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Liveblogging the GOP Debate!

Reagan

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So far, the hero is Newt Gingrich.

No, really.  Gingrich just took it to the MSNBC Obama-stooge by refusing to comment on the silly (who cares?) “single mandate vs. no mandate” debate on Obamacare, pointing out that whether or not Romney had such a mandate in his individual state, everyone on the stage was united in declaring Obamacare a disaster.  He then administered the coup de grace by saying that unless Obama got up tomorrow and called for repeal of said Obamanation, he really didn’t give a schiessflappe at all about creating jobs in this country.

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Now Michele Bachmann starting a one-upsmanshipper talking about how she’ll end Obamacare in 2012.  Not quite clear on how the heck she’s going to be able to do that, unless she’s for early inauguration or something.

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Rick Santorum has zero shot for anything higher up than the Ambassador to Botswana in the next four years, but I have to give him some ups for that answer on the dignity of poverty program reformation.   Too many people have become “throw aways” in this country, thanks to the “I gave at the office” attitude that federal government top down poverty administration allows.

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Ron Paul is trying to “set the shiv” by gigging the front runner on some letter he wrote to Hillary 30 years ago.  What a loathsome homunculur move, Dr. Paul.   Newt is right — you asshats have to stop attacking each other and stay on message about how you have to defeat Obama.   Yeah, I know your pride is stung because you feel you aren’t getting enough time.  Get over it.  You are not going to win, you are too odd and too unlikeable.  Get with the program or get gone.   No one’s going to warm to your program if you become the nasty troll on the podium.  No one but the cellar bound 27-year olds living with their mamas, I mean.

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Oy, here’s Paul again attacking Perry on perhaps his worst move as Texas gubner — the HPV inoculation mandate.   Thankfully, Paul is so worked up he’s botching the delivery on his little leprechaun rant.   Michele Bachmann’s response — and bringing up the parental rights issue — is far more devastating thanks to it’s “nice girl” delivery.    Perry gets the “half-save” by saying he was looking to “save lives,” and there was an opt-out on the order.  Weak applause ensued, probably his immediate family.

Interestingly, Romney comes in and plays real nice on the vaccine issue.  Probably angling for the Veep spot.

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For some reason they are asking Santorum about voting for the Homeland Security Act.   Maybe they felt sorry for him?    Gingrich said they screwed up his plans.   Here comes Paul on the issue, and it’s red meat for him.   If Perry or Romney win the election, I hope they make him the TSA Scold Czar so he can rip that agency a new one daily.

Paul gets a question about FEMA and disaster aid, etc.  He sort of punts (wussily, I think) by saying, bring the troops home from Afghanistan and you can pay for Fema “or whatever.”

Lame.

Huntsman scores some easy points on the TSA, but then folds into “let’s not lose sight of the bottom line-jobs.”  I admire his straightforwardness, but he is too unctuous by half.  Sorry, I just don’t trust the bugger.

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Romney!  Nice points on the immigration issue.  MOST IMPORTANT is the “turn off the magnet” quote.  That’s the amnesty promise.  You cannot start with amnesty, and not have the border secured first.  Because, God love them, that only incents the most ambituious folks to bolt across the border hoping for … the NEXT amnesty.

Newt’s answers are pretty good too, and Santorum’s as well.   You need to keep the incentive for legal immigration in place.   We want immigration, but lets get it right.   Secure the border first, THEN worry about the people who are already here.

Michelle makes an uncharacteristic verbal flub about “ceding sovereignty” — or at least that’s what I think.

Meanwhile, this asshat from Politico is trying to get the Obama camp a scare quote for the Hispanic community by asking about the “11 million already here” over and over.  Sorry pal, no one’s going to talk about marching people back over the border this night.  Some of these MSM fuggers are so lacking in cleverness.

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Funny thing is, I was typing and listening and Huntsman was talking but I thought it was Perry.  Didn’t realize how much they sounded alike.

Ron Paul addressing the drug laws and immigration.  LOL.  He’s hitting on all the loopy libertarian issues tonight.   If we had a “healthy economy” we wouldn’t have this worry?  What?

Now he’s talking about the fence keeping people in the country, as if wealthy Americans are going to flee across the Rio Grande with their moneybags on their backs or something.  The man is a mite tetched (sorry Bruce).

