In my excitement to position myself for this move we see happening this week, I chose to overlook a common risk management principle in order to capitalize on what might be a year end run in stocks. While the reasoning was right, and the initial entry and move I nailed, I am still in the process of seeing ideas play out, but am stuck in the lull of waiting for the trades to pay out.
The risk management principle I am referring to is diversification. Normally, I am pretty well spread out in the trades I take. I might have a couple correlated trades on, but I usually enter them at different times, so I can build profits on the original position before looking to add another. I try to select fast upside candidates in at least a half dozen various groups. At present, I am levered to Solar, Social Media, and Materials – all of which are at the threshold of investor indecision.
This time around, I entered in multiple correlated trades nearly simultaneously. For the most part, the ideas worked right out the gate, but now we see stocks pull back a bit this week, and multiple option positions decay simultaneously. No way around this. It sucks. However, if the objective hasn’t been met, and neither upside or downside exit rules have been met, this is where sitting on hands becomes difficult.
I refer back to past situations like this and you’ll see how my blog has been feast or famine. The ideas over time have been great, but in dealing with options, you are penalized by time. This is why we always refer back to risk management principles, and that is because leveraged instruments can chew up big sums of capital if you are not careful. All year it has been the same story here. We put on trades. We have weeks where accounts are up double digits. We celebrate. Market pauses. We get quiet. We take some trades. We wait. We drawdown. We get patient. We want to capitulate. The market moves. Our trades explode. We celebrate.
With the luxury of hindsight, my mistake recently has been ignoring my diversification rule. This time around, it makes the waiting a little more uncomfortable.
OA
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added BIDU Dec1 165’s on this dip – in at 1.55
don’t think this helps me in terms of diversification, but so far the trade is looking good.
Good points noted here OA – thanks again.
Well said OA, this is a problem of mine as well. Currently too overweight solar but think people are digesting real profits in the sector and major indecision is a positive.
I also like to think of diversifying through a variety of non-related sectors as opposed to any regressions based on subjective periodicity. You could show any correlation you want if you change the time frame, etc.- I like to think of diversifying among non-correlated “ideas” as opposed to a math-based approach. I’m prob a caveman in this respect.
EXACTLY my current feeling.
OA, haha. I’m in the same boat with you. LEvered up to Social media, solar, materials and China (i know you don’t have China on your list). This week definitely SUCKED balls. Hopefully next week brightens these up
Market new highs, FB and solar new lows. I’m immune to capitulation, but the thesis may have changed. At what point can resolve be called stubbornness?
On each trade I take, I always define that question in advance. That way, I never rely on gut or feel to make a decision. Usually, a specified price near lows will do it.
Necessary post, there has been a few trades i remember where you were literally being flamed for them. Your response was “let the trade work” to have it work on literally the last 2-3 days of a monthly.
I remember those. And each of which produced big triple digit wins.
Patience of Job.
the new frustration…market ripping, and the stocks you own aren’t participating
Got some TWTR Jan 45s 1.65$
I hate TSL and WLT right now, but somehow I’m still up on the week. Good lookin on the $C calls OA, slow and steady
ur lucky you are not holding YGE. that’s been a shitter for me this week
Agreed
FSLR killing me but will let it work out…
all solar getting stomped this week.
Went on a buying spree this moring! Picked up TSLA $130 calls for Dec. Apple calls, CLF calls and last but not least just for IANFORCE more Qihu calls but Dec. not Nov. 29th I got my face ripped off by those things. It’s time to go Kamikaze in the face of death!
Now time for a SANDWICH Bitches
Thanks for a good chuckle on a drizzly morning.
I’m already fat off all the sandwiches I’ve been eating.
i loved when the Jets were on Hard Knocks and after one of Rex Ryan’s talk he ends with “now let’s go eat a god damn snack”
Pharma going CRAZY today.
FSLR setting up almost too perfect at 60, bottom of channel and 20 day sma. should all converge monday
Setting up for what? Really needs to hold 58 or else the chart starts looking bearish.
setting up for you to make a decision to go long against that level if you like buying against 3 levels of support for a clear area to trade against to limit your risk. thats a fairly decent setup. its not the winning lotto numbers, sorry.
