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EFU Market Makers Say FU

I got a great fill this morning in [[EFU]] . Not actually. Some $%^& at the Pacific Exchange filled my order and 5 others at $163.92, or better than 8 points above the listed open.

I have to say that was not how I intended to hedge my longs.

I think that the Big Bamboo has racked up another loser, as it appears that EFU stopped out, having surpassed the 4% stop by about half a point.

For those of you who took this trade and didn’t get screwed by the market makers, It looks good going into tomorrow.

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10 comments

  1. Dan

    Yup, I got the same fill. My stop filled exactly 36 seconds later.

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  2. Woodshedder

    Dan, Scottrade does not allow orders to offset stops from the entry, so I’m still in the trade.

    I’m really sorry to hear you had the same problem.

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  3. B-rad

    count me in on that one too.

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  4. Kat

    Some of these ETFs have the worst MMs. SSO is another bad one.

    SDS is sorta decent, that guy has conscience.

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  5. Woodshedder

    Well hell, it seems a Pacific Exchange MM has had a little fun at our expense.

    For those who are mad that I don’t divulge more strategy trades, here is a good example why I don’t.

    Luckily, EFU is one of the most illiquid ETFs that the Big Bamboo will trade. You all may recall that Susan had some trouble with SCC a few weeks ago. It is also fairly illiquid.

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  6. Juice

    I might be missing something here but why didn’t you put in a limit order based on some 5 – 10 day intraday chart?

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  7. Woodshedder

    Juice the system is quick to enter and quick to exit and tests well with market orders. We have tested using limit orders on a similar system and they underperform. As I’ve noted previously, most slippage has been positive. It just seems that EFU and SCC have been giving us trouble.

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  8. FranklinBeenz

    Why didn't you use a limit order?

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  9. Woodshedder

    Limit orders did not perform as well in backtesting.

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  10. lol

    ouch… I entered shortly after open for 154

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