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$NFLX OPTION HOLDERS IN AFTER HOURS TRADE

If you played $NFLX into earnings with long calls or long puts…or even worse…a straddle or strangle (SHLONG) you are getting kicked down a flight of stairs here in After Hours trade.

For future reference, avoid buying any options with option premiums priced like a stock going into an FDA announcement. Unless you felt $NFLX was getting Phase 3 approval for their Netflix and Chill pill.

Even if this stock moved in your favor, you’d still lose money tomorrow.

Back later tonight,

OA

 

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36 comments

  1. danny_noonan

    I giggled pretty loudly reading this!

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  2. MSGT HARTMAN

    NFLX: P/E = 247 Beta = 1.4 I could never buy something like this.

    I draw the line at FB with 99 and .77 respectively but I may ditch it before long. The ride up has been too easy and $100 seems to cause problems.

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  3. k_melancon

    Futures seem to have found Viagra

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  4. kidstock

    Futures looking good tonite…ideal setup for the bulls tomorrow is for USD/JPY to recover all of its prior day losses.

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  5. jj

    -14.5% and then up 17% in an hour, rather be long than short premium for that but it’s a matter of style bc i trade stock against earnings bets though no position on this one. if long and had bought stock against said strangle or straddle after hours down even 9 or 10% and rode it back up you’d be in fine shape. option payouts are only hockey stick diagrams at expiration. anyone who sold straddles likely panicked and sold into the down 16%

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    • Option Addict

      I’d rather be long premium than short in general also. I was just referring to the fact that IV for NFLX is near all time highs.

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  6. JB

    After the earnings premium deflation tomorrow Oct16 NFLX options do look interesting. My bias is down but it wouldn’t hurt to put on a spread. Wait for open watch volume then trade accordingly. Small amount at risk for these kind of trades.

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  7. k_melancon

    I suspect all this is noise until the markets open

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  8. nocturne

    Today’s oil OpEx will likely correlate with April and July’s OpEx trading day. The OVX, a measure of oil volatility closed at 42.70 yesterday. That pretty much sits in between the OVX closings the day before April and July’s OpEx. In April, oil traded in a 3.8% range, traded down initially then rallied; finishing up. In July, USO traded in a 2.2% range, and traded straight down.

    In April, we were coming off the March low and preparing to consolidate in a range for 2 1/2 months before a trip to 37.75 on 8/24. In July USO pretty muched dropped 27% in a straight line with a few stops along the way.

    I am expecting close to July scenario and had bet accordingly at yesterday’s close. I will add to my short as we descend. My plan is negated if we have a day similar to April’s OpEx which likely suggests further consolidation. That is why I only started a 1/4 position toward’s yesterday’s close. Good luck all.

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    • nocturne

      In addition, the inventory number the day before in April and July had no bearing on the trading day. In April we had a slight build in inventory, In July we actually had a drawdown of 4 million barrels preceding Thursday’s selloff. The inventory number is usually noise. It’s the long term trend and technicals that count.

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    • zuul4

      I like that I have a counterpart in this trade. I went long oil yesterday, purchasing a good amount of UCO. My idea is this: the dollar is going lower, so commodities will go higher. That’s really it. Gold has caught a bid on this, and so has oil which should have tanked yesterday after retail sales.

      I believe all the fundamentals are just noise [heresy, I know], and I expect this dollar/oil idea to gain traction over the next two weeks.

      As for technicals, CL sits right on the trendline from the $38 low and has broken the downward trendline that started back in June of last year. It is now back under that longer term downward trendline, but not by much.

      Good lluck to you. Two weeks ago I was an oil bear myself, so I understand your position.

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      • Nocturne

        Some articles out this morning to support your position from Barclays and Walk St Examiner. MSM wants oil higher!

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        • Bchu

          Well, it’s noticeably lower this morning

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        • zuul4

          Read the Barclays. Basically just says that shale wells will expire at a quicker rate than is currently projected so oil prices will increase at a quicker rate between now and 2020, or something. I’m really not interested in the fundamentals here. I think they play into intraday movement [API slamming oil overnight], but I think prices should be supported and ultimately moved upward by a sinking dollar.

          Did not see the Wall St Examiner article.

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  9. mx2101

    A priced to perfection option is kind of like the housing market right now. A buyer might wonder where it goes from here, and what’s left in there for me?

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  10. Nocturne

    For you technical junkies, bullish inverted H & S was just negated a few minutes ago. I look to see how the Algos treat obvious patterns to help with my daily trading.

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    • Bchu

      Congrats Noc. Looks like you win with crude

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      • Nocturne

        Thx bchu. I’m on a roll with crude here so I wanna give back while I have a hot hand.

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    • Nocturne

      Double bottom just negated at 9:20 on /cl on the 5 min chart. Gotta let these capn obvious signals teigger before entering. Stil moving lower as of 9:23

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      • Nocturne

        Beat the Algos by realizing they cannot be imaginative. When I recognize one, I get aggressive.

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      • Nocturne

        By the above comment I mean if u wanna take a long shot. I’m still short & looking to add during market hour bounce

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        • Bchu

          So you think it’ll bounce huh? Every mini rallies this week gets sold off even harder

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          • Nocturne

            A reasonable r/r before the inventory number would around UWTI 10.24. Gotta use a 2% stop. Mental if you can. The Algos are relentless.

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  11. CDude

    So after $NFLX earnings, is FANG now FAG?

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  12. ydauction

    IBB drops even further.

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  13. traderconfessions
    traderconfessions

    OA.. do you have any data on how often the future indexes correctly predict the direction of the corresponding market for that day?

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