iBankCoin
18 years in Wall Street, left after finding out it was all horseshit. Founder/ Master and Commander: iBankCoin, finance news and commentary from the future.
Joined Nov 10, 2007
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Casino Time

Going into the closing hour, expect the market to whipsaw about, in an effort to fuck as many people as humanly possible.

Just when it looked like we were rolling over, BAM, we melted up. The quick knee jerk reaction is to buy now, in anticipation of a late day rally. However, the market does not follow predictable patterns any longer. So, my adivce, as always, is to stick to a thesis, hedge up if you can, and deal with it.

If you are net short, prepare to average up. If you are net long, prepare to average down.

Basically, the volatility is so extreme, one could make money, with timely buys/sell, playing both sides of the market.

At the moment, I am net short. However, it’s worth noting, I am a little nervous about that, due to seasonality.

Until the Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. [[GS]] and General Motors Corporation [[GM]] situation is resolved, expect a black cloud to loom over the markets head. With that in mind, I am comfortable loading up on shorts here. Of course, my position is different than yours, sitting on big year to date gains.

Whatever you decide to do, be sure to think “worst case scenario;” because this market is all about making peoples worst nightmares come true.

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94 comments

  1. BOOMER

    I hate stocks again.

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  2. Donny

    Where did all that bullish weekend talk go?

    The Chi-Com’s are fucking dead!

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  3. The Fly

    Donny:

    Good point. But FXP is still down. Hold the champagne corks Willie.

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  4. DEVILDOG

    CAP & ALLPROz,
    BTW, I love that standard bulltard shit about “all that cash sitting on the sidelines” instead of paying off all time historic national and personal debt. Can’t you come up with another bulltard bedtime fairytale? Hey what happened to krudlow’s goldilocks and the 3 BEARS? I know “mustard seeds” will fix everything. BAHHHHHHHHH!!!

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  5. The Fly

    DEVILDOG:

    STFU.

    You are a jinx to me. Quit talking shit until the market is closed.

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  6. Mr. EB

    I went 100% short today… but like the FLY I’m pretty nervous about my positioning. The market can kill you if you blink or go to the bathroom.

    I was up nicely 1 1/2 hrs ago, then down small, now up small. In the last hour, who the hell knows.

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  7. Sir Douchebag

    Christ, chill out.

    It’s called a RANGE. It’s supposed to be hard to trade. Just play the channels for now.

    Not every day is a fucking homerun 10% trend up/down day.

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  8. Paradigm Shift

    Major whippage everywhere you look

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  9. blowhard

    Fly, in all seriousness, what is the GS situation?

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  10. Damon

    I just decided to do options hedges on my long plays for this week at least. I feel safe that way.

    That FXP has some pricey options….hmmmm

    Don’t we need China’s market to screw the pooch for that sucker to rally?

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  11. Donny

    There’s absolutely NO REASON for this market to rally. It’s not oversold, there’s no positive news, there’s no tangible rebound in the economy anytime in the foreseeable future.

    Gawd Dammit, I hate to sound so negative, but we’re fucked! There is no escape.

    New lows are coming.

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  12. CAP

    The GS situation is the market pricing in Goldmans Sugar Daddy Paulson leaving Treasury in January.

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  13. The Fly

    GS looks like a fortune cookie.

    This is not a range. This is idiocy.

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  14. BuyOnTheDip.com

    sick of HK yet?

    that Floyd is a tricky bastard.

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  15. alphadawgg

    I suppose we’ll also see the return of the Yen carry trade, as China bids up commods. Wash, rinse, repeat.

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  16. WeeklyTA

    I am 100% short with no long positions. This is confirmation of a continuation

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  17. Steph

    Crazy thing is, GS isn’t even oversold yet. Close, but not yet. Another down day should get it there.

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  18. The Fly

    BOTD:

    You are quickly becoming an arch enemy of iBC.

    You’ve been warned.

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  19. Mushroomz

    Go read the fucking newspaper some more you bearish fucks.

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  20. Damon

    Wow….what petrid volume, I keep slapping my flat panel because it seems like it is stuck, but there just aren’t that many ticks!

    It’s like watching a swimming pool drain, hard to detect real movement until the end…..then sluuurp…then all your shares get sucked out the bottom.

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  21. Juice

    The bear trade could work thru Wednesday-ish, then prepare to reverse course for the bear deballing Thursday.

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  22. Aris

    i hate china so much.

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  23. charlie

    Anyone who saw Obama’s body language last Friday after he had been briefed on the economy knows that we are in deep shit and haven’t been told the half of it. MY BGZ shares will bootstomp this market American History X style and put me in Routan for the holidays.

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  24. Rookie Trader

    Watch out Mother Market will make you a real Idiot. Take some time hedge and wait for a trend. WTF kind of trading is this?

