Only in a bizarro world does this sort of shit happen before the New Year, in the middle of Hannukah. But Obama chose this time and place to call out Israel, just prior to being replaced by someone who will just have to unravel the yarn he’s tying in knots now.
In response to John Kerry’s speech, where he lectured Israel about democracy and the path to peace, Israeli President, Bibi Netanyahu, said he was deep disappointed, didn’t need to be lectured about peace and said he was looking forward to working with Trump on undoing all of the damage both Kerry and Obama have caused the state of Israel, with their last minute antics.
Benjamin @netanyahu expresses "deep disappointment" in John Kerry's speech: "Almost as unbalanced as" last week's UN resolution. pic.twitter.com/TJSyx9Nzmn
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) December 28, 2016
.@netanyahu: "Israelis do not need to be lectured about the importance of peace by foreign leaders." https://t.co/XHlINpWoH1 pic.twitter.com/8TqH2HPFf5
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) December 28, 2016
.@netanyahu: "Israel looks forward to working with President-elect Trump…to mitigate the damage this resolution has done." pic.twitter.com/iaolE7YorC
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) December 28, 2016
.@netanyahu: "I have no doubt that our alliance will endure the profound disagreement we have had with the Obama administration." pic.twitter.com/o6Gl6eWrDi
— Fox News (@FoxNews) December 28, 2016
And lastly, Netanyahu said his government has ‘incontestable’ evidence that the United States was behind the recent UN resolution.
If you enjoy the content at iBankCoin, please follow us on TwitterNetanyahu: We have "absolutely incontestable evidence" the US was behind the UN resolution https://t.co/JnTnuXgCIt https://t.co/vnmQ1XdoJv
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) December 28, 2016
After 4 years, if there is a new incoming president, are you going to bash Trump if he refuses to give up his own policies? If he refuses to act against his conscience? If he Trump then continues to do what he believes is right, without asking the permission of the incoming president, will you bash Trump then too?
If you are fair, rather than just habitually bashing Obama/Democrats and habitually praising Trump/Right Wingers, then you will bash Trump if he does exactly the same thing during his last few weeks in office.
If you are Tribal, the rules are:
My tribe is good no matter what we do.
Your tribe is bad no matter what you do.
If you are Fair, then the rules are:
An action is good or bad, regardless of who does it.
I am fairly certain that none of these commentators, including Fly, actually listened to Kerry’s slanted pro-Israel speech. FoxFly’s just fishing for clicks/views.
There is either a two state solution or Israel slaughters every single Arab in their way. Either way, US politics have proven us to be too full of political cowards and traitors for us to do any good to either side.
Ferd, are you completely ignorant or just hate Jews?Hamas, isis, Hezbullah, AlQaeda, the PA , Fatah, palestinian Islamic Jihad etc are radical Muslims who hate America as much as they hate Israel. This conflict is about Jew hatred, nothing more. It is not slaughter when you defend yourself (and the rest of the free world by the way) against the suicide bombers
That’s a classic. Anyone who disagrees with the Likud line is an anti-Semite. Learn some history asshole.
Anyway, you morons who assume that anyone who supports a two state solution is an anti-Semite might want to look in the mirror. All Jews do not hold the same opinion as you do. Bernie, J Street, el al are full of courageous Jews who stand up to morons like yourself.
I need to “learn history”? Your personal insults don’t cover up the fact you don’t know that Likud is not the right wing party in the governing coalition, Yisrael Beitanu and Bayt Yehudi are. Also, extreme leftist Jews can be every bit as anti-Israel or antisemitic for that matter as non-Jews. “J-Street” is notoriously anti-Israel and supported the Iran Deal and “Bernie” the Marxist who cited false figures in the last Hamas led war on Israel? Come on. Learn what’s really going on in the mid east or just come out and say you’re a hater.
I had to flag FERD the TURD for fake news. Sorry. Your local magistrate will be contacting you shortly.
So let’s see – Israel gave up the Gaza and was thanks with a rain storm of rockets, is dealing with an adversary that refuses it’s right to exist, kills anyone not believing in Islam (gays, Jews, Christians, etc)
Yeah, the left is TOTALLY correct about this one.
