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So You Want to Trade Options

February expiration is almost in the books and it can’t come soon enough. For the love of time decay, this has been my worst monthly expiration cycle since 2011.

I started off the year on pace to set personal records. By mid Jan I was up nearly 25%, with positions on in stocks that were going to rip out the gates this year. Suddenly, out of nowhere, the market sells off. Normally this does not concern me, as we seem to ride out the dips trading stocks with low correlations to the market. We seem to always have a handful of big wins each cycle too, which help pay for the 3-5 (on average) positions that expire worthless each month. This month, no monster winners, just a handful of positions expiring worthless.

This month, I have 9.

I can’t exactly recall the last time this has happened. Not in the last two years anyway. And what’s interesting, several of these were profitable. The others I was right on the price movement. But in EVERY situation, I was wrong about time.

Today I will watch several worthless positions leave my screen, no longer serving as a constant reminder of good risk gone bad. This will help me to move on, mentally, without an account full of static reminders of what I could have, should have, or would have done differently.

Needless to say the big gains I worked hard for this year have nearly all diminished. The last week and a half has helped me to get back into the green for the year. I’m in a state now where I am hungry. I have a tendency to make up for drawdowns quickly and am done fucking around for 2014. Time to get things rolling again.

Here’s where I am at right now:

Calls: KBH, JASO, TSL, LULU, TWTR (March Options)

Last night in After Hours with Option Addict, we discussed CACQ, NOW, Z, PHM, BX and a few others that are trading well. Let’s move forward in putting February behind us.

OA

 

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133 comments

  1. mrboulders

    +1

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  2. autumnalcity

    Jeff, any plans to try the YGE 7s again?

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  3. sandwich

    I like the “done fucking around” part… This is my month to minimize or just straight eliminate bad entries.

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  4. The Fly

    Options can be a friend to you.

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  5. TheDutchTouch

    I think I came aboard here at a rough time, but it’s truly been a learning experience and technically it was all risk capital lost. I’ve learned a lot but haven’t even put a dent in what’s still out there to know.

    I’m just going to figure the value of the experience nearly offsets the losses. I still have an excited outlook.

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    • Option Addict

      Sorry to hear. I am normally in much better form.

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      • Option Addict

        I think if you applied a chart of blog comments over the last 6 months, despite going through highs and lows, its not just me that is having a rough go this month.

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        • TheDutchTouch

          I know you do great things and I’m excited to see where the rest of the year goes. You nailed it when you said “Today I will watch several worthless positions leave my screen, no longer serving as a constant reminder of good risk gone bad.” It’s exactly my line of thought.

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          • Option Addict

            I look at it as a reminder to stay sharp moving forward.

            I’m a college basketball fan, and have been watching an undefeated team squeak out some close wins lately, only to take their first loss to a less talented team lately. For most teams, that lesson serves as a turning point to beat the shit out of every task for the remainder of the season.

            Stay hungry.

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          • yoshii11

            Those Syracuse had some amazing victories. Now they can fall back on…”well, the pressure is off” hoping my homestate Shockers can keep it rolling…I’ll concede they don’t play near the competition as other top teams.

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          • TheDutchTouch

            As a UofM fan that stayed hungry for YEARS while we were ineligible for the NCAA tournament after our big wins, I feel I am well prepared.

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    • jacked rabbit

      Keep your head up, Dutch. I got involved here a bit before you, so I got to see how great this group was in normal times. One thing for sure, this group will find the trade eventually.

      I’m merely focused on position sizing and my pre-trade routine (ins, outs, finding the most reactive options, etc.) Good luck!

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    • raffles

      +1

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  6. matt_bear

    this month fucking SUCKS. i feel like i got spanked for talking too much shit and gloating in January….my only saving grace was top ticking my sell of angi options at 19.80

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  7. TheWolf

    anyone like $BAC here?

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    • sandwich

      I got in Mar calls 2 days ago… Still like it

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      • TheDutchTouch

        I’m still puzzled over why my order didn’t fill…

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      • yoshii11

        followed in with you…but with Apr calls. If I even get a sniff of 17 or 16, i’ll be pulling some off the table.

