Most of my dealings with persons of disinterest online have to do with people who’ve been wrong on the markets since 2009, bankrupt 3 times over shorting the markets, with extreme bones to pick with anyone and everyone who are long equities. This, of course, is nothing new in the world of speculation. It’s just that the shit throwers have a larger microphone to spew their rhetoric.
Chartists like to default on the lines on a graph as a reason to buy or sell stocks. Those lines are usually based on something fundamental. The chartists are either too busy or lazy to figure out why, so they chalk it up to “volume explosions” and “price explosions”– for breaching the holy and sanctimonious moving averages.
The fundamentalists are the brains on Wall Street. They do the numbers and sometimes get harangued by momentum moves, which defy most of the tenets of value investing. Their investments are often methodical, slow, but highly efficient.
The last part of Wall Street are the short sellers, which are broken into two distinct parties. The first are the value guys turned dark side, like Jim Chanos and at times David Einhorn. Although they are looking to destroy companies, there is usually a reason for their disdain, e.g. fraud, bubble, fad, etc.
The other part of the short seller cabal are the shit throwers. They cling to religious ideas behind their selling. They sell because a stock is up, or because insiders sold a little, or because a lock up expiration looms, or because a certain stock is popular, so they simply hate on it and short it. A perfect example of these people are the ones who insisted on selling short AAPL, right before the iPhone 6 release.
Clearly, there were better names to short, ones without $150 billion in cash, trading at extreme value levels. But they had to sell it because others liked it–peacocking all the way towards a tax loss. These people are trolls, vagrants, perverts, alcoholics, and gluttonous pigs!
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I have taken a drubbing these last few days. Particularly in the emerging markets…i was supposed to sell monday but thought i would get a sellable bounce. Bad idea.
So where do you think the GPRO bottom is? At the moment it doesn’t appear there is one.
Shut up
Not tweaking you just curious…it has been a sight to behold.
But not worse than EARL. Who wudda thought crude and go pro were so tightly correlated.
GPRO is an oil stock.
You see, the biggest buyer of GPRO cameras were the wildcatters – who attached it to their heads while drilling. They document their exploits to share with their friends in less desolate places.
hahhahaha to the both of you….good stuff
GPRO is untouchable until near the next lockup expiration date Dec 23, when another 100 million shares will be available for sale .. the last lockup a month ago, only released 12 million shares
Fundamentalists definitely seem to win out over time, but when a multiple can easily go from 14 to 20 (and back), there’s a lot of room for short- and medium-term pain.
Senor Fly. What do you make of the who’s who of talking heads all hitting the bricks of late? Seriously every head ever. Even the ones with glass eyes, fake hair, bad plastic surgery,and serious inability to speak properly. Why now?.
Speak english please.
The financial television has been flooded with the titans of investing lately. The who’s who of CNBC talking heads. They are all bullish and have not been on the television recently. Why are they all doing the rounds now?
To prop up markets. There isn’t an upside for the country to have markets going down. I do not understand why short sellers can’t grasp this.
You do realize that short sellers do not cause markets to go down.
They exacerbate the short term movements of the markets. Do not think for a second there isn’t a such thing as short raid.
In an individual stock yes, In the stock market as a whole no. At tops there is an absence of short sellers and the buyers dry up. There is no cabal causing the market to go down.
Agree, but they could be looking for a buyer as well. Some of these people are from way back. The moth balls had to be taken off the suits.
i wouldn’t mind a huge crash because that would be a great buying opportunity
Jezus x-rist, if I hear another freaking suit on the Tee Vee say the drop in oil is a blessing to the 99%, my head is going to explode. Just like how every other suit has been warning about higher rates the past three yrs lol ! What a joke.
The higher rates talk is pure shit. The lower oil talk is also shit. While we might benefit from cheap oil long term, there will be an adjustment period.
Fly, do you know any programmers that create black boxes? Can they really build a better mouse trap?
no
unless you have a defined ability to exploit network latency deficiencies amongst the sheeple
Transparent boxes work better.
I AM CALLING A BOTTOM IN OIL….RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW.
LOAD EM UP
and that means GPRO too, obviously.
Agree. Crude is the tell of implosion. It must bottom now. What do you make of the “shale revolution” “we are Saudi Arabia” being spun into “low gas is a boom”. The horseshit never ends.
huggie, you been drinkin?
