If you enjoy the content at iBankCoin, please follow us on TwitterMcDonald’s (MCD -0.49%) clientele can finally rest easy, as “dog food” is coming off the menu at the Golden Arches.
In the wake of an outcry by the celebrity chef Jamie Oliver, McDonald’s said on Thursday said it will stop using ammonium hydroxide, a common ingredient in cleaning solutions that’s dubiously dubbed “pink slime,” in its beef patties. Read More.
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beyond shit food america dont export much. some corn some wheat and bombs galore. back to basics it seems. no more “dog food” just daisy cutters and whole wheat buns.
Woodshedder will appear at any moment telling you pink slime is found in all restaurants food.
Be careful what you wish for.
Q: In what foods is ammonium hydroxide used in processing?
A: The list of foods in which ammonium hydroxide is used as a direct food additive is extensive and includes baked goods, cheeses, chocolates, other confectionery (e.g., caramel), and puddings. Ammonium hydroxide is also used as an antimicrobial agent in meat products.
Ammonia in other forms (e.g., ammonium sulfate, ammonium alginate) is used in condiments, relishes, soy protein concentrates/isolates, snack foods, jams and jellies, and non-alcoholic beverages.
The World Health Organization has listed hundreds of food types that may be processed using ammonium hydroxide when used in accordance with good manufacturing practices. These include dairy products, confections, fruits and vegetables, baked goods, breakfast cereals, eggs, fish, beverages such as sports drinks and beer, and meats.
GSFA Table 3 Provisions
Ammonium hydroxide is a food additive that is included in Table 3, and as such may be used in the following foods under the conditions of good manufacturing practices (GMP) as outlined in the Preamble of the Codex GSFA. Note that food categories listed in the Annex to Table 3 were excluded accordingly.
Number Food Category
Food Category Hierarchy 01.1.2 Dairy-based drinks, flavoured and/or fermented (e.g., chocolate milk, cocoa, eggnog, drinking yoghurt, whey-based drinks)
Food Category Hierarchy 01.3 Condensed milk and analogues (plain)
Food Category Hierarchy 01.4.3 Clotted cream (plain)
Food Category Hierarchy 01.4.4 Cream analogues
Food Category Hierarchy 01.5 Milk powder and cream powder and powder analogues (plain)
Food Category Hierarchy 01.6.1 Unripened cheese
Food Category Hierarchy 01.6.2 Ripened cheese
Food Category Hierarchy 01.6.4 Processed cheese
Food Category Hierarchy 01.6.5 Cheese analogues
Food Category Hierarchy 01.7 Dairy-based desserts (e.g., pudding, fruit or flavoured yoghurt)
Food Category Hierarchy 01.8.1 Liquid whey and whey products, excluding whey cheeses
Food Category Hierarchy 02.2.2 Fat spreads, dairy fat spreads and blended spreads
Food Category Hierarchy 02.3 Fat emulsions mainly of type oil-in-water, including mixed and/or flavoured products based on fat emulsions
Food Category Hierarchy 02.4 Fat-based desserts excluding dairy-based dessert products of food category 01.7
Food Category Hierarchy 03.0 Edible ices, including sherbet and sorbet
Food Category Hierarchy 04.1.2 Processed fruit
Food Category Hierarchy 04.2.2.2 Dried vegetables (including mushrooms and fungi, roots and tubers, pulses and legumes, and aloe vera), seaweeds, and nuts and seeds
Food Category Hierarchy 04.2.2.3 Vegetables (including mushrooms and fungi, roots and tubers, pulses and legumes, and aloe vera), and seaweeds in vinegar, oil, brine, or soybean sauce
Food Category Hierarchy 04.2.2.4 Canned or bottled (pasteurized) or retort pouch vegetables (including mushrooms and fungi, roots and tubers, pulses and legumes, and aloe vera), and seaweeds
Food Category Hierarchy 04.2.2.5 Vegetable (including mushrooms and fungi, roots and tubers, pulses and legumes, and aloe vera), seaweed, and nut and seed purees and spreads (e.g., peanut butter)
Food Category Hierarchy 04.2.2.6 Vegetable (including mushrooms and fungi, roots and tubers, pulses and legumes, and aloe vera), seaweed, and nut and seed pulps and preparations (e.g., vegetable desserts and sauces, candied vegetables) other than food category 04.2.2.5
