Just so you know, effective midnight, ALL iBC BLOGGERS, with exception to Woodshedder, Senator JakeGint and myself, will be locked out of the site, in order to make way for “election festivities.” What does this mean for you, the common folk?
Well, for one, it will means an education, in the arts of political science. Secondly, I will teach you all you need to know about freedom, AND MORE. The Honourable Fly will be presiding over you lowly aristocrats, as if he was passing judgment for the after life. Tomorrow’s elections will shape America for generations to come and effectively send those commy/scum bastards back to where they belong (country clubs, upscale mansions, high end resort areas with exotic women etc.).
I will teach you all you need to know about politics, with the trusty help of my left leaning comrades, Senator JakeGint and Holly WoodShedder.
If your primary concern is stocks/bonds/commodities etc, you are an idiot, for a guillotine with your name on it hangs in the balance. Today’s trade is worthless dog crap aka “mere child’s play”, while tomorrow’s vote is the treasury. My positions are set in stone, just up to the point where I shatter said stone with my bare fists and release them. You should know, my long positions are making me rich again, while VXX is just being silly ol’ VXX.
At any rate, prepare for the revolution, as if bowl a sugar was thrown into your face, in the midst of a beehive getting its face kicked in with a baseball bat.
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Bush passed an unfunded Medicare prescription drug benefit and started two wars that have been funded by the Chinese buying our bonds. That is the Republican Communism – do it anyway, do not fund it and give the richest a big tax cut. It is like the line from the Mel Brooks movie ‘Blazing Saddles’ – “Our town [country] is turning into shit….” It does not matter who/what is on power, it is all bad. They are doing their best to make Nixon look better in hindsight. –Screwed We Are
Let me guess… public school educated?
For all Bush’s alleged spending misfeasance, he didn’t get to a trillion in the wink of an eye like these current mithah flickas did.
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Jake- isn’t that a result of loss of tax revenues due to the recession?
No, it’s the reslut of a $3 trillion budget bill.
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(laughter) when madness is miss stepping into trouble, insanity is carrying on like nothing has happened.
Jake,
Obama has cut taxes on most Americans. Fact.
Enough with the nonsense. We saw exactly how the Republicans rule. Communism for the rich; the plank for the middle class. Cut the crap already and start acting like a thoughtful person. The republicans have ruined this country.
Show me that “Fact.” All I know is that the healthcare bill ALONE raises my taxes by more than 5%.
That’s not including letting the 2003 cuts lapse, which will immediately become the largest tax increase in history. Obama cut about $2 and no one knows about it because it was a joke, and rescindable in two years.
Clue in.
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I’m so looking forward to seeing the great improvements your preferred politicos will implement, sir.
You are really such a little lackey tool if you think for a moment this trip to the polls will bring us some form of profound change. Fat-cat partisanship is the lowest common denominator, and that is where we’re at.
Have a nice day.
Lefty trogs are always so dismally cynical. Cheer up, M. Commie, better times are a’ coming.
And know this… the RINO’s have been put on notice… no one’s going to stand for the quisling bullshit anymore. It’s Ryan’s Way, and Christie’s Way, or the highway.
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As usual, you folks rule with threats. We all know what to call that.
How are you being threatened Spooky? Am I threatening your weak arguments by showing you the errors rife within them?
Stop whining, and sharpen up.
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republicans just passed the ball to the dems. the republicans would have done the exact same thing. only difference being that fox news and rush blowhard would be championing how the republicans saved the country.
i am a republican by the way. did you go to exeter?
Both Democrats and Republicans have it wrong. Democrats and tax and spend and Republicans are tax cuts and spend. You can’t have a trillion dollar a year deficit for the next ten years and come out ok. Spending has to be cut including the entitlements. Revenue has to increase one way or the other. I don’t like paying taxes any more then anyone else but with the dollars 14% decline over the last couple of months and all commodities going up by an average of 50%, we are paying for it one way or another anyway. We have to live within our budget as a country just like we do as families.
BTW I am a registered independent that has voted mostly Republican. The last 8 years the Republicans were in office showed me that they are not as fiscally responsible as they claim to be. The congressmen from my state were among the worst of them. They kept getting elected because they were bringing home the bacon.
We are going to need a little more common sense then we have shown as a country for the last decade or so.
Fly for president, Jake for VP!!
Yeah, you are a Republican like Lincoln Fuggin Chafee’s a Republican.
