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And Away We Go

away we go

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It’s kind of an odd feeling, really. Seeing that I’ve been ranting about the U.S. unfunded liability overhang and its one logical solution, you’d think I’d be out there wagging my finger in peoples’ faces and doing a touchdown dance as our debt is (symbolically and politically, I know) downgraded from “pristine” once again, and the rout of the U.S. dollar is on in earnest.

Instead of taking great joy in $1,700+ gold and $40+ silver I’m seeing tonight, and preparing myself to buy others’ margin calls tomorrow morning, I’m sitting here more than a little bit numb.   This is still my country after all, and it’s still a punch in the gut to see it caught in a debt trap of its own construction.   Yeah, we saw it coming, and that’s why we’ve been building a fortress of gold and silver to shelter us.

But will it be enough?

I honestly don’t know.   For all I know, my miners will get waxed along with the rest of the market (if in fact the market doesn’t just head fake completely tomorrow).   My sturdy ETF’s might malfunction, my options might turn to gruel and even my physical might be tough to transfer if the President decides to go “Full Metal Franklin Delano” on us.    Let’s face it folks, it’s all fine and good to prepare financially, but we are entering into unchartered waters here, and it’s not like we’ve got Horatio Nelson at the wheel, here.

I really didn’t think we’d arrive at this hour this quickly — in 2011.  However, the combination of torpid growth and high unemployment have hit tax collections to such a degree that the current rates of spending have blown a hole in our debt capacity well before we expected in the mid 2000-teens.  There will be painful choices ahead that will make this summer’s kabuki theater play look like the first round of Let’s Make a Deal in comparison.

I don’t doubt they will include tax increases, and likely across the whole bulk of the citizenry.   There are just not enough wealthy people with taxable income around to bring us to any sort of solvency — even with massive cuts to the Federal budget.  No, we’re going to have to go back to the old ways — where everyone contributes at some level, and there are no more free-riders.  If you try to get this done on the back of “him behind that tree,” you will inspire nothing but enmity in the capital providers, which will in turn only drive our economy to darker depths.

I am hoping this shot across our bough will be enough to drive our politicians to a serious assessment of our national dent — both on and off-balance sheet.  If instead this opportunity is squanderd and the pols decide it’s more electorally profitable to scare old people into believing they’ll be left high and dry at the prospect of any reform, God help us all.

In an event, we should have a good day in the gold sector tomorrow.  I will be looking very closely at the action not only on the physical metals themselves (gold, silver, platinum), but also at the $HUI to keep an eye on the miners, and on AUY in particular.  It seemed to take a much lighter hit last week on the pullback, and that may mean it’s getting ready to really take off after that long consolidation.

Good luck to us all.

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37 comments

  1. pistilstamen

    Great post. Thanks for the insight.

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  2. JakeGint

    Thanks…. Gold +$61.40 (+3.69%)

    Silver +$1.98 (+5.16%) as of 2 am.

    Slainte.

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  3. drummerboy

    i for one never thought that i would see this in my lifetime. and the pols are safely tucked away on their vacations.where they should all stay,indefinitly. long and strong auy. thanks goldfinger

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  4. TeahouseOnTheTracks
    TeahouseOnTheTracks

    I think one can safely say that the way the deficit was handled by our elected officials will ultimately be deemed responsible for the end to this latest bull market.

    As Fly said earlier and as rehashed on Bloomberg … The US is Japan. The only way to avert the funnel is stimulus and we are now very limited with what we can do given the austerity ideology suddenly favored by those that are responsible in the first place. Just as Japan was limited due to their deficits, so are we now … and it’s clear that the “capital providers” have no intent to take the lead on spending/investment given the global economic slowdown other than potential buyouts of their competitors or faster growing businesses that fit their markets.

    I too fear that the miners will no longer benefit by the POG and have cut my holdings to just a few juniors that I intend to sell into this rally knowing full well that they are potential acquisition targets yet less likely to be acquired until they too see their market caps cut by the impending bear.

    I also think that buying “emerging market” etf’s is a fool’s game since they are entering bear markets as well and their growth from US and European consumers will be devastated. Their current growth rates will shrink a la items in your side view mirror.

    Seems that with QE3 on tap, treasuries still have 2 1/2 points to give up and munis my also prove worthy … other than that I’m hard pressed to find alternate places to hide …

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    • drummerboy

      i can agree to some extent on the much smaller juniors that could get eatin up by the sharks.but i wouldnt sell the miners short in any of this.after all they are the only ones doing the digging,grant it,we wont see parity between the price of product along with the company stock price.but a gss,or a gpl will do fine.you would need a rio,or bhp types to come in and start scarfing these miners up. even auy could be a candidate. for something like this that is going on.investors will be piling in whatever they will get there hands on from the little,to the large miners. look at the move in gold tonight.people are gonna “panic in” to this trade,for just the fear of missing the move like tonight. all i can feel right now is,haven help the usa,but it seems like no one cares anymore,”the new american scourge” the very people that make their own rules,and separate one’s for whom they govern. and that is what badly needs change.

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  5. francesco

    Jake do you think it’s time for gold to go exponential ? how would the miners follow ( or not , because of restarting of a bear market .. ? )

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    • Jakegint

      I don’t know about “exponential,” but if the Bernank keeps those presses going to combat “deflation” while at the same time our treasuries lose their “safe haven” status, we could see a perfect storm fle gold appear.

