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IF YOU LIKE METALS, FORGET GOLD. BUY COPPER.

In light of the ongoing conversation of dollar/precious metals, if I were to take a look at the long side of this, you cannot ignore what copper has been doing into all this weakness in the metals.

Here’s a look at a 10yr profile of Copper futures.

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Copper has a similar chart as the metals, up until the puke phase. I’ve been a long term follower of Dr. Copper, using it as a daily indicator from 06-12. After that, it seemed to have lost its predictive value in terms of equity prices.

The relative strength in this is a thesis I am focused on going into next year. I’ve already placed long term money in FCX and SCCO. If I had to play metals, Copper interests me more here than Gold or Silver.

Just my humble opinion.

OA

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64 comments

  1. Tom

    OA, I missed initial move of LULU, here is a buy ? Thanks.

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  2. Tom Foolery

    Thanks OA!

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  3. gasman

    Anyone else holding GTIM from last week’s watchlist? breaking out here

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  4. chiefton15

    OA, based on the comments section from your GOLD post and the emotions it triggers I’m completely in your camp. The most people to get hurt will be if it sells hard. Might take a little bit of time after this move but I’ll be there.

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  5. TypeBTrading

    Are we holding JDST? I assume into the fray, but JDST curious. haha

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  6. billy

    Who ate the most soggy cookies in Vegas? My money is on Zombie

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  7. GoldFysh

    Jeff said he loaded the boat back up YESTERDAY I think.

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  8. linmoo

    Take a look at the epic divergence between the yen and gold. The Yen has been pretty correlated with future movement in gold since the start of the bear market in 2012. Unless the Yen is going up sometime soon, I don’t see how this rally in gold can last.

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  9. kidstock

    GPRO is going – going GONE!

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  10. chiefton15

    bailed on my NQ short for a loss and looking to get long a few things into the bell.This market is so resilient.

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    • Option Addict

      Steel looks solid.

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      • chiefton15

        STLD is one of my buys! Just waiting a few minutes to make sure we don;t get anything crazy going into the close.

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      • gasman

        Check out $VALE for a steel play. 3x oversold on daily, weekly and monthly charts using OA’s indicator. Never seen that before. Also sitting right at 2008 lows.

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  11. traderconfessions

    Of the 40 Biotech I have on my screen only one green. That’s a rotation.

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  12. bensteinsmoney

    SCTY on the move today …

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  13. dfasd

    metal BONERS all over the place! Textbook definition of a weekly hammer and HUGE volume.

    you gold bears are not being objective

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  14. dfasd

    Gold moves another 200 + if the Swiss pass their gold referendum

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  15. linmoo

    NFLX getting chased.

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  16. k_melancon

    Huge volumes in the miners today – looks like all the energy is gone after this week.

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  17. yoshii11

    crazy day, seems like a lot is working, while the dow sits. even the 3dprinters getting some love today. and how about Pandora, that CEO is minting it.

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  18. chiefton15

    bought DEC calls INTC (big position) SCTY GPRO added to BBRY
    Bought stock STLD GES

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  19. bensteinsmoney

    Joined OA on FCX here with TRQ (Copper with a gold kicker) in lieu of SCCO (I have aversion to Argentina & Peru).

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  20. bood

    isn’t copper a slow ( much less speculative ) comm?

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  21. Billiejones

    Depending on the deposit; copper, silver, gold, lead, zinc miners are one in the same….its just a matter of what they choose as their “primary” metal. The rest are just by-product credits. For example, many people think “gold” is what drives the price of gold miners…..its true to a degree, but silver affects many “gold miners” much more. Many of the mines i follow use silver as a major byproduct credit, and the grades and price of silver affect their production costs significantly.

    You’d be hard pressed to find a “Gold” miner that doesn’t also produce significant amounts of silver, copper zinc et al. Just an observation of the miners that I do follow closely. Also, from a miner standpoint, its hard to believe that sentiment could be worse…..many of the conference calls i listened to past two weeks were downright depressing.

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  22. Bchu

    I cursed it? Cant even admit gold is about rally hard?

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  23. SGT HARTMAN

    If you like your metal, you can keep your metal. Period.
    As far as miners are concerned, we should see a nice pop before years end.

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  24. JC

    You’re probably the stupidest person I’ve ever read on the internet. Some of the people disagreeing so violently gives me hope for the world. Unless you have some benefactor refilling your account everytime you blow up there will be hope you will gone soon.

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  25. thomasjefferson

    I think that’s the troll-iest comment I’ve ever seen on here. It’s so ignorant it’s kind of cute (or at least quaint). Good luck with your physical gold retirement account (held in crawl space for safe keeping). That will be easy to liquidate in your golden years at market price for Cheetos and such.

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  26. Bchu

    Yeh go ahead. And ill illustrate how you top ticked the fok out of it with ur posts. Calm the fok down. Ur the one thats always pointing fingers

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    • comella

      Yes he top ticked it, BUT THAT WAS THE POINT! When he buys it at $14, and calls for it to go to $40, then posts about it. That’s the point!

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  27. danny1980

    After looking at all the CULT/GROWTH/MOMO stocks; they really are looking sweet. With AMZN leading and GOOG lagging. LNKD looks awesome Z just took off. GPRO setting up; BABA up and flagging again. FEYE in full beast mode. TWTR looking ripe. TSLA up $15 in last week. This whole group looks awesome

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  28. kidstock

    Anyone else like the look of FNMA? Is this the kind of situation where we wake up one morning is it’s trading below $1?

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