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        • TheWolf

          I think it makes a big move next week went with next week 17’s @ 0.02 yolo trade

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  8. azulgrana

    if we like CACQ, when the dust settles on earnings in prep for the world cup, we revisit WBAI

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  9. bchu12

    Agree with OA completely. This month has been one of the most frustrating ever

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  10. BadBoy

    I’m in that camp of having a rough beginning to 2014 but I enjoy and learn from the OA video’s very night. Well done sir. I tip my hat to you. We’ll rebound and will be popping bottles and making it rain before the year is over.

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  11. ripper

    OA do you ever sell options or put on spreads? cause all I have seen is just buying options.

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    • TheDutchTouch

      He’s really nailed some quick jumping long stock picks lately

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    • Option Addict

      Only when premiums are rich. They haven’t been rich in 3 years.

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    • lanforce

      Generally speaking, OA avoids spreads because it caps his upside gains. Since his style is “anticipating the breakout”, he is always looking for MASSIVE upside gains (we aim for 2 baggers, but hope for returns in the 1000’s of percent).

      That said, there is certainly no reason not to take an OA idea and apply a spread to it. Some in here (new proud Papa Matt_Bear comes to mind – and I think also Sandwich) use spreads to either mitigate risk or cheapen up an expensive option.

      And certainly with spreads, the higher IV’s we’ve been seeing lately can make them profitable in their own right, if you can catch good strikes.

      Not this month certainly, but generally in a quarter there will be 2 or 3 “monster” trades where many of us in here vie to time our exits to see who can beat 1200%, 1800%, 4200% (extreme example). Just know on those trades you will likely be capped at 300% to 500%. On the other hand, you will have lost far LESS than the group on options that expired OTM or worthless.

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  12. sandwich

    I am just realizing I have 9 (12 if you count the BS yolos I did this week) options expiring worthless for the month.
    I believe I had 15 expire worthless last month… I guess that means progress.

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  13. ilene

    I have to echo what everyone’s saying. The year started great, now not so great. But OA has given me confidence that I can weather this market. My two main strategies for now are small position sizes and stock for anything $10 or under.

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    • lanforce

      I must confess that after investing literally hundred of hours learning the OA trading style and opportunity identification, I really have lost all confidence trading this market. It almost seems like the old rules don’t apply right now.

      Breakouts that crumble because of some dickwad analyst, FED announcements, social media hype driving IV through the roof etc., I’m almost to the point that if a trade doesn’t work in 3-4 days, I want to take it off because i know there’s a whammy waiting just around the corner to totally destroy the trade.

      Based on January, I had high hopes for this month. Between she who will not be named, yet another failure on FSLR and some miscellaneous bad trades, my account has been set back to November levels.

      Being on a spouse-imposed speculation budget, I can’t simply plow an unlimited amount of risk capital into new trades, even knowing that’s the only way to claw back.

      Frustrating…..

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      • jacked rabbit

        Trade confidently, Ian. You and others helped me with that CZR trade in January that gave me that first hit of what options could do. It’ll come back, we gotta find the trade. It’s not over…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

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        • lanforce

          Thanks for the kind words, Rabbit. Yeah, when the market is working right, I can make the right calls. Operative word here is WHEN.

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          • jacked rabbit

            The “when” part is only temporary, Lan. Like someone told me – “If” is the much bigger hurdle.

            We don’t have to worry about the “if” here. This group can trade with any other group I’ve been around.

            It’ll get back, when we all least expect it to. Lengthen the time frame, shorten the strike, take fewer positions.

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  14. matt_bear

    i feel like every feb position i hold is being pinned 50 cents to a dollar out of what I need to get out alive. FSLR, YY, LNKD.

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  15. prabz

    GRPN confirming a double top breakdown on 100 million in volume?

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    • lanforce

      Add 2 major downgrades and (at last count) 9 seeking Alpha articles basically echoing the theme of “told you so”. I saw this morning new revised targets on the stock of $6 and $4 respectively.

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  16. lanforce

    KBH doing half “bloop” right now (up).

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  17. Option Addict

    BKS reminding me what a good idea it was to sell early.

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    • lanforce

      But even so, without the benefit of hindsight, would you REALLY have held it all the way to today ?

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      • matt_bear

        actually yeah. he probably would have. it’s been in the money for 4 days so not much pain at all downside wise.