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Romney and Michelle making good points about the former Congressional promises to cut spending with any tax increases and how Congress has continually lied about that issue, usually by putting off the cuts til “tomorrow” while taking the tax meal today.  Very good point, Michelle.

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Huntsman just shot himself in the feet with both barrels by claiming he won’t make any promises about taxation.  I get his answer, but he’s got no standing with the GOP base as Obama’s ambassador to China.  He’s got no “cred” outside maybe Utah, so his refusal to stake out that territory comes off as untrustworthy.   His Afghanistani ad lib was unnecessary and unhelpful as well.   He wants to use Special Forces alone?  You better get more Special Forces, then.

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Shockingly, the Politico Obama-stooge is drawing the long knives on Perry again, with his “Military Adventurism” question.   I don’t think that statement hurts Perry, even with Republican base voters, as they’d largely agree after 10 years in the Middle East and Afghanistan.   Maybe he’s trying to set him up with the other people.

Mrs. Gint is commenting that Michelle is not answering the question w. regard to not liking Libyan intervention while liking Iraqi intervention.  Oops, now she is, confirming there was “no vital U.S. interest” in Libya.   True, but then she need to defend our interest in going into Iraq.

Santorum wisely bringing the whole issue back to Obama’s decision to go into Libya.  Also takes a left-handed swipe at Ron Paul and isolationism.   Battle of the Mice.

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Oops, now Huntsman is screwing himself to the floor by claiming that “certain people” in the Republican Party are “running away from science.”  I don’t think there’s anything that infuriate Republicans more than making such a condescending statement.   This clown is DONE.  What an asshat.  “I can win?”  Let’s see you get 1% in any primary first, Tan-boy.

Perry hits it on the head by putting the economic point first — that you don’t intentionally destroy the economy by attempting to cater to some unproven “effect” that has not even been remotely shown to be remediable in the first place.

Michelle backs him up by showing the stupidity of going anti-fossil fuel in an economy that is completely and irreplaceably dependent upon them.  Especially w. regard to coal — where we get 50% of our electricity today.  Yes, the stuff that powers electric cars, GreenAsshats.

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LOL!  Newt would fire the Bernank!   Fly should love that one.

And, he’s going to sell off Arizona.   Not a completely stupid plan, actually.

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Brian Airhead, the other MSNBC commentator, asks Perry about the death penalty and how Texas has executed more people than any other state.  He gets applause upon mentioning the number of executions and nearly has the vapors about it.  What a schmuly.

Perry, of course, rocks that easy pitch out of the park.  He’ll probably palm Brian Airhead a sawbuck after the show.

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Ron Paul gets his red meat question with the Federal welfare question.  He objects to welfare MANDATES, not taking care of people.   Oh yeah is he on a roll now.  And he is exactly right.  Gets his best applause line of the night.

Airhead says good night on that note.  Maybe Ron won’t be so cranky next time…

(Yeah, right).

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105 comments

  1. xxxHuggieBearxxx

    Funny, I just watched that part and found newt’s statement and general personality completely disagreeable.

    I would probably vote for huntsman and I could live with Romney…the rest of them are flawed.

    Although Herman Cain is interesting, at least. And authentic.

    Paul is wacko but at least has ideas.

    Perry, god help us, would be a disaster.

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    • JakeGint

      Wrong.

      I wouldn’t vote for Gingrich, he’s just not got the personality to pull it off. But what he said was 100% true. More than any one of them winning individually, the biggest imperative is that the Obama disaster and it’s attendant Federal misuse of power is GONE.

      If you don’t realize that, I can’t take you seriously.

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      • xxxHuggieBearxxx

        The biggest problem I had with his statement was his delivery and his personality that shone through, and I just found something about him extremely off-putting.

        As for the substance of the statement, I would have to go back and look at the transcript, but I believe the essence of his statement was that obamacare is the reason for the lack of jobs now. If that was indeed the case, i certainly don’t agree with it.

        Whether Obama policies are structurally wrong-headed and will have medium-to-long term negative impacts I won’t argue one way or the other, but to argue the current situation is a result of those policies I believe to be disingenuous.

        But, mostly, I just found Newt’s personality a bit repulsive.

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        • JakeGint

          Newt will not win the nomination. Jobs are not being created because employers are frozen about multiple new regulations, the largest of them being Obamacare.

