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Big Picture Perspective

You didn’t think I could forget about today or this week and get drunk like the rest of you losers, did you? I have nothing to celebrate.

I am not going to give opinions in this post. Instead, I will offer up some statistical facts, for your perusal, and to confuse you a little bit.

Man, the dollar sucks. It’s getting fucking killed right? Over the past two weeks it’s down 4.21%. Whoa, holy fucknuts. Wait a second, year to date it’s only down a whopping 0.48%. Hmmm.

Next.

Gold is this years winner, up 18.05%. Hey, do you want to know the only asset class that is outperforming gold, aside from silver (+26%)? How about TLT? BINGO. Correct. TLT is up 18.38%, ytd.

Copper? Nah, only up 5.5%.

Financials? Up 1.88%

Oil? I mean, with the dollar tanking to the tune of 0.48% this year, oil must be up huge. Nope. Down 14.99%, which is leagues better than natty—down more than 36%.

How about SPY? Well, it’s up 9.4% over the past month, the biggest gain in 71 years. However, for the year, I’m afraid it’s barely up 4%.

Material stocks? +3.9%.

Do you get my drift?

We might spring board higher and close out the year with spectacular gains or reverse lower and clown rape everyone, including David Tepper (if I see you at Short Hills mall, you’re catching a pizza slice to the mustache). But it’s important to take a step back sometimes, block out the noise, and see what is really working here. It’s easy to get caught up in emotionally charged, catalyst driven markets. But, if you take a look at things from a longer time frame, the true trend crystallizes. Is money really fleeing the dollar because of inflation fears? If that was the case, wouldn’t it be down more, ytd? Gold is awesome, but so is LQD, JNK and TLT.

Investors have been chasing yield. Maybe that will change. Perhaps the economy will rebound and banks will soar 50% from here. However, we already had the monster run in 2009. That was the easy money, just like 2003. To me, I view 2010 like 2004, the year after the big rally. During 2004 and 2005, we pretty much traded flat, as the market consolidated its gains. Looking at the year to date stats, and blocking out the last two weeks, that’s exactly what we have been doing.

Just a little late night perspective for you dick sucking ball jugglers.

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136 comments

  1. alf44

    I AM THE GOD OF HELL FIRE !!!

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  2. yoyo

    fig

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  3. Bearish

    Bearish is the Word!

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  4. Behold... The gulf oil Horseman
    Behold... The gulf oil Horseman

    Obviously, the Fly has been flown to Guantanimo for excessive interrogations and torture and an imposter has assumed the throne.

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  5. Bullish

    Some of us are drinking and working.

    All great points…

    Couldn’t you also view it as though the risk assets have been turned on for the second half of the year and perhaps it’s only getting started? I mean its been a parabolic second half thus far and we are up 4%??? I could see us talking 12 – 15% gains by year end with the whole recovery/QE2 scenario.

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    • The Fly

      of course. But then again you are only assuming that is the case. More often than not, following big month rallies, we retrace.

      It’s easy to forecast what might happen in two months. Hell, look at my 2010 predictions and tell me they are not space alien accurate

      http://ibankcoin.com/flyblog/category/predictions-for-2010/

      I am simply stating facts.

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      • Bullish

        I do expect some type of pullback… maybe take s&p down -2 ytd again sometime in oct only setting up for the mother of all rallies15% or so from there by year end.

        Your predictions were quite accurate

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        • The Fly

          The markets rarely go down in Nov. If it is going to pullback, it will be on Oct.

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          • chancethepug

            they said September is bad for stocks, too. i bet the farm Sep would suck, too.

            however, this is on track to be the best September in 71 years.

            $#!T

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          • Name

            and they rarely go up in September, too

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          • Po Pimp

            I am beginning to believe seasonality means absolutely jack shit. It worked great in May and June but otherwise has been craptacular.

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  6. duck

    Thanks for the perspective

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  7. alf44

    Shia LeBeouf was just on Letterman … apparently stickin’ to his claim that …

    …he ran $20K to $650K while preparing for his role in WS2 !!!

    Anybody buyin’ that ?

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  8. Fish Nuts

    Ever run out of gas just as you came up out of a dip, then just coasted along until your momentum gave out? It’s like that.