Food Category Hierarchy 04.2.2.8 Cooked or fried vegetables (including mushrooms and fungi, roots and tubers, pulses and legumes, and aloe vera), and seaweeds
Food Category Hierarchy 05.0 Confectionery
Food Category Hierarchy 06.3 Breakfast cereals, including rolled oats
Food Category Hierarchy 06.4.3 Pre-cooked pastas and noodles and like products
Food Category Hierarchy 06.5 Cereal and starch based desserts (e.g., rice pudding, tapioca pudding)
Food Category Hierarchy 06.6 Batters (e.g., for breading or batters for fish or poultry)
Food Category Hierarchy 06.7 Pre-cooked or processed rice products, including rice cakes (Oriental type only)
Food Category Hierarchy 06.8 Soybean products (excluding soybean-based seasonings and condiments of food category 12.9)
Food Category Hierarchy 07.0 Bakery wares
Food Category Hierarchy 08.2 Processed meat, poultry, and game products in whole pieces or cuts
Food Category Hierarchy 08.3 Processed comminuted meat, poultry, and game products
Food Category Hierarchy 08.4 Edible casings (e.g., sausage casings)
Food Category Hierarchy 09.3 Semi-preserved fish and fish products, including mollusks, crustaceans, and echinoderms
Food Category Hierarchy 09.4 Fully preserved, including canned or fermented fish and fish products, including mollusks, crustaceans, and echinoderms
Food Category Hierarchy 10.2.3 Dried and/or heat coagulated egg products
Food Category Hierarchy 10.3 Preserved eggs, including alkaline, salted, and canned eggs
Food Category Hierarchy 10.4 Egg-based desserts (e.g., custard)
Food Category Hierarchy 11.6 Table-top sweeteners, including those containing high-intensity sweeteners
Food Category Hierarchy 12.2.2 Seasonings and condiments
Food Category Hierarchy 12.3 Vinegars
Food Category Hierarchy 12.4 Mustards
Food Category Hierarchy 12.5 Soups and broths
Food Category Hierarchy 12.6 Sauces and like products
Food Category Hierarchy 12.7 Salads (e.g., macaroni salad, potato salad) and sandwich spreads excluding cocoa- and nut-based spreads of food categories 04.2.2.5 and 05.1.3
Food Category Hierarchy 12.8 Yeast and like products
Food Category Hierarchy 12.9 Soybean-based seasonings and condiments
Food Category Hierarchy 12.10 Protein products other than from soybeans
Food Category Hierarchy 13.3 Dietetic foods intended for special medical purposes (excluding products of food category 13.1)
Food Category Hierarchy 13.4 Dietetic formulae for slimming purposes and weight reduction
Food Category Hierarchy 13.5 Dietetic foods (e.g., supplementary foods for dietary use) excluding products of food categories 13.1 – 13.4 and 13.6
Food Category Hierarchy 13.6 Food supplements
Food Category Hierarchy 14.1.4 Water-based flavoured drinks, including “sport,” “energy,” or “electrolyte” drinks and particulated drinks
Food Category Hierarchy 14.2.1 Beer and malt beverages
Food Category Hierarchy 14.2.2 Cider and perry
Food Category Hierarchy 14.2.4 Wines (other than grape)
Food Category Hierarchy 14.2.5 Mead
Food Category Hierarchy 14.2.6 Distilled spirituous beverages containing more than 15% alcohol
Food Category Hierarchy 14.2.7 Aromatized alcoholic beverages (e.g., beer, wine and spirituous cooler-type beverages, low alcoholic refreshers)
Food Category Hierarchy 15.0 Ready-to-eat savouries
Food Category Hierarchy 16.0 Composite foods – foods that could not be placed in categories 01 – 15
i knew it. the two cheeseburger meal is fine. gotta admit no way i can eat a mcnugget now. right or wrong the brain has been altered.
lol…Agreud.
Hahaha
I just know wood is reading his information wrong, but I don’t care enough to dispute.
Well, you asked. There you go. Likely every restaurant in America has Ammonium Hydroxide in the food.
Per yer own article, “will stop using ammonium hydroxide, a common ingredient in cleaning solutions that’s dubiously dubbed “pink slime,”
If ammonium hydroxide is pink slime, as the article states it is, then I think you are going to have a really really hard time disputing that it is not in “all restaurants.”