          These are my clients, this is not bullscheiss. Even on the giant firms, there have been multiple “waivers” issued.

          If Obamacare isn’t wrecking the job market, why bother issuing waivers to large employers?

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          • xxxHuggieBearxxx

            Any evidence for that attribution beyond your own experience? I ask for my own edification if indeed this is the case, and is objectively demonstrated.

            I have no doubt the health care plan is a net-negative factor for job creation, and at some point it may even be a substantive one. However, I would not have thought at this early stage, before full implementation, it could be faulted for the entire job situation in this country.

            I’m not saying I’m definitively correct in this, its just drawing conclusions from the obvious (jobs were fuccked before obamacare, it hasn’t been fully implemented yet, consumer demand is missing, etc), and in lieu of my having seen any obective evidence to the contrary.

            Anyway, nice use of “unctuous”…i had to look that up and learned a new word tonight 😉

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            • TeahouseOnTheTracks
              TeahouseOnTheTracks

              Which comes first … Consumer demand or a living wage and then some?

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            • SilentKz

              I agree with Huggie. There are many factors which go into current employment situation other than regulations. The regulations are a negative, but not the sole reason. The housing situation, private sector deleveraging, and uncertainty abroad have much bigger impacts than some new regulations that haven’t been implemented yet.
              Jake it is hard to take you seriously when you take such a biased approach to your political thinking. Do you think that employement would immediately surge higher if Dodd-Frank and Obamacare were repealed? I believe it would still muddle about, improving marginally. Bottom line is the private sector needs to deleverage and the only way to do that is through time and money (a tax holiday would go a long way).

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          • CAP

            There are thousands of jobs available. Unfortunately we do not have people with the skills necessary to fill those jobs. Unemployment would be under 6% if we had more skilled workers.

            If a company needs to hire employees, does added health care costs really play a ‘vital’ role in their decision ? Seriously ? If you need to hire you hire. You don’t say ‘hmmm health care costs are higher so maybe I’ll hold off hiring’ Its not going to be an overriding factor. You may take it into consideration but it won’t be a make or break.

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            • dazydee

              Well, those who got fired in the last 3 years did not suddenly become unskilled. It’s not that easy.

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            • JakeGint

              CAP, take an intro econ course. All pricing takes place at the margin, including labor cost pricing.

              So no, for “highly skilled jobs” there is plenty of cushion for higher healthcare costs… but guess what?

              THOSE PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE HEALTHCARE ATTACHED TO THEIR EMPLOYMENT.

              It’s those on the margins — like always — who get crushed by “I’m the GOBMINT, I’m here to help” asshattery.

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  2. Blind Read Ant

    “Although Herman Cain is interesting, at least. And authentic.”

    Response: Herman Cain (FastFoodKing) talking Health Care points. Lol.

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    • xxxHuggieBearxxx

      better than listening to plastic politician perry spit out the same talking points over and over

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      • JakeGint

        When is he doing that? Bullshit. Quote the repetition.

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        • xxxHuggieBearxxx

          He just comes off as vapid to me…

          Ron Paul is a total kook though…first time i’ve ever watched him, now i see why he never gets any traction. He can’t spit out a fucking idea.

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        • drummerboy

          jake,when he was asked about the death penalty and his response at the end of his answer that the penalty id death……..i want you to replay that over and over again,and take a good look in that mans eyes,and if you dont get what i’m sayin ,then look at it over and again,and then tell me what you see.

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          • JakeGint

            What?

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            • drummerboy

              the guy had the look of satan in his eyes when he told brian williams about his death penalty tenure. if you could find a tape and play it back you’ll be amazed. you say your a good catlick boy and have respect of the good book i would imagine,so think about the passage”he who comes to save everyone from from the ill’s of our ways,shall he masquarade as a savior”.didnt he inoculate little girls.whats next

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  3. Yogi and Boo Boo

    I totally agree that the politico dude is pretty annoying.

    In other stuff Cain wants us to be Chile?

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    • JakeGint

      Like Chile? You mean like the pension reform of Chile?

      That was from Milton Friedman and has been very successful.

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  4. John Meriwether

    Although I cannot stand Rick Santorum, I did love his “entitlement mentality” answer and I’m glad you mentioned it here Jake.

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  5. John Meriwether

    Did Rick Perry just say “I hate cancer”?