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    • Raul3

      I sold ACAD early today….LoL, the grass, it can be so green at my neighbors house while mine is brown

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  18. bchu12

    OA, any thoughts on $SALE?

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  19. budh

    I must be living right– holding calls in SWY and BKS!

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  20. ramsburgh

    BKS, you’re killing me!

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  21. Zenhunter

    The way I see it, trading option is like training a tiger. If you do a good job, the tiger is your friend; even though, you can get hand chewed off if you are not careful with your pet.

    Thus, I try to use option sparingly. I believe the best time to use option is when you see a deer running right across your face. You feel the air rushed by you, you feel the rumbling on the ground… Without hesitation, you let your tiger loose for the chase.

    In other words, when I see a stock acting well and start to think of adding size, I’ll see it at the best time to buy option.

    But these type of “intuition” doesn’t often; thus you leave the tiger alone.

    Thanks for sharing.
    Z

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  22. starbroker321

    january started to be promising after looking back to the big profitable trades in december everybody had in mind ,
    the majority was extremely bullish and did not protect there portfolios to the downside , what i learned in these 3 months trading again options is avoid any yolo trades ,they may work for oa
    or any other sharp trader not for me ,
    lowering the strike and go out further one month keeps your mind a bit more in balance , looking forward for better trades like the one that should not be named or grpn – if you where long !

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  23. ramsburgh

    OA, didn’t you roll out to March w/ BKS?

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  24. lanforce

    The ultimate reward for succesful option traders (NSFW – Barely)

    http://www.dorothystratten.com/Alan_Houghton_04.html

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  25. mrboulders

    based on many of the posts here, I’d say we’re in the discouragement phase of the sentiment cycle.
    Hang in there, keep taking good trades when they’re there and we’ll work our way out of this.
    Personally, I’m taking a break to watch some Olympic hockey.
    Go Canada!

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    • TheDutchTouch

      USA! USA! USA!

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      • mrboulders

        They get to fight for the Bronze, and they should definitely get it. They played a great game but couldn’t get through the Canadian defense.
        Canada for Gold!
        Sweden will make it very tough for them.

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        • Bones

          Price for PM!

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        • TheDutchTouch

          Couldn’t catch the game since Im at work today, and I knew I wouldn’t be able to avoid the score so I didn’t bother to record it. From the looks of the stats of the boxscore, it seems like the US just couldn’t solve Price.

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  26. yoshii11

    I’m still waiting this afternoon for ibankcoin asset management to tender an offer for 51% stake of GRPN…any chance we can hit the wires on that one…say, in the next 2 hours?

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  27. gatorsun

    INO sold it all 3.18 fucking bullshit market..take the win

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  28. starbroker321

    gs right @ the fib extension , good trade

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  29. jersey whale

    I stuck my toe in on Mar 9’s for grpn, not feeling too good about it.

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  30. sandwich

    Finally got my JASO’s filled… Pretty happy with the entry

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  31. lanforce

    Looks like KBH is going to pin. Penny in either direction and I’ll own it.

    Damn

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  32. sandwich

    Wish I held PDCE thru earnings… Got to hold all your positions thru earnings if you hold one…. I did hold SONS and GRPN which wasn’t too bad

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  33. bchu12

    looks like i’ll be holding GRPN forever now

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    • DaJuice

      It’s going to be annoying having those 11 and 12 march calls on my books for the next month. Might just dump em so I don’t have to look at them. Of course I’m sure the FB buyout offer at $20 would come the next day…

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  34. halloweenpleb

    My Sentiment exactly. it is amazing the number of comments in your blog. that shows how many folks listen to what you have to say. I already put my FSLR screw up behind me and only looking forward to better more profitable trades.

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  35. yoshii11

    SNTA, at your own risk. Not really the best spot on fears of buying the bloop…nevertheless, a little higher and it could start moving faster. Place a stop if you must. Volume drying up as it maintains price.

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  36. lplongo

    I order RSOL to run into the bell.

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  37. managerlou

    F it. Bot FEYE and RSOL.

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  38. jacked rabbit

    Took my 50% gain in JNPR over the last two days. Probably more willing to take smaller gains on breakouts for a short time. Still think we get a bit of pullback here…

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  39. sandwich

    My good day went to not so good… My ANR entry was 5% lower in stock price from current price, IV looks good but yet my option is down 10%… WTF

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  40. bchu12

    can today end already????!!!