No, I’m from the mean streets of Lawn Guyland, via Catlick School. None of that poncey prep school sausage party bit for me.
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i am a republican the way you so-called republicans are not; you radio-listening tv-watching detractors who have to get your opinion and what to criticize from radio-blowhard or fox. where were you all when bush2 was doing his best to destroy the country? bush never saw a program that he liked that he would not pass with no funding (no child left behind, medicare prescription drug, etc.).
if you think we would not have massive deficits right now with a republican president, you are wrong; a republican president would have promoted and passed the same ‘recovery’ plan. and the republican pundits would be hailing republican president for ‘saving the country’ and saying that “deficits don’t matter”. and that is what you would ‘think’. i suppose you are supporting newt blah blah gingrich next time around?
I am a democrat the way you so called democrats are not; you Keith O watching brainless robots that chanted “We want Change” but demanded nothing from your president once he was elected. I want the poor and the sick taken care of. I don’t want an open check written to every fat ass that wants to sit on his/her ass and milk the country for all it’s worth just because they can. I am a democrat that takes pride in diversity, yet at the same time doesn’t have to prove my innocence by voting for socialist and communists.
If
Rob — you’re full of shit, so sorry. Why is it that seminar Leftists that try to claim they are old school Republicans (you are not even a RINO, so sorry) always come out with the bullshit about Fox news and the tube?
Do you realize how lamely transparent you are? And we had Bush for eight years and NEVER had the kind of deficits CUMULIATIVELY that your boy O’Bammy has put in place in tje ;ast two. And that was with two gigantic raging wars going on that we were actually trying to WIN. Some trick your guy pulled with his trillion dollar spending spree. Now he only has to blow his was in Afghanistan for the Biggest Loser title.
Your buddy Jimmah Cahtah will be relieved, at least.
And no, I will not be supporting Newt Gingrich, who is nowhere near conservative enough for me. Besides, he couldn’t win in a million years with all his baggage.
Mitch Daniels is the best out there right now, but Christie might convince me too.
And Rob? — try to be more honest with yourself, because you are fooling NOBODY.
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carter 2nd worst president in history. he thanks bush2 for raising his status.
jake. i am not trying to fool anyone. no one will ever take me out of the republican party, even as fucked up as it is. i prefer we cut massively as britain has done and repeal the bush tax cuts; it will take a long time and some hard stands to undo this mess, many years and many bought and paid for politicians in the making. winston churchill at times despised the conservative party too. it is ok for me to be a republican and currently despise the party. we need leadership that we do not have [and it will not come from the old hacks nor from meg whitman et al]. it is a sick county, a sick political discourse and a lousy outlook not matter what.
Why would repealing the Bush tax cuts work, exactly? Did you ever take an economics class? Why would you attack the private sector at its most vulnerable point?
Yes, cut spending to the bone, so that you do not have to harm the vulnerable private sector by raising taxes again. The Bush tax cuts were nothing– they only took the top level to 35%. Reagan’s top level was 28%! Federal Taxes should NEVER be higher than that, and raising them is only self-defeating if growth and employment is your aim.
Cut the Federal government to a defense oriented entity, as it was ordained in the Consitution and devolve the remaining powers to the States, as directed.
If you beleive that then you can say you are a Republican, if all you want to do is pay for O’Bama’s bigger government, you can turn in your decoder ring now.
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PS — you are correct Carter was the worst President, but your friend O’Bama has taken that title in less than 24 months.
Hands down, the worst.
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i am not so sure what the constitution specifies – my guess is not much – about defense, but i do know that Jefferson warned about overseas involvement.
Jake i remember when clinton looked in the camera the first time i remember with a big public lie and said, “i tried harder than i have tried anything in my whole life to give a middle class tax cut [that i promised] but i just couldn’t do it.” i laughed at at him a the time, but in the fullness of time, i realize that he had Robert Rubin behind him telling him that the country needed fiscal stability, and it worked. low deficit, strong dollar, confident markets. what we are doing now, should it continue, has to come back to haunt us.
it is going to take us at best ten years or more to get our fanances in order, even with massive spending cuts and tax increases – tax increases by the way should be a republican position, not the knee-jerk mantra of tax cuts – leading to lower deficits. if we do not get our collective balance sheet in order, then i fear in ten years time the country being financially prostrate with its pants down begging china and whoever else not to fuck us. it is not a pretty picture, there are no neat, clean or easy ways out of this mess. as churchill said, ” i offer only blood, tears, toil and sweat…”
reagan, by the way, was the original big spender.
