    Full to bursting as we waddled chez Fourier, we quickly stole inside and entered his bedroom.

    As Fourier had not yet returned home, we dropped our communist drawers and savagely emptied our bowels onto his prstine white sheets.

    Revolutionary logs, indeed.

    It was more like a couple of steaming three coilers.

    Old Beardy out.

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  80. Employee8

    Hucklebuck …. isn’t that a combination of an Uncle Buck and this guy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6R0YzLCqag&feature=related

    Props include:

    King of the castle
    A monster in a cave
    A hero brandishing a multitude of weapons
    Eating a samwich
    Winning even when it appears our hero is losing badly
    Victory with 2 1/2 inch ribeyes on the grill

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  81. Woodshedder

    lol

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  82. Danny

    holy shit, that is the funniest shit ever E8

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  83. c.w.

    Fly, stop buying FXP. The China govt has the money to take the market up when it decides to do so, and it is decided.

    what is your PPT ranking on VMC? This sucker refuses to do down. It issued a lot of debt to over paid Florida Rock earlier. What is holding it up!!??

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  84. The Fly

    CW:

    I will not.

    VMC and GVA are going up on hope of big infrastructure bill.

    Debt/Equity 4
    PEG Ratio 1
    Price/Book 5
    Price/Sales 4
    Profit Margin 3
    Sub Rosa 0
    Final Score 3.05
    PPT Recommendation: Buy
    Accumulation Distribution 5
    Price Performance 1
    Relative Strength 2
    Volatility 3
    Volume 1
    Sub Rosa 0
    Final Score 2.70
    PPT Recommendation: Sell

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  85. c.w.

    Fly, Where are they going to get the money to build infrastructure after bailout everyone? Many states are lining up to file charter 11.

    China is different story. It has the reserve to build infrastructure, and it actually desperately needs new highways and bridges to connect suburbs to the cities. However, don’t think it is going to order materials from VMC or GVA. China has too many factories to make those stuff..

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  86. The Fly

    CW:

    Count on the gov’t to print more $$ and put 300 bill into infrastructure. Bank on it.

    Nonetheless, the PE’s of VMC and GVA are absurd.

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  87. c.w.

    Fly,

    VMC blamed on increases in energy related cost for its huge miss in last Q. Scary part is VMC has a lot of debt, and its rating was recently downgraded by Moody’s. GVA at least has cash to pay off short term debt. These names should have been murdered in this credit crunching market.

    If only base on the hope of infrastructure build out, the volumes shouldn’t have been so strong.

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  88. crude_oil

    Employee 8,Thanks You.

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  89. Employee8

    Crude … no problem

    Fly … can the PPT provide a listing of large cap stocks selling at discount to the BV (greatest discount to smallest) for top 15 say?

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  90. Karl Marx

    Panda PPT on Hang Seng is failing at last, though so far only marginally.

    FXP and EEV up tomorrow. Marginally.

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  91. Joe Trader

    This is one of the best pre-market blogs ever! Shamwow, Hunkleberry Hound. Great work Market Mavens!

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  92. Employee8

    For BOCA when she gets a chance … what’s going on over at Ebay?

    http://redtape.msnbc.com/2008/12/ebay-users-say.html

    They don’t seem to be very “user” friendly or are they thinking about declaring fowls [sic] on the techno-geeks and keeping the prizes to be auctioned off later in an attempt to boost their Q4 bottom line … readers of this blog (like j) would like to know.

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  93. 8ballfromsun

    im only here on planet earth through the end of this week. When SRS breaks under 100 run and take cover. the bear market rally will take us down with a vicious dive to a six handle on the dow by year end. you heard it hear first the dow will print a 5 handle on the super bowl 09. sorry to ruin you earth traders fun. will be back in 6 months to collect your margin calls

