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Comcast Bought Me a New Television

For the back story, see this post: Comcast’s Negligence Killed My Television.

Yesterday I received a check from Comcast’s insurance company, Liberty Mutual. I was reimbursed for the cost of replacing my fried TV plus sales tax, as well as the two charges for diagnosing the problem with the TV. In general, I am very pleased and feel that Comcast rectified the situation. However, were it not for this bully pulpit of a blog, the situation may not have ended in my favor.

When I last wrote about this incident, I tweeted the provocative post to @ComcastCares and to several of Comcast’s twitter representatives. Thanks to some of my dear readers, the tweet was re-tweeted, and within a few minutes, the main page of @ComcastCares twitter feed was at least half full with the words “Comcast’s Negligence Killed My Television.”

I was at work the next morning when I got a call from Comcast. A gentleman from the local office was on the phone, and he was very friendly. After explaining what happened to my TV, he said that he wanted to call Comcast’s insurance company. I asked when he would be dispatching technicians to properly ground the CATV line, and he seemed to be completely unaware that the line was improperly grounded. Either he was playing dumb, or he truly was not aware of my blog post with all the pictures. My suspicion is that he received orders from above to take care of my problem, but was probably given very little background information. He promised to have a technician come out the same day. Finally, he asked if he could call me back on a 3-way call with their insurance company on the line. I agreed, and a few minutes later he was on the line with a Liberty Mutual agent. I quickly received a claim number and was told to call Liberty Mutual the next day.

I came home from work a little early, and sure enough, a Comcast technician was in the yard, pulling cable from a spool. He was a decent fellow, but made the mistake of mentioning to me that the line was “grounded to the copper pipes.” I wasted no time in telling him that the copper pipes were fed by a PVC pipe, and were therefore not grounded. He said that the copper pipes were likely bonded to the whole-house ground. I told him that if that were the case, the national electrical code required a second ground, with the recommendation being a grounding rod, EVEN if the copper pipes were bonded to the whole house ground. His response was, “Don’t worry, I’m going to ground it right.” I left to meet my family at the pool. I did not crawl back under the house and check his work. My suspicion, based on the amount of wire he was pulling, was that he ran a grounding wire to the whole house ground.

Anyway, I’ll skip some minor details here and cut to the chase. Liberty Mutual was very friendly and fairly efficient. There was a one-week delay while they were waiting to hear back from Comcast to authorize payment. I called Comcast and expressed my displeasure at having to wait, and they sent an email to my local guy, the one who had initially called me. Once he returned to the office (it seems he was on vacation or had some time off), he authorized Liberty Mutual to pay, and things moved very quickly. Liberty asked me what the TV was retailing for, and I pulled up Best Buy’s website and told them. I then asked to be reimbursed for the charges to diagnose the TV. The representative readily agreed. I do not think she even checked to see if the replacement costs I quoted were accurate. She seemed to cut the check while we were on the phone, and several days later, it was in my mailbox.

When I went to Best Buy tonight to buy the new TV, it was on sale for $100 less than I quoted Liberty. Score.

I’m still waiting on the part to fix the old TV. It will cost between $150-$200.00. All suppliers are out of stock and are saying they will not have the part until September.

I know for a fact that other neighbors lost TVs on the same night I did. One neighbor lost three. All were fried via the cable line. Not a single neighbor that I know of filed a damage claim with Comcast. I figure that is the norm, and that is why Comcast may not spend the time grounding their lines correctly. Article 820 of the National Electrical Code, ANSI/NFPA No. 40, provides guidance for correct grounding.

Thanks to all of the folks who offered advice and shared their cable company horror stories. When dealing with gargantuan corporations, social media now makes it very easy to get one’s voice heard. With the click of a mouse, one can publish some pictures or recount an unfavorable situation to thousands of potential customers. A blog post with a smart title may get listed on the first page of search engine results. This reality is a game-changer, and the Davids of the world no longer have to rely on simple slings to fight Goliath.

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22 comments

  1. Dr Fly

    iBC Wins Again

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  2. Woodshedder

    Indeud!

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  3. RaginCajun

    Nice win

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  4. TeahouseOnTheTracks
    TeahouseOnTheTracks

    Congrats … a well deserved win but I can’t help wondering if you’ll let your neighbors know of the outcome or if you had to sign a release promising not to “talk” …. Get any free service for the inconvenience?

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    • Woodshedder

      Nope. No NDAs required. I did not get any free service, primarily because when I was on the phone with Liberty, I was completely disarmed by how easy it was dealing with them. They asked how much the TV cost to replace, I told them. Asked how much to diagnose, and I told them. They never asked for receipts. They verified my address, and then it was done. Literally a minute or so. I was waiting for the attitude and stalling, whereby I was going to up the ante. It never happened, and I was celebrating before I realized I could have probably milked them for more. Anyway, that is my personality. I’m not much of a salesman, and I’m honest to a fault.