    All indexes up 3-5% YTD. Whoo-hoo.

    I predicted that oil would spend 2010 rangebound from $60-75. Actual so far: $68-87. Close enough.
    http://www.getreallist.com/energy-outlook-for-the-next-decade-part-2.html

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  9. Le Fly

    Yep

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  10. Teahouse On The Tracks
    Teahouse On The Tracks

    Fly … what about the Presidential cycle? We just bottomed in July (?) and they last more than a few months, no?

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  11. RaginCajun

    Well done sir.

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  12. Le Fly

    Teahouse

    Not sure. Find me some data.

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  13. Bman

    Silver. YESSSS!!! I bought a shitload of it a year and a half ago.

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  14. Bearearns

    Fly, your attitude has changed recently. I liked it a lot more when you were clown raping everyone etc with the aggressive talk. It is much more suited for a trader like oneself. I am looking forward to this in the future. I find myself net short over the weekend and yet I still think the market is going higher in next two weeks. Go figure. Have a good weekend Fly and I can’t wait for your excessive lovely remarks.

    No intended sarcasm in the above. Just my tipsy self unwilling to review grammar remarks. Do you plan any time soon to put up some companies to go under/get demolished ? Thanks

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    • Help Me

      Humility is never a bad thing.

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      • Bearearns

        I like FLY better when he is cocky and overly aggressive. As far as I am concerned… provided he is up for the year no humility is needed

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  15. Bullish

    What is going on with the site? I keep posting a link but i don’t see it??

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  16. Teahouse On The Tracks
    Teahouse On The Tracks

    If this posts, schroll down to May 24th

    http://caldaroew.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=amonth%3d5%26ayear%3d2010

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    • Teahouse On The Tracks
      Teahouse On The Tracks

      From Investopedia:

      “Historically the stock market typically tops out during the first year of a new presidents term before bottoming in year two. During Obama’s current term, the stock market topped out in April and the 52-week low was set in July. If the cycle works as it typically has in the past, the low will be set in 2010 and the average rally from that low to the high of the following year (2011) would be approximately 50%.”

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    • Teahouse On The Tracks
      Teahouse On The Tracks

      the market bottomed july 1 at SPX 1011 … He predicted 944 in May and missed it by 67 pts … pretty good work. If he’s right now, we rally into Jan 2011 to almost 1300.

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      • Vidya Karnam

        Teahouse:
        He also said that the market could bottom in either July or October in a Presidential Cycle. I would not rule out a 20% correction in Oct to 950. we’ll see

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  17. Teahouse On The Tracks
    Teahouse On The Tracks

    Fly … forget about macros (you taught me that) and consider a bull market cycle that is at it’s most powerful point coinciding with the presidential cycle … technically driven or helped along by gov’t fuckery but happening and not just here but globally … don’t miss a reply of the 09′ run especially another 50% because fundamentals haven’t confirmed yet.

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  18. No One

    Wall street 2 was a love story
    It sucked.
    Gecko’s speech was clearly edited out.

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  19. Le Fly

    Tea

    This post is all about price action. No fundies

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    • logicalthought

      I think the markets are now convinced that we will have a ZIRP environment “forever” (with the market defining “forever” as at least a year) and that the economy is muddling along just enough (1% to 1.5% growth) to allow 12-month forward corporate earnings to at least remain right where they currently are (say, $81 to $83 on a run-rate basis on the SPX), and thus– due to ZIRP– the market may now allow some multiple expansion. As an example, 15x $83 would bring the SPX to 1245, and 16x would bring it to 1328. “Normally”, of course, this would be nonsensical bullshit, as you don’t get multiple expansion in a flat-earnings environment with substantial risk to the downside, but yield-chasing ZIRP victims don’t “normally” exist, either.

      The downside risk, of course, is that earnings don’t just flatten out here, but actually retrench. This could happen if GDP dips negative, or if earnings start declining due to margin compression because a declining dollar raises input prices while the slow economy doesn’t any sell-through pricing power.