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  94. The Fly

    8

    2 KEP 11933159443 0.24
    3 N 16512478909 0.26
    4 DB 17312930000 0.33
    5 BCS 17912812500 0.34
    6 C 45176685804 0.34
    7 LINTA 23388671683 0.35
    8 ING 17248554000 0.36
    9 MS 15664250887 0.4
    10 NSANY 13732136120 0.4
    11 BAC 81535663966 0.47
    12 MT 32465280000 0.47
    13 COF 13476957767 0.48
    14 BR 34546790733 0.48
    15 CHK 10324340688 0.52
    16 RTP 24952500000 0.53
    17 TWX 32466298090 0.55
    18 DAI 31754364427 0.57
    19 STI 11235887423 0.57
    20 SNE 19447171080 0.58
    21 AXA 38968848534 0.6
    22 STD 52348462366 0.6
    23 GS 31235948967 0.6
    24 FUJI 12176077774 0.61
    25 TI 17960495312 0.63
    26 PHG 15492011420 0.63
    27 CME 14197233578 0.64
    28 LYG 14503807500 0.64
    29 SLF 11298546090 0.64
    30 PKX 17449786431 0.65
    31 VOD 104013971286 0.65
    32 CS 30311757000 0.66
    33 HOT 14694073419 0.67
    34 AZ 37083793861 0.69
    35 PCZ 12133820227 0.69
    36 PC 24885032020 0.7
    37 NMR 13894579462 0.71
    38 L 11944539803 0.73
    39 MET 22823686680 0.74
    40 ALL 13634873000 0.74
    41 NOC 13388285097 0.75
    42 MRO 18471986434 0.75
    43 NOV 11806084418 0.76
    44 HIT 15624736792 0.76
    45 REP 23611499374 0.77
    46 JPM 118166439526 0.77
    47 MTU 56764524953 0.77
    48 TWC 18310170351 0.79
    49 UBS 36076125527 0.79
    50 WLP 18121835606 0.79

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  95. LondonCalling

    The dax has switched from red to + 2% this am. The US will prolly do the same today. It feels squeezy. Alot of shorts at Q $27 are trapped. Thats why we held there (5 times now). Mondays horror near negated on higher volume. Unless we get Qs under that level, squeezola. +20% ~

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  96. Gio

    Aw g, 9 minutes of Greg Solomon’s hand. Where the heck can i find those coins anyway?

    DevilDog… we won’t get Vix above 100 unless its a major spike there. Like I said, only 3 scenarios, and unemployment #s ain’t one of them:

    1) MSFT files bankruptcy
    2) Major attack on U.S. soil.
    3) Cramer is chairman of SEC

    You realize that is a 61% move up from 61. Tomorrow is Thunder Thursday! Short at close.

    jus sayin’
    Gio

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  97. StarscreamPowerPlay
    StarscreamPowerPlay

    M.I.C down

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  98. j

    LondonC

    Were/are you a stock trader?… I noticed you said you don’t do this anymore, is that right. You make some good calls for a limey 🙂

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  99. Juice

    For the DevilsDog: (stolen from an unmentionable sites comments section)

    Top 10 Worst Declines and
    Rebounds Within One Year*
    Decline Rebound
    Sep. 1929-Jul. 1932 -89.5% +172.2%

    Mar. 1937-Mar. 1938 -50.2% +63.0%

    Jan. 1973-Dec. 1974 -46.6% +56.0%

    Sep. 1939-Apr. 1942 -41.3% +48.3%

    Aug. 1987-Oct. 1987 -41.2% +35.8%

    Jan. 2000-Oct. 2002 -38.8% +36.9%

    Dec. 1968-Jul. 1970 -36.9% +52.7%

    Nov. 1961-Jun 1962 -29.2% +39.7%

    Sep. 1976-Feb. 1978 -27.7% +22.3%

    Feb. 1966-Oct. 1966 -26.5% +29.4%

    Current bear market
    Oct. 2007-Oct. 2008 -44.5%**
    AVERAGE REBOUND +55.6%
    *Based on Dow Jones Industrial Average. Index is property of Dow Jones & Company.
    **Date of the study is 10/26/08

    This would suggest a roughly 50% rebound within the year.

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  100. anonperson

    Not sure what is going on … tried to respond twice to Employee8 and the post does not go through. Can’t take the time to mess with it further.

    sorry,
    boca

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  101. Ol' Jack Burton

    Crude taking a dive so looks like another up day for XOM.

