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  1. Marc David

    First bill that makes a lot of sense. Haterz gonna hate but it’s finally addressing what NEEDS to happen vs. what people “want to hear” or big business likes to hear. Although it truly appears to benefit both. Breaks for companies to hire local United States workers. Short of a Tariff on imported goods, it’s getting closer.

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  2. JakeGint

    What “needs to happen” Marc?

    And how in the world do you think government can effect it efficiently?

    It boggles me to think that in this day and age, we still have people (Dems, mostly) who do not understand the overwhelming complexity of our economy, and the absolute gargantuan hubris one must possess in order to believe one could actually guide it without consequence.

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    • TeahouseOnTheTracks
      TeahouseOnTheTracks

      One need only look as far as the GOP debate last night to see the number of people that think they can … think they can.

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      • JakeGint

        That’s just not true, TH. Everyone on that panel said “get government out of our lives, and watch the economy grow.”

        That’s all it takes… it’s the fucking meddling that impairs an economy.

        Shit, even if you call the 2008-9 period a cyclical normality, you have to ask, why hasn’t the cycle turned as it always does?

        Answer — for the same reason it did not in the 30’s… government interference in the process.

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  3. Scavenger

    Oblahblah’s jobs bill is nothing but political theater. Watch what his actions, not his mouth.

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  4. TJWP

    Jake – I completely fail to understand how after watching corporations and the ‘free market’ absolutely RAPE consumers and the world your proposed solution is ‘get government out’, which I read as: deregulate (I may be misunderstanding what you mean. i.e you could mean cut subsidies… etc).

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    • JakeGint

      That’s a bunch of bullshit. We’ve got plenty of “regulations” — the problem is they are written by lobbyists for the same corporations that you feel are raping you.

      If you think a government that is doling out $3 trillion a year in budgetary dollars is in the business of protecting you, you need to wise up. The only thing that protects consumers is efficient and broad-based competition — the same competition that Big Gov’t and it’s cronies in Large Behemoth Corporate America do not want.

      The Big Businesses don’t want competition for obviuus reasons, the Big Gov’t critters don’t want it because it’s far harder to raise campaign bucks from a bunch of little guys than it is to stick your hand in Goldman or GE’s pockets.

      That’s they way Congress is, no matter who’s in power, so the only way to break that cycle is by allowing greater competition and market innovation. There are plenty of market-based remedies for bad behavior in our Law books… we certainly do not need an unaccountable federal bureaucracy on top of that to decide who wins and who loses.

      Let me be the last person in the world to advocate for the plaintiff’s bar, but those guys are some of the best entreprenuers in the world, let them police your business world, and let them get rich doing it. They will do a far better– and more incisive — job than the employment crushing bureaucrats in Washington.

      This is an important vid I posted on my blog the other day, you should check it out: Three Myths of Capitalism.

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      • TJWP

        So we are on the same page. Sorry I feel like I raised your blood pressure. I actually agree with you completely now that you have explained it like this. Get the money out of politics and many of these problems will go away.

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      • pistilstamen

        I can absolutely get on board with this. If there was a politician (party affiliation irrelevant) that ran based solely on these principles I think we would finally be on to something.

        See, for me, the trouble is that most (I’m going to claim ignorance here, so forgive me) Republican candidates sprinkle in (or lather on) the religious/social conservative ideological bullshit that makes me want to throw up in my mouth and punch a hole in the wall. I feel so diametrically opposed to that viewpoint that I’m blinded with frustration and just can’t see past it.

        Nevertheless, I completely agree with your prescription for improving things.

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  5. The Fly

    COMMYS

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    • JakeGint

      Is it Christmas already??

      Her Commys Holly, That Is So Gent

      Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, now syng we.

      Her commys holly, that is so gent,
      To pleasse all men is his intent.
      Alleluia.

      But, lord and lady off this hall,
      Who so ever ageynst holly call,
      Alleluia.

      Who so ever ageynst holly do crye,
      In a lepe shall he hang ful hye.
      Alleluia.

      Who so ever ageynst holly do syng,
      He maye wepe and handys wryng.
      Alleluia.

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      (There’s no carols like the auld carols)

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