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  6. Woodshedder

    Jake, bough [sic].
    And yea, this is class warfare at its finest. The gov’t is saying, “Hey, see that rich guy over there, it is HIS fault.” They are hoping we don’t notice that it is the fault of the gov’t that they have overspent and over-promised.

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    • Juiceyfruit

      Mr Hyperbole; since when did the/this government blame it on the “rich” guy? And why is everyone coming to the defense of the “rich as fuck”? That said, that ain’t the problem in either case. Another distraction from real issues.

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      • drummerboy

        absolutely woodshedder,blame the rich as a distraction, but in the mean time, make it hard for anyone to seek out their dreams because you then become to distracted with survival mode mentality. because of the conditions now bestowed upon us and this nation. the murder hole has been dug, we are just getting forced closer to the edge one by one…..it already started

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      • JakeGint

        Bruce — I think Wood has it correct. He’s not “defending the rich” as much as he’s shining light on a deceitful practice called “hide the ball” that’s fronted by many in Congress.

        Their profligate ways could never be the reason why we’ve ballooning deficits, no. It has to be the fault of the milk cows who are not providing enough cream. The answer is always “turn the suction pumps up another notch.”

        It’s a failure of self-analysis, and it’s unsustainable. It’s time for Congress to grow up and take responsibility for it’s actions.

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  7. Juiceyfruit

    Jake, I’m not too impressed with SLW earnings; what’s your take?

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    • JakeGint

      Slowed production at a couple of mines. These guys miss numbers all the time. It’s about the reserves, not the earnings for these plays.

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  8. The Big Ragu

    Jake would you initiate a position in gold at these levels?

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    • Jakegint

      Very tough call. Hold breaking to new highs should say “yes,” technically, but I’d wait for a pullback given these extreme circumstances.

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  9. francesco

    started a position in auy and ego . thanks for your heads up jake

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    • JakeGint

      EGO is kicking ass and taking names, no?

      Must be some nervous Chinese out there. EXK is also ripping lungs.

      Probably a good opportunity to grab some SLW while they are still kicking it, Bruce.

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  10. GoodAsGold

    What about XG? They are down ~5% with no news.

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    • drummerboy

      5&6 have already panned out. and yes,i have this feeling bac will be no more.

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  11. Damnit

    Hey Jake,

    Any idea on Silver? Do you think it outperforms gold or stays where it is? I have read claims that a 14:1 ratio is possible, but I don’t see a reason for that.

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    • JakeGint

      It needs to catch up a little, but the G:S ratio has been expanding the last couple of days and that could continnue.

      Gold is up to 44x the price of silver, and it’s been as high as 72x in the past. I’d like to see 40x again.

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  12. Damnit

    I am talking longer term than a few days. Silver has wild swings on an intraday and weekly basis. Is there a compelling reason why someone would want silver over gold for the longer term, say months to years?

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    • JakeGint

      Gary Savage will tell you silver could get back to its old ratio (pre-20th century) of 16-1 silver to gold ounces. He says the industrial demand is there. I’m a bit skeptical of that, so I keep the 40-1 ratio on my dashboard and try to add or subtract according to that number.

      So in other words, I don’t see silver getting far away from gold at 40-1, so I don’t see silver being especially great in relation to gold over the long term.

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      • GoodAsGold

        As we eventually find our way back to sound money silver n gold should become the preferred medium of exchange once again which I think leaves some upside in silver relative to gold. It will be easier to buy your lunch, for instance, with a quarter oz of silver than a spec of gold right? Wouldn’t this help push the ratio down closer to the historical average?

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        • JakeGint

          That’s the far end of speculation, IMHO.

          For instance, I would really really doubt that we go back to gold and silver coinage. Too troublesome when you can carry “silver bits” which denominate your silver in 0’s and 1’s.

          (And your physical silver is in a vault somewhere, safe).

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  13. MX2101

    “one of these days Alice….” wait a minute, that might have been today.

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  14. Damnit

    “As we eventually find our way back to sound money silver n gold should become the preferred medium of exchange once again which I think leaves some upside in silver relative to gold. It will be easier to buy your lunch, for instance, with a quarter oz of silver than a spec of gold right? Wouldn’t this help push the ratio down closer to the historical average?”

    I believe that if this “sound money” proposition were to come to fruition, we would need a period of utter chaos leading up to its adoption. If that were to happen, I highly doubt your gold or silver coins would do you any good against the gangs of gun touting thugs that would troll through every neighborhood in search of food and treasure.

    I still don’t see why silver would outperform gold over the long haul. Gold seems to move slower, but more methodically. I will therefore be placing my funds in DGP.

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  15. South of the Mason-Dixon
    South of the Mason-Dixon

    It was suggested that I look into PHYS for collecting an allocation of gold in a retirement account. I was advised not to pay over 6% premium given it’s a closed end fund. Anyway, Jake what is your thoughts on this fund? I’ve heard good and bad and am weighing my options.

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    • JakeGint

      Don’t know much about it. I know I wouldn’t want to pay a big premium over the POG for any paper security.

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  16. pat wilson

    AUMN?
    Long at 23. Holding on for “fundamental” value” as I understand the info from company. But the selling, with greater than average volume, at 20 down to 17 and the price action today has me banging my head. You had mentioned this company once. Your thoughts, please.
    Pat

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    • JakeGint

      Looks pretty damn oversold. They missed numbers and made a messy merger. Bad timing for those mistakes, market wise.

      I may look at it tomorrow, though.

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