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  6. Blind Read Ant

    TwitterFeed: @sethmeyers21: No matter your politics, I think we can all agree that Mormons tan well.

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    • JakeGint

      Helps to be a billionaire. Is that Jean Claude Vandamme?

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      • Blind Read Ant

        JCVD v. Siegel? You know my corner and the odds are JCVD!

        Also, treuly, Newt called out the Double-Speak DJ’s earlier. Stand out performance from Mr. “New Deal.” Most. def.

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  7. alf44

    I am strangely reminded of …

    Insane Clown Posse !!!

    Gawd Fuckin’ Help Us All … If Any One Of These “Insane Clowns” … Should EVER … Become POTUS !!!

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    • JakeGint

      LOL. Yeah, Obama’s better, right dipstick?

      Well, I guess it’s not like you need to worry about your credibility or anything…

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  8. Blind Read Ant

    Insane Clown Posse. Huh? Are you referring to the jokers posing questions?

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    • JakeGint

      Just look at his avatar. It explains much.

      And if that’s not enough, he’s also a Crackboy fan.

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      • alf44

        LOL !!!

        Jake … seriously … what/who did you SEE tonight … that ACTUALLY believe … is “electable” …

        in a GENERAL ELECTION !!!

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        Let these bufoonish “CLOWNS” have at one another in the Primary !!!

        Bring on the GENERAL !!!

        Obama will “eat their livers … with Fava Beans and a nice Chianti” !!!

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        • alf44

          … and YOU know it !!!

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          • Blind Read Ant

            I always prefer what Dr Hannibal said this: “People never really tell you what they’re thinking, they just see to it that you don’t advance.”

            2 steps back for you Alf.

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            • JakeGint

              Alfie, try not to become overly delusional.

              My dog beats Obama in a walk, without even a bath to freshen her up.

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              • alf44

                “my dog lovin’ friend” … ALAS … it is YOU …

                … who is the “delusional” one !!!

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                Love Ya Man !!!

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  9. Blind Read Ant

    BRA’S SCORE CARD:

    1) Romney;
    2) Bachman/Huntsman/Perry;
    3) Gingrich/Kane/Paul/Santorum

    Leader: Romney
    Hon. Mention: Huntsman
    Competent: Bach
    Robotic: Gingrich/Perry
    Stressed: Santorum/Paul
    Style: Huntsman/Kane
    Unfairly Treated: Gingrich/Paul

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    • JakeGint

      I remain really liking Cain the best. Maybe someone will get some balls and pick him as their Veep.

      How sweet would a Perry-Cain or Romney-Cain ticket be?

      Let’s see the asshat liberals start talking about HIM being “one heartbeat away” from the Presidency.

      How awesome would that be?

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      • drummerboy

        gingrich/ cain would be more like it. the best combo that this country is starving for.all the rest are a waste of sperm

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        • JakeGint

          Unelectable. Gingrich too much baggage, Cain not enough experience.

          Commentators said it this morning… there is no precedent for someone who has never been in political office to be elected POTUS in U.S. History…

          UNLESS… they won the Civil War or WWII.

          Being CEO of Godfather’s Pizza ain’t gonna get you the equivalent, as admirable as that might be.

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  10. David Greeg

    “No one but the cellar bound 27-year olds living with their mamas, I mean.”

    Fuck you. I am 44, I make 6 figures, and I live a responsible life. And I am more ecucated than you. You don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. You sound like you are ready to hump a few CFR candidates.

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    • JakeGint

      You’re more what than me?

      Bring your A-game, asshat.

      And, not to brag overmuch, I kind of doubt you’re more educated than me, your crappy typing aside.

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      • alf44

        “W” … had an MBA from Yale !

        He Was An Idiot !!!

        What exactly is your point, Jake ?

        A so called “education” doesn’t mean you aren’t misguided and clueless !

        The World is full of examples of that !

        Perhaps you need ONLY look in the mirror … to find such an example !!!

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    • Mad Willie Thompson
      Mad Willie Thompson

      Wow, Dave. Of all the points the Senator breaks down above, this is the one you latch on to??

      Proof positive that 6 figures and a massive education don’t necessarily indicate perspicacity.