+1
Index are all time high, and my portfolios are blood all over,,,, negative,,, my wife believes our accounts are super up like index,,,, I don’t feel like holiday season at all myself. Come on, solar and social n’t, wake up for us !!!
got to hav patience and
hide this months statement from wifey..lol
haha. youre in the same boat as every other follower on this blog…yeh, its been a rough rough week.
What’s wrong with social media? I’m holding ZNGA calls and long shares and am loving it this week. Volume pockets at their first.
Social Media and solar look very much intact as measured by $IYW and $TAN respectively. So let’s all back down from the edge and $HAS
If you don’t think pinning is real, check out AAPL monthly historical pricing. Now look at closing prices for (today), 11/15, 11/08, 11/01.
Those demons with the black helicopters hold all the cards.
Just sayin…
AAPL is a poker table filled with donkies. TPTB love taking their money.
the harper is having a shitty gas station blunt today. 😀
OA, thoughts on RLD?
Holding up so very well
Oh goodness, so is ETFC.
FWIW – I had Nov 7.50’s that went ITM for a nice gain because of the earnings pop. I’d still be holding if I didn’t need to sell on expiry.
And bought ETFC Dec 18’s today
($RLD Nov 7.50’s)
same on the ETFC Dec 18’s, you and I are trading the same playbook.
Im thinking i should get back in CZR
Guys:
I’m up 90% on my Citi calls when is a good time to sell. RSI is getting up there in the 60’s. Any advice for a rookie is appreciated
Look at the weekly chart, NO reason to sell here at all. If you are still unsure, look at JPM and BAC and XLF. Those will tell you the bigger picture.
Danny I have a grip of the C calls as well and I agree with the esteemed Harper entirely. One more thing as well: it depends on which strike you own. Once you get ITM, you start building intrinsic value which is going to turbocharge gains. I own the 52.50s, so selling here would be especially foolish in my case.
Thank you for the complement, sir. Much appreciated.
Depends on your appetite for risk – I took half off and letting the other half ride
I would sell enough to cover my whole premium for the lot. That way I don’t lose anything, and still have some exposure to upside potential.
Out
That is exactly what I did. In at .41 and half out at .90. Risk management. I agree with the analysis that banks appear to be pushing higher but wanted to lock in some gains.
like autumnalcity, I hold the C 52.50’s
The stock is continuing to put in higher highs so I hold until it tells me it is going to do otherwise.
Cuts losers, let winners run.
Wow…SPLK, an old time favorite.
I have the $52.50’s as well guys thanks for the advice. I am going to hold
Is there an After Hours tonight?
good article
social media is not getting any love outta this rally.
neither is solar
Yep, we are definitely in the wrong vehicles…for now.
rotation…financials leading the way
Citi just took out the July high. Closing in on May high. Financials definitely a good spot to be in.
I am getting creamed on FSLR
My TSL calls are just about worthless
to keep things in perspective, there are still over 17 TRADING DAYS left on december options. Don’t need to panic this week.
Agreed but the issue is this hugh rotation taking place. I am not sure money will be flowing to solars and social media over anytime soon. Market keeps making new highs and my portfolio keeps getting crushed except for C.
SOL,JASO,WLT,YELP is what I am holding. Bad times
mine heading in that direction today with 26 days to expiration…its going to be a very tough December
Wow. Markets are at the highs right now and your accounts are near lows for those holding solar, social media and materials. Just imagine once we have a real down day of even like 1%
Maybe its time for you to position elsewhere?
“near lows”?
didn’t get that “near lows” either
No kidding.
not lows, but i’m down in 13 of the last 15 positions initiated, so that’s a good 20% for me.
Funky Buttlovin
screw this “bull market” in all the wrong stuff here
Agreed. Finally some wise words. Financials and healthcare. Stay in those. For those in solar and social media, god spotted
I meant god speed
I want to add to SPWR or start IN FSLR ??? any thoughts.
Haha. That seems to be the theme on this blog
From what I can tell, you are not in much of a position to talk either.
definitely not on the ones that i followed on the high fliers, ie solar and social media. Financials and healthcare are saving me but obviously not covering the heavy selling in the red sectors.
FSLR – breakdown or strategic entry ?
Feel free to add thoughts ….
going into denial on the 2 yr chart and if these levels hold, bear trap on the head and shoulders 30 minute chart
Gap fill on the horizon? I will buy there if so..