Jake, et al:
How do you think we arrived at this moment, the largest recession in the history of the country? Do you just blindly blame Obama and Pelosi?
That is short-sighted and misguided. I don’t mean to suggest that Democrats are any better when it comes to the deficit, although they have a better case for saying so based on the contrasting fiscal records of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.
That said, the national debt belongs to both parties. At least the Democrats don’t go on Fox News day after day proclaiming how fiscally conservative they are, and organize tea parties to rant about deficits, without ever putting forward any plan for reducing them. Nor do they pretend that they have no responsibility whatsoever for projected deficits, at least half of which can be traced directly to Republican policies.
By the way, if you actually supported George W., which would be shocking considering that you seem like a scholarly gentleman, I would recommend reading the following book: Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy.
Good Day Sir
Hey Bill!
Thank you self-revealing Democrat controlled Congress since 2006.
It’s apparent with all that cigar smoking down in the nether regions, old Bill has forgotten exactly how the budget is constructed and passed.
For a “refresher” old Bill might want to look at the deficits during Bush’s first six years, and then the deficits that followed Nancy and Harry Reid’s ascension into power.
And Bill? Try to keep in mind that we had two wars raging before Nancy and Spendthrift Harry showed up.
No one has a talent for wasting the taxpayer money like you vote-purchasing Dems. Seeya for another 30 years or so.
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roflmao…
Question is this: which party enabled the reversal of the glass stiegel, increases the amount of leverage the banks could take on, and which party is fighting tooth and nail every attempt to legislate the banking criminal cartel? Republican Party is the humanities largest destructive force and will impoverish 99% of youse cocsuckers for the benefit of very few cartels. Dems will only impoverish 80% of you:) and as a bonus, will have the priveledge of utilizing a few bridges that lead to nowhere!
Other than that they are both inept/paid for ‘institutions’ and reps would have printed same or more as the dems have done in the last two years. See, they both take advise/orders from the banking cartel. It’s not like Obama is econ wizard, he has to talk to his advisors about this. And because both parties draw from the same think-tank with difference being very small, we is all fucked!
It looks like the reps will win big this time around. I wonder how quickly you will see them change all their fiscaly responsible principles and continue to enable the QE uninterrupted for years to come.
It isn’t the role of government to “save” businesses from their own stupid business plans. Too big to fail is too stupid. If they are too big, they should have been broken up years ago like Standard Oil was. I don’t see BP getting bailed out. Yes it would have a caused a sudden and temporarily critical freak-session panic in every industry. Things would readjust in a few months.
Don’t bother to respond to “Joe.” He’s the forum’s dumbest human, as he doesn’t realize Glass Steagal (repealed under Clinton) had nothing to do with the meltdown but Fannie and Freddie’s bloated acceptance of risky loans sure did.
And we all know what party the Congressmen from M-ASS-achusetts (Frank) and Connecticut (Dodd) who threw their bodies in front of any GOP attempt to reform Fan and Fred belonged to, don’t we?
I mean, we know…. but Joe apparently doesn’t, so don’t bother.
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What a true evil cocsucker this jake Cunt is:
You might not be stupid but you are a blatant liar. I know that you know that you are lying and muddying the water much the same as your favorite propaganda show-fox ‘news’.
First, It was Gramm and his Nazi party that pushed for repealment of glass steagal.
Second, It was these same cocsuckers that lobbied for and enabled insane leverage. Fan and fred would have never been a problem if they were not allowed to leverage 50:1
Third, here’s a video of your furor preaching the same game as frnak and dodd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68
This forum is far too smart for your idiocy. Maybe you can sell this crap to your inbred Midwest, Southern imbeciles but we have had enough your half-truths.
You, CUNT, are a perfect example of someone who will “mindlessly” do anything to further ‘your’ party’s ideas. If you were born in Yemen, you’d be the first one wearing a suicide belt! Think about that for a while!
Good video. Has a point.
But I didn’t like much that Bush did anyways. Particularly the overspending, and increasing government powers.
The role of the government isn’t decided by you. It’s decided by the people. And if the people want to save businesses that are too greedy–hardly stupid–it’s because they’ve been told over and over again that “nationalization” means communism. This was the best we could get from the right-wing country that we live in.
