10 Hilarious survey data portraying just how terrible fox news is. Fox viewers were 16% less likely to know a regime change had occurred in Egypt than someone who watched no news.
Surprisingly right wing talk radio does quite well, an outlier or the real right wing news?
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/
Edit: It has been brought to my attention claiming that: ” Fox viewers were 16% less likely to know Mubarak had been overthrown than someone who watched no news” is misleading.
I humbly apologies and have ammended the sentence to read “Fox viewers were 16% less likely to know a regime change had occurred in Egypt than someone who watched no news.”
10 Responses to “Breaking news: Fox news sucks”
Blind Read Ant
You’d be better off avoiding political commentary TJ.
TJWP
Posting data, not commenting on it is considered commentary. Fuck you are stupid.
You are better off not flaming, but since that’s all you do, flame on.
Blind Read Ant
“Never debate with liberals (it requires logic).”
Michael Savage
p.s., thanks for proving his point.
You must be a flame expert, about which, I continue to be proudly ignorant.
TJWP
You aren’t debating me, read the survey, find flaws and discuss the data.
You just resort to vague personal criticisms and completely ignore any content posted. Is this how you teach your students too?
Can you take a second and think about what you just read or does your smug sense of self satisfaction preclude that course of action?
Cheesefries
Let me guess you’re in search of truth justice and the American way.
Fuck off liberal
Woodshedder
Yes, because 612 people in New Jersey are certainly representative of the entire country.
“There are also a few other interesting numbers in the study: 11% of those polled think that Occupy Wall Street is a Republican-led movement, for one, and of those, most are far likelier to watch MSNBC.”
“And, more importantly, they ignore at their peril the questionable academic work that went into this study, and the questionable language used by the professors that may be a red flag as to how much they are exaggerating the importance of their work. Take, for example, Professor Dan Cassino calling the finding”that only about half of the public can name one of the front-runners is embarrassing.” Yes, that would be embarrassing for the American public– if half of 612 people in New Jersey, a state that represents about 0.002% of the American public, were representative of them. Given the extreme limits of its geographical range and the negligible number of those polled (a whole 612 people), it is difficult to see this study as irrefutable evidence of anything, and perilous to promote it as such for ideological benefit.”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/left-rejoices-as-poll-of-612-new-jerseyans-declares-fox-news-makes-people-stupid/
“Their telephone poll of 612 New Jersey adults purportedly shows that the Fox News watching people don’t know the right answer to a few questions the pollsters asked. That is to say, the right answers according to the pollsters.
The first question is about Egypt and whether or not the protests have been successful in bringing down the regime there. The expected answer is, of course, yes. Only 49% of FNC watchers responded “correctly” while 68% of NPR listeners did.
So, did the protesters in Tahrir Square bring down the regime? I guess that depends on how you define “the regime.” Following three weeks of protests, President Hosni Mubarak was forced to step down and his National Democratic Party (NDP) was dissolved. It was at this point that the Armed Forces of Egypt officially took control. So, why is this ambiguous in any way? Well, Mubarak and the entire upper echelon of the NDP were military. As a matter of fact, the Egyptian military have been the de facto rulers of Egypt since the military coup of 1952 that ousted King Farouk and ushered in the Nassar regime. So, the only real change in Egypt was cosmetic.”
http://bigjournalism.com/epokroy/2011/11/24/fdu-poll-fox-news-makes-you-stupid-ignore-our-margin-of-error/#more-245232
TJWP, go to the study, and look at the actual results: http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/
What you’ll find is that allowing for the margin of error, Fox News and MSNBC were exactly equal as to their responses to the Egypt question.
And this is news why? One could just have easily written, “Allowing for Margin of Error, MSNBC Viewers Just as Stupid as Fox Viewers.”
TJWP
Using 612 people from New Jersey is certainly not a representative sample, but 612 isn’t a small amount of data points for survey data. Furthermore no one is claiming it is irrefutable evidence, I just thought it was funny.
As for arguing with the phrasing of the question, it could be phrased more clearly, directly referencing Mubarak and I will admit to jump from the regime change to not knowing Mubarak stepped down is misrepresentation’s of the data, hence you will notice the edit.
MSNBC also does poorly, so is your argument that Fox News doesn’t suck because it is relatively not as shitty? I challenge you to watch Fox news for 3 hours and then write an article explaining how they represent the ideals of journalism. Yes, I am aware this would be very difficult for any American news outlet.
With regards to the title question, I will admit that was somewhat selfish, as I find a headline like: “BREAKING NEWS” tends to attract more views, but then I decided to post it Friday night so that was somewhat counter-productive. I do, however, feel somewhat wounded at the insinuation that I did not have look at the data.
Woodshedder
TJWP, choose whatever headline you wish. Attracting viewers is good.
I did not at all mean to imply that you had not looked at the data. I’m sorry it came out that way.
My argument is simply that it is just another example of main-stream-media spin. Once the margin of error is accounted for, is there really a story here? Not really, unless you want to make the case for NPR or radio in general.
I, being an avid NPR lover, am glad to know I am more informed than most.
Blind Read Ant
TJ, please don’t tweet in future.
I can tell we’re not friends. Thx.
TJWP
Your comments are not wanted, nor appreciated. Flaming can go both ways, please remember that. First and last warning.