Jan 20 can’t come soon enough.
HAMAS buys Christians christmas trees… albeit for sneaky reasons… otherwise spot on. Try reading a bit. Things are unfortunately not as black and white as they seem on your favorite youtube channel
Offering advice, such as ‘read more’ or ‘learn history’ is both condescending and lazy. It does nothing but to attempt to place yourself on a higher plane — which fails miserably because everyone sees through it.
Very well. Here are your Christian killing Palestinians raising up a Christmas tree. Probably so they can talk about hating Jews… but my point is proven.
http://www.reuters.com/video/2016/12/03/palestinians-light-up-christmas-tree-in?videoId=370622579
The world is a little more complicated than all Muslims hate Jews and Christians and Jews and Christians get a long.
The fact of history is that Jews have had much better time in history in the Arab world than Christian world. Inquisition? Pogroms? Crusades?
Arabs took the city of Jerusalem in 637. They took it from Greek Byzantine Christians who had expelled the Jews from the city. AKA Jews could not pray at home. The Arabs let them back in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(636%E2%80%93637)
When the Christians took Jerusalem in 1089 they killed all the Muslims and all the Jews. They expelled the Jews just as the Byzantine Christians had done before. Jews were hiding in the synagogue and the Christians burnt the building down with women and children inside.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(1099)
Before leaving for the holy land, Jews were slaughtered in the streets of England.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_I_of_England#Coronation_and_anti-Jewish_violence
When the Muslims took the city back in 1187 they let the Jews back in, again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(1187)
Never did the Jews or Muslims decide to kill all the Christians.
Maimonides practically rewrote Judaism and he did it all while living in the Muslim world. When Jewish scholars were allowed to study their own religion in the Arab world… they were being hacked to pieces and having their books burned in the Christian world/
Now can we truly say that Christians are evil? St. Francis of Assisi tried his best to end the violence of the Crusade… is he not clearly the more “Christian” when compared to Crusader Kings who ride on horses cutting people’s heads off?
No. I don’t think Christians are evil. I think people are stupid and brainwashed idiots can be convinced that their religion requires them to kill other people. Christians are not supposed to kill people either but please… look at what you guys did when you “discovered” America… Latinos are Christian because they had no choice. Just like the Arab conquest… that is how a religion gets to have 1 billion members. Forced conversions.
I’ve read the gospels… I’ve read the Quran. They are very clear about choosing to be religious. The Europeans who spread Christianity by the sword ala Charlemagne at Verden 782 (ISIS will never top that) were just crappy Christians… just like ISIS is a group of crappy Muslims.
This is what most Christians would have to tell themselves… that chopping off children’s heads as Charlemagne did is not Christian. I mean it happened. Period.
So why are we denying Muslims the right to do the same thing?
This is what is happening to Islam today also. Hijacked. Just like Christianity in the middle ages got hijacked into tying people to sticks and lighting them aflame. It is about power. People want power over the masses.
Ted Cruz and Mike Pence pretending to be God fearing people come to mind. Trump suddenly realizing abortion is evil at the ripe age of whatever the fuck he is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden
Fake news.
Aside from being revered by Jewish historians, Maimonides also figures very prominently in the history of Islamic and Arab sciences and is mentioned extensively in studies. Influenced by Al-Farabi (ca. 872–950/951), Avicenna (c.?980 – 1037), and his contemporary Averroes (1126–1198), he in his turn influenced other prominent Arab and Muslim philosophers and scientists. He became a prominent philosopher and polymath in both the Jewish and Islamic worlds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maimonides
Fake people.
Peaches, quit your hoaxing. The video you cited refers to Fakestinians in BETHLEHEM. Do you know where that is located? Here’s a hint: It is not in Gaza.
You claimed that HAMAS buys Xmas trees for Fakestinians. Fakenews Check? 100% Fakenews.
Bethlehem is Area A under the full administration of Abu Mazen’s PLO aka Palestinian Authority. Not hamas.
Of course the fact that the Christian population is still sizable in that city and the fact they lit up an Xmas tree says nothing about how Christians have been driven out of PLO-controlled disputed territories due to Muslim extremism and terrorism in huge numbers over many years, but that’s besides the point.