      I now see the upside risk (which is due to artificial, bullshit, future-of-America-destroying ZIRP) equally balanced with the downside risk (at least for now; eventually, the downside may win, but if the dollar is wrecked and it only wins in “real” terms, anyone short the market will get killed anyway, because the market is priced nominally).

      In light of this, I covered all of my shorts right after the close yesterday in order to preserve my YTD gains (+19.8%), and am now sitting on DUSA and a lot of cash. Believe me, in light of how fucked up our economy currently is, it PAINS me not to be short here (especially with the market short-term overbought) but I’m just no longer convinced that “being short” has my requisite 2:1 probability advantage over being long.

      The market is now free to crash.

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    • Teahouse On The Tracks
      Teahouse On The Tracks

      fundies?

      Looking at domestic stats doesn’t provide the rational for a bull market. Developed nations have short and long term problems economically but the emerging nations are providing the global growth to support our industrial complex and their component suppliers.

      So while multinationals are improving and spreading the wealth (slowly) the market continues to climb the wall of worry. The returns on stocks can and will be superior to bonds and anecdotal evidence suggests managers are slowly moving out of bonds into stocks.

      When banks succumb to an improving business climate and want/need better returns they will loosen their purse strings and the velocity of money will explode.

      CapEx demand by natural resource based countries and rising standards of living by those buying their wares will put more and more pressure on the need/demand for more electrical power, agricultural products and housing in those nations which in turn will fuel our domestic suppliers.

      The market has a time machine just as The Fly does and anticipates well ahead of fundamental statistics … wait for confirmation and be late to the party if you will.

      Our manufacturing base is mean and lean and any meaningful growth will provide a surge in profits like we’ve never witnessed before … think nifty fifties when you bought GM when the PE was 60 and sold it when the PE was 3.

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  20. bigdog

    2004 was the 2nd year of a 6 year (credit) bull market. We just had one of the best September’s ever for credit with new issuance getting gobbled up. There isn’t enough yield out there for pension funds/endowments to make their 8%/yr to fund liabilities. Perhaps that is why the underlying bonds don’t flinch anymore when the idiot hedge funds start pushing CDS’s wider. In theory, it should be like put/call parity but its not. How can CDS’s blow out on US gov’t debt buy yieldsdrop? The markets have become fucked up casinos where momentum (macro) rules. The best risk/reward is only possible if you run billions and can take advantge of the arb between the fucked up CDS market and credit/equity mkts. And while I’m at it, yes, deflation will ultimately prevail, but how many folks went out of biz running money betting on the housing colapse in 2006? We are too early on in a new credit cycle for deflation to stick. Period. Fly is still the best mkt timer I’ve seen and its ok to miss a zig or zag. I’ve been impressed with how little money Fly actually risked/lost expressing his opinion. But the rules/trend has changed, how quickly can we figure out the new game…I know i haven’t (yet).

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  21. Damon

    Dear Mr. Fly,

    Honestly, I was going the same way as you (trading) on the market short reversal.

    Your open opinions, (although slightly off timed) will be vindicated, my dear Fly friend.

    We are looking at a ten-year recovery, if we here in America make it at all.

    They say those those jobs are going boy, and they ain’t coming back….(to quote Bruce Springsteen)

    It is so ugly up here in my neck of the woods, I would advise splitting wood and shooting a few deer to make it in the near-term future.

    God bless Obama-Mamma!

    He gave me a tremendous amount of HOPE………and CHANGE.

    I say gold=UP
    Dow=Down
    U.S, Dollar=Turd Roller

    It’s just a matter of time.

    -Damon

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  22. Trading_Nymph

    ahhhhhhhh…..You forgot someone, look at the Shanghai Comp for this year. Let me get this right, China is why we are doing so well. Funny they led the way in 2008 and 2009….so why should we think it should be different?

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    • Trading_Nymph

      You know China Govt has been like gossipy little girls on how they are going to have a new Property tax come out before Oct 1 holiday….again, they are trying to slow things down, while US thinks everything will go faster….totally doesn’t make sense to me at all?

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  23. heftysac

    aaahhhh…..nice to see mr.fly spit out that humble pie. This farce wholly dependent on the treasonists goal to devalue dollars.

