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Microvision Eviscerating the Sellers

Only the stock Gods know how frustrated “The Fly” is with [[MVIS]].

I’ve been patiently holding a ridiculous amount of stock, while holding in countless others, waiting for the story to pan out.

For more than a year, I’ve been told: “MVIS is going to be double digits. They will change the way people use their handheld devices.” Yet, I sit here looking at my stupid monitor, and the stock is mid 4’s.

For the most part, the CFO of MVIS, Jeff Wilson, torpedoed the investor confidence CEO Alex Tokman had rebuilt for more than a year—by selling a bullshit 40,000 shares @ $4.70.

In hindsight, selling at $4.70 was a good idea.

Fuck you very much Jeff Wilson.

Now what?

Well, this is the year the proverbial ball starts rolling for the company. If everything stays on track, the company should start selling Picop products during Christmas of ’08. If so, there is no way the stock remains in the 4’s.

Conservatively, using the numbers projected by several analysts, the stock should be trading, at a minimum, $8—without a major ramp. Once MVIS gets their paws into [[MOT]] or Samsung cellphones, I suspect the stock will trade north of $15.

However, keep in mind, all of this depends on the company (through proxy) being able to mass produce green lasers, which could be very expensive. That’s the kicker.

Before I make any big decisions, I want to see the progress of their R&D, displayed at CES. I know a few people who will be inside the MVIS presentation. I’ll be sure to pass along some of their notes.

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62 comments

  1. phatfriday

    the CFO sells 40K shares (probably to buy a house or put a kid through college) and that’s a death blow? No way. Investor confidence is lagging due to the fucking lengthy ramp up (with little in the way of news.) Stock price is more likely hinged to investor impatience… ten years of R&D! You can only bang the ketchup bottle so many times before you get the knife. I think patience though is soon to pay off… mass-produced green lasers will happen. (the laser is going to be the engine for a great many things for years to come.) I’m with you fly… sizable investment, fucktarded trading bullshit. But I do think by the end of this year, we finally will hit double digits… if not sooner. In the meantime, have a lengthy blunt and cruise through brooklyn slowly in your el camino.

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  2. Fucktard

    I read their news release today and my take is they don’t know their business very well or think investors like promotional vaguely worded smoke being blown up their ass. Warms the cockles of my heart/colon really. I don’t give a flying fuck (as opposed to regular fuck) if they signed another “OEM” deal. What does that mean to the business? Lots of companies get OEM deals that amount to nothing unless it is well defined up front. Wow another worthless piece of contractual paper used to promote a stock and not place a realistic value on the company.

    They need to be able to communicate the value of the agreement or why buy the stock. I agree the technology looks very cool even groundbreaking (for now), but if you can’t quantify the impact it is likely worth fuck all. What does it mean in terms of dollars even potential dollars (USD$1 – USD$999B)??? Dumb Shits!!!

    I would buy if I thought there was value in this, but can’t tell. Based on the reaction of the stock (or lack thereof) I think it is overpriced.

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  3. gappingandyapping
    gappingandyapping

    Personally I think Jeff is a worthless piece of ass plunging faggotry. But hey thats my opinion. And I am serious, he is a homo.

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  4. Fucktard

    personal experience?

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  5. Double Secret OEM
    Double Secret OEM

    gap
    Funny, but you think that about everyone, no?

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  6. phatfriday

    oh and agreed on the lame press releases that use words like ‘evaluate’ and ‘develop’. show us some fundamentals please, Mr. Tokman. We get that the product is disruptive… now go out and make us some fucking money with it.

    After this much patience we should be able to give birth to a teenager.

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  7. alphadawgg

    Denigrating MVIS management is acceptable behavior on this blog, no?

    Fly, I hope you are right on your price estimates, as I stand to bank enough coin to be able to support a harem in my own sheikdom.

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  8. Walt Disney

    OK….Who is the ‘tard with 50k MVIS shares offered at $4.39?