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  11. TeahouseOnTheTracks
    TeahouseOnTheTracks

    Hahaha … Chris Matthews says that Perry proved he was smarter than dumb, enough so to beat Romney in the deep south. Woo Hoo!!!

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    • Blind Read Ant

      Matthews just matched Dan Rather for stupid comments, like: “Obama couldn’t pull over [folks in the South] and make them buy watermelons.”

      Great point T.

      The Cronk’s of the world sure do insult the silent majority of Americans.

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    • TeahouseOnTheTracks
      TeahouseOnTheTracks

      forget the rest of the electorate with his “who needs science” and “ponzi scheme” comments … Don’t look back, Romney may be gaining on ya … in the morn!

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      • Blind Read Ant

        Having contacts in the “scientific field,” let me mention, no “fund$” (spell: G-R-A-N-T), if no Global Warming.

        Capiche?

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        • JakeGint

          Is there anything more annoying than being condescended to by a pack of extremely stupid people?

          I don’t think I’ve met a Dem who’s not math-challenged and yet all of a sudden they are the paragons of science?

          C’mon. If it weren’t for a high high school drop-out rate and a large amount of gov’t dependency, the Dems wouldn’t even have a constituency outside the suburbs of DC, and the West Side of Manhattan.

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          • alf44

            I have a BS Degree in Electrical Engineering !!!

            Keep talkin” … “Gint” … you fucktard !

            The MORE you talk … the MORE ridiculous you look !

            Do yourself a favor … shut your fuckin’ piehole !!!

            Wanna challenge me to some “Quadratic Equations” … “Integral Calculus”???

            Bring it BIGMOUTH !!!

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            Yes !

            Even Democrats have Engineering Degrees !!!

            Whodathunk ? DUH !!!

            FU !!!

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            • Blind Read Ant

              Until you can shoot down missiles at varying degrees of the stratosphere, as my family as contributed to, you’re credibility remains… not… even a joke.

              Re-Read the Senator. For comprehension.

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              • dazydee

                Good point.

                As soon as you can shoot or blow up anything with it, Repuplicans always have been the greatest fans of science.

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            • JakeGint

              Your rambling, poorly syntaxed sixth grade ruminations only prove you are one of the dimmer posters on this site.

              Learn to write if you are so smart. So far, what you’re producing here is “sub-par.”

              And as I always say… on the internets you can “be” anything you announce to the ether, but what you actually “are” is only revealed by what you put on the screen.

              So sorry.

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              • alf44

                .

                Note to self :

                Never argue with an idiot about Politics !

                They will drag you down to their level … and beat you with experience !

                I’m done !

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                • JakeGint

                  From your lips to God’s ears.

                  You already lost all credibility when you admitted to still backing Obama, perhaps the biggest disaster since the Hoover era.

                  I think Hoover was an engineer too, btw.

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                  • Blind Read Ant

                    Don’t quote Churchill if you have NEVER rear the man.

                    I’d take Putin being in office over our current POTUS (well…, j/k, but you know what I mean).

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  12. Colonel von Ryan

    Charles Manson could beat Obama, and by a wide margin.

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    • alf44

      … won’t even respond to that !

      I will give you the benefit of the doubt and just chalk that up as a “drunken” comment !!!

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      • JakeGint

        Manson would beat the paedophile murderer Gacy in a runoff and GACY would beat The One right now.

        Being dead, Gacy at least could not eff up the economy to the degree Alf’s Emperor has.

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  13. Chango

    Jake – I don’t know if you’re just trying to stir the pot by calling Ron Paul “isolationist” (bravo it is working) but I thought I would clear the air on that accusation.

    To label Ron Paul isolationist shows a lack of understanding on his views. He against intervening in the affairs of other countries, not isolationist. To illustrate:
    Non intervention = Switzerland
    Isolationist= North Korea
    Big difference. Ya dig?

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    • Chango

      And i disagree that he is unelectable. But in the event that you’re correct, then i welcome Obama’s next term. Because his GOP competitors are complete asshats.

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      • JakeGint

        This is why I could never be a libertarian.

        You guys are the ultimate “cut of my nose to spite my face” tantrum throwers.

        This is not tiddlywinks we are playing here, and taking one’s ball and going home is not an option.

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        • Chango

          It is when you live in MA and any non Dem vote is symbolic. Only Ron Paul could get me out to the polls to go through the motions of wasting my vote for the GOP.

