Alright, Let’s Talk Some Fucking Gun Control

My twitter stream lit up with NRA criticism today, which was then mostly accentuated by a combination of political pundits, network anchors, and, for some unknowable reason, finance types.

You railed endlessly against the NRA position that, maybe, the real problem is that we filter our kids into defenseless buildings with 25:1 ratios of adolescents to adult supervision. You called them heartless murdering bastards for not recommending the preferred solution to gun violence in America: a magic wand that makes all guns go away.

And what was the one constant attribute you all seem to possess?

You’re all living in New York, NY.

Has it ever dawned on you that you are making recommendations of gun control while literally living on an island? And not just any island, I would add. You live on the most fucking reinforced, police monitored island on the goddamn planet.

Every day, all commuters pass through a handful of highly monitored access points. Every day, one of the most vigilant police forces in the country (who operate not just in NY, but now in secret safe houses across America) performs hundreds of random channel checks on you or people like you without anyone realizing it.

I’m guessing that plays a huge part in New York City’s relatively safe streets; likely more than New York State’s ridiculously unreasonable gun laws do.

With 300 million some odd weapons in circulation, where else in the US do you plan on implementing these awesome gun control policies? I’d be very interested to hear the answer to that; particularly from Mayor Bloomberg.

You could use New York City’s variety of gun control in one other state, maybe…Florida. Build a fucking wall of security and box it off. Possibly Michigan, I guess, if you promise we can double the wall as a precaution to keep those asshole Ohioans out.

And one other thing; explain to me how any of the suggestions I’ve heard about limiting gun sales and taking guns off the market changes the fact that there are 300 million weapons in circulation today.

If you banned all the semi-automatic weapons in America, this 20 year old psycopath’s mom still would have had one. He still would have taken it and shot her. And the school would still have been completely unguarded for him to waltz in and snuff those 20 defenseless kids out at near-point blank range.

The teachers, completely restricted from carrying any form of personal protection (don’t give me that bullshit about handing guns to kids, there are no CCL permits available to anyone that young), would still have been shot to death.

So I ask you; what are we supposed to do between banning new sales of these weapons (which is the ONLY suggestion, even coming from Feinstein) and the time when the last of those that are in circulation finally breaks down?

Don’t worry, these shootings will stop after we hit the gun manufacturers. In just a hundred years or so…

17 Responses to “Alright, Let’s Talk Some Fucking Gun Control”

  1. The one sensible, actionable recommendation I’ve heard would be to require background checks of anyone residing with a gun purchaser. If you live with someone who is mentally ill, having a gun in the vicinity is a bad idea.

    Full gun confiscation or 100% participation in a government gun buyback is a fairy tale, policy proposals that are public masturbation of a high and dull-witted order

    • I disagreed with almost everything he had to say, but one idea I did like from the Reformed Broker was recognition technology to secure a weapon.

      Although that opens the question; if the weapon can be secured against anyone but you, can the same technology be used to secure it against you?

      Plus, it does nothing to fix the issue that there are 300 million weapons in circulation today.

      • There is almost no addressing the existing weapons through policy as far as I can see. The whole point of outlier events is that they’re freaky. Background checking for the unstable in the homes of gun buyers could help prevent future disasters and would be an easy add on to existing procedures.

        To put a lid of whatever sort of all existing weapons, you’d basically have to use totalitarian means of forced compliance plus aggressive surveillance to identify who’s not playing along, then go visit them unannounced. Not feasible nor desirable.

        • I agree with the mental checks; and honestly, I would even mind if they put in place some training/clearance to purchase the semiauto, high capacity magazine weapons.

          You have to get a license to carry a gun. Some reasonable training seminars isn’t too much to ask to buy some of the weapons on the market.

          But this “oh we’ll ban all the semiautomatic weapons…”

          “Pal, before last week, you didn’t know what a semiautomatic weapon was…”

  2. Machine guns were outlawed in 1934 and there are no machine gunning massacres today. The semi-automatic rifle requires a trigge pull for each round. The Assault Rifle is a semi-automatic with cosmetics to make it look like a military weapon.

    Newtown was a black swan event. There are 67,000 elementary schools in the US
    http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84
    These events are extremely rare. This was a perfect storm of circumstances. A mother with a bunch of guns?!!? and a mentally or emotionally challenged son. She was probably in denial about his condition. How do you get through that circumstance? He probably did her a favor by killing her first. Imagine living after a child of yours has committed such an event.

    Luckily these events are extrement rare in the western world. That doesn’t lessen the tragedy for those involved, and the sadness for the rest of us who have to learn of such events.

    • Straight Shooter

      The events are rare. We just have a very organized, paid-for media propaganda machine that will take the smallest incident and blow it up into a full-blown propaganda opportunity.

      The same day the school shooting happened, dozens of children the world over were murdered by the actions of the US Govt, operating on your hard-earned taxpayer money.

      The media never reported anything about that. Wonder why?

  3. Straight Shooter

    Oooooohh those shootings! I sees them on the TV and they hurt my lil sensibilities. How can we ever ever ever ever let this sort of thing happen to people?