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  24. Behold... The gulf oil Horseman
    Behold... The gulf oil Horseman

    Damn, the U.S. is becoming increasingly isolated on the world stage. This is not going to be good at all.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnPZ73gCAiw&feature=related

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    • JakeGint

      Is this Purdy’s new nomme du blog?

      __________

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      • DMG

        LOL – my thoughts exactly…

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      • Behold... The gulf oil Horseman
        Behold... The gulf oil Horseman

        No. this isn’t Purdy. This situation is pretty bad though, no?

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        • JakeGint

          You’re worried about what AhmgonnasmokeaJay has to say?

          Perhaps you need a distracting hobby?

          _________

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          • Behold... The gulf oil Horseman
            Behold... The gulf oil Horseman

            Perhaps. Complacency and being unaware does seem to be the flavor being promoted for the last decade. We have a very messy situation on our hands here. Hopefully our children and grandchildren won’t be held accountable for it.

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          • JakeGint

            What is the situation? Do you think we lit up the Towers too?

            __________

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          • go2mars

            Not sure I’d go that far, but there are definately some inconsistencies in the official story. Lobby explosion, white smoke from the base before 747 (thermite), massively overheated rubble, 3rd building collapse, the fact that in 2001 fighter jets turned 67 aircraft out of their airspace, then on Sept 11, over 30 fighter jets (every single one of them) were all sent on 18 separate “training missions” instead of protecting the pentagon… Those are the high-lights of the “inconsistencies” as I’ve seen them.

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          • go2mars

            should say turned away 67 aircraft from restricted pentagon airspace.

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  25. JuiceyFruit

    Correuction, the SPX is up 3%, not 4, Monsieur Docteur Le FLy.

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  26. heftysac

    http://indexq.org/wide.php <—ytd returns on every asset class on the planet

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  27. Carsaloni

    Money never sleeps was very good. Good acting. Gecko i think wanted to finish with showing a humanistic side to himself, and be loved, not just admired by the want to be’s. Lets face it, if were losing any money here, it’s probably because we made a greedy decision that put us there. My loses have come with no one to blame but myself. I may lose, but will win again..the important thing for me is that if i lose, i have to come back better than i was before to win. However many times that may take. “quiters never win, and winners never quit” we just keep getting stronger.

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  28. Yogi & Boo Boo

    Nice summary Dr. Fly. I’d love a trending market (up or down) to finish out the year with a grand slam. Hitting singles and doubles with the PPT hasn’t been so bad though. A couple of strikeouts lately, but it not so bad when the score is 40 to 4 (or 3). I’ll take that win any day.

    I’m looking forward to the PPT enhancements.

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  29. Yabollox

    The Fed has been printing up tons of dollars, trying to get the economy moving. But people and companies have just locked the $ up in their vaults. There is no circulation. Once the money comes out and people start spending and investing the circulation will begin. Then velocity will be like a big stone rolling down a muddy hill. The inflation is easy to theorize. But it ain’t happening yet.

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  30. discoordinated

    I am short OXY in response to this and othe musings. I am not really committed to it or any other trade though.

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  31. flyaway18

    I think I will proceed cautiously and protect gains
    until the employment numbers come out on Oct.4.
    Just keeping it simple.

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  32. ruggyup

    An investing reminder, older than dirt > Some paraprosdokians not only change the meaning of an early phrase, but also play on the double meaning,creating a syllepsis. Thus, Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
    I’m just say’n.

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  33. TurdinthePunchBowl

    Fly said: “How about SPY? Well, it’s up 9.4% over the past month, the biggest gain in 71 years.”

    Not to question you, but here are the percent returns of a few months:

    October 74 – 16.3
    January 75 – 12.3
    January 76 – 11.8

    This was preceded by a 33% decline and followed a 10% decline over the next year.

    August 82 – 11.6
    October 82 – 11.04

    This was preceded by a 33% decline and followed by another 30% rally over the next 5 months

    January 87 – 13.1

    This was 2 months before the 87 crash

    March 2000 – 9.7

    This marked to top of the market.

    In my opinion, our situation is most comparable to the early 70s in which the market will be flat/down over the course of the next year.

    —-

    I should note that this month does mark the largest gain, currently 100 points since that March 2000 top (120 pts).