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      • Woodshedder

        And I have told all my neighbors. I think they are all too lazy, or really have no idea how to orchestrate such a maneuver.

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  5. MOOBER

    VICTORY

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  6. Bind Dead Aphid

    Power to the (IBC) People. Shrewd and reasonable negotiation.

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    • Woodshedder

      Agreud. In the immortal words of Sally (Peanuts), “All I want is my fair share. All I want is what I have coming to me.”

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  7. JakeGint

    Eggsellent, Smithers!

    _______

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  8. drummerboy

    i never had a doubt that you wouldnt get a new teevee. cool

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  9. ctb007

    Well Done, I am glad you twisted there arm and got what you deserved. On that note I got a letter yesterday from Direct TV. I am gonna put Comcast on furlough for 6 months and save some money.

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  10. Yogi & Boo Boo

    Nice job. Well done. We are undergoing their “digital conversion” in our area. Loose translation: Add another energy gobbling box to de-scramble useless channels that we rarely if ever watch, add another remote, lose local HD programming if we want to watch said useless channels, or add more splitters, cables, and adapters. I guess it’s better than 3 channels, rabbit ears, and snow, but should “simple” consumer technology be so complicated?

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    • Woodshedder

      Gotta keep the consumer focused on the latest and greatest or they won’t be able to continue raiding pocketbooks. Keep the people focused on keeping up with the Jones.

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      • Yogi & Boo Boo

        Those are the same people that buy “last quarter’s best performing mutual funds” and wonder why they always trail the market. Right? lol.

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  11. DaveinPhilly

    Wood,

    As I wrote to you previously, my house didn’t have any Comcast grounding at all. After reading your story and your research, Comcast came out last week and grounded my cable line to the electric power meter attached to the side of my house on the outside wall. That doesn’t sound like a proper ground to me. What do you think? Thanks!

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  12. Woodshedder

    Dave, I do not believe it is proper, not by itself, according to the National Electrical Code, although it is a common way to ground for cable companies. You’ll have to do a little research. I’m 99% sure that grounding ONLY to the power meter is not acceptable. I believe they will also need a grounding rod OR grounding to another acceptable electrode.

    “CATV Systems [Article 820]

    Earth Ground – The metallic sheath of CATV cable entering a building or structure must be grounded to the earth as close as practicable to the point of entrance to the building or structure [820-33]. The earth grounding is accomplished by bonding the CATV’s grounding block to an acceptable earth ground with a No. 14 or larger insulated copper conductor run in as straight a line as practicable to the earth [820-40(a)].

    Author’s Comment: CATV systems are often terminated at a location that is not near the electrical service, and since most new homes have nonmetallic water piping systems, CATV systems require that an insulated No. 14 grounding conductor run to an acceptable earth ground.”

    Dave, the question for you is whether the power meter ground counts as “an acceptable earth ground.” I would love to hear back from you as to whether it is, or isn’t. Good luck my friend! At least now you have the semblance of being grounded!

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  13. DMG

    Nice!
    When i first moved to town, i had comcrash. No joke, every time it rained i lost telephone and cable.
    Now i have Dish – but they all suck donkey duck.
    I yearn for the days when i had pirated cable in Crooklyn.

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  14. a6saylor

    Thanks for all of the detailed information. My second TV was fried today. i let the first one go because the lightning actually struck my neighbors house so I thought that might be enough juice to get me. i was curious as to why my cheapy surge protector wasn’t shot. I wondered if it could come in through the cable box. Hmm. two weeks later second TV 4th cable box overall (yeah i guess I am a slow learner) I googled it ended up here, went outside and found a ground wire hooked to nowhere. I just filed my damage claim. Cant decide if i should wait for them to pay for both or return this one now so i can watch DVDs at least. What do you think?

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    • Woodshedder

      I would put them on the hook for both TVs.
      Take pictures of everything, especially the ground wire going nowhere.
      Hard to say if they act fast or not. Do have a blog or anyway to put some heat on them? If you have a twitter account, put the pictures up using twitpics and tweet it to @comcastcares. You can add me too, @woodshedder, and then when you tweet it, I’ll retweet for you.
      If you need a TV, BestBuy has a 30 day return policy, and you don’t pay a restocking fee. Go ahead and pick one up, of course keep all the boxes and stuff, and then take it back once Comcast cuts you a check. Good luck, and keep us informed!

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      • a6saylor

        Thanks for getting back to me. I opened the damage claim on Wednesday and I have been living TVless while I wait “up to 3 business days” for a callback. I took pictures and I am going to tweet one to @comcastcares shortly, I’ll include you on that. Thanks for the advice and I’ll keep you posted.

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