Crude is going to 50 before it bottoms and ends at 60. It has been ordained by the Saudis — in order to crush our friends in ND and our enemies in Russia. They *are* the marginal producer… and can swing prices however the fuck they want. They are the Fed of oil… do you really want to fight them?
Fly are you putting us to work again.
No more funnies for you.
Crude Oil looks like death, on the daily, weekly, and monthly charts. Unless there is some chatter of lower production from the Saudi Fed, I only see this going to low 50s high 40s for resolution before we have any chance of a reversal higher. No position.
No doubt there will be some nervous folks manning the trading terminals for crude futures, debt, equity, and derivatives of related energy securities. Fat finger anyone?!
Oil doesn’t run GDP like it once did.They
don’t care so much.
2.81% 30 year T-Bond yield should be scaring the hell out of you people
I think that’s a reflection of all the cash sloshing around
Really? Historical low yields worldwide are “cash on the sidelines” not anything else. Not like any other reason?
It’s been low for so long it’s growing roots
Ok, that was funny.
Why the fuck would you want to be long if the market is going to hell? There’s a difference between short sellers who short because they hate and short sellers who short because something is obviously about to drop and they want to profit from such a blatantly obvious opportunity $GPRO.
Mtpenny
You are being disingenuous. You were dying when gpro was 85. I remember it vividly. Hindsight is indeed 20-20 here, isn’t it?
I was only dying because I didn’t have enough margin, If I had your kind of cushion I would’ve been adding to my position every $10 pop
exactly my point. Had you known the exact and immediate destination of GPRO, you would have managed it better. Do not pretend to have discovered the God particle. You caught a wave. Humble yourself.
True, all I knew was it was going to go down sometime around December 22nd. Did not expect an orchestrated short squeeze. There are too many variables to predict the future with absolute certainty, but you can use some common sense and fundamental knowledge about basic Supply/Demand Economics to make an educated guess. http://www.bigskyinvestments.com/blog/certainty
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… filled up today like it’s 1999 !!!
$2.10 / gallon !!!
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… I thought about “Fly’s gas station chum” !
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… based on Fly’s “gas station chum” anecdote … back in mid October …
…”The Fly” … wrote a compelling Blog about how we should ALL take a look @ $PTRY …
… to my knowledge the stock hasn’t been mentioned since !
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Fast Forward … today $PTRY is UP + 20% since that post !!!
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Sometimes we’re so busy GIVING advice … we don’t LISTEN to our own advice !!!
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… An Opportunity Awaits was the post … FWIW
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… hindsight …
That was a really nice call !!!
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It doesn’t matter if you pick the bottom on oil! You have been conditioned to think that what goes down must go up, as if that wasn’t asinine to begin with!
Oil may bottom at 55, 50, 45 – doesn’t matter. Cheap oil is here to stay. There will be no rocket ship rally. We have the Sauds nuts in a vice grip. The gov will reap benefits when they increase gas taxes in 2015. Obviously some poorly positioned companies will go belly up. The simple fact is the tech is here to make money at $60 a barrel. Surplus barrels a day is set to DOUBLE in 2015. Not because the consumption isn’t there. US of Oil, bitches.
You should become a salesman of junk bonds. They are all about to get fired.
Deflation???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxz6EF5ct5U
if shorting AAPL is so stupid, why not go long AAPL? Usually what happens stocks crash when wall st. fears competition and or loss of revenue, regardless of how much cash the company has on hand.
I am long Apple.
Don’t mess with Icahn — that guy means business.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again balt and all shippers are done. It was horrible call ignoring all facts especially that they failed to run with the last spike in rates. The ship brokers are cited as saying there is a complete and total lack of any sort of demand. It’s no longer efficient to ship coal or most other product for that matter. Globalization has shifted to localization and the retarded ship owners just keep on ordering new builds. It’s actually criminal that they are allowed to go public.
http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/asia-dry-bulk-capesize-market-imploding-on-lack-of-cargo/
$GPRO looking pretty good pre-market. Just pre-market though, on volume I could produce. 😀
My local gas station is giving away a GPRO camera free with every fill-up.
My local station should be providing strippers at the pumps at 3.59/gallon.