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1999-2000 Redux

Back in the heady days of 1999, when the Biz-media was occasionally truthful & transparent,  I used to be invited on TV to talk about current market events. One of my favorite places to go was the old Bloomberg building on Park Avenue because they had the best snacks.

One day in late 1999 I made an appearance when the Nasdaq was up multitudinous points. It was the greatest Bull market in history yet it went against every fundamental and technical indicator and analysis conceived of to that date.

Being the young hotshot that I was, my analysis was simple; “Set aside everything you think you know and ‘date’ almost any Internet-frenzy technology stock you are able to afford. Date them because they are fun and satisfying and wildly profitable. But don’t, under any circumstances, marry them. Any of them. Because one day reality will matter.”

The market conditions went against everything I knew, yet I was forced to participate in order to make money for clients, keep up with performance and stay relevant. It was the epitome of adapting to the changing market condition and it worked for a period of time.

But right after that interview I made my way to the snack bar to take a few things with me back to the office, and who came sprinting up? Bloomberg himself. Realize this was way before he was His Honor, the Mayor.

He didn’t look at me, just began furiously dishing some fresh fruit into his plate and muttering just loud enough for me to hear; “Those fuckers think they are doing something, accomplishing something. Those fucking assholes think they are creating value. Then he raised his voice and said THEY AREN’T CREATING SHIT! THEY ARE GONNA DESTROY THE MARKETS! Then he spun his heels and walked away.

He was, of course, absolutely correct.

Today the situation is similar. Not exactly alike, but similar. Back then the markets had innovation in both technology and Wall Street coming together to bring about a significant increase in value. It was carried very far, until it broke, spectacularly.

Now the market is powering higher without a pause. But there is no value being created as far as I can see. There is simply a giant plan to pump as many dollars, Euros, Yen, etc. into public markets as possible in order to cover up the reality of overwhelming debt and deflation. Throw good money after bad in order to make the bad money good.

Policy-makers three-pronged goals are; 1. to keep asset prices levitated in order to propagate the “Wealth Effect that will encourage spending and hiring 2. To fund the governments Treasury issuance to cover deficit spending and 3. To help banks liquefy by buying their non-performing assets and investments. We are now in year four of this plan and most of it is working. This has been the most successful government program since the Marshall Plan right after we won WWII.

Knowing the policy and plan and thinking that it is, “The Royal Scam”, as I’ve been known to call it, doesn’t mean that I’m bearish or I’ve missed it. Many have adapted to the changing market condition even though it is a patently manipulated one. I don’t know how or when it will end but as you know, the policy is clear, free money goes a long way to fixing almost all financial problems.

There is no value being created except for shareholders and the government. And as the Fed Chairman says, it is all just transitory. Just like in the past.

I beg you to “get it while you can” and enjoy the fun and festivities. I won’t even begin to speculate on when and how it breaks. But reality eventually wins.

 

 

 

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17 comments

  1. Tigler

    Great post and appreciate the context. Whats the contrarian play here?

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  2. Gold

    Appreciate as always Scott. What is your thought toward PM mid to long term?

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  3. Jworthy

    Thank you for this analysis.

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  4. jimmy_two_times

    at $85B/mth it could be a while

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  5. Ken

    1999-2000(stocks) then 2005-2006(housing) all the high fiving, that the markets never go down. I don’t think we’re there yet, but it’s coming. Everyone will see it after the hangover clears from their collective heads. Good One Scott

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  6. Tonka

    There seem to be two kinds of bull markets. One where profits and traditional fundamental metrics follow price and ones where price gets wildly ahead of itself.

    There are also two kinds of bear markets. One where price collapses above fundamentals, and one where fundamentals collapse under price.

    1999 was a case of price getting wildly ahead of itself and 2000 was a case of price collapsing above fundamentals.

    2006 was a case where price and traditional fundamentals generally followed each other and 2007 was a case where fundamentals collapsed under price.

    I know you hate how profits and good fundamentals have been created, but the current market action resembles 2006 far more than 1999. Yes stocks are flying, but so are profits and underlying fundamentals.

    My point would be that it is far more likely that fundamentals will collapse under price, than for price to collapse above fundamentals.

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  7. Mr. Cain Thaler
    Mr. Cain Thaler

    Well said

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  8. The Fly

    Scott was, by far, my favorite teevee talking head. He got the blood pumping in the morning.

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  9. Blind Read Ant

    Good stuff Scott.

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  10. redman59

    Very interesting Scott as I like to hear from traders back in the whatever bubble days and how things were.

    Especially like the last statement of “get it while you can” as you are not diminishing the price action but are skeptical of the underlying…overall good to read.

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  11. TaoOfPatrick

    Thanks! always enjoy your articles and tweets.Never forget your tweet nobody will sell apple last fall, so I sold some apple as a dare I think. Best profit I made last year,wish I had sold it all…but that’s another story.

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  12. skayfe

    Great post Scott, always look forward to them!

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  13. drummerboy

    “chase good money after bad”. man,aint that the truth!!!!!great post mr. scott,thanks.

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  14. mad_scientist

    Are you a buyer of CLNE at these levels? I remember you were long when that epic run happened last year.

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  15. Mike

    We will pull back and everyone will say “see, I called the top” then it will rocket higher. Volatility needs to pick up, but in the process we will march higher. Then the storm of volatility that finally comes near the top isn’t believed to be a top. At the time being there really isn’t much volume, and plenty of people shorting trying to top tick. They will be squeezed out after more shorts get invited in and it will be driven higher.
    We have not seen new highs when pricing the market in inflation adjusted terms or many currencies. Globally, there are plenty of nations ready to move in who do not see all time highs yet.

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