Manipulated Public Opinion Trumps Real Science – Again
But back to the damage that Oliver created. He demonstrated how “70 percent” of America’s ground beef contains leftover cow parts (aka “pink slime”) containing E. coli and Salmonella that has been treated with ammonia. Seventy percent seems a little high, I’m sure BPI founder Eldon Roth would be delighted with that share of market and I know most food safety advocates would love the results.
And saying those “leftover cow parts” contain E. coli and Salmonella is taking gross liberties with the truth. OK, let’s call it what it is: A lie written for maximum emotional impact. Even if some very small percentage was contaminated, the food safety practices used by BPI would quickly identify the problem and their process would eradicate any pathogens.
BPI was the first company to hold and test for the “Big Six” E. coli pathogens, for instance, announcing the decision on July 14, 2011, well before the announced FSIS mandated deadline of March 5, 2012. In a press release a company spokesman said, “This first-of-a-kind action is part of the company’s ‘hold and test’ quality assurance program through which BPI samples its lean beef prior to sale, holds the lean beef, and tests for the presence of pathogens. Only after determining the test results are negative will beef be sold or used for raw ground beef.”
Keith Nunes, executive editor of Food Business News, writing for Meat&Poultry magazine, said “due to negative publicity, the company that once promoted the fact its boneless lean beef is used in the hamburgers manufactured for most of the nation’s major fast-food chains has seen some of those customers tell their suppliers to stop using the Beef Products lean beef. Negative publicity about the company’s process and the use of the compound ammonium hydroxide, a critical component of the process, is at the heart of Beef Products’ recent challenges.”
Opponents would have you believe that large vats of contaminated beef are drowned in household ammonia at BPI and then masticated into a chemical goo that’s hidden in meat patties that are being force-fed to innocent children in school lunch programs.
Nunes pointed out that the meat is exposed to “ammonium hydroxide, designated as ‘generally recognized as safe’ for use in food by the Food and Drug Administration in 1974 and it has been used as a leavening agent in baked foods as well as a way to manage the pH in many types of food products since then.”
BPI has been upfront about the safety process and the scientific review that went into evaluating its effectiveness as a food safety tool. Its processes and products have received accolades by many people in the food safety arena. Nancy Donley, the founder of Safe Tables Our Priority (STOP) and one of the most well-known and respected observers of the food industry, praised Eldon Roth and his work at BPI when she helped inaugurate him into the Meat Industry Hall of Fame in November.
Stating some of the science behind the process, Nunes wrote, “Ammonium hydroxide is naturally found in proteins such as beef, pork and chicken. What the Beef Products process does is increase the amount of ammonium hydroxide in the lean beef to elevate its overall pH and make the product inhospitable to the survival of pathogens such as E. coli O157:H7 and Salmonella.”
One of the unfortunate side effects of being an ardent conservative is cement head condition.
In my experience, more often than not, where there is smoke, there is most certainly fire. In this case, MCD is one giant plume of smoke.
At a minimum, eating fried foods and red meat is bad for you, backed by REAL scientific studies with regards to cancer/heart disease.
Just move the goal posts then…
I never said eating fried foods and red meat WASN’T bad.
Well, that has always been my primary beef with MCD. Couple that with the abhorrent food and I have a vendetta.
I don’t begrudge you the vendetta. It is unhealthy to eat there often.
You shouldn’t let him off so easy, Wood. He’s railing against alleged “conservative” cement headedness while falling for every liberal shibboleth that hits the pike (or more likely, the cocktail party circuit).
The next thing you know he’ll be carrying a poster for anthropomorphic global warming, caused by pink slime.
“Conservative” generally means that you have a healthy skepticism for alarmism and that you give tested theories and information more weight than the newer bullshit.
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Well, he is the blogfather, Jake. I don’t want to wake up with a bloody chicken head on my bed.
You can at least take heart that it will be a free-range, grass fed chicken, that had the wind in its wattles for a short time, at least.
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That’s the issue Jake. Likely it will be a Purdue or Tyson chicken. The Blogfather is likely supporting industrialized poultry farming. Chickens raised for meat may be sold as “free-range” if they have government certified access to the outdoors. The door may be open for a few minutes and the farm still qualifies as “free-range.”
In order to be “grass fed” they must have unfettered access to grass.
In reality, grass fed and free range are not the same. A grass fed chicken will necessarily be free range while a free range chicken may not be grass fed.