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  34. DrowningintheMainStream
    DrowningintheMainStream

    And that great September, 71 years ago, was the month Hitler invaded Poland.

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    • Teahouse On The Tracks
      Teahouse On The Tracks

      “and if Swartzman were there, he’d have more to worry about than his tax rate” < Bill Maher

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  35. Trader

    Fly, great observation… Maybe dollar’s fortune is about to turn?

    http://www.tradersnarrative.com/dollar-at-extreme-low-sentiment-euro-euphoria-4760.html

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    • schneidehouse

      I agree …. the dollar will turn in no more than 2-3 days, and possibly Sunday night.

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    • cebu sun

      I’m guessing the usd pivots here mid week. Not forgetting the negative corr w spx is a strong but imperfect approx .75

      If we look at spx Chart weekly from 07: the top part of wedge with points at Oct 07, Apr ‘2010, and now. Bottom part pf wedge begins march ’09. We are at the apex of a multiyear drama being played out this month. We are due for the mother of all brerakouts.

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  36. needle dick the bug fucker
    needle dick the bug fucker

    Taking a step back and a cleansing breath, looking at the forest through the trees. Fundamentals do matter.

    Fly, good post.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od8cUvPyvsg

    Good Marshall Tucker…

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  37. Helicopter Ben-jammin aka Bearded Clamfucker
    Helicopter Ben-jammin aka Bearded Clamfucker

    Tepper is 100% correct!

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/39341388

    The stock market is uni-directional, it can only go UP!… The Bearded Clamfucker deems it so. Do not fight the Bearded Clamfucker as he will make sure that assets will NEVER be allowed to go down in our lifetimes. Moral Hazard be damned. 100% gains must be handed out to Billionaire speculators like Tepper with guarantee of no risk of loss with the US Taxpayers footing the bill for the put. Isn’t Obama style Banana Republic crony capitalism a wonderful thing?

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    • J

      Tepper never said that at all. He thinks on balance it will go up, but he’s not betting the ranch. Cocky fucker for a bald dude though.

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  38. Helicopter Ben-jammin aka Bearded Clamfucker
    Helicopter Ben-jammin aka Bearded Clamfucker

    worldwide currency devaluation race to zero…

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/stocks-riding-on-flood-of-liquidity-risk-back-on-2010-09-25?siteid=rss

    Buy Gold, Silver, Copper, pretty much any commodity and momo stocks. We are in parabolic melt-up bubble mode!

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  39. Septic Tanker

    This should be IBC’s new theme song…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcbNpf5ssaE

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  40. The_Real_Hmmm

    All of the following are returns since QE 1 began, around March 19, 2009:

    TLT is almost exactly where it was.
    LQD +25%.
    JNK +54%.
    Gold +46%.
    Silver +80%.
    Dollar -10% (in June it was breakeven).
    Non-seasonally adjusted CPI-U using 1982 as par is +2.6% since March 2009. YTD CPI-U is +0.75%.

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  41. Le Fly

    Real hmmm

    That is ridiculous. The market was too cheap back then

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    • The_Real_Hmmm

      True, but that was when a major monetary policy change took place when you look at the market on a continuous timeline. You can place your starting point anywhere to assess returns on a relative perspective but it’s merely a construct of the flow of capital based upon momentum or value given a specific event or relegated market participant performance metric like a calendar date such as January 1, XXXX.

      I’m just saying it’s interesting that TLT has changed little on an absolute basis while riskier assets have flourished and inflation has been tepid.

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  42. Le Fly

    Tepper can suck my cock.

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  43. Bullish

    I just saw Wall St 2… If you didn’t think it was a great movie, there’s something wrong with you. More importantly you probably shouldn’t be investing.

    It’s the new classic for the younger generation.

    I’ll wait for the all clear from Fly before discussing spoilers.

    Go see it!

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    • baron kurtz

      “It’s the new classic for the younger generation.”..
      and don’t forget to add these to your library of musts…
      The Adventures of Pluto Nash
      Battlefield Earth
      Judge Dread

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      • JakeGint

        LOL.

        “Heavens Gate.”