If you want to see a success story on how to fix banks, check out Sweden.
Sorry dipshit, there’s this thing called the Constitution that keeps INDIVIDUAL rights sacred.
That includes property rights, which the government cannot override, no matter the will of the mob.
This is not a “democracy” like the Jacobins constructed in Revolutionary France, it’s a a Consitutional Republic, and you do not have voting rule over my sovereignity, no matter what your maleducation.
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Sorry friend, there’s this thing called the U.S. Constitution that keeps individial rights sacred, no matter the will of your phantom “people.”
That includes property rights, which the government cannot override, no matter the will of the mob.
This is not a “democracy” like the Jacobins constructed in Revolutionary France, it’s a a Consitutional Republic, and you do not have voting rule over my sovereignity, no matter what your maleducation.
Crowd: [in unison] BULLSHIT!
The Sheriff is a __________!
Don’t send those valuable mules down that shaft, what are ya crazy?
They cost money!
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Wow, I was certain I was going to watch Stewart and Colbert tomorrow night…..now I think I will tune in here instead!
Viva villa!!
Merlin can we get a POOF!
Would not a bowl of honey be more appropriate?
you actually think that the honey will come out of the bowl? or were you planning to just throw the entire bowl with said “glue” I mean “honey” still in it?
carry on.
It’s good I have waaaay-out-of-money options aka VXX, for that black swan. Errr, I mean, clam.
Black clam event. Hahaha.
hrmmmm can I get a curse ruling on “commy/scum bastards” and “dog crap” as it relates to the cursing moratorium of Dow10k 2010.
Thank You
Sincerely,
The Common Folk
“Bastard” is merely a descriptive for the fatherless whooahs.
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The inventor of the toilet is John Crapper. Is it a descriptor tied to this estimed inventor, or using a name in vain? Innocent until proven guilty I say.
I find political theories, ideology and “how it should be” to be a colossal waste of time and energy. I shall no longer eat my heart out for a country that doesn’t have one. That said, I’m looking forward to hearing the realistic, pragmatic prose of the Honorable Fly and his distinguished and fabulous cohorts.
(Thank God for the internet, because it helps me find the last few sane people on the planet to talk to, and the last few gentlemen to associate with. If I had to watch the asshattery of “You Decide 2010” without your support, I would be forced to suck bullets out of a gun.)
Gint is a lefty whacko? Who knew?
I have a hard time believing that.
He was jumping over a sar-chasm.
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I am 92.66667% bullish. On the other hand, I’m halfway leaning to buying some of your silly ol’ VXX, just for policital s&g’s.
Don’t count on anything changing. There will be rhetoric about cutting spending. When it comes down to it though, nobody has the balls to cut spending where it needs to be cut the most; Social Security,Medicare, Military etc… If I were Emporer, I would set spending back to year 2000 levels and give the younger generation the opportunity to opt out of the Social Security/Medicare ponzi scheme.
Face it. Devaluation is a more desireable choice than touching mom and pops welfare money.
Absolutely… yes.
Not desirable choice. Just politically expedient. And as much as I hate to say it, I think you should have 10 year presidential terms. Not 4 years. 4 is not long enough to accomplish things without overly reviewing them, etc.. In the present case, for example, I would not like that. But a lot of duds seem to get 8 years anyways.
Are you nuts? I’m pulling my hair out over the cube we’ve got bowing to the Saudis right now, and he’s only in 23 months now…
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The SQUARE we had in there before didn’t bow to the Saudis.
He kissed their asses, and its hard to bow with his head up their ass.
The bin Laden- Bush Family Partnerships, anyone?
Yeah, the “Square’s” deal was a Partnership, not a servant-hood. Obammy’s main schtick is that “America is no better than anyone else” hence his bowing and scraping to every two bit shitpot Third World dictator. Including Hugo Chavez! Your man is embarrassing, fellah, so sorry.
BTW — “Square?” What are you, 107 years old, daddy-o?
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I think he was showing your man to be two dimensional (square) whereas you referred to his man as a cube ( three dimensional). I still say comparing Bush jr. to Obama is like comparing an inept chimp to an inept gorilla. Look at the party platforms and not the apes.
And party track record.
If I was Emporer (sic) I’d start shooting lightning out of my fingers, immediately.
I agree nothing will change, but you’ll never get them to let the young opt out of SS/MC. Without the earning young workers, there IS no program.