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  9. phatfriday

    denigrating management is the national pastime.
    be an american… go tell your boss to fuck off.

    since i am my own boss… fuck me.

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  10. alphadawgg

    phat
    Careful…that might be construed as an open invitation to the members of the “gay coalition” who read this blog.

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  11. ottnott

    Producing the green lasers is only part of the battle.

    I’m worried more about the acceptability of the picture quality and brightness. Everyone likes smaller, lighter, and lower power consumption, but display quality has to be “good enough”.

    Bearing in mind that I’m no cellphone power user (I’ve been using one with a broken screen for the past 10 months), I don’t see the pico projecter going into a cellphone in the next decade, if ever, with the possible exception of a blocky pda/wifi/phone device for the people who like to have everything in one unit.

    If bluetooth has the bandwidth for the video signal, it makes far more sense to keep the projector standalone.

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  12. Fucktard

    Competent management don’t get denigrated. Go back to sucking off your boss you cum eating sycophant and use spell check!!!

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  13. Pudfucker

    Has management figured out a way to stop the decline in the growth rate in 2015?

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  14. Sven

    I imagine the only ones that truly believe in MVIS are the ones who understand the true capability of the technology (Tokman included).

    I’ve waited 6 years for the color eyewear to develop and while I think the projector will be wildly popular it is not how MVIS will make a name for itself.

    Read this post from 4 years ago and tell me MVIS won’t make this happen. 2009 might be a bit optimistic but most of the technology they already have (will we see this ‘soon’??).

    http://microvision.blogspot.com/2004/11/ray-kurzweil-microvision-in-2009.html

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  15. alphadawgg

    Gap and fucktard have the same style.

    Both are from a sullied background, lacking in importance or value.

    No offense. Just an observation.

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  16. TraderCaddy

    Fucktard-Cold in Iowa?

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  17. not ott

    ott
    You have some great insights, but it seems you may be waaay off on this one about pico in cellphone in 10 yrs.
    imo life will b unrecognizable in 10 yrs due to tech.

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  18. phatfriday

    So if i am competent i will get sucked off?
    Fuck share price. Blow me. (as american as apple pie and being denigrated)

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  19. Chief_Rottingtooth
    Chief_Rottingtooth

    I find it very comforting to know that fly has/drives an El Camino……very….stylish, indeed…..give MVIS some credit….they tried as hard as they could for years to go out of business…at one time even eliciting the help of Gorgeous George Gilder, an expert at snatching defeat out of the jaws of Victory….looks like current management is begrudginly giving up to some kind of “success”…

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  20. Fucktard

    Sorry you were offended Princess. Never been to Iowa. Go for coffee and keep guessing.

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  21. phatfriday

    Sven…
    “By 2009, computers will disappear.”

    yes… stolen by monkeys who live in the asses of management.

    if i am not being denigrated by 2009, i will be a failure.

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  22. JakeGint

    Where is Yoda? I need to have my midachlorians checked for “the Dark Side.”

    Strong within me, it is.

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  23. phatfriday

    i expect a shitload of selling now when MVIS hits 4.70 again, fly.
    go back in your time machine and fix that please.

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  24. TraderCaddy

    This can’t be the real Fuckatard because he wouldn’t leave his cash cow Hillary alone in Iowa.

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  25. BOOMER

    Jus BOT 5k BOOM. Setting up good for tomorrow. $64 in the AM I bet.

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  26. The Fucktarded Fucktard
    The Fucktarded Fucktard

    No I’m not. Didn’t know someone else was using the moniker. Will change that.

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  27. TraderCaddy

    Fucktard No. 1 hasn’t posted for a couple of months. He said he was a Hillary campaign worker. Very Fucktarded.

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  28. BOOMER

    V E R Y

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  29. BOOMER

    Here’s a crazy thought:

    Obama wins Iowa. Stocks go up tomorrow.

    Why? He’s not electable.

    Romney’s in.

    Jus a thought.

