- 5,000 leaked emails reveal scientists deleted evidence that cast doubt on claims climate change was man-made
- Experts were under orders from US and UK officials to come up with a ‘strong message’
- Critics claim: ‘The stink of intellectual corruption is overpowering’
- Scientist asks, ‘What if they find that climate change is a natural fluctuation? They’ll kill us all’
More than 5,000 documents have been leaked online purporting to be the correspondence of climate scientists at the University of East Anglia who were previously accused of ‘massaging’ evidence of man-made climate change.
Following on from the original ‘climategate’ emails of 2009, the new package appears to show systematic suppression of evidence, and even publication of reports that scientists knew to to be based on flawed approaches.
And not only do the emails paint a picture of scientists manipulating data, government employees at the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) are also implicated.
One message appeared to show a member of Defra staff telling colleagues working on climate science to give the government a ‘strong message’.
The emails paint a clear picture of scientists selectively using data, and colluding with politicians to misuse scientific information.
‘Humphrey’, said to work at Defra, writes: ‘I cannot overstate the HUGE amount of political interest in the project as a message that the government can give on climate change to help them tell their story.
‘They want their story to be a very strong one and don’t want to be made to look foolish.’
Professor Phil Jones, director of the Climatic Research Unit at the centre of the affair, said the group findings did stand up to scrutiny.
Yet one of the newly released emails, written by Prof. Jones – who is working with the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) – said: ‘Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get – and has to be well hidden.
‘I’ve discussed this with the main funder (U.S. Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data.’
In another of his emails, he wrote: ‘I’ve been told that Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is above national Freedom of Information Acts.
‘One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process.’
Other scientists are clearly against such a policy, but some seemed happy to collude with concealing and destroying evidence.
One nervous scientist wrote: ‘The figure you sent is very deceptive.’
‘I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run,’ wrote another.
The lead author of one of the reports, Jonathan Overpeck, wrote, ‘The trick may be to decide on the main message and use that to guide what’s included and what is left out.’
they should all hang
First hang the bankers, then the climatologists. Plenty of room on them gallows.
sure, more of this ‘people are corrupt on one side of the issue’ (but not the other) to prove ones viewpoint and agenda that 8 billion people have no significant affect on the environment and climate, iow we live in a fucking bubble and what we do has no effect on the environment, climate, our neighbor or someone clear across the planet
the climate is a 100% natural fluctuation between ice ages, droughts, global warming, primeval storms, utter calm . .. 8 billion peoples with their waste products, drilling, mining, damming of rivers, poking holes in the ozone, oil spills, concreting the planet, nuclear contamination, deforestation, air pollution, water pollution, thought & idea pollution have next to ZERO effect on his climate
we do not live in a world where one change effects another change, iow a cause and effect world … we all live in a little bubble world where what happens to our neighbor, outside our little bubble, has no effect on us
there aren’t enough shovels to bury the truth
“the bankers” have little to do with the mess we’re in.
it’s policy not the market that got us into this.
policy is not made by bankers, but by the media, lobbyists and politicians.
Who forced those evil bankers to give loans to people who were clearly not able to pay them back?
It’s like going after the hangman, not the judges, the jury or the policy makers who condemned the innocent to death in this metaphor.
to juice:
I’ve read many of your posts here and it’s clear that you’re either too young or too indoctrinated to understand any of the real causes.
I do not mean any offense. I know plenty of good people who grew up reading propaganda for 20 years… if you are one of them, the only way to break the cycle is actually thinking about what you are saying and the consequence of things you are proposing.
How do you end “pollution” by thoughts and ideas? How do you end 5 billion people producing “waste”?
Kill them. It is the only real solution. And this is the end goal of the gaia cult, of the green movement and the animal rights crowd.
It is the truth behind the left’s hatred of the individual and of the human being.
Your ideas, juice, are not new. The Khmer Rouge, Mao and all the other fans of eliminating pollutive ideas and human waste had the same agenda.
You know who they killed first? True believers in their own cause. So called “intellectuals”, i.e. people like you with grand ideas and monstrous solutions. Why? Because no genocidal maniac needs competition.
They only need slaves.
you must be a banker.
bankers used political clout to influence politicians to dismantle regulation in banking.
they also dismantled commodities regulation that has led to vast quantities of money speculating in those markets.
furthermore the greed of the bankers took us to the brink of destruction. conservative bankers and banks only leveraged so much by writing only a small percentage of toxic loans; thus not having to take bailout funds.
as for climate lies; well that is expected since it will raise taxes and keep a lid on competing business and societies.
my point is not that bankers are innocent.
it is that banks and what they do is a symptom, not the cause.
wall street certainly influences politicians with money (Obama got record breaking campaign donations last election from wall street) but nobody forces the media to report pro socialism 24/7.
and since Keynesian “economics” is just socialism in disguise, it is easy to see why the media is so anti lowering taxes and pro spending.
going after the bankers as the primary target is dangerous because it is just a distraction, like we see with the pro socialism OWS crowd.
for them, bankers are the Jews and the rich capitalist guys who need to be “put down”.
what do you think would happen after we got rid of the evil bankers?
do you think we get lower taxes and less government takeovers, less dept and more individual freedom?
no, we’d get more tyranny because the bankers never were the source of the problem and although guilty, were merely a straw man.
for you and for most here, “bankers” might be seen as part of the socialist government takeover.
for the left, they are symbols of capitalism.
the source of the problem is not money, it is ideology. how money is distributed, created or destroyed depends on ideology.
we are in this mess because of Keynes and the people who keep pushing his false message, help electing people who believe his message and help destroy people who want to curb spending and lower taxes.
is it bankers who come up with fake sexual harassment stories about a tea party candidate that wants a flat tax?
no, it is the media. and don’t start the “corporate” media bullshit. if I believe in redistributing wealth and punitive taxation on the working class, I do not need a freaking check from a “banker” to make me destroy an anti socialist politician or lobby for another obama.
I’d do it for free, because I believe it.
do you think someone is paying “juice” here to write his socialist propaganda? no, he just read the NYT a few time too often and now he believes that the true evil is the independent, working, self sufficient individual that needs to be taxed, surveilled and kept in chains and after he is milked dry, disposed of like the human earth-polluting trash he is.
Ideology is ruling this country.