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  25. Aris

    i’m still on the sidelines, but the ‘buyers’ strike’, as art puts it, is still on, and it was also what precipitated the july and october disasters.

    just sayin

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  26. charlie

    *Roatan*

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  27. The Fly

    There is nothing to like about China. Nothing.

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  28. ALLPROz

    GOOG at 310.29 for a trade….stop at Oct. low…

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  29. ZenProfit

    Fly:

    Peking duck?

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  30. The Fly

    No. I hate Chinese food.

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  31. Donny

    This is nothing to like about the Oil & Gas index. Nothing.

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  32. There is nothing to like about DevilPup…nothing…ask his Mom

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  33. Thunderpup

    The market is in Fukio “Housewife” Fukura’s hands now. She put on the carry trade yesterday on the announcement of the Chicom stimulo package, but she’s gonna get spooked seeing US markets didn’t think much of it (barring a buying frenzy). She will repatriate Yen and eventually test the ability of banks to stop the Yen rise.

    Meanwhile, Nigel “Eurofag dickbreath” Hedge Fund manager will contemplate his meaningless leveraged long existence. Joe “dickhead” Hedge Fund will contemplate more redemptions while he reads the help wanted ads.

    Also, Ivy League endowment managers get more private equity investment “margin calls” and contemplate what to sell.

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  34. gappingandyapping

    HK will not go lower.

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  35. DEVILDOG

    Hey j & GENERATIONAL Bottom, time to wake up and count your losses. BTW, you’ll be doing that for the next 7 days. BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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  36. The Fly

    HK will surrender, eventually.

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  37. Jakegint

    Fly,

    What’s the PPT say about OXY-clean?

    _____

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  38. Rookie Trader

    China is bullshit. This was a move to stop protesting. People were going for their pay checks and the management left town. If you have no one to run the factory for fear of being killed [ All the fake money in the world can’t start the market to advance]. FXP is still the best move at the right time.

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  39. Juice

    The Fly – I bet you will surrender before HK .

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  40. Will the afternoon program buys emerge?

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  41. Jakegint

    Is Thunderpup my old pal Calvin?

    That last post sounded somewhat “Calvino-esque.”

    ______

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  42. 4fl3x

    Come on, quit picking on China.

    I’m long FXI foo’s.

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  43. The Fly

    Wrong Juice.

    HK is my enemy,

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  44. Long SU….short HK

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  45. Juice

    I’m long FXI as well. although, I’ve sold FXP Nov 65 puts as a hedge.

    Keep an eye on GS & GOOG as tells

    also, per Helene Meisler, if XLE can hold in there & outperform SPX, dat is a good sign

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  46. Damon

    It Feels Like they are going to sell it into the close, although that is just a gut feeling here.

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  47. Donny

    For the last 7 years or so, we’ve been hearing a bunch of absolute bullshit about the Chinese. The fucking PermaBulls were so consumed with searching for a reason to buy stocks, they devised this foolish idea of “decoupling”. Fucking decoupling … how stupid is that!

    China’s number one peril is political instability. The population is growing old faster than their banana republic economy is growing. It could become very nasty, very quickly.

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  48. WeeklyTA

    It’s about the break in the counter trend move. It’s over, at least for a day. I can’t vouch for anything past Wednesday.

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  49. Merlin

    I’ll make this bullshit market close down 200. Lucky for you, I’m in a relatively good mood. If I were grumpy, I’d close it down 400.

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  50. Thunderpup

    Is Thunderpup my old pal Calvin?

    Not unless you called me Calvin without my knowledge.

    One additional prediction:

    Karen Tso will once again look exquisitely stunning and happy as she reports the carnage in “A and Zed” bank.

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  51. The Fly

    Japan will get clocked tonight.

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  52. Jakegint

    Good news for one of Jake’s “monopoly” holdings.

    Seeya Krauts. Stick to making the “biers.” (sic)

    _________

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  53. Karl Marx

    I thought I had a post about redemptions/liquidation trumping seasonality this month, but who knows.

    SRS at the highs and giving this whore market a full on facial.

    Me rikey!!

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  54. Damon

    MOS just bounced off the previous days close, they are doing everything they can to keep it above it…as it keeps printing new day lows.

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  55. Jakegint

    Here’s comes the “Ernie Kovacs Half Hour of Fuckery” brought to you by Westinghouse.

    Right on time.

    ________

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  56. Aris

    donny, i agree with you partly. irrespective of their political system, the fact is, they’re only sitting on buckets of cash because we used credit to buy all the shit they build. now our credit is gone.

    they’re ass-out now. they’ll be back to selling arms to iran, north korea, and syria as their full-time job until we start buying ipods in size again.

    also, take a look at all their ‘infrastructure’. half of it is sitting empty, with the exception of a few cities.

