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Okay, The End Is Nigh

I just looked at Towers Watson (TW) stock. Look at that valuation, then look me in the eye and tell me this rally isn’t a bubble.

Do you even know what TW does? I do – because I used to be in the industry. It’s an actuarial firm; imagine all the employee compensation of a performance investment bank, but with none of the leverage or scalable business to ever make the big returns even possible, trading like a tech stock in the 90’s.

At least a third of Watson Wyatt and Towers Perrin (before they merged and consolidated) was – get this – pensions. As you can imagine, the fascinating and exciting business of fixed income securities is just a booming source of revenue growth nowadays…

Wait, no, sorry. Pensions is actually a hole that at these interest rates will eventually swallow whatever it touches. That’s what I meant to say.

I’m sure TW is getting some good business from the healthcare deal. Hell I know I am on the consultant side. But there is no way there’s enough growth taking place here to justify a 30 PE ratio. That’s insane.

Towers Watson employees are highly trained, high cost employees that expect massive bonuses when they contribute. The business is intellectual capital driven – outside of the minds of the employees, it’s just a bunch of Excel spreadsheets and some office equipment. The company can’t even take a position that could possibly result in a massive payoff like banks sometimes do; it’s a permanent fixture in consulting circles. Any big performance gets eaten up in employee performance compensation – $400,000 salaries come from somewhere.

You people are out of your minds. I will begin to ease into a larger cash position with the next low volume melt up. This ends in fire.

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5 comments

  1. i Bergamot

    Ditto

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  2. 6society

    Are you calling a top Cain, or garden variety pullback? I’m hedged with spy puts as vol is cheap, but there seems to always be someone to buy even the shallowest dip

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    • Mr. Cain Thaler

      That would depend on the pullback. I just want to see some people get smoked. There is no reason for a stock like TW to trade like it has been.

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  3. maracka flocka

    I am seeing a lot of investing threads pop up on Internet forums that didn’t pop up 1-2 years ago. The fly seems to be on to something with his theory of a flat Jan, followed by a short killing Feb, followed by the grande finale top in March.

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  4. William

    Lots of sellside reports projecting 40 million or more members enrolled in private exchanges (run by AON, MMC and TW). PM’s tend to pee themselves when they hear growth stories like that (who cares if it’s 2018 we’re talking about, let me have that TW stock!!)

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