Devaluation has begun and will continue, for it is the easiest choice to make today, with the fewest political consequences.
2 more years of the same bullshit and maybe a third party gets real traction. Almost no one (democrat or republican) is willing to acknowledge we are a nattion in decline. It doesn’t have to be that way. Third world slaves make our consumables. We have to admit our standard of living will decline in light of this and adjust our manufacturing philosophy to reflect this. In regards to the boomers, just because you are old and sick doesn’t entitle you to care that costs more than you ever made during your working life. Also, the US cannot afford to be the sole protector of the free world. If other countries want to bask under the umbrella of freedom we provide, then they better pay up. Real fiscal conservatives need to step up. There are a lot of people in D.C. and on Wall Street that need to be indicted and tried for their crimes.
Agree, but it will never happen. Not without the second American revolution, and THAT will go well, I’m sure
Dave, you just summarized my idea that the USA is Trantor! Thankyou!
What the heck is Maria wearing on CNBC today? Someone should have a talk with her.
maria’s been sniffing too much of the white stuff from kudlow’s desk. she’s going all in. everything.
Since the lobotomy, her ability to to dress herself has deteriorated!
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised!
Winter in America.
I will do my part in the revolution.
I intend to take over Cinderella’s castle at Disney World in the name of iBC and turn it into an FTK’d Homosexual Opera House where traders can sashay in and out while enjoying cheap beer and throwing giant smoked turkey legs at the pasty white skin Brits in their fanny packs and black socks.
Hahaha!!! – Thats a KEEPER bro!
The low for the week has been printed …
I love how many people still hold on to the hope that politicians and the government are going to do things that make their lives grand, happy and wealthy….reminds me of children on Christmas Eve staring at the night sky hoping to see a glimpse of Santa.
But politicians are all trying their honest best. They never make promises without carefully researching all sides of an issue and testing their feasibility through the filter of common sense. They all strive to work together for the common good of mankind as is their mandate.
There are 2 books everyone with political opinions should read.
First: Foundation Series by Isaac Asimov. The USA is Trantor.
Second: Faith of the Fallen by Terry Goodkind.
Foundation is a Dem’s dream — the ultimate planned economy. Sorry, the variables are too entropic and c omplex even for those guys’ mathematics.
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I’m not trying to defend or promote psychohistory. What I mean is that Trantor got too big and started collapsing on itself due to stagnation which slowly bred a status quo culture which is the death knell of a vibrant society. Expectations should never include assuming that everyone will give you something for nothing.
I mean …stagnation from anti-incentive policy measures which…
Gotcha. I just remember reading the Foundation series as a kid, so I forget all the names, etc. I do remember the Godlike Keynsianism, even if I only realized it was Keynsian ten years or so later…
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This must be the beginning of one of the cycles that Hari Seldon warned about and created the library for. ………maybe all those seeds in the ice up in Scandinavia are not such a bad idea………
It is true you know. Look at the Dark Ages which followed the collapse of the Roman empire and how long it took to build that base of thought and knowledge back. Roughly 1000 years from circa 450AD to the mid 1400’sAD. We have now had about 550-600 years of unparalleled growth for mankind. We are probably due for the plunge into darkness. Hone your manual labor skills children, you will need them to survive what is coming.
LOL. Do not despair. Change is coming! (chuckle)
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The library on Terminus is the internet. For now.
Exactly what are you trying to say? Obama lied? I thought that I glimpsed “The Fly” at the Rally for No Reason on Saturday? Who paid $5 mill for that thing? Not funny and not entertaining and not informative.
If we ever get campaign finance reform they will do better for the general public than they do now. Right now, Congress folks are simply legislation salespeople, auctioning off the legislation of one’s choice to the highest paying Special Interest Group. Weird that people think it makes a difference what political party one of these legislation salespeople belongs to. Like people don’t realize their stock broker is just a salesperson trying to sell them stocks to get commissions.
Yeah, that must explain why every single Republican Congressperson — in the House and the Senate — refused to vote for Obamacare.
Obviously, their auction reserve price was not hit.
Thanks for playing… Slope of Dopes is three doors down to the left. Fail.
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woah FTK gap up…? what happened?
I saw the same thing. I have seen no news, but who cares, its up to $2 in after hours. Fly is gonna be rich
Nothing more valueable than peace with god….yes satan will try steal it…..sometimes he win, and sometimes he loses. The fight is in keeping it. It’s called holding on to gods promises…That if we continue to run the race, in the end we will receive the crown of life. Hard to believe? it takes faith.