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  30. JakeGint

    You want to have some “fun w. charts” take a look at the ten year monthly MON chart, and check out the slow stochastic starting in about April of ’03…

    With very few, and very brief exceptions, it’s been over 80 to this date.

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  31. JakeGint

    You think Frau Hitlery will give up with a loss in Iowa?

    More likely she’ll have poor Obama accidentally “wander onto an interstate” or something equally tragic.

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  32. TraderCaddy

    The funny thing is that I don’t believe any of them are electable. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the US Supreme Court decide things again.

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  33. big snacks

    are all of you humps long this POS? good times

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  34. ottnott

    not ott wrote:
    it seems you may be waaay off on this one about pico in cellphone in 10 yrs.
    imo life will b unrecognizable in 10 yrs due to tech.

    Tech changes very fast. People’s behavior changes slower. People’s bodies change verrry slowly (excluding the increase in mass over time).

    A cell phone is a crappy projector platform, and the changes you’d have to make to it to improve it as a projector platform make it less useful as a cell phone.

    I’m not speculating about what is technically achievable, but, rather, what will be attractive enough to enough people to be a viable product. I don’t happen to think that a cellphone-embedded projector is a winner compared to alternative ways of delivering the projector capability.

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  35. Yoda

    To all, a warning: Short nor sell not MVIS. A winning stock shall it become. Blind we are, if the creation of the PicoP, it’s utility we cannot see.

    Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will. Failure of coin to bank, your demise shall be.

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  36. phatfriday

    Yoda:
    stick with chart analysis you little green fuck. and english.

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  37. Chief_Rottingtooth
    Chief_Rottingtooth

    …..let’s cut to the chase…in order to find out if this damn Picop “personal projector” is worth a shit, I’m going to call some friends who work in the….uhhhh…….porn industry (meteoric growth industry that it is) in California….they try to stay on top of technology that will benefit their form of…uhh…”entertainment”…..

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  38. BOOMER

    GHM sells to the same industries as BOOM. It is rocketing today.

    GHM’s COO offered a decent amount of commentary regarding a contract announcement GHM released… it was not only positive for GHM but also for BOOM.

    “We believe worldwide spending in the oil refining sector continues at an unprecedented pace, and we are benefiting from particularly strong capital expenditures in the domestic oil refining market. Approximately 45% of the third quarter bookings were from the oil refining sector, largely from the domestic market. The lasting demand for our products and the market fundamentals lead us to believe that this cycle can be sustained through 2010 and perhaps beyond.”

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  39. JakeGint

    That’s true… they say the porn guys were the ones who got the streaming technology companies cash flowing so it’d be cheap for the rest of us…

    to watch pron.

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  40. JakeGint

    The GHM COO concluded:

    “And what’s more, we’re not manipulating our earnings like those freaking weasels over at BOOM!”

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  41. Yoda

    Phat:
    Yourself, go fuck.

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  42. JakeGint

    Yoda, props you must give me for putting on the red and black makeup, horns and yellow cat eyes with this one:

    I don’t expect the Cubes to get much past $50.65 today, and if they get there and bounce lower, I’ll be shorting there again.

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  43. phatfriday

    NUAN looks cheap here, right?

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  44. alphadawgg

    BOOMER
    Does BOOM do business with the LNG industry? What percent (if any)?

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  45. kd

    fly,
    how do you feel about mvis now? Do you still feel iffy or are you back on the strong side?
    Thanks.

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  46. Yoda

    Jake of Gint:
    Agree I do with short of cubes. Short that sucker like a furry Ewok.

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  47. Yoda

    Fly,
    How feel you about MVIS going into CES? Sell positions earlier had you said might you do. A hold long-term MVIS now is?

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  48. Mr. LIMM's Yoda

    Stlong da Foace is in you!

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  49. BOOMER

    That’s not funny, Jake.