Hamas isnt buying people Xmas trees, and you dun goofed.
To ‘sneak things in’ as a lame duck, when he no longer has to face the American people is against the spirit of Democracy. Obama was very careful to wait until AFTER the election to show his true colors. He constantly said he “had Israel’s back” etc. Now, after the people have CLEARLY chosen a different direction and rejected the Democrats agenda, he is going back on commitments to Americas most steadfast ally and complicating things for the next elected President; not to mention the overwhelming majority of the US Senate who URGED him by a resolution of 88-0 specifically NOT to do this – even his OWN PARTY including major Dems like House Whip Stenny Hoyer have criticized this behavior
“Hoyer to Kerry: Shut up; Update: Russia says nyet?”
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/28/hoyer-to-kerry-shut-up/
It’s a low class move, unbefiting for a President of the United States.
Yes, a low class move– unless Trump does it, when his term is about to end and he continues to follow his own plans, rather than doing whatever the incoming president demands. Then it will be a great move, in your book. Won’t it?
Frog,
You speak of Trump doing these things in the future as if they’ve already happened.
Why argue or try to make a point about something that is pure fantasy in your mind?
Are you deranged or just stupid?
You have no valid counter to what Obama has done. Trump hasn’t done what Obama has so don’t take a position on the basis that he has.
It makes you look like a retard.
Frog – you really are a complete moron. I have no doubt that as a child you were a crybaby and bed wetter. Now go suck your thumb in the corner.
Thanks for demonstrating that you have no actual arguments on your side, by just insulting me, rather than making a solid case against my view. Thanks for letting me know that you realize I am right.
You’ve made no case.
Trump said pussy.
I’m sure if Obama had been in the bus with Billy Bush, he would have said something much worse than Trump said.
There’s my argument. It’s like yours so you should understand it well.
Nobody here seriously believed that our wrecking ball POTUS would leave office gracefully and courteously now did we?
I’ll be interested to see if you say that Trump is a wrecking ball too, if he follows his conscience at the end of his time as president, rather than lying down and being a doormat to the incoming president, if that one disagrees with him.
Frog, I agree, however this current POTUS won the nobel peace prize. Let’s see what happens. Time will tell all.
I read the torah everyday. I dont believe in 2 states. Palestinians are crybabies egged on by Iran and other states who hbe 0 interest in Palestinian arabs and 110% interest in destroying Israel. Arabs and Jews lived rather peacefully for 100s of years, at least relative to Europes holvaust and pogroms.
But I think likkud is garbage and so is netanyahu. If he was as tough as he said he is he would have started the genocide he wants 3 years ago. Israel does not need other people’s money or guns and shouldnt whore herself out for it.
Obama and Trump are not HaShem. Netanyahu trusts in chariots. That worked out horribly in 586BC and horribly in the 1st century also.
There is nothing Obama has done that can’t be undone next month if Trump and Congress want to undo it. Just a bunch of words, no actions, at the U.N. is all this is about.
I think Obama is right to follow his conscience. His job is not to sit around and take orders from Trump. Trump will have his turn soon enough.
It’s interesting that people who claimed that Obama was too much of a neo-con all this time– when Obama was far less of a neocon than Bush or Hillary was, and when Obama may have done all he possibly could to hold back the Deep State from running their full neo-con plans– those same people now rage at Obama for not agreeing with the neo-con Netanyahu.
I have read a lot about the Middle East but I doubt any of us have read the whole history of the Israeli Palestininan conflict. Yet one more conflict that would be good for us to stay out of, as far as I can tell. And that’s what Obama is doing, staying out. Trump wants to jump in.