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          • Chango

            i should have said wasting my time, not my vote. But in the end I guess they would be both wasted as Obama will win here.

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            • JakeGint

              You never know.

              Reagan won Mass, back in the day.

              And Scott Brown just won as well. Maybe even Taxachusetts is ready for “real change?”

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              • Blind Read Ant

                I’ve shuck Ralph Nader’s hand before. Haha. Independent candidates love taking “Independent” money just as much as the major parties. It’s a business, running for Pres., in case no one one told ya.

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  14. dazydee

    Ron Paul is unelectable? So what?

    Bush II was unelectable, too.

    If the GOP wants to win the election they have two choices I think:

    – “Do the Obama”: Get a likable, charismatic, media-savvy candidate – find out what is on the voters mind (not hard right now), and run a professional multi-front campaign on that. (stay on message, don’t confuse voters, and they start to believe) Get the Tea Party on Board, you can dump them after the vote (like Obama did with the anti-war crowd).

    – Forget the base, they will vote for anyone anyway, because he is not Obama. Draw the people discontented with Obama (there are a lot). I think Ron Paul would be cut out for that. He resonates with the anti-war and anti-fed crowd, people rights movements,… and don’t underestimate the impact of getting the 27 year olds living with mom on your side, they run the social media 😉

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    • JakeGint

      Ron Paul is unelectable.

      Do any of you guys understand politics or is it all just cocktail party theory to you?

      Ron Paul is a 76 year old cranky homunculus.

      HE CANNOT WIN.

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      • wtf

        It’s a popularity contest and he doesn’t appeal to most. People get voted because they sound nice and talk well and on a jumbo TV screen and podium talking from a booming microphone on an elevated platform seem to be like a God to the subconscious. It’s not like what they are saying matters and Paul has no delivery.

        On the otherhand he will likely stay to the end so if Bachman drops out he will pick up a lot of teaparty support

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        • JakeGint

          I think it’s fine that he sticks around and keeps others honest.

          I think he has a lot of good ideas that will eventually be incorporated into mainstream political thought.

          Maybe even his son could be a POTUS contender one day. But not Pops… he makes John McCain look like an ebulliant spring chicken.

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      • dazydee

        “…or is it all just cocktail party theory to you?”

        I did not realize it, until you pointed it out. Yes, actually, it is.

        Since I do not expect anything but the worst from any candidate of either party I have seen so far, I strangely do not care about this upcoming election.

        THIS IS AMERICA! If cowboys, terminators and speech impaired dimwits can be elected, WHY NOT CRANKY HOMUNCULUSSE!?

        sorry…

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        • JakeGint

          Because, unfortunatley, the chick vote is big and geting bigger.

          Chicks (for the most part) do not dig Ron Paul.

          How do you think Obes got elected? He was up against a guy who made Emperor Palpatine look good!

          Superficiality becomes increasingly important as we rely on a video-based culture, unfortunately.

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  15. juice

    nothing like fair & balanced blogging 8)

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    • JakeGint

      It’s a GOP debate, Bruce, you want me to throw in a couple of kind words for the Emperor?

      Okay, he’s got cute daughters and they seem to be coming up well.

      Okay?

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  16. wtf

    How is Perry running as a republican? He’s a fucking democrat who likes to claim he invents the internet while helping Al Gore win and speaking about the usual “global warming” climategate BS agenda.

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  17. Rainman

    Paul would win if he made it past the republicans because he is so anti war and dems feel betrayed by Obama on his “Bush” foreign policy. Many republicans know this so if the top candidates mess up bad enough to hurt the GOPs chances against O’bama, Paul does stand a chance. Things certainly have to go his way but he is more after planting a seed that has already dug it’s roots (tea party movement), and by those accounts his campaign has been a continued success.

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    • JakeGint

      His ideas have certainly gained purchase.

      He’s just not the right candidate for the ideas.

      Someday they’ll be a statue to him as “the Father of” something.

      Maybe Rand Paul, lol!

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  18. Mr. Cain Thaler

    I see my decision to not take any part in these affairs is coming along nicely.

    If you lot are smart, you’ll hand Obama another four years. As long as we retain the House, little harm can come from it, and it will pave the way for another decade of Republican rule.

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    • JakeGint

      Nope. You forget the regulatory disasters that are already deep in the works. These are the provenance of the Exec and need to be tended to yesterday.