I came here to say, What is up with the $2.00 bids AH in FTK!?
WTF?
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A03EK20101101
Shell games!!!!
What a fucking joke
That bailout shit needs to end.
Meet the Fockers. They have ruined this country.
Just one more teensy eensy bailout? You know, so we can rob Peter to pay Paul?
Tomorrow, they are going to have to start paying Rand Paul. Maybe that’ll get us some real “change?”
I can only hope.
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the B-list bloggers are already learning their lesson about freedom.
Those people on TV think they know it all.
Politics in America is a tragic comedy. Clueless reps elected by clueless voters, politicians are but figureheads. Democracy was invented long ago to create an illusion, an effect that each monkey amongst the hoard would be certain his biased (and consequently illogical idiotic opinion) actually meant something. Just scroll through the tabs of history, each time one party gains tenure the other takes it back, its like one of those perpetual ball toys made out of dogshit. People who do care have no idea of the apathetic majority, terrible quality macrobrew and chicken wings for all.
That’s why I say you need 10 year presidential terms.
Tomorrow’s elections will shape America for generations to come
I call bullshit on this one. The election will shape America for all of about 2 weeks. After that these fuckers start running for re-election.
Congress folks have to raise an insane amount of money per day, to finance their re-election campaign. So we should not call them Senators and Reps. We should call them legislation salespeople. Because given the system we have now, they have to spend almost all their time doing that– selling Special Interest Groups the legislation that they would like passed in return for campaign donations. Why do people have the delusion that it matters what party the legislation salesperson belongs to?
See above response for the repeat brainless post.
Are you a bot?
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He’s got a point though. It’s too expensive to run for politics, and its too tempting to give in to the desires of wealthy campaign doners.
A great many malcontents see all kinds of bad shit in this country. Most of the complaints are accurate, others reflecting their authors’ own job descriptions, bullshit. If that’s all there is to say it’s a pity. WTF don’t you all find some constructive ideas for solutions and stir up a consensus? Otherwise, STFU, vote your bitch by not voting and stay home pissing and moaning and jerking off on everything that interferes with your Ivy League nightmares of unrealized ambition.
You need to write more clearly. I think I agree with you, but it’s all a muddle.
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Giants are World Series champs. 1954 was the last time they won it.
My uncles are very very pleased.
And my Grandpaw is smiling somewhere…
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My cousins are happy, too. They are getting a case of Tastycakes. We had a bet on the NLCS.
Giants win the world series bitchez!!
If you dont vote for sharon angle, terrorists will attack you.
More like, if you vote for Harry Reid, you are even dumber than the folks who voted for O’Bammy (like Chrissy Tingles, who’s seemed to have had a change of heart!
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Or dumber than the those who voted for JR…
Look all regulation is not bad… some of it is. Trying to fix the health care issue is something that needed to happen was this the best bill NO but a start…. MedaCare is looking at 70 trillion in liabilities as it sits .. WTF … No much talk about that shit on the old campaign trail..China and the rest of the world is starting to shake there heads and lock up the purse strings. This train has been heading for the cliff for a long time. Social Security , Defense and Medicare account for 80% of the budget.. Cali and New York are broke… If the Gubment dont doll out the cash. you will see the kind of revolution you speak of.. but you may not like the outcome..
2 wars and giant bailouts get you to this point… you can not argue the facts
The only chance is if by some fluke the economy starts to roll and we do grow our way out., but only if we can become a net exporter and we start to rebuild manufacturing… a tall pretty order, but a weak dollar helps that scenario..
All the fiscal choices are really unpopular if you want to be re elected…. cut spending on entitlements and raise taxes or you can try to cut taxes( trickle down) but the deficit will explode more, tough sell in the bond market… so print and push it off a few more years. Kick the Can its the American way.. so vote for you favorite can kicker.. it matters not to what party.
I agree with much of that. But I also beleive that reform is necessary, no matter how painful. That means Social Security has to be limited, and changed to an asset program, same with Medicare or any old-age insurance. These funds can no longer be honey-pot slush funds for politicians, but must be stand alone asset gathering fiduciary entities.
We will be forced to shrink gov’t and I don’t think anyone is going to like it, but without that, we will further slow our economy, and the jobs will never come back. I’m not worried about American ingenuity and your manufacturing worries. I think that if the American entreprenuer is released from his bonds, he/she will get this country growing again.