        __________

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      • Bullish

        Clearly you have not seen the movie nor did you have any meaningful participation during the crisis of ’08.

        Only people who truely lived it will appreciate it. Living in your mom’s basement trading her 10k ira doesn’t count either.

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    • Scarface

      I saw the movie – been thru the 2008 fuck story and also 1987 crash – barely started investing back then. Saw wall St the original in nyc with one of the ho’s i was nailing back in the 80s, ah the mammaries. This is not a “Great” movie. It’s good…not bad for a sequel…but (to use a baseball analogy) it’s like scoring a run with a sacrifice fly in the middle innings.

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  44. Bearish

    Did anyone buy TZA on Friday?
    October will probably give back all of September’s gains!
    Does anyone really think that today’s current market valuation is worth only 23% below all time highs?
    Bullshit!
    Not Bullish!
    Bullshit!
    And therefore Bearish!

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  45. Woodshedder

    Great post.

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  46. Carsaloni

    We learned in our business too, all the stimulas that has been thrown out there, seasonality may not matter. It has changed the cycle of how things have historically ran. A lot of hope and hard work will get us through. Goodnite gents!

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  47. baron kurtz

    you actually went to see scrotum sagging Douglas in a theater? Check your underwear for bedbugs, man!

    I read the script. Typical bad Stone screedster shit. I can only imagine how bad the directing is. (See JFK) And who the fuck is Shia LeBoeuf? Sounds like an overthought entree off the gay food network.

    If you have any desire to see the fascinating madcap world of Wall Street, go rent Boiler Room.
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    • The_Last_Puma_Punkanite
      The_Last_Puma_Punkanite

      Birth Name: Shia “Shaide” Labeouf.<—French for Beef…?…ok…that would make him "Shady Beef"

      But wait… "Shia" was Hebrew for Praise God and his last name "LaBeouf" was French for Beef, hence the phrase "Praise God for Beef" …

      Pronounced "Shy-ah"?
      or
      "She-ya"..<–Ugandan word for Jerky

      Hmm,
      Ok…Beef Jerky…at last another mystery solved

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  48. No One

    Boiler room has one of the the worst script/dialogs ever written.

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  49. Le Fly

    Boiler room was horrible. That was bottom of the barrel shit. Wall st was great

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  50. fig

    LT1 on another website is just plain stealing Fly’s prose, calling people there goat fuckers and dick sucking ball juggler. Not cool.

    https://www.networthiq.com/people/gandlaf77/questions/if-you-had-40k-to-investwhat-would-you-do

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    • Teahouse On The Tracks
      Teahouse On The Tracks

      Fly? Is that you?

      > If you think what he’s doing is mimicking me in any meaningful way you’re even dumber than I’ve peg you for. Perhaps you should do what you do best and go fuck your new found boyfriend you simple low life 5 figure cubicle dwelling parasite.

      And for anyone who wishes to imatate me, good luck. First you need more than a 2 digit IQ and single digit annual returns I’ll let you know. On top of that you need to actually be man enough to run your life instead of being a slave to the master. And don’t even get me started on those silly ass spread sheets you gay goat fuckers talk about. How your wives put up with such pussified begavior is beyond me. Perhaps being fat and ugly leaves them no choice I guess.

      Btw, anyone capitalize on my brilliant call for sept? Nah, I didn’t think so. Want to know what my next magically move is? Fuck you! You’re not worthy of such knowledge and insight. Just go calculate where you’ll be in 30 years knowing I’m already there and your chances of arriving are slim at best piker boy.
      Posted by: LT1 <

      Nah … too many spelling errors … a wannabe

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      • JakeGint

        Wow, that is some weak, weak shit.

        Well, imitation is the greatest form of flattery I guess… even shitty imitation.

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  51. C_Farley

    Hey FLY,

    You don’t really believe that Shia LeDouche turned $20,000 into $650,000…..that would be 3,150% and in what like less than a year……….I’m calling his statement about that some kind of PR marketing hype to get people excited about the movie. Or he meant he turned $20,000 into $650…..LOL

    I mean really is some guy that never traded before going to come in right out of the gate and out-perform such a Distinguished Gentleman as yourself that has managed to produce somewhere in the neighborhood of 300% on your riskier personal endevor portfolio and he is claiming over 3,000%……….Like I said I call Bullshit on that one!