If Trump shows himself to be totally neo-con, will Fly and all Trump’s supporters suddenly become pro-war?
respectfully disagree Frog, I respect that you admit it is ccomplicated and most do NOT know the history, however I actually know a GREAT DEAL on the Islamic religious conflict in the Mideast (that IS what it truly is by the way, a war on non-Muslims in the M.E.). Don’t believe me? Ask isis. isis – ISLAMIC State. It’s not called ‘buddist state’ or ‘Christian state’ or ‘Zoroastrian state’; they DO represent radical Islam. Their war is against non-Muslims, just like Iran, Hezbullah, AlQaeda, Boko Haram, Islamic Jihad etc etc. Obama has been asked by his OWN PARTY (see comment on House Whip Hoyer earlier AND the US Senate 88-0 vote) to not ‘stir the pot’. Yes words DO matter, even at the useless UN, because by repeating the same lies about “settlers” (The mainstream media code word for “JEW”), they foster emnity among the terror groups along with the feeling that they can GET away with it.
The Mid East AINT Ohio and radical Islamic terror groups respect only Strength. SO I aghree, we should STAY OUT OF IT and to ensure peace, the US and Israel must simply be strong to discourage the headchoppers in night shirts.
ISIS kills Muslims all the time. Radical Islam is anti semitic… Islam is not. Quran says who Israel belongs to… Jews. If radical Arabs want to pretend it doesnt say that that has nothing to do with a religion and verything to do with anti semitism. Anti semitism is not unique to the Arab world.
The Palestinian conflict is about Arab nationalism for a state that did not exist util the Jews showed up and the Arabs threw a fit. Religion is a tool used to recruit crazies. Just like the crusades. Nobody was going to fight if they knew it was about spices the pope wanted. Christianity was never about burning jerusalem jews in synagogues, islam is not about that either. All 3 religions say the same thing about Israel. Its ours.
Hardliners pick and choose what they like and then find disgruntled ignorant masses to do their dirty work.
These are Arab groups. All the funding points in one direction. SAUDI ARABIA. Iran has played its part also supporting Hamas and Hezbollah… again to gain the support of Arabs in the region but the radicalization of Islam is being funded by S.A.
In 1948 it had nothing to do with religion. Everything to do with race. These are racist Arabs who want nothing to do with Jews. Not all Arabs are racist… but the ones who run PLO and Hamas are… unapologetically.
There is only 1 version of the Old Testament (Bible/Torah), there are MANY versions of the Quran. Read the Hadith. Study Islamic law. Most Jews in Israel are not European, and many look exactly the same as the Arabs (because they are from Arab countries), and Most Muslims are not even Arab. The conflict is NOT ethnic, it is 100% religious.
Butt pirate,
Wrong again. Most or close to it are from European stock. 2nd, 3rd, generation and so on
The people with the control are those people who founded the nation before and after 1948.
Stop it with the fake news.
Next you’re gonna try and tell us the word Palestine is made up and pigs fly.
Regards
Chuck Bennett
Correct again Uncle Chuck!
Pirate… look at the prime ministers of Israel… one by one.
The “Arab” Jews don’t run the show.
And yes… the conflict is entirely ethnic in that sense that all Jews claim ancestry to Jacob.
Find me a radical Muslim, and lets ask him why exactly he hates Jews…
because of the God in their book who says the Jews were chosen as a people apart? The name repeated the most in the Quran is Moses. Almost all of the Jewish prophets are Islamic prophets.
These guys hate Jews because they have been told to. By other Arabs. Arab’s didnt like Jews being given Israel. They don’t like the Jews that showed up, not because of their religion, but because they don’t look like them. Because they came from Europe.
The “Arab” looking Jews you refer to are called Mizrahim. They had lived in the Muslim countries for centuries, peacefully… until 1948. Then they were suddenly a problem… because they were Jews… like the new “invaders”
You simply want to believe the middle east was always like this. Muslims were not hunting Jews for sport for hundreds of years… in fact… someone else was.
Any guesses?
http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/bible-versions-and-translations/the-original-bible-and-the-dead-sea-scrolls/
Terribly inconvenient. I know.
:/
Hey upchuck, ever actually BEEN to the middle East? I have. No, “most Israelis” are NOT from “European stock”. If you ever travelled throughout Israel you will fiund a majority are “Mizrachi” (meaning eastern, because they don’t want to call themselves ‘Arab’ Jews). The largest ethnic group in Israel is from Morrocco. Even the so-called Ashkenazi Jews (which in America are the overwhelming majority) have semitic blood (long noses to filter out moisture from desert air, long eyelashes to keep sand from eyes, curly hair etc). The attempt to inject ethnicity intro the Islamic connflict in the Mid East is a very clever one by the European haters. It is a way to transfer their OWN colonialist guilt over exploiting darker skinned people to the Jews, who themselves are Semites. Maybe that’s why Kerry only refers to them as “Arabs” or “fakestinians” instead of what they REALLY are: MUSLIMS.