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Well said JG.
and frogs coming out of your eye, ants marching in your ear, slugs filling up your nose … Halloween forever!
That’s the Little witch girl… wrong coast.
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Fly,
If only in the name of balance, you got a get a proper lefty on your blogroll. I mean, there are plenty of them who know how to work the market and who won’t be constantly spreading noxious cultural disinformation. I mean, this country is stupid enough already thank you very much. And if balance doesn’t mean anything to you, as I suspect, then if only because you’re such a gentleman!
Spooks, why not push your communism yourself if you feel the opposition presents such inviting targets?
Who knows, if you survive the resulting onslaught of common sense and rational logic, Fly might even give YOU a blogging spot.
I admit it would be fun to have a leftist blogger, but you’ve seen Slope of Dopes, haven’t you?
We want smarter than that.
Give it a shot.
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Me a blogging spot. Now that’s funny. Nah, I already have a “blogging” spot in real life–quite a tiring one at that. I’m here to up my market game. Everything else, like your politics, is just noise. I usually ignore it, as you know. Once in a while I throw some type your way. I think you’re really good with PMs. You should stick to that and hang up the politics.
You see, I give credit where credit is due.
You need to learn about why my politics make sense, grow up and give up the hippy nonsense you cling to, but cannot legibly defend.
It’s basic common sense, supply and demand economics, that’s all. Trumps airy fairy anti-human nature Marxism every time.
Give up the brain washing. It’s tough, even in this country, but you’ll find it’s remarkably liberating.
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Where is he gonna find a Lefty? All traders seem to be libertarian and vote Repub, as if the Repubs are libertarian. Well, their words often are libertarian sounding. But like Dems, it’s their actions that are the problem.
Frogs, wake up. Spooks is a hard commie. He’s just not willing to pick up the sword.
You too are invited, but I insist you get more legible. Don’t start with the Prison Planet BS, though. It gets boring quickly.
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Ha! That’s very funny. But when you can’t argue, you call people names. So everyone who doesn’t agree with you is a commie. now, you’re an educated fella, Jake. What is the appropriate rhetorical term?
Jake, I thought you were a logical man. On the one hand, I’m a HARD commie; on the other hand, I’m not willing to pick up the SWORD. Hmm, what would herr doctor Freud have to say about your comments??
You’re making it too easy for me. You’ve got to up your game!
Yes, Spooks, your high school Freudian analysis has me pinioned. Oh, what shall I do.
Still awaiting your socialist treatise for appropriate skewering.
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So here’s a test for you: The supreme court voted that corporations are persons. What do you think? Are corporate conglomerates “persons”?
No, their speech is not limited because they are a corporation.
Quite a difference!
and dollars equal speech? How about garbage? Can I argue that my garbage equal an expression of my political person, and thus send it to Congress?
Come now.
What sort of idiocy is this? What are corporations made of? Garbage? Or people?
Get a clue, statist. Speech should not be limited in ANY sphere. What are you afraid of? It’s not like your kind doesn’t own every major broadcast network and newspaper.
You just don’t want to hear from the other side. You’ll take our taxes, but for the rest, we need to “sit in the back” right Prez’dunt O’bama?
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I certainly don’t own Fox. Or any media stocks for that matter.
Nor do I own the Tribune, Sam Zell’s paper. Please, don’t waste our breath arguing that the media is liberal. They’re dumb, but they’re not liberal. The State, whether you like it or not, is the only thing that stands between you and slavery.
The State IS slavery, you deluded fool.
Read history for once!
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Corporations are not persons. They are corporations. Votes are for individuals, who get the right at the age of 18. Do corporations have to wait till they’re 18 to give money recklessly. This supreme court decision adn the flood of corrupt money it has unleashed will be the death of this country. But that doesn’t seem to bother you. Freedom is possible when it doesn’t impact the freedom of others. Buying votes is essentially short-circuiting the electoral system. But hey, ain’t nothin’ new under the sun. American history is chock full of such blatant and criminal behavior.
First off, where does it say anything in the First Amendment about “persons?” It’s says “speech.” Generally, speech is not made by robots, or garbage, or dollars or dogs, but by people. Sometimes people even contribute to a group that will help them get their views heard. What difference does it make if that group is a PAC or a corporate entity? (In fact, most PACs ARE corporate entities!)