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  102. Chuan

    Juice

    nice stuff. But the question is, are we bottomed or not ?

    Given the fact, this financial crisis will be the second disaster next to the great depression. I think we might further plunge 20%, then rebound

    the two days rally is not healthy. If it keeps going like that, the market will be punished more severely later on.

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  103. Dinosaur Trader

    The difference between now and March is volume. This rally has had volume behind it, something we didn’t see in March, or for that matter, the autumn of 2007.

    -DT

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  104. Ass Napkin Mike

    Buying FAS at the open today. Id prefer to open down today and have the dip buyers move in. Rather than opening up and having everyone sell it off.

    We rally today.

    FAS-tastic

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  105. mdawsz

    Thanks for sharing, Mr. Ass Napkin.

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  106. LondonCalling

    Dax -0.6%

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  107. sniper6

    Yesterday’s green finish was forseeable. When futures are down that much premarket, it was bound to happen. Cowards got scared out early. Ballsy, hard driving studs gained. Period.

    That doesn’t mean that we will finish red today based on the positive futures pre-market. Quite the contrary.

    IMO, today will also be a positive finish, based on bullshit “news” from US automakers about their intentions to straighten out their fucked-up companies (who would like to give up millions in concessions in order to receive billions, via government handout? Anyone? Anyone?) and the of the UAW’s willingness to trim a bit of bacon in order to keep the hog alive.

    The deconstruction of the US economy will resume its normal schedule on Friday.

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  108. Fly Jr

    I predict tomorrow’s employment numbers are awful.

    Wow – I’m sure the market will be shocked by that

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  109. malaka

    the government is a bitch with aids. Obama has no clue what’s about to happen to this country. I am certified loon bin and will use my grandmaothers ss check this month to buy more inverse etfs. She can eat oatmeal

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  110. Eye No Stuff

    This website is blocked when parental control is enabled in Kaspersky’s Protection Control Center (use of which is all the rage these days). Strange though, if that’s the case, why are so many children posting to this board?

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  111. malaka

    the government is a hot chic with aids.

    On that note Obama has no clue what’s about to happen to this country. I am certified loon bin and will use my grandmaothers ss check this month to buy more inverse etfs. She can eat oatmeal. Fly junior is einstein please be advised

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  112. malaka

    the government is a hot chic with aids.

    On that note Obama has no clue what’s about to happen to this country. I am certified loon bin and will use my grandmaothers ss check this month to buy more inverse etfs. She can eat oatmeal.

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  113. Donny

    Our Gov’t is incompetent!

    Example:

    They’re gonna intervene by artificially making mortgage rates decline to 4.5%, BUT they’re gonna exclude all the FuckFaces that need to refinance. The 4.5% will only be for new purchases.

    Do they not understand that half of Orange County – CA, is loaded up to their fucking eyebrows on teaser rate, Super Jumbo, Alt-A mortgage’s, that are gonna start resetting in 2009-2010.

    BTW, Crude Down Again. The Fucking Big Energy Co’s are gonna be the catalyst that leads us to new lows.

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  114. Trader X

    The market is a forward looking device – it sees the wonderful world of Oblama.

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  115. Jakegint

    The GLORC has been triggered.

    All eyes on UUP for guidance here.

    ______

    Personal meloncholy update– the firm that spawned me is very close to “all but gone.” (The name is already dustbinned)

    Fare thee well, First Boston.

    ________

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  116. Eye No Stuff

    Given all the horrible news out this morning, it’s pretty shocking that we’re not down significantly more at the open. Telling, no?

    This mkt wants to go higher.

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  117. Gov. Arnold S.

    Fuck Orange County

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  118. Ass Napkin Mike

    Giddy the fuck up!!!!!

    FAS-baby!!!

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  119. alf44

    Eye No Stuff…I tend to agree !

    .

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  120. charlie

    See, now this is why I don’t blow out of longs at market open if things look grim. TNA has already recovered, and will now spew wads of cash in my face.

    So sorry Dog. Maybe I’ll get short towards the close.