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  57. China has been following the Japan model of the 1950s – export cheap stuff and import commods. China’s basic problemo is about 500 million too many people. The no.s do not add up – use 9% growth for 10 more years and those commods will be $200 oil and $200/ton coal.

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  58. Damon

    U.S. Post Office laying of 40,000 employees, first time in it’s history!

    http://www.ksla.com/global/story.asp?s=9247633

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  59. ALLPROz

    SBUX after the close looking U.G.L.Y.

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  60. Jakegint

    Just like me old stock tradin’ Grandpap used to say:

    Son, et’s not a fuggin’ bottom until ye’ve thrown up yer guts four, five, six, seven, eight times!

    __________

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  61. BeWater

    What is wrong with CLNE. Is Pickens having a going out of business sale?

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  62. mrkcbill

    DD is a jinx. Thats funny.

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  63. DEVILDOG

    Damn, I’ll bet those towel heads are pissed at C. How about asshole buffett and his buy American stocks now call. He sure is doing well on GS and his selling of Oct. put options. Cheating asshole. Mother Nature is totally fed up and is going to the elitists their own balls for an appetizer. BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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  64. Zulu Warrior

    Speaking of casinos, somebody is operating on LVS today. Got a huge spike around noon, followed by an equally big selloff.

    Then at 3:15 they ran it up like a scalded chimp again.

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  65. Employee8

    any thoughts on LVSreporting after the close

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  66. Paradigm Shift

    This tape is making me dizzy

    There is no way that this shit is healthy.

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  67. neil young

    china get mola..china people love vegas..the play is LVS long

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  68. Thunderpup

    Buffett sure likes selling puts – all the risk, little reward. He’s not going to get in Becky Quick’s panties that way, methinks.

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  69. Donny

    Circuit City bankrupt. Who predicted that last year? Oh, I know … it’s right here:

    http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/category/predictions-for-2008/

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  70. Just thinkin

    Fly,

    Anyway you can implement an “ignore user” button…so we can tune DEVILDOG out. That dude is simply a broken record player. Total fuckin douchebag.

    jt

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  71. FXP_Fucked

    Look at FXP today. It’s down on huge volume. Opened at the low of the day, and now threatening to head back to the opening low.

    Amazing how they can manipulate that thing with all the buying interest.

    Fly is on a major losing streak.

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  72. DEVILDOG

    Jake, you brought back memories. I worked for Westinghouse for 10 years back in the ’80s.

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  73. mdawsz

    MOTHERLESS WHORE!!!

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  74. Jakegint

    Sorry, make that the “Ernie Kovacs Final Twelve Minutes of Fuckery.

    Brought to you by Roto Rooter and Philip Morris.

    ________

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  75. alphadawgg

    What a day. My only bright spot is that the Giants won last night (although in their typical ugly manner).

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  76. alphadawgg

    …and actutally, that was last night. So yeah, today sucks monkey gonads.

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  77. Jakegint

    Circuit City bankrupt. Who predicted that last year? Oh, I know …

    You really ought to think about taking that mind reading act on the road, Donnie.

    _____

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  78. Yogi & Boo Boo

    I’ve never said I hated a fucking market, but I hate this fucking market…

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  79. Donny

    Jake-

    You mean The Fly.

    BTW, I think I’m gonna buy a small position of FXP at the close.

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  80. Thunderpup

    Late day fuckery is incredibly lame, as far as late day fuckery goes. Plus, it’s another contrary indicator. Fukio “Housewife” Fukura wakes up in a couple hours.

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  81. Anton Cigur

    FXP trading like it’s made of melamine and still sticky w/lead paint.

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  82. Donny

    Bought FXP @ 68.79

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  83. 4fl3x

    Grab a lil FXP for a hedge, damn you Master Fly.

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  84. Jakegint

    XLE — Green.

    CHK — Green.

    TSO — fucking verdant!

    ________

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  85. Fly,

    Perhaps a “punk buster” feature here…a semi-democratic voting system to kick off some redundant douchebags?

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  86. ALLPROz

    There goes SBUX……….

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  87. Jakegint

    Donny,

    Sorry, I thought you were talking about your own prediction. Even last year, the writing was on the wall for Crazy Eddie’s, er, I mean, Circuit City.

    This was my favorite prediction, btw:


    UPDATE:
    The Earth will explode, much to your chagrin.

    ____

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  88. Anonymous Douchebag
    Anonymous Douchebag

    Fuck corporate coffee, man!

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  89. Jakegint

    TSO, finishes up at $10.60….

    hmmmm… buyout looming?

    ______

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  90. the Bull

    Very long DIG in the upper 33’s.

    Election’s over, so is political fuckery bringing the prices down temporarily.

    The price of gas shall rise again!

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  91. Get you some DIG and DUG…can’t lose right?

    Nice break even portfolio.

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  92. other side of the earth
    other side of the earth

    China… small potatoes

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