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THE TURD INDICATOR AND YOU – MEMOIRS OF MARKET HIGHS

One really effective indicator of determining when a market run is “excessive,” is to see what type of stocks are outperforming. Let’s go back to summer of 2015. Most of the China internet stocks had doubled in 2-3 months and all the cheap trash stocks were smoking hot. You’d see dozens of them up 20% or more daily. That stat simply measures a specific genre of trader and when those guys are most active is when they’re most confident and comfortable. Why do we care about this genre of trader? Simply put, they’re the least sophisticated type of trader out there. When they’re invested, you’ll want to lighten your load onto them. Ew.

Occasionally, I will buy a stock I deem to be “a topper.” A real brown one. I’ll buy it and when I notice its up a lot, it sets off a signal for me about the market. Earlier this year it was $BLDP. Notice that pop on April 28th it had. Then notice that the $RUT topped on the 28th, starting a 6.5% decline in a few weeks.

Again, I use this to determine near term enthusiasm and a potential start of market weakness. This time around, I am debating buying $PLUG. That’s on the “all-time” turd list for sure.

Got a turd out there you’d put in this category?

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46 comments

  1. Formergeek

    FRO

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  2. gudenaev

    $AVP and $BBRY both setting up

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  3. kidstockibc

    Sell.It.All

    I’m out…Market is going to be a turd for the next month or so. GLTA

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  4. granpa

    Hey OA, you have had many winners this year indued.
    May I ask, how you view RUSS? I picked up some yesterday at 11.06 thinking of rounding up/out my week but now it looks like it has much more than a 1 day trade look to it on the 12 month daily. Could you please give it a look and forward a potential 1 to 3 week target.
    Jeff, have a much deserved weekend to relax.

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  5. kidstockibc

    Bot CRM 73 puts

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  6. ThomasJefferson

    $TWLO FRIDAY saves my hind end on expiry day. Got out of my original position for a scratch and my YOLO for a triple. – – $CPB puts for 400% – – $KMI ended up not quite a double which would be nice, had I not had an order in for $2.90 with mid-bid at $2.85, and ended up salvaging $1.50 5 days later.

    Bought $LN, trying to get $TXN pus, but I think everyone is checked out because I haven’t seen the ask move in about 45 minutes. I’ll be happy either way. Starting to worry about salvaging premium on a few longer dated things that are beginning to look ugly-ish.

    And bidding good riddance to $SFUN, $GILD, $WSM and $TSLA.

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    • Option Addict

      I YOLO’d today’s 54 calls @ .50 in my trade room, just .10 off it’s LOD. Going to be a daisy right hurr.

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      • Scott

        Nice Jeff, I gotta get back in there asap

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        • Option Addict

          Making some changes there near term. Should be worth checking out while rates are low.

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          • Scott

            Changes in just the rates, or adding additional features/content? Just curious. In the process of changing roles with work, which would allow me free time during day to trade and access your site.

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          • Option Addict

            Scott, both actually. Moving ahead of the crowd that’s coming back in the next 2 years or so.

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          • probucks

            Saved by the opex pin.
            Needless to say, I defend my possition on going short making more sense

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          • Option Addict

            Next week we battle. The fact that it waited for OpEx to rip like this, and the action in the last 5 minutes screams death to short sellers. 25% of the float?

            Too early. Short it at $75.

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    • Ben

      Drys

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    • lplongo

      Had a low limit order for a Oct LN call that filled a bit ago. So now I am in what I literally just wrote was too expensive… but I got the price I wanted so, yea.

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  7. PartTimeLover

    SHAK and MNST are looking good on the OA indicator.

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  8. dae42

    FCEL = mega turd.

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  9. Craig Drusbosky

    Hey Jeff – why the PLUG idea? Are you seeing trash stocks going today? Or just a thought that came to you? Thanks, Craig

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  10. scarface

    She traced the whole range and I am a buyer at the bottom of it. Long $LN calls.
    http://screencast.com/t/m9tWDNSX

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  11. purdy

    TWTR

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  12. scarface

    @OA I am off to Disneyland next week with my girls and will be joining the chat first thing Monday morning. Super stoked

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  13. ThomasJefferson

    My steady girl $NMBL is back into support. Shouldn’t buy anything else, but maybe…

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  14. matt_bear

    FEYE. 🙂

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  15. john_galt

    FCX

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  16. MSGT HARTMAN

    I’m the broken record with Tencent. Now one of the worlds most valuable company, and it is just now starting to expand into the PacRim, namely, and doubling investments into the US. And like Facebook, they are not afraid to throw money at their growth problems.

    We always think of the US leading the way expanding into Asia, what if the reverse occurs?

    It’s at all time highs, why it just has to tank here.

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  17. traderconfessions

    TXRH ready to break a wedge. Added to JUNO.

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  18. scarface

    Nice bounce off the boom of the range. Just like the book says. Lol. $LN

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  19. ThomasJefferson

    As far as the toilet stocks I had $kndi in there a while back as well. But haven’t looked at that chart in a long time

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  20. PartTimeLover

    Remembering a night in Mexico where I forgot to say sin hielo por favor….
    I give you SHLD,

    OA indicator,volume today huge short float, forgotten by everyone and just an overall disaster of a company begging to go to 16/17 in a heartbeat.

    Don’t forget to wipe.

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  21. cascadia

    How do Mary Jane stocks fit in with this theme? Thinking RMHB, CVSI

    LXU, SCCO, PLG are all pieces of shit, but they’re in the materials sector, how does that factor in to the theme?

    May the market lift my CSIQ and FSLR..

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  22. peaches

    I know a guy who bought his first house off of PLUG a while back. Good luck sir.

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  23. Otter5b

    OA How about PAY and HDP

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  24. i Bergamot

    NM, HOV

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