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  121. gappingandyapping
    gappingandyapping

    SHORTS Listen up! You are about to have your fucking tonsils ripped out and used to tickle my balls. FIG is done liquidating, prepare accordingly. The push higher is too strong for the year, next year yeah but now I don’t think so. I am net short and am prepared to reverse.

    Top Pick: Long DXO for 6 months under $3.

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  122. charlie

    Bout to go green

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  123. GA

    Good thing I sold SRS on the open, I’ve learned my lesson.

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  124. kidstock

    Long Blockbuster (BBI) @ 1.2. TIVO another play in the VOD space.

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  125. Eye No Stuff

    If you’re not gobbling large quantities of extend-eze and getting long, you’re on the wrong side of this market.

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  126. j

    My sentiments too, Yapping. I hope these kids listen to you as they’re innocents and without sin.

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  127. j

    The ECB has learned its lesson. What we need is for those troglodytes at the bank of japan to get back to ZIRP and we’re on our way.

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  128. Fly Jr

    This forthcoming rally is so transparent.

    anyone short has no progressive thinking.

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  129. Dr. Incognito

    I have a hard time believing we break this longterm trend of lower highs today. Above 875, I might be a buyer. For now, its sandwiches and flinging rubberbands at passerbys.

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  130. Jakegint

    Finally watched the coin trick vid. One comment — if those really were Solomon’s hands that’s quite remarkable.

    99% of people (okay I’m making this stat up) have hands that look older than their faces. In this case, Ole Greg looks like a freaking hand model (manicured, as well!).

    Is he a magician by trade, or just a professional curmudgeon?

    _______

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  131. Jakegint

    j- Wouldn’t all that (yen to Zirp) help to prop the dollar, which is the market’s primary nemesis at this late date?

    ________

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  132. DMG

    Donny – where did you ear that the 4.5% rates for mortgages would only be for purchases?

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/28037936

    “They need a 4 1/2 percent to 5 percent 30-year rate in order to support home prices and, yes, to encourage refinancing and the process of reliquification within the economy.”

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  133. scum bucket

    This rally is a pathetic gnat penile.

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  134. scum bucket

    “They need a 4 1/2 percent to 5 percent 30-year rate in order to support home prices and, yes, to encourage refinancing and the process of reliquification within the economy.”

    Or, they need them to generate origination fees for the ailing mortgage f@ckwits.

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  135. Malaka

    I heard the government has aids ?

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  136. j

    Hi Jake:

    I should have clarified ” Zirp” and what I meant because I just don’t mean Zero interest rates and their done. They need to go to quantitative easing like they were doing in the late 90’s and yes I think it would stop the yen from appreciating.

    The Central bank is freaking crazy as I really don’t know how they think. They realize or should realize at the back of their minds that they will need to ease quantitatively yet the allow their own people to take seriously big hits on their FX losses with overseas investment.

    it’s like you need to shake the shit out of them. Last time you needed all these US economists to tell them what to do. Even the idiot Krugman was telling them to Quant. ease. They finally got it at the end.

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  137. I am 50% short and 50% long – a very very delicate and precise balance that nets me ZERO.

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  138. Donny

    DMG

    They were talking about it this morning on CNBC. The Treasury wants the special rate to apply to new home purchases and construction loans to private individuals.

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  139. Buckeye Bob

    Looks like greed has replaced fear. HD up on some nebulous plan for new home rates … get a grip

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  140. Blow Up

    If we go up today and tomorrow this would signal a true bottom. Fucked up isn’t it. Not impossible in a Socialist Market.

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  141. chivasontherocks

    i think i was one of the few or only one in this site calling for a dollar rally when it was at 71. i said it would go to at least 80, well it went to around 90. i think the dollar has made a very important top, but i think the decline will be very slow and orderly. this would be the world’s largest market way of saying, that financial armageddon has been postpone for a period of time.

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  142. chivasontherocks

    Donny is right. that was what they were saying. it will end up being for everyone.

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  143. Rodney Dangerfield
    Rodney Dangerfield

    This just in:

    Bill Miller changed his mind already.

    That is not the most telling thing though.

    He said sell all your stocks and buy hot dogs.