    I pay my taxes and the vast majority of those go toward killing millions of innocent people in other countries that my TV tells me are really bad people who deserve that.

    My lil panties are all in a knotsie. How does one cope? I want me Mommy Government to take the gun nasties away. All of them. Now!!!! Waaaaa!!!!!

    • I don’t think there was anywhere near “millions of innocent” people killed by the US in other countries. Not unless you go back several decades (Vietnam, Korea, WW2 cumulative) and add them all up. In a sense I agree with you, but lets keep the numbers real.

    • Even if a billion innocent people die in a war in 3 days. It’s a war. Those are foreigners.

      These are 6 year olds. American 6 year olds. 6 year olds man. 6 year olds. One more time… 6 year olds. Our people. The fact that you feel their deaths are justified because of casualties from WARS is simply disgusting. The majority of civilian deaths in wars are accidents. This was deliberate. You are a miserable and ignorant person.

  4. The San Francisco mayor is backing the outlawing of hollow point rounds as “gun control”. Get his logic: the rounds were designed for police use and not for ordinary San Franciscans. So “ordinary” (lesser) citizens don’t deserve to possess stopping power when confronting a deadly threat. Plus those solid-only rounds fired defensively inside the home won’t disintegrate against the walls, they can penetrate better and do potential collateral damage outside. What a blithering idiot the people of SF have elected for themselves.

    • Yep, defensive ammo is much safer, prevents collateral damage.

    • And that is what has me worried…..We have a bunch of blithering idiots who know nothing about firearms being driven by the media as horses before a chariot.
      Nothing good or worthwhile will come of this.

  5. Awesome post MCT. Most of the people who want to ban guns or impose unreasonable regulations have never even fired a gun, let alone went hunting, or likely even fishing. They are so completely removed from the reality that is rural America that they simply cannot comprehend how utterly clueless they truly are.

    Jeez. I wonder what rural Americans would choose to ban if it would affect mainly people living in a large city or metropolis?

    • I’d ban fluoride in water treatment centers – mainly because there’s this low murmur of people bitching about how “they” are using fluoride in water treatment, and it would be hilarious to watch an entire city eat their words via horrific stomach flu.

    • Some of the most dangerous people and situations I have ever been involved with have resulted from the actions of people who do not know what they do not know.

  6. Currently, my guns gather alot of dust and I shoot them maybe once a year. However, we will all need our guns for defense and offense in the coming years. When the government has to start backing up on all of the food stamps and free shit, those folks will be coming for your stuff…that will be their job.

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Alright, Let’s Talk Some Fucking Gun Control

My twitter stream lit up with NRA criticism today, which was then mostly accentuated by a combination of political pundits, network anchors, and, for some unknowable reason, finance types.

You railed endlessly against the NRA position that, maybe, the real problem is that we filter our kids into defenseless buildings with 25:1 ratios of adolescents to adult supervision. You called them heartless murdering bastards for not recommending the preferred solution to gun violence in America: a magic wand that makes all guns go away.

And what was the one constant attribute you all seem to possess?

You’re all living in New York, NY.

Has it ever dawned on you that you are making recommendations of gun control while literally living on an island? And not just any island, I would add. You live on the most fucking reinforced, police monitored island on the goddamn planet.

Every day, all commuters pass through a handful of highly monitored access points. Every day, one of the most vigilant police forces in the country (who operate not just in NY, but now in secret safe houses across America) performs hundreds of random channel checks on you or people like you without anyone realizing it.

I’m guessing that plays a huge part in New York City’s relatively safe streets; likely more than New York State’s ridiculously unreasonable gun laws do.

With 300 million some odd weapons in circulation, where else in the US do you plan on implementing these awesome gun control policies? I’d be very interested to hear the answer to that; particularly from Mayor Bloomberg.

You could use New York City’s variety of gun control in one other state, maybe…Florida. Build a fucking wall of security and box it off. Possibly Michigan, I guess, if you promise we can double the wall as a precaution to keep those asshole Ohioans out.

And one other thing; explain to me how any of the suggestions I’ve heard about limiting gun sales and taking guns off the market changes the fact that there are 300 million weapons in circulation today.

If you banned all the semi-automatic weapons in America, this 20 year old psycopath’s mom still would have had one. He still would have taken it and shot her. And the school would still have been completely unguarded for him to waltz in and snuff those 20 defenseless kids out at near-point blank range.

The teachers, completely restricted from carrying any form of personal protection (don’t give me that bullshit about handing guns to kids, there are no CCL permits available to anyone that young), would still have been shot to death.

So I ask you; what are we supposed to do between banning new sales of these weapons (which is the ONLY suggestion, even coming from Feinstein) and the time when the last of those that are in circulation finally breaks down?

Don’t worry, these shootings will stop after we hit the gun manufacturers. In just a hundred years or so…

17 Responses to “Alright, Let’s Talk Some Fucking Gun Control”

  1. The one sensible, actionable recommendation I’ve heard would be to require background checks of anyone residing with a gun purchaser. If you live with someone who is mentally ill, having a gun in the vicinity is a bad idea.

