iBankCoin
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BRING THE PAIN

Couple weekends back, we discussed how last week would likely be a “pain trade” set-up in the market last week. Looking back, seems like that’s exactly how it went down.

Throughout the week, the market would rally off the open for about 30-40 minutes, drawing in longs, then selling off into the close each day. With the exception of Thursday, of course.

So the weeks activity was built to trigger a more bearish posture, or to whip you off the ride before the move. Now you’re in a predicament here, because you can either chase this up at higher prices, or wait it out for something better.

These types of set-ups give you a chase, or another week of pain. I haven’t been able to determine if people were really eager to chase this up yet, and my initial thought is that they weren’t. That being the case, moves higher are what triggers the most pain here. We’ll discuss this through the week on After Hours with Option Addict.

OA

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82 comments

  1. ThomasJefferson
    ThomasJefferson

    I don’t see how anyone bought the gap. This slow fade would seem to confirm. The most possible pain I could envision would be three up days into Brexit, never giving the timid a chance to get on (or cover), then liftoff. (note i didn’t say likely)

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    • bchu12

      agree. doesn’t feel like a chase yet.

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      • Option Addict

        They don’t at first. That’s what I am saying. If people aren’t buying this, the market slowly backs down…finds no buyers. Then you see a gap up again tomorrow, or some shit like that.

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  2. Swinging for the Fences
    Swinging for the Fences

    Not market related but happy for Dustin Johnson and the city of Cleveland – USGA blew that call on DJ.

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  3. boyaj

    OA, I’ve got a quick question for you. What conditions/indicators/factors do you use when identifying whether the market is in pain-trade mode or not? Is it dependent on speed, breadth, other elements? Any insight here would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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  4. ammy hour

    UEPS on anyone’s radar?

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  5. bchu12

    closed on the lows. very interesting.

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  6. Joshua

    Closed lows and now up 12 off them.

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  7. Richard

    Saw a lot of people saying how today was really weak and there’s no justification for the move. Guys like Dan Zanger saying only rookies chase the gap up.

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  8. kidstockibc

    Another “Bet the House” setup in BAC. Lots of call buying yesterday. Looking for a fast move to $17+

    Bought shares @ 13.64 in PM.

    Fuck the Ark

    #WTFisinthewaterinPrinceton

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    • piratesmile

      Like that $BAC trade, I’m in it with BAC/WS/A, prolly adding some calls in here today.

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      • Jewishmantis

        Glad you guys have joined. The banks look pretty good

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  9. kidstockibc

    Bot more GWPH shares

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    • dlrago8

      GWPH looks interesting. Any idea if they are part of LABU? Looking for re-entry in that.

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      • dlrago8

        Never mind – that was a dumb question. Do t think cannabis stocks make the list. LOL

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  10. Bchu12

    Man bio been such a dud.

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  11. mrcharlie

    Hey OA, this newb is averaged into SYNC around $3.05…..any thoughts? Last weeks run has me a bit spooked. Any thoughts? Thanks for your hard work!

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  12. JT

    Not sure I understand “bio a dud” comment. XBI been making higher highs and higher lows since Feb 9.

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  13. dlrago8

    Staying with OA and staying long. Bought LABU here $27.60.

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  14. kidstockibc

    Jeff — any YOLO’s into the vote? I was eyeballing GOOGL 730’s and TSLA 230s

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  15. Thomas Jefferson
    Thomas Jefferson

    $PACB looks like a buy.
    $MOS and $POT have my eye.
    Gasman’s $EVEP too.
    And I keep staring at the banks (I was a week early on that conviction, luckily I didn’t get started buying yet).

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  16. Thomas Jefferson
    Thomas Jefferson

    OA – do you worry as much about Implied Volatility on lower beta stuff like $MOS and $POT? Their IV is up a bit, but still in the 30’s and low 40’s. I wasn’t sure if that made it less significant. Not sure if I would initiate anything today or wait for tomorrow anyways, but trying to get my ducks in a row ahead of time.

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  17. kidstockibc

    REGN is trading similar to TWTR below 14….expecting a nice pop out of these 52 week lows

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  18. dlrago8

    OA, can I have your opinion on EEFT please? Thank you.

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  19. kidstockibc

    Bot GOOGL next week’s 750 calls @ .25 and a couple DIA this week’s 182 calls @ .07

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  20. kidstockibc

    Watch DB as a tell in the future direction of equities….ignore any loonatics whose headlines are in BOLD RED.

    Fuck the Ark and all the pussy faggots driving it

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  21. kidstockibc

    DIA about to test HOD….FOMO departs on a move out of today’s range

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  22. kidstockibc

    BAC next week’s 15’s are a cheap way to ride the FOMO train

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  23. kidstockibc

    Semi’s affirming the upside….AMAT HOD. LRCX had a slug of call buying recently and KLAC is well bid.

    All aboard the FOMO Train

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  24. kidstockibc

    Weakness Ideas: PCLN AVGO CYNO

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  25. kidstockibc

    EXAS is also likely to move 10%+ higher from here

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  26. kidstockibc

    FAS July 29 calls@ .33 — cheap bet on a breakout in Financial Stocks

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  27. Option Addict

    Hey, thank you for the ideas flowing through here today.

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  28. k_melancon

    I bot NFLX puts this morning and some GOOGL next week calls this afternoon

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  29. decrima

    Anyone holding SCTY calls?

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  30. trashman

    *MEDICARE `IPAB’ COST PANEL NOT TRIGGERED THIS YEAR, U.S. SAYS
    Still gonna wait another year for #IPAB

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  31. dlrago8

    Nice calls kidstockibc. BAC FAS REGN GWPH

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  32. dlrago8

    Nice calls kidtockibc. BAC REGN FAS GWPH

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  33. Tom

    OA, are you adding FB ? Thanks.

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  34. Richard

    CAKE getting interesting.

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  35. thomasjefferson
    thomasjefferson

    Order in to YOLO some $IBB

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  36. Noni Kavuri

    Anyone getting back in $LABU here?

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    • dlrago8

      Watching it. Not sure why it spiked or what caused the market sell-off. Haven’t been able to pay attention. Did get out at $29.45 so looks tempting but will see how the end of day plays out or if it gets under $27.

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  37. Gene Minkin

    I think we see 25 on LABU. VTAE is a bio idea that has good profile and easy to manage risk.

    MOS, POT coiling. MON making a flag.

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    • dlrago8

      I’m liking the $26.60-$26.80 area that it seems to have bounced off of the last 2 days. But $25 would be nicer.

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  38. baba

    OA
    When do you think $WYNN gets interesting ? Last few days its dropping a lot, from the highs of the day.

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