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  41. yoshii11

    education stocks absolutely on fire today…thanks to STRA…but hard to find anything actionable. maybe time for COCO to get off its you know what.

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  42. biffer

    With all you guys on a it being a tough Feb .Gonna focus on better entries.Patience and keeping my fn gains. SUNE treating me well still and look at ACAD.Finally popped.

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  43. azulgrana

    this mkt is gonna shake all the nervy hands out before it really moves

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  44. yoshii11

    IDRA 15% today, congrats longs. Best stock position I ever opened last year. I owe a big thanks here. Hopefully others here can toast to this one as well. Enough about Jan and Feb could have been’s, I’m with OA, let’s get rolling. Losers always whine about their best; winners go home and…

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  45. rajusus

    yoshii11 I feel that APOL , COCO and CECO are actionable here

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  46. jersey whale

    I traded like a rank amateur this week. I’m going out now to drink copious amounts of scotch and take a cigar. Indeud.

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  47. steak

    Brutal, brutal month. After closing out Jan @ +26%… I managed to lose money on just about every trade I made in Feb. Today, I watched PRAN, and ANGI, calls expire completely worthless (no bid what so ever). Looking forward to putting this month behind me, big time. My only winners, thus far, in Feb, was AMBA (thanks to that retarded SA article), and XIV. To date, I’ve never realized such poor performance in this short a period of time.

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  48. Jason

    Check out Jeff Augen’s books on trading volatility spikes right before big events like earnings. It’s pretty easy to make 10%+ gains with relatively little risk by buying straddles/strangles, RICs, etc. a few days to a few weeks before earnings and then selling the inevitable volatility spike before earnings.

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  49. downtown

    In terms of the whole year, if you gotta have a bad month, February seems like the logical choice… it is the shortest.. so see, well done OA!

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  50. monte burns

    6 here, the reason it stings so bad is they weren’t losers they were poorly managed. Acct looking good now though.

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  51. cheesetrader

    Was a super busy week, so couldn’t comment here much.

    Feb exp winners – calls in PANW, PCYC, QCOM and XONE

    Losers – PANW puts and TSL puts

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  52. gatorsun

    KNDI…big runner going on now…we caught a flyer

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  53. BadBoy

    I bought YELP March $100 calls. Let’s see what happens

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  54. jacked rabbit

    In CLF Mar 24’s for .26

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  55. Boiler93

    bought VRNG Mar 4.50s for .14

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  56. Boiler93

    anyone like X here near bottom of range? In about a 4 month old descending wedge or at the neckline of a really deformed head & shoulders

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    • yoshii11

      on a longer timeframe chart, I can see the long idea. Right now, I don’t know…but maybe that’s just micromanaging an entry if you are truly thinking long term. consider AKS, and I think NUE warrants a look.

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      • Boiler93

        thanks for your thoughts Yoshi. Was just thinking about the next bloop up in X not really long term. I’m in AKS Mar 7s since 2/10 and hoping for today to mark the low or cut it.

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  57. hattery

    Time to dust the February dirt off and start fresh again.
    KBH March 20.
    Also, back into long HXM stock..

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  58. yoshii11

    I’m feeling some heat from recent entry in VJET…hope that turns around later this week. SNTA from Friday’s entry, though, is very promising. Maybe later this week it breaks through that 7 resistance. If it fails and does a retest, look to load or dump based on that retest action. can’t go wrong with a ‘pharmaceutical’ in the name and a ticker that reminds you of Santa. 🙂

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  59. j livermore

    GME consolidation looks so tasty here.

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  60. yoshii11

    looks like our RSOL changed tickers to RGSE

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  61. sandwich

    Took a nibble on SFUN down here

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  62. yoshii11

    is this the day NFLX breaks outta that range?

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  63. yoshii11

    and getting eerily close on KEYW. anything under 18 very buyable if you get that chance. Its just a matter of time on this one…stock would be a safer bet in case it takes more time. One of these days it will be well up over a $1 on the fast move. downside is 16, but I don’t think we’ll see that play out unless ‘the market’ dumps.

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  64. jacked rabbit

    OA, do you think there will be some sort of precursor to a big move on all of the homebuilders? They are pretty quiet right now, TOL announces soon, and HOV is next week.

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