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Tucker Carlson: ‘Our Laws Provide No Serious Protection From Being Spied Upon for Political Reasons’

Tucker Carlson tackled the subject of Susan Rice and privacy this evening — drawing a red line in the sand — proclaiming that ‘our laws provided no serious protections from being spied on for political reasons.’

Can anyone make an argument proving this to be a false statement?

All too often, lazy thinkers conclude that it is the right of government to spy on its citizens. Perhaps that is the case in Saudi Arabia or Canada, but it’s not supposed to be that way here. Either the promotional propaganda that lauds America’s democracy as being the ideal for representative forms of government are true or they aren’t. Providing the latter prevails, as it is now, no one will ever believe in the dream that was democracy — thanks to a cadre of corrupt mountebanks who’ve abused the goodwill of the American people and its systems for purposes of self-aggrandizement and a prevailing bias that wantonly eschews the liberty of its citizens — superseded only by a craven and insatiable appetite for power.

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31 comments

  1. heckler

    Totally fucked. They were spying on the 99 percent movement too. And probably spying on black lives matter.

    We don’t get another MLK figure if the gov’n spooks squash him out before he gets big.

    Just having this cell phone I take with me everywhere is scary. Let alone all my information and financials online…

    If we can’t trust the Constitution then we might as well burn the fucking thing and start over.

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    • moosh

      No chance any of this gets the time of day (if ever mentioned) once Killary skates in as guaranteed though, right?

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  2. reversion

    Don’t call people that are being spied upon…..

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  3. masteroneass

    It’s not actually total spying. They can just connect who is talking to who and when – not actual conversations. And as for total computer security and privacy it will never happen. Just like any envelope can be opened, and your house broken into even with locks. Hell even people have found their way into Bank Vaults. A computer is ultimately the same – so the only protection is to not put anything valuable on the or you computer (and if so then yes that should have the utmost protection). The best thing that can possibly come is a “smart lock”.

    This topic of conversation is getting entirely too old and out of hand.

    Besides – they really only care about the real bad guys and politicians love to spy on each other to get an advantage – this is like their entire life spying because they are somewhat psychotic usually. They know Stasi was a failure.

    Read the book Brain Web. Amazing piece of work.

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    • 'merica

      So you are saying that you might as well tuck your nuts and roll over because this is just normal, everything is fine.

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    • macpatton

      Normal not fine

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  4. ironbird

    That fucking horseshit Statue of Liberty will be melted down into a giant cock and balls. Then plated in pure gold. Sorry World. We are full until further notice. Post the mass deportation of all libtards that even think of libtardness in anyway. A new big beautiful Melania Statue of Americana will be built. It is over Commies.

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    • thinair

      Have you ever owned any stocks or real estate ever (your trailer doesn’t count)?

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    • bennyhill

      We are full all right – of morons. I can’t find the skills I need to hire because all of your red states have such terrible schools as well as principals, so we need to sponsor visas.

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      • BenCBrainard

        You can’t find skills you need to hire because , 1. your’re cheap 2. you blame you problems on outside forces instead of implementing creative solutions , 3. no one wants to work for bennyhill

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  5. m11s

    I’m not sure about “spying” specifically but all of the federal governments “unconstitutional” actions are technically completely legal. It involves a legal tactic the tech sector has made great use of, “default opt-in”. That’s not it’s legal name, but it conveys the idea. Legally their just contracts. But, just like with “shrink wrap contracts” and “click wrap contracts” in the tech world where presumptions are made under the law, presumptions are also made about your citizenship. Most people are completely unaware that there is both federal citizenship and state citizenship.

    “There is a distinction between citizenship of the United States and citizenship of a particular state, and a person may be the former without being the latter.” [Alla v. Kornfeld, 84 F.Supp. 823] [(1949)]

    Explore here for more info:

    http//sedm.org/Search/SubjectIndex.htm

    And specifically here for what I mentioned (start at p.39)

    (PDF) http://sedm.org/Forms/05-MemLaw/WhyANational.pdf

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    • 'merica

      Wow, did you read the gibberish that you posted? You sound like masterdumbass from above, probably the same loser posting twice under a different name.