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  52. JakeGint

    From Morning in America to Mourning in America in 30 easy easy years.

    It all runs in cycles, thank the gods, Norse and Roman.

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  53. ruggyup

    Jake, are you ignoring Celtic? They can be as devious as any, but never without a drink!

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    • JakeGint

      Not ignoring, just forgot ’em. They fit in between the two, I guess, as far as the history of Great Britain goes.

      Just reading something on the Druids, in fact.

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  54. Le Fly

    J

    Thats what 13 bill aum does for you

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  55. Le Fly

    Jake

    How do you like the beatdown my titans are putting on your lil men?

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    • Teahouse On The Tracks
      Teahouse On The Tracks

      Eggsellent …. How many INT’s by Elly?

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      • JakeGint

        Not Eli’s fault this time. They killed themselves today w. crucial fumbles, really bad, bad stupid penalties (OT Kareem McKenzie had TWO personal foul calls!) and some really sloppy play.

        Time for Coughlin to GTFO… he’s overstayed his welcome and lost control of this team.

        The Titties have a great RB and one of the most exciting QB’s in the league, but little else. Giants drove the Phillips-head screwdriver into their own eyes.

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  56. Scarface

    i agree with Fly’s assessment of the movie…Stone was close but missed a chance for crazy greatness here ala “JFK.” I think this is because of the plot’s fixation on Gekko’s relationship w/ his barely-stable haggus of a daughter. The entire world has gone soft. Sigh. And what about the crazy old guy Bankster making those whistling noises? WTF was that about. Another thing I don’t get – without being a plot spoiler – is Gekko’s behavior in the last half our or so of the movie. Just this side of a Deus Ex Machina. Overall not a bad flick but a bit to much glitz and not quite enough bite..

    We did get to see a lot of CNBC-personality cameos. Meh.

    GeeeMen are in trouble – losing at home to the Tennessee Gomer Pyles. Ugh…

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  57. Dr Fly

    I liked the old dude, with his crazy whistles, ESPECIALLY at the Fed Reserve. That was funny as shit.

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    • HawaiiFive0

      That’s Eli Wallach!

      One of the best method actors ever. I’ve watched him in movies since the ’50s.
      He’s been in everything. And I’m glad they brought him in to play a character his real age as opposed to using make up on a younger guy.

      Mrs. HawaiiFive0, who grew up in Long Island, NY said that Susan Sarandon’s Lon Gliland accent really sucked.

      Finally, in general, I thought that the movie needed more face time with Gordon Gecko, as his character really made the first Wall Street what it was.

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  58. Carsaloni

    Ya the old guy’s whistle was a trip.

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  59. Teahouse On The Tracks
    Teahouse On The Tracks

    Some prognosticating by Tony ….

    http://caldaroew.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D2CB8C5EBA2ADE86!84141.entry#comment

    A nice woody for Bullish and the longs then prepare to put on your bear suit early 2012.

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  60. Slim Shady With A Nose Bleed
    Slim Shady With A Nose Bleed

    One thing is for sure, the world is full of critics.

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  61. The_Real_Hmmm

    Just saw WS2 and thought it was solid, but it reflects the current state of cinema these days; nobody can write a totally unique story anymore. I don’t need a history lesson of the financial crisis, rather I think they should have built more of a story around Bretton and the oil craze, not the other bullshit. Pretty decent movie overall, but lacked the cleverness and wit of the first. Loved the throwbacks to the first one and parallels to reality throughout. Bird whistling guy fucking ruled too.

    Anyone else notice how horrible every movie preview was prior to the feature too? Christ, short the studios.

    Fuck all that noise though. Tonight, Shelby County’s own Kenny Powers is BACK!!!! (That’s right Fly, 4. Insane.)

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  62. Toto

    Blind leading the the blind lmao all of you bearshiters are fucked. Prepare to be demolished this week because I said so.

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  63. Ted Reiner

    Please visit my [url=http://profesjonalne01.projektowanie-www.info/url=341]site.[/url]

    Regards

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