If you do – I’d certainly appreciate a heads up in here.
Thx
The pull back is lo volume……
Umm, it’s actually an above average volume day for FSLR
I’ll split it…Doubled up on TWTR
OA
please do not respond to the troll, not at all worth your time and words
I’ve trimmed winners today..mentality being too busy with holidays coming up to actively manage positions. Plenty of people wanting to protect this year’s profits and move into “safer” bets. I think this is playing out in the market.
Any thoughts on DDD? Looks good if it holds 70$, imo.
OA, any change ( sell ) in your holdings ? or still intact all ? Thanks.
I took off SPWR, everything else in tact for now.
80% loss? whats the point?
To avoid 100%.
Thanks. I own stocks, so I have time to invest or hold longer. Will see solar and social stocks turn around in spring time.
RSH doing nicely. Thanks, OA.
And don’t forget GLUU. It’s not all doom and gloom out there.
Nick,
This may help.
http://www.briefing.com/Investor/PopupPages/ArticlePopup.aspx?ArticleId=IN20131125091617DDD
Anyone else holding JASO into earnings?
I am as is Option Addict, IIRC.
FWIW – 50 day moving average on this stock is 50.12.
I’m thinking of adding a bit on this dip.
take your money and run. All solar earnings have been the same. Big pop and then drop. Now, it is just a drop.
SUNE has been the only one holding nicely. TSL has dropped back and so has fslr. I’m still up on FSLR since I bought in the 40s, but profits been cut SIGNIFICANTLY
Then why are you HOLDING?
IDRA back on the way up, unfortunately probably going to hit some resistance…but at least it’s back up above 2. Still like TMO here and ECL. Sold my BIIB and CELG early today, but I can’t complain. watching CMG for eventual move, been digesting for awhile
also HII, been very good since earnings…just started move up for today.
OA, r u holding through earnings on jaso? Guess if it pops we would miss the run if selling before. oWould u reduce any?
Loving your handle…..
Yeah got a good chunk of change in solars right now and teetering to buy this selling or lighten before earnings…sometimes easier to sit on these sell days when earnings is a month away not tomorrow haha!
I’d love to see the intraday play-by-play take place behind the wall in the AHWOA Chat. Let the scabs & trolls glean the crumbs mentioned in the actual post, and nothing else…
OA – I had the initial target for C at 54.50 – 55.50. Does that jibe in light of the financial sector over-performance this session ?
I had a similar target as well
Looks like the IBM short idea that Chess ‘N Wine discussed on Friday heading toward 172 may have some legs.
Man, it is time for a sandwich. Today I have a bourbon ham sandwich. I am hoping it is heavy on the bourbon and light on the ham.
Alternate strategy – dip the bread in bourbon as au jus, wash down the bread with the gravy, and feed small ham slices to the dog.
So lets review my portfolio today shall we:
First the good: Dont worry it’s a short list..lol
C: Up 200% Sweet Jesus
PXLW: Up 3% its a long so I can hug it.
Now the Bad: These are all Options
HIMX Down 1%
NUAN Down 2%
TWTR Down 5%
FB Down 3%
SPWR Down 4% holding this through JASO earnings may lift the solar sector a bit. IMHO
KOG down 3%
Qihu Down 8%
That pretty much sums up my day. all in all my entire portfolio is down 11%. Most of my Options are January’s so I’ll hold for a more beautiful day. At least I’m not alone; miserary loves company
plenty of company here….and, at least you have a bit of diversification. Some of us are in JASO calls, FSLR stock, SPWR, YGE, YELP, LNKD, TWTR, etc. etc. OUCH!
5 Day Sector Performance Leaders
Conglomerates + 3.14%
Healthcare + 2.39%
(within the sector leaders are BioTech & Drugs, Healthcare Facilities).
Financial + 1.19%
(within the sector leaders are S&L’s, Insurance, Investment Services)
Solar with its placement in the Technology Semiconductor space:
-0.62% over 5 days, but +9.63% over 13 weeks.
Long JAKK.
Might try some RAD here for a swing being it broke resistance of 5.44
Bulls make money, Bears make money…Sheep get slaughtered.
GRPN printing a reversal doji hammer..