Furthermore, Mr. Arrogance, what do you know of “giving money recklessly?” Who are you to determine what speech is reckless and what is not? Do you mind that George Soros devotes a considerable part of his fortune to political speech? Is that okay w. you, just because he’s not an eeevul corporation? (In fact, he is).
I have news for you, this country was founded on the concept that everyone could have his/her say without impeachment by the government. The Founders thought that a lot of political speech is better than a limited amount.
Why not get all the arguments out there? I’ll tell you why not, because it threatens incumbents, who then pass laws that infringe on free speech to keep their seats.
Then they convince dimwits that there is “too much speech” and it needs to be closely cosseted to protect them.
Useful idiots, IOW.
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Poor argument … An elitist attitude to presume the founding fathers envisioned GE as a mouthpiece to support a war machine via election spending. Where does it say anything about institutions, businesses or corporations under freedom of speech?
First shot of the war… Let’s get readyyyy to ruuuummmmbbbbbbaaaaallllll!!!
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When did General Gint become a Senator?
Oh great, a day of rehashed sardonic political talk. Yawn. Happy holiday CW, RC and SC, see you on Wed.
Holiday? It’s a work day, ya lazy gob. At least get out and vote, for Christmas’ sakes.
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Holiday for CW, RC and SC from posting. They post regularly on blogs here, you should try it. You had better get to bed. Big day for you tomorrow Goldfinger. I challenge you to come up with one original comment.
FYI I am not a USC, so can’t vote. Will tell my wife to go out and vote GOP though.
One “original comment?” Please sir, to point out my numerous cliches? You wound me to the bone!
And stumping for Constitutional literacy is not “unoriginal” you foreign devil, it’s pedantic!
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I called someone pedantic once and they looked it up and asked if I meant the British or American translation.
What do the Brits mean by pedantic? I thought this one was the same no matter which side of the Pond.
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Fun fact of the day — by the end of this election, Jake will have written 374747372846 words in the various iBC comments sections.
Go US and A.
Damn straight son… Nothing get’s my “manic” going like an election.
Heck, I’ve even got some comments above “awaiting moderation,” lol!
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Midnight est or pst? RBA did raise rates…am a little surprised about that Govt.
To whom it may concern.
Telling a girl that she is a chubby version of Cameron Diaz will not get you laid.
Wisdom
A chubby Cameron Diaz sounds really hot!
I like when she was a bit chubbier in Jim Carrey’s “The Mask”.
A democracy only works at all if there is an independent media, and in the US that doesn’t exist any more. The media has been completely corrupted, either by ownership that treats the media as a personal mouthpiece, or by the fear of viewers boycotting advertisers if they don’t agree with you, or by the big money special interests buying up advertising to spread their half truths.
Money has completely corrupted the democratic process, and the tragedy is that so many soldiers have died to protect democracy but the politicians have been persuaded that the freedom to disrupt democracy is more important than democracy itself.
Politics suck, I only care about how the elections affect the stock market, if it wasn’t for that I could care less which party steals all the tax payer money.
You need to change that attitude, son. Look at how much damage the Dems have done already with their job-killing Byzantine legislation packages.
And yeah, that would affect the stock market.
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No worries, I’m voting Republican today. The truth is that most of these guys, Dems or GOP are all phony. They can give two shits about anything but getting to their next level (which I can’t really blame them, but I do anyway).
Wow, another moderation hold on my comment? I really wonder which words cause that to happen.
It’s a mystery. Just send an email to Jeremy and he’ll release it. I’ve had a couple held up for bizarre reasons as well.
It may have to do with how big this comment section has become.
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By the way, Jake. I do agree the DEMS are morons… I just don’t care for fashion in which we run elections… I mean, it basically comes down to how many slanderous things one can say about their opponent until the people believe it.
Digging up people’s pasts and trying to find anything to nail the other is just pointless, and these our the leaders???
I want a leader that stands up for what’s right and proves it with their own actions rather than how many negatives they can point out about the other.
I tend to believe that kind of nonsense only works with very tight races. If the groundswell is for more free markets, growth etc, the people are going to pay attention to the economy more than they are the bogus mud slinging.
Just my opinion, but I recognize your distaste. I think a lot of that slinging rebounds on the slinger.
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HPY may have some hidden value being discounted as it is within a niche that is on fire, but I’m still looking into it.
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