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  144. GA

    Today = Bull Trap

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  145. Jakegint

    im only here on planet earth through the end of this week. When SRS breaks under 100 run and take cover. the bear market rally will take us down with a vicious dive to a six handle on the dow by year end. you heard it hear first the dow will print a 5 handle on the super bowl 09. sorry to ruin you earth traders fun. will be back in 6 months to collect your margin calls.

    Let me guess, “the Raptor’s” brother?

    __________

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  146. Jakegint

    Oh, and Third Rock from the Sun?

    SRS is going to 80.

    _____

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  147. Jakegint

    i think i was one of the few or only one in this site calling for a dollar rally when it was at 71. i said it would go to at least 80, well it went to around 90. i think the dollar has made a very important top, but i think the decline will be very slow and orderly. this would be the world’s largest market way of saying, that financial armageddon has been postpone for a period of time.

    100% in agreement with all save the capitalization.

    BTW — UUP (-0.01)

    ________

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  148. Scully

    Sold 2.5K JWN from 10.63 @ 12.63. Shorts getting scalded.

    Proceeds to Ms. Scully…

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  149. Eye No Stuff

    The beard talks at 12:15. Down we go.

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  150. chivasontherocks

    LOL. thanks.

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  151. punyandy

    I’m picked up some more AAPL Dec $100 calls. Hope for a break above $95, then a bit of a run. All stocks that go to $100 go to $120, right? A wise bald asshole once told me that.

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  152. charlie

    Did I see that right? A guy named Mr Crapo just asked a question?

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  153. Sir Douchebag

    bald, yes

    wise, no.

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  154. Malaka

    FLY IS VERY QUITE THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS… JAKE WHATS THE DEAL…Charlie is FLY breathing ?

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  155. New Thread?

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  156. mst333

    HK anyone watching this one?

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  157. Eye No Stuff

    The beard is talking now and the mkt is not getting hammered. Telling, no?

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  158. Dr. Incognito

    From selling my FAZ from 54.30 @ 56.50 I am still in cash and running out of rubberbands to fling and sandwiches to defoliate. New post needed.

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  159. Gamma

    Covered my HK short. And then shorted FSLR.

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  160. El Scorcho

    Jake,

    I’m interested in why you think SRS will go to $80.

    The CRE bust hasn’t reached the first inning. In fact, they haven’t started singing the National Anthem yet.

    Further, the grounds crew is still prepping the field.

    /baseball analogies

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  161. Scully

    Short 1K RJF 18.5…WhereTF do these hayseeds think they are going? Barrons shorts covering for a bit.

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  162. Yogi & Boo Boo

    Bearded one speaks and market rallies. odd no?

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  163. Jakegint

    UUP (-0.15)

    Watch it, fellahs!

    ________

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  164. Thunderpup

    Asia and Europe wussed out on setting any direction, I guess it’s up to us. Place your bets, it’s about to resolve.

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  165. charlie

    Who knows, maybe Fly has a meeting. I’m staying long till the big 3 finish testifying, then blowing out of them.

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  166. GA

    I’ll be back at 1:45 p.m. to buy some 3x bulls for the afternoon rally, then back again at 3:50 p.m. to sell longs and go short.

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  167. DEVILDOG

    Oh boy, benny wants you to pay the mortgage of those that can’t in addition to your own. Another log on the REVOLUTIONARY FIRE! Tax revolt will be the first development. The middle class will soon refuse to pay taxes. Prepare for Boston Tea Party 2.

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  168. charlie

    Ron Paul heralded the revolution. It will come.

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  169. Dr. Incognito

    Would anyone like to buy some trading sardines? I am running a special, two cans for the price of one.

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  170. Generational Bottom
    Generational Bottom

    You asshats don’t have Clue One about stock trading. I told you we had a GENERATIONAL BOTTOM the week ending Nov 20. How did I know this?

    1. In the week ending Oct 10 there were 2900 NYSE new LOWS. When the S&P made a new low Nov 20, there were only 1500 new NYSE lows. And Monday there were under a hundred. NYSE new lows (or new highs are a primary market signal. When on a subsequent retest the number drops, WE ARE AT A MAJOR TURNING POINT.