    Alpha – signifcant LNG biz, but it no more or less weighted than refining, etc. Its a pretty even distribution:

    Clad Metal Industries Served
    # Chemical Processing
    # Petroleum Refining
    # Hydrometallurgy
    # Aluminum Smelting
    # Shipbuilding
    # Electrochemical
    # Oil & Gas
    # Power Generation
    # Cryogenic Processing
    # Pulp & Paper
    # Airconditioning & Chillers
    # Metal Production

    I’ve taken a risk today by going back in — accumulating 10k shares ~$61.50. Just a gut instinct.

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  50. ottnott

    Boomer –

    That comment from the GHM COO about the spending cycle is quite a bit more optimistic than what GHM was saying earlier this year. I believe that they were talking about the cycle extending 18-24 months, which would have been through end-2008 to mid-2009 at the time.

    Now he’s talking about another 36 months from this point.

    My take is that the previous 18-24 months guidance was very solid and there has been improvement from that point, but going out 36 months from today is venturing beyond the solid point into speculative territory.

    I’d been holding $13.60 shares of GHM for some time before selling at $40 earlier this year – just a few weeks before GHM began rocketing up to the $70s. I’d buy again at the current level.

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  51. alphadawgg

    Boomer,
    I like the diversity of business segmentation.

    That bounce each time at the 50 day appears to be reliable and bankable, no?

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  52. Wang Hung Lo's Yoda
    Wang Hung Lo's Yoda

    LIMM Yoda, you collect on dat. Foace stlong wit Yoda is!

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  53. BOOMER

    Dynamic Materials’ CEO had similar commentary about demand in the energy space. I think the S&P analyst, Tortelli, or something, even questioned him… something like…”so you think demand is strong for the foreseeable future? what about an economic downturn?” “demand is robust, across all segments, into ’09 with no signs of letting up” was the reply. The transcript is available on line. I just dont have time to find it.

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  54. BOOMER

    I am a little confused, alpha. I would normally say yes. I traded today like I believe it.

    I have such a bearish disposition on the markets right now I am having trouble seeing the long opportunity in anything, so I am double minded.

    That said, I put $610k to work in BOOM today. Dance with the one who brung ya, I suppose.

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  55. ottnott

    I don’t know who decided to drive down ^DJUSRI today, but, as a holder of SRS and SRS Jan calls, I’ve got a crocodile grin on my face.

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  56. alphadawgg

    “a double minded man is unstable in all his ways”; best you get out of that mode, my friend.

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  57. ottnott

    For $610k, I’d look for more than a dance.

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  58. BOOMER

    Alpha – James 1:8. We know the Word down here in TN. We put it in our biscuits like fortune cookies. Kidding.

    I think of more as a battle against fear and greed. No fear. No greed. Find the groove. I am pinging bewteen the two. However, I can also say:

    I Tim 6

    6But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. 8But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. 9People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. 10For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

    It’s a complex walk, balancing these things…

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  59. alphadawgg

    Wise words.

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  60. Chief_Rottingtooth
    Chief_Rottingtooth

    ….uhhhh…….looks like MVIS has some big competition from MMM……press release hier on Friday morning…

    3M Revolutionizes Mobile Displays

    http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/CMPAGlobalNewsCtr/pressroom/news/browseprs/

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  61. The Fucktarded Fucktard
    The Fucktarded Fucktard

    Good one Chief! Though I don’t think anyone can say it is a big fucking surprise! Yet another innovator that missed the boat and market. Shows why management really needs to be on the ball. Opportunities wait for no man!!!

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  62. Chief_Rottingtooth
    Chief_Rottingtooth

    ….ja, FF…Ich habe……shit…..I have to talk to someone who can physically get to CES…hopefully the MMM product’s optics requires focus…if it does, then fuck it…but they say it is available now….some Germans have a similar product, also, but fuck them and the U-Boat they rode in on…..I need to find Tokeman’s physician’s nurse clinician….to find out what meds Tokeman is taking…..this will reveal all….Heute habe ich kein Zeit….Bis Bald…

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