    Full gun confiscation or 100% participation in a government gun buyback is a fairy tale, policy proposals that are public masturbation of a high and dull-witted order

    • I disagreed with almost everything he had to say, but one idea I did like from the Reformed Broker was recognition technology to secure a weapon.

      Although that opens the question; if the weapon can be secured against anyone but you, can the same technology be used to secure it against you?

      Plus, it does nothing to fix the issue that there are 300 million weapons in circulation today.

      • There is almost no addressing the existing weapons through policy as far as I can see. The whole point of outlier events is that they’re freaky. Background checking for the unstable in the homes of gun buyers could help prevent future disasters and would be an easy add on to existing procedures.

        To put a lid of whatever sort of all existing weapons, you’d basically have to use totalitarian means of forced compliance plus aggressive surveillance to identify who’s not playing along, then go visit them unannounced. Not feasible nor desirable.

        • I agree with the mental checks; and honestly, I would even mind if they put in place some training/clearance to purchase the semiauto, high capacity magazine weapons.

          You have to get a license to carry a gun. Some reasonable training seminars isn’t too much to ask to buy some of the weapons on the market.

          But this “oh we’ll ban all the semiautomatic weapons…”

          “Pal, before last week, you didn’t know what a semiautomatic weapon was…”

  2. Machine guns were outlawed in 1934 and there are no machine gunning massacres today. The semi-automatic rifle requires a trigge pull for each round. The Assault Rifle is a semi-automatic with cosmetics to make it look like a military weapon.

    Newtown was a black swan event. There are 67,000 elementary schools in the US
    http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84
    These events are extremely rare. This was a perfect storm of circumstances. A mother with a bunch of guns?!!? and a mentally or emotionally challenged son. She was probably in denial about his condition. How do you get through that circumstance? He probably did her a favor by killing her first. Imagine living after a child of yours has committed such an event.

    Luckily these events are extrement rare in the western world. That doesn’t lessen the tragedy for those involved, and the sadness for the rest of us who have to learn of such events.

    • Straight Shooter

      The events are rare. We just have a very organized, paid-for media propaganda machine that will take the smallest incident and blow it up into a full-blown propaganda opportunity.

      The same day the school shooting happened, dozens of children the world over were murdered by the actions of the US Govt, operating on your hard-earned taxpayer money.

      The media never reported anything about that. Wonder why?

  3. Straight Shooter

    Oooooohh those shootings! I sees them on the TV and they hurt my lil sensibilities. How can we ever ever ever ever let this sort of thing happen to people?

    I pay my taxes and the vast majority of those go toward killing millions of innocent people in other countries that my TV tells me are really bad people who deserve that.

    My lil panties are all in a knotsie. How does one cope? I want me Mommy Government to take the gun nasties away. All of them. Now!!!! Waaaaa!!!!!

    • I don’t think there was anywhere near “millions of innocent” people killed by the US in other countries. Not unless you go back several decades (Vietnam, Korea, WW2 cumulative) and add them all up. In a sense I agree with you, but lets keep the numbers real.

    • Even if a billion innocent people die in a war in 3 days. It’s a war. Those are foreigners.

      These are 6 year olds. American 6 year olds. 6 year olds man. 6 year olds. One more time… 6 year olds. Our people. The fact that you feel their deaths are justified because of casualties from WARS is simply disgusting. The majority of civilian deaths in wars are accidents. This was deliberate. You are a miserable and ignorant person.

  4. The San Francisco mayor is backing the outlawing of hollow point rounds as “gun control”. Get his logic: the rounds were designed for police use and not for ordinary San Franciscans. So “ordinary” (lesser) citizens don’t deserve to possess stopping power when confronting a deadly threat. Plus those solid-only rounds fired defensively inside the home won’t disintegrate against the walls, they can penetrate better and do potential collateral damage outside. What a blithering idiot the people of SF have elected for themselves.

    • Yep, defensive ammo is much safer, prevents collateral damage.

    • And that is what has me worried…..We have a bunch of blithering idiots who know nothing about firearms being driven by the media as horses before a chariot.
      Nothing good or worthwhile will come of this.

  5. Awesome post MCT. Most of the people who want to ban guns or impose unreasonable regulations have never even fired a gun, let alone went hunting, or likely even fishing. They are so completely removed from the reality that is rural America that they simply cannot comprehend how utterly clueless they truly are.

    Jeez. I wonder what rural Americans would choose to ban if it would affect mainly people living in a large city or metropolis?

    • I’d ban fluoride in water treatment centers – mainly because there’s this low murmur of people bitching about how “they” are using fluoride in water treatment, and it would be hilarious to watch an entire city eat their words via horrific stomach flu.

    • Some of the most dangerous people and situations I have ever been involved with have resulted from the actions of people who do not know what they do not know.

  6. Currently, my guns gather alot of dust and I shoot them maybe once a year. However, we will all need our guns for defense and offense in the coming years. When the government has to start backing up on all of the food stamps and free shit, those folks will be coming for your stuff…that will be their job.

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