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  6. juice

    Holy shit — this made the front page of the NY Times !!! ….. NOT ! 😉

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  7. juice

    James Madison, 1751 – 1836.
    4th US President from March 4, 1809 – March 4, 1817.
    Father of the US Constitution.

    “The means of defence against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”

    “If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”

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  8. traderconfessions
    traderconfessions

    Interesting that a president who honestly believes his privacy was invaded would repeal internet privacy regulations. Where’s your outrage on this act which impacts every American? Crickets.

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  9. bennyhill

    Why can’t I find any coverage of O’Reilly the sexual predator on any of the conservative new outlets? Hmmm.

    Meanwhile Assad is gassing children to death, a man fully supported by Putin.

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    • bennyhill

      Oh and it’s a coincidence that Assad does this right after Trump says he isn’t going to do shit about Syria.

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      • skulduggery

        There’s a bit more to it, isn’t there? Regime changes have not gone well.
        And who’s fault is it that there’s not more conservative news outlets, benny?

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  10. ferd

    If Trump’s campaign was spied on for political purposes as reported, it was illegal. Tucker is wrong and he should be calling for prosecutions, not providing cover.

    It is the normal course in DC to call for new laws instead of enforcing the ones one the books (e.g., Dodd/Frank).

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  11. sarcrilege

    How did Canada end up in the same sentence as Saudi Arabia? True, Canada just past Blasphemy legislation but the beheadings of Christians by muslim savages have not started yet.
    “……the right of government to spy on its citizens. Perhaps that is the case in Saudi Arabia or Canada,…”

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  12. traderconfessions
    traderconfessions

    Internet privacy repeal? Sac? Juice? Ironbirdie? Heckler? still crickets from cucks. You put the hyp in hypocrisy.

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    • BenCBrainard

      Why did he sign it?

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    • skulduggery

      The Progressives are the cucks for a reason. You just can’t just flip it around. It’s weak, man.
      I don’t trust any description of a bill coming from the Left.
      And who said anyone would agree on every single thing someone does? It doesn’t invalidate Trump. Nice try.

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      • sarcrilege

        The bill does not invalidate Trump but it sure makes him look like a hypocrite. On the other hand, we are our own worst enemies by being passive and always relying on others to act for our benefit. It is within our control to protect our own privacy by using encryption, VPN, Tor etc. and boycott Fakebook, google, iPhone, etc. And since we, as people, do not do any of that and are not vigilant, we deserve to be violated in the worst ways.

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    • BenCBrainard

      FCC Chairman Ajit Pai praised the repeal in a statement late on Monday for having “appropriately invalidated one part of the Obama-era plan for regulating the internet.” Those flawed privacy rules, which never went into effect, were designed to benefit one group of favored companies, not online consumers.”

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    • BenCBrainard

      Apparently Obama had a think for Facebook and Google. Tried to use government to increase their competitive advantage.

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  13. stockslueth

    It’s emerging that the last administration engaged in police state tactics. Intelligence gathering apparatus built to thwart terrorism was being used to attack political opponents. The resources employed to spy on political opponents could have been used against real threats to our country. It’s just all very disturbing and those responsible should be ashamed of themselves. I hope none of them are allowed to hold public positions ever again. They should receive a lifetime ban and if laws were broken, prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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  14. tradingnymph

    Wow Fed Lacker…not good at all.

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  15. traderconfessions
    traderconfessions

    Nobody likes to trash talk politics more than me but this Syria gas shit is real bad. Obama’s biggest mistake in office was not sending a cruise missile message to Assad about chemical weapons. He made a bad stock picker’s mistake.. not taking a trade because of a previous loss. Trump can’t make the same mistake in the name of isolationism. If hurling poison gas bombs is normalized then we are all fucked. This is not debatable. Let em fly Donald..now.

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