As to the existence of an Arab state of fakestine, you NEVER answered my question (because you can’t) Name a king or leader of fakestine before 1964? name the fakestinian language? You failed to because you are IGNORANT. Name calling and evasion don’t chage the fact that Israel is the ONLY sovereign state to exist btwn the River and Med Sea in the last 35000 years and the Muslims are trying to steal it.
Peaches, I have studied Islamic law. Islamism is a supremacist philosophy that, contrary to what your leftist professors brainwashed you with is NOT tolerant of Non-Muslims (or Dhimmis). Non-Muslims (Jewish, Christian, Yezidi or whatever) must may a “Jizya” (a tax on infidels) must bow their heads lower in the street when passing by, etc etc. Yes many other groups have hated Jews as well, no doubt – but the main hatred of Jews today is from Islam (NOT simply “Arabs” who are a MINORITY of Muslims). Iranians (or Persians as they are called) are insulted if someone calls them ‘Arabs’; they HATE Arabs as most Arabs are Sunni, whilst they are Shia. -and before you tells us all how ‘wonderful’ it was for Jews in Muslim countries like Yemen, note the fact that Jewish girls were married off as young as 12 so they wouldn’t be raped by their wonderful Muslim hosts, or Egyptian Jews who were given “1 hour and 1 suitcase” to leave Egypt (where they had lived for milenia) and fled to Israel.
Correction that’s 3500 years, NOT “35000”
I did not say it was wonderful. I said it was better than Christian Europe. Look up the sieges of Jerusalem in 637, 1089 and 1187.
Everytime the Arabs took the city, Jews were let back in and allowed to pray there.
Everytime the Christians took the city they were slaughtered.
It really is that simple. Argue with the facts. If Islam was an anti-Jewish religion it would have been for longer than 1948 to now.
Thanks for being respectful in your disagreement, Pirate.
Lol. There are a million old testaments. One for every Christian denomination probably.
The Torah is pnly part of the old testament and surprise those are different also.
Dead sea scrolls and masoretic text dont line up… there are many versions of both books. I’d love to believe the Torah is the same everywhere like rabbis say but thats BS. Look up dead sea scrolls vs masoretic text.
Dont know about Quran. I’ve read it front to back and the Torah has got just as much violence and woman hating. Both religions look violent if taken out of context… which is what idiots like to do. The Quran upholds everything in the Torah. It even says anyone who says “our lord is one” has nothing t worry about.
(if you dont do that every morning… what type of Jew are you?)
I do know it says Israel was given to the Jews. It also says we will get it back. Just like the Bible. We did.
What difference does it make. I know plenty of Muslims who think Israel has a right to thier land as it says in both of our books.
Of course those, and the millions of other Muslims who are not killing us are “bad Muslims”
How about you actually go find an educated Muslim and ask them what they believe?
Instead of running around believing random posts all over the internet?
The nazis were 100% convinced Jews wanted to destroy the west and take over the world… if you read the Torah out of context it sure does sound like that is true also.
Devarim 20:16
Deuteronomy for Christians. Who love to tell us our book is “old” and doesnt matter anymore.
Maybe people should dig deeper into the meanings of these books. Egypt and slavery is morethan what it seems. Perhaps Egypt is your ego driven life, which enslaves you. Perhaps following commandments will free you from them. Maybe we all have the same religion and the rest is bullshit.
I have read hadiths. They showed up years later. Centuries. I also heard muhamad said not to write anything he said down. They are most likely embellishments made by dirty Arabs to justify and continue doing their dirty deeds.
Their main book, which says all else besides the Jewish books is bullshit (including all Muslim books not yet written) says Israel belongs to Jews.
Its simple logic. The bad Muslims are the ones fucking with jews. Plenty of clerics have said this in egypt also.