I’ll leave it up to Horatio Clawchicken to enlighten us as to whether he is supporting industrialized poultry farming, or not.
Holy Shit, “Horatio Clawchicken.”
That’s gold, Wood.
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Oh, an I can guarantee you the restaurants I eat at do not have these chemicals on their meat.
You’re right. They_are_in_the_meat. Fly, seriously, ammonium hydroxide occurs naturally in meat.
Not to mention your restaurants have it in their breads, cheeses, deserts, jeez, just look at the list a few comments above.
But don’t forget that it NH3 occurs naturally in meat.
Q: What is ammonium hydroxide?
A: Ammonium hydroxide is ammonia combined with water. Ammonia (NH3) is a compound consisting of nitrogen and hydrogen. Both ammonia and ammonium hydroxide are very common compounds, found naturally in the environment (in air, water, and soil) and in all plants and animals, including humans. Ammonia is a source of nitrogen, an essential element for plants and animals. Ammonia is also produced by the human body – by our organs and tissues and by beneficial bacteria living in our intestines.
Ammonia plays an important role in protein synthesis in the human body. In brief summary, all living things need proteins, which are comprised of some 20 different amino acids. While plants and microorganisms can synthesize most amino acids from the nitrogen in the atmosphere, animals cannot. For humans, some amino acids cannot be synthesized at all and must be consumed as intact amino acids. Other amino acids, however, can be synthesized by microorganisms in the gastrointestinal tract with the help of ammonia ions. Thus, ammonia is a key player in the nitrogen cycle and in protein synthesis. Ammonia also helps maintain the body’s pH balance.”
Flyseph, you’ve been duped by HuffPo… I won’t tell anyone though.
BINGO!
You just discovered the source of your own skepticism. You are so programmed to be against anything that is supported by traditional liberal values that you reject it and find ways to support your argument. We are talking levels not the existence of something naturally.
I see this a lot in GOP’ers. Seek reform my friend, else you might end up like JAKEGINT one day.
lol…my skepticism is due to your blind rage against McDonald’s. Anytime something is pursued with such vigor, albeit blind vigor, there is likely some programming behind it that will not allow one to see the true complexities. In your case, you are railing against a compound which occurs naturally in beef and is needed by the human body to be healthy, simply because somebody decided it sounded like a bad chemical and because it is McDonald’s, and they are like, evil or something, and you also happen to hate them.
I am not a conservative. I am against the entire and total platform for their social policy, and against a lot of their fiscal platform.
I am a skeptic who hates dogma. Unfortunately, this pink slime stuff falls into the realm of liberal dogma, imho.
You are a southerner and by default conservative, even if you think you are progressive. Ha! I chuckle even thinking about progressives from S Carolina.
My blind rage, as you call it, is an expression of grave concern for the health of fellow Americans. In case you are unaware, we have record fat fuckers, diabetics, cancer, liver disease and heart disease. This is not by accident.
SOMETHING IS IN THE FUCKING FOOD AND I GUARANTEE MCD ISN’T HELPING MATTERS with their industrialized horse shit.
I am definitely not a progressive.
I agree with your grave concern for the health of fellow Americans.
I keep telling you to watch Food Inc. Have you watched it yet? Netflix it tonight. Then get back to me. Your laser-like focus is causing you to miss the forest for the trees.
Here is the deal – its all industrialized. As I’ve said two time previously, unless your food is coming from a local source, that is your meat and veggies, you are supporting the industrialization. Back up and take a look from 30,000 feet.
Next time you are in Virginia, we’ll fix you a meal with our co-op vegetables and meat. You won’t believe the difference in flavor.
“Progressives” for the most part, are morons, no offense.
Seriously, to think someone from Black Top, NYC has any legitimacy to speak about the food chain with which he/she has zero experience… it’s to laugh.
The fact is, there is no point in history where food has been safer, or more abundant.
This reminds me of the idiot liberals in this state complaining about “mountain top removal” two weeks after ending their moaning about deep hole mining.
It’s because they “care” for the benighted folk of Eastern KY, of course… “Get back in that hole, Eustace!”
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And wtf are “traditional liberal values?”
The one constant of the progressive liberal as defined by the German school is that there are no traditions, and there are few long standing values. It’s all “progress” you see, so you must “away” with the auld, and on with the new, new, new!
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