    2. On the Nov 20 low, many stocks like XON and CELG were considerably higher than they were on Oct. 10. Signaling they had already BOTTOMED. On the other hand, resource stocks were asymptotically DOWN on Nov 20, stocks like AA, X TSO being 80-90% off their highs. These stocks offered a wonderful buying opportunity.

    3. On Nov 20 the pundits and the asshats here were saying “this is a trading market- don’t buy and hold! A dead giveaway they didn’t want you in for the long pull at the GENERATIONAL LOW.

    4. All the bad news is IN. We KNOW that unemployment will get worse, earnings will be lousy, and the global economy SUCKS. Governments around the world are pumping money into the system, and interest rates short, intermediate and long here are at RECORD LOWS.
    And now you asshats are STILL switching from long to short and back on a daily if not hourly basis when you should be building longer term HOLD positions at the Generational Low.

    PRINT THIS OUT and listen to ME next time! I called the oil top above $130 this spring, and I gave you the GIFT of calling the Generational Bottom in stocks in November. And stop your goddam shorting, Asshat CLOWNS!

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  171. Jakegint

    I’m interested in why you think SRS will go to $80.

    I’m looking at it’s chart, ovah heah. $120, was pretty significant. $80 next strong support.

    Signore Fibonacci is also not pleased, and has instructed me “Iffa itta getsa backa to tha’ $113, shorta ita to a hell, grazie.”

    /goofy Italian accent.

    ____________

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  172. Thunderpup

    Generational bottom and DevilDog here at the same time – good times.

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  173. Thunderpup

    Fibonacci’s a pimp, it was Elliot all along.

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  174. Contrary Indicator
    Contrary Indicator

    ouch… we bounced off that downtrend line like a motherfucker.

    I’m not going long until we break through it with authoritay.

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  175. charlie

    The market continues to ignore its wounds. I may have to bust out the ole Ventura clip soon.

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  176. chivasontherocks

    Generational Bottom;

    i humbly agree 100%. are you over 47.5 yrs old? lol.

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  177. C slightly up while the market is down… I’m still holding and looking for $10

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  178. DMG

    @ Thunder – lol, nice Godfather reference +1

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  179. Jakegint

    I’m not going long until we break through it with authoritay

    Respect mah authoritah!

    _______

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  180. T MOE

    DevilDog-
    What is your call for the next big down day. The news is terrible, yet the market continues to shrug most of it off. I’ve been adding to my shorts during the last couple of days. I think we test the lows before the 18th. W

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  181. Eye No Stuff

    Generational Bottom – Yes, Treasury rates are at historical lows. But relative to Treasuries – Consumer loan rates, Corporate loan rates, Municipal loan rates are at historical highs – IF they can even borrow. So, the FED has lowered appreciably, yet every single borrower, with the exception of our broken banks, are facing higher loan costs, and an across-the-board unavailability of credit.

    The banks are the ONLY beneficiary of lower rates. And they are so fucking swamped in losses that they won’t take advantage of the situation.

    Until the FED and TREASURY wake the fuck up, realize this, and put plans in place to resolve these issues – we go nowhere. And don’t count on the TREASURY to understand squat. Paulson is a fucking bald headed, stuttering moron only interested in helping his wall street buddies survive. Fuck the consumer. Fuck corporate America. Fuck the states, cities and other government entities says Paulson. That man is a one person wrecking ball for the US economy.

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  182. Jakegint

    TMoe —

    You seem like a nice guy, and I’m as bearish as you, long term, but…

    If UUP breaks $25.90, will you promise me you’ll get off the Devil Dog’s VW Microbus to Hell?

    _________

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  183. T MOE

    Jake-

    Its hard for me to get bullish on the dollar with all of the money being injected into the system. I realize the argument that the dollar is stronger in relation to other currencies. But I feel that with these low interst rates and with all of the money being pumped into the system inflation will eventually shoes its ugly head.
    In regards to being bearish. I will continue to be bearish until the job picture improves and the VIX decreases. These rallies don’t seem to have a lot of volume behind them, thus I am skeptical.

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