I know you want to believe there is a giant evil religion out there but there isnt or everyone who ever aye a gyro in NYC would be 6ft underground.
You are wrong again Peaches. Every Jewish Torah (old testament, original Bible) on EARTH is the same letter for letter. until about 150 years ago every Jew on earth practiced the exact same Torah Judaism (until the reform movement started in Europe). Yes there are MANY Christian denominations with different books – even beliefs, and as I sad numerous types of Qurans, but only 1 original Torah. For someone who says he is Jewish, it seems there is a lot you don’t know about Judaism.
http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/bible-versions-and-translations/the-original-bible-and-the-dead-sea-scrolls/
You are a fucking retarded person.
Bite it Trumpsters
http://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2016-12-28/gallup-barack-obama-beats-donald-trump-for-most-admired-man?int=popular-articles-news
Well, I am certainly one of those who admires him. He isn’t perfect but he’s the best president we’ve had in a long time.
Those are rigged polls, the same ones that said Hillary had a 99% chance of winning.
Zing!
Its time for the blue states to secede and leave the red state to wallow in their dirty trailer parks..
Mexico would annex them and they’d finally have the factory jobs and 0 government spending on social programs they’ve been asking for.
The Blue states don’t need to be annexed by anyone. We’re doing just fine, thank you. Although we would consider taking in British Columbia with us, if they want to come.
I meant the south Frog. The south would be a prime takeover target for the cartels. Dumb. Lazy. Love meth. Mexico’s crony system would work great since conservatives hate unions and fair wages (communism) so the southerners could get to build American cars at factories again. This time without any pesky union dues or mandatory retirement contributions forcing them to spend their beer money on retirement investments.
Oh, I see, Peaches. Sounds good to me, then.
Isn’t Texas the most solvent of all the states and liberal Illinois the most bankrupted? Something tells me a divided union might also bode poorly for California.
You are shilling so hard right now. Your bitch is still going to jail.
Shes not my bitch. Send her to jail!
We were just having silly gay libtard fun man… like ironbird when he talks about the world being ruined because women can vote!
No joke tho. F’real. I would hate to lose any of our 50 beautiful states.
Nobody can send her to jail because there is no evidence whatsoever that she did anything illegal. That “Lock her up” stuff was just stuff Trump did to get the rage vote for himself. And he sure got it.
you say most Muslims are not Arab? I say most violent ones are. Everyone on the plane on 9/11 was Saudi. That is not even arguable. They are like almost entirely Arab. Look up Wahabbism. Saudi Arabia has created a fundamentalist branch of Islam. Just like Rome created Christianity and ruled over Christians until Gutenberg printed a Bible in German and people actually read the thing and realized they had been fed a lie for 1000+ years.
Saudis have shipped it around the world. Fly has even written about it. The New York Post has written about it…
http://nypost.com/2016/04/16/how-saudi-arabia-undermines-the-united-states/
“But our real problem is here and now, in the United States. Consider how idiotic we’ve been, allowing Saudis to fund hate mosques and madrassas, to provide Jew-baiting texts and to do their best to bully American Muslims into conformity with their misogynistic, 500-lashes worldview. Our leaders and legislators have betrayed our fellow citizens who happen to be Muslim, making it more difficult for them to integrate fully into our society.”
It’s a shame MSM is afraid of Saudi investors to tell us the truth.
Its becoming a problem for young Muslims here in NYC. Second generation Muslims with college degrees are NOT going to Mosques. Probably because 80% of Mosques are funded by Saudis.
Most of the Muslims I have met in NYC however are NOT Arab. Maybe they are running away from something? CIA trained Saudi’s like Osama flying across the Muslim world radicalizing ignorant illiterates perhaps? Afghanistan was not in the middle ages SINCE the middle ages… just since the Taliban came into power. Reagan period.
Osama Bin Laden was not an Afghan FYI. Saudi Arabian fundamentalists shipped out all over the world… because of oil they have tons of money and are printing out and handing out their translations around the world.