      Same goes for Obamacare… needs to be gone like Vince Vaughn.

      And then there is Supreme and other federal judgeships… nope… too much disaster in front of us for that.

      I don’t want to be eating dog food just so we can “guarantee a decade of GOP dominance.”

      If the GOP can’t get their shit together and save the country from what’s been going on since 2007 (the advent of the Nancy-Harry Congress), then they are not worth it anyway.

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      • Mr. Cain Thaler

        I mean, with both judges and agency heads, there’s this process called confirmation that can be tied up, ad infinum.

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        • JakeGint

          Not w. Supremes, no matter how awful they be.

          And that alone is important enough.

          But what of the regulatory regimes I’ve mentioned? Surely that’s just as bad?

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          • Mr. Cain Thaler

            True with the Supreme Court. But looking at the bench, who on the Republican side are you afraid of falling in the next four years? Kennedy or Scalia will be the next to go, but they can hang in their another four years, easily.

            As for the regulation, I absolutely hate most of it. But regulation is more politically susceptible than the court.

            Let them regulate this country into the dust. They’ll hang themselves in the process. Obama has already been threatening his appointed ideologues, telling them to lay off.

            People do not respond well to illegitimate force at the hands of regulators. I suspect they will largely crumple under their own incompetence.

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            • Blind Read Ant

              Cain, you might want to read my post “Extraordinarily Dangerous Politics” post.

              I don’t think you comprehend, appreciate, properly fear the implications of Jake’s saying to you, nor what has been going on outside your daily bubble.

              Sorry if that sounds didactic, but I repeat myself, take a read. Everything I list is public record, and I omitted many, many more facts.

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              • JakeGint

                Cain lives in the Depression already, so he can’t see how much worse it can get for everyone outside of Detroit.

                Visit Holland, MI Cain! They’ve got a lot to lose!

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              • Mr. Cain Thaler

                On the contrary, I have a pretty good feel for what would happen.

                (1) Obama would take his second term as a second mandate.

                (2) The extremists he appointed would go hog-wild

                (3) Hundreds of new regulations would start hitting the books, from environmental garbage, to labor requirements, to immigration law

                (4) The economy would take a second leg down, with thousands of jobs being shed and input costs skyrocketing

                (5) blowback

                (6) 2014 delivers the Senate into Republican hands. Legislation begins to force Obama to fire much of his cabinet and idiot cohorts. Stagnation ensues

                (7) A thoroughly disenchanted liberal base are incapable of even showing up for elections. 2016 is handed to Republicans; giving them a near super-majority

                (8) The American people, thoroughly fed up with liberal policies, throw them out with the garbage where they belong, making room to begin to unwind much of the nonsense of the last years (by then 8 years)

                (9) A decade+ ensues where liberals can’t get anything accomplished, and where they are so scattered into the wilderness thanks to the total shattering of their beliefs and utter failure of their governance that hopefully I never have to hear of their stupidity again in my lifetime. If Keynes is never mentioned again, the world will almost be a better place for it. Only the fringe, the total believers will remain to tout huge entitlement spending and social programs, as everyone else will still be feeling the pain from them

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              • inspector gadget

                ANT – Why did you change your avatar from bald old guy to Jean-Claude Camille François Van Varenberg?

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  19. duck

    JG – Any thoughts on realclearpolitics.com? They seem to pull from a variety of sources

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  20. South of the Mason-Dixon
    South of the Mason-Dixon

    The debate last night highlighted, for me, how awful the choices are. Look, I will vote for anyone that says they will reduce regulations, get rid of Obamacare and in general reduce the size of government. Anyone.

    I thought Paul and Gingrich were the smartest in the room. Each are unelectable. I was a bit disappointed with Perry. I thought Romney was his steady boring self. Bachmann is done. Whoever comes out of this crap will get my vote against President Zero.

    Isn’t it odd that the dollar is considered strong at 76? I mean, wouldn’t a strong dollar in a real world be 100?

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  21. chivo

    JG please comment on latest KoPG
    much appreciated 😀

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  22. carsony

    Newt is to old..not

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  23. sergeifreud

    my god, what a disaster!

    if this is the best the GOP has to offer, america is fuccccked big time. seriously, the loonies are taking over the asylum.

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