In a Wahhabi translation of the Quran… a verse with the word “those who have gone astray” is translated “Christians”
“those who have incurred your wrath” becomes “the jews”
verses meant to mean one thing, become anti-Christian and anti-Jewish… all while Newscorp and Citigroup keep paying out dividends and the Saudi animals spend the money on you know what. The entire program is to get Muslims around the world brainwashed into thinking Saudi Arabia is their Rome… and the Saudi leadership is the pope. Just like the Romans did with the pope having power over all of Europe.
And the US is helping them do it. We took out Iraq for them. Libya. Syria also. Iran is left. Look at civil war in Yemen, US provided the weapons and drone strikes.
Yet Obama and Bush have been silent about this. Bush and Saudi royal family are friends… Yet hilariously Obama is constantly posted as some secret Muslim… hes not a secret Muslim… hes just a regular old neocon. This is nothing new. Reagan made friends with these people and armed them to fight the communists. Now we have a bigger problem.
I’m still waiting for Trump to address the Saudi issue.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for Trump to address any issue other than how to make himself and his cronies richer. His cabinet is a bunch of crony capitalists.
Maybe Fly will write an article addressing Wahabbism and how our corporations help fund it. I’m sure he is aware of it, as is Tucker Carlson and Bill O’Reilly and everyone on God forsaken Faux news.
Or maybe Trump will let Pence start a caliphate here at home for the brainwashed evangelicals and baptists to help “save” the rest of us from science class.
Through the years many people who have held cabinet positions were wealthy. Do you think hiring less rich people will make the cabinet members more qualified and less greedy? Don’t make their wealth an automatic disqualification for doing good for the country.
no, but hiring almost exclusively rich people and then saying you are doing so because it proves they are successful says a lot about your sense of ethics.
Moses? Confucius? Buddha? Einstein? Jesus?
Trump has no ethics. He is an anti-intellectual.
Had Obama decided to only appoint black people, or poor people or something… it would be messed up also.
Sooo, maybe… Trump should hire one inner city single mother with a baby daddy in jail, to talk some sense into them when they are running away with crony capitalist ideas!
I looked up to see what Trump’s main criteria was in making his selections and from what I read is he wanted to pick a winning team of players that have been very successful in their careers and can take their knowledge and experience and apply it for the good of the country.
Let’s give them a chance to prove themselves and if they aren’t performing or acting like “crony capitalists” I’m sure they will get called out for it.
Meaningless conversation.
Dr. Fly is a genius!
Not pandering just a cool observation!
I have in-laws, both of them ordained ministers, (Calvinist persuasion) who have been to Israel numerous times in their studies and other activities. Both of them say that the problems there are most definitely not exclusive to the Palestinians. The Israeli’s have done some pretty heinous things to people who have legally owned land, farmed it, lived on it for generations. Things like literally waking the family up in the middle of the night and escorting them from their home with bulldozers standing by idling while they are sent to a camp somewhere.
They feel the Arab/Muslim outsiders who have supposedly taken up the cause of the Palestinians are behind 99% of the war like activity against Israel and they feel Israel knows this full well. Many of the Israelis they have spoken with feel horrible about what their government has done to the people who have been indigenous to the area for centuries.
Those same Israelis however, are also mad as hell about Hezbollah, Hamas and other Iranian and Saudi pawns randomly firing a few hundred rockets at them from time to time. Not to mention common terrorist type attacks on buses, where people congregate like markets and malls, etc etc.
Neither side is blameless but it would be light years better if the outside influences were kicked out by the Palestinian leaders, who btw, reflect little of what their “subjects” really believe and want.
If we wanted to do something productive there it would be to help the Palestinians give the outsiders the boot. How that would happen or what form it would take, I have no clue.
But I will say that if left alone, the Israelis and the Palestinian people could and would get along. With things remaining as they are? Not so much.
Hi, Heaterman. Sounds like an excellent idea. Perhaps there can be some way to do that that you or someone else will think of, after considering the situation more.
Cool stuff heaterman. I didn’t know most Palestinians are aware of outside Arab influences. I have always thought a 2 state solution would mean an officially recognized anti-Israel Arab state. It would be nice to have Palestinian sovereignty but the way the PLO and Hamas and Hezbollah operate it would be a nightmare.
Like you said, they need to be educated. Right now the only people trying